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Who will win the NFC?

Bears
48 (34.5%)
Packers
91 (65.5%)

Total Members Voted: 139

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: lab_warrior on January 23, 2011, 10:18:30 PM
You mean where Holmgren "let" the Broncos score?  What an embarrassment to football that was.

It was the right play, though.  It almost worked for his team.  I must admit, I enjoyed that game very much. 

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: mugrad2006 on January 23, 2011, 10:01:03 PM
Not sure what you're referencing with that statement.  If you mean the '98 Super Bowl between the Packers and Broncos I think you've got your facts mixed up. Favre was co-MVP that season with Barry Sanders and still at the height of his career.  In the Super Bowl he had three TD's and only one pick.  Hardly a turnover machine.

Nope, nothing mixed up at all.  He had an interception which the Broncos cashed in for 7 points.  He had a fumble which the Broncos cashed in for 3 points.  The key was also WHEN it happened.

The Packers were up 7-0 and heavily favored.  They let the Broncos go down and score and tie the game.  Two plays later, Favre was intercepted.  The Broncos took the lead 14-7.  Packers get the ball back and 3 plays later, Favre fumbles.  Now it's 17-7 and Big Mo is on the Broncos side big time.  They believe they can win this game after nearly everyone saying they had no chance. 

Two HUGE turnovers that led to 10 points.  In the end, the Broncos won by 7.

Blackhat

The Broncos still had to, and did, march 45 yards to get a td after the pick.  It wasn't in the realm of a pick 6.

And blaming Favre for the fumble is comical Chicos, he was blind sided on a blitz that was not picked up.


Denver rushed for damn near 200 yds and 14 rushing first downs.

It's en vogue to trash Favre but you can't blame the game on one man, especially one who throws 3 tds.


mugrad2006

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 23, 2011, 11:17:45 PM
Nope, nothing mixed up at all.  He had an interception which the Broncos cashed in for 7 points.  He had a fumble which the Broncos cashed in for 3 points.  The key was also WHEN it happened.

The Packers were up 7-0 and heavily favored.  They let the Broncos go down and score and tie the game.  Two plays later, Favre was intercepted.  The Broncos took the lead 14-7.  Packers get the ball back and 3 plays later, Favre fumbles.  Now it's 17-7 and Big Mo is on the Broncos side big time.  They believe they can win this game after nearly everyone saying they had no chance. 

Two HUGE turnovers that led to 10 points.  In the end, the Broncos won by 7.

I don't disagree that Favre had turnovers in that game (although I agree with Stone Cold that the fumble was not his fault).  What I took umbrage with was the fact that by calling him a "human turnover machine" implied you'd expect him to just give the ball up once a quarter.  That's just not true.

Great players can have turnovers.  In fact, in that same game Elway had threw an interception IN THE ENDZONE (that's a pretty bad when if you ask me) that GB turned into a touchdown four plays later.  He also didn't throw a single TD. 

Favre's TD:TO ratio that game 3:2
Elway's TD:TO ratio that game 1:1  (he had a rushing TD)




MerrittsMustache

Quote from: mugrad2006 on January 24, 2011, 08:17:51 AM
Favre's TD:TO ratio that game 3:2
Elway's TD:TO ratio that game 1:1  (he had a rushing TD)

More importantly...

Favre's team: 24
Elway's team: 31

mugrad2006

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2011, 08:33:34 AM
More importantly...

Favre's team: 24
Elway's team: 31


That highlights my point exactly.  The team lost, not an individual player

LON

So happy I went to that game...even though the Pack almost gave it away at the end.

Except for a couple meatheads around us (they are at every stadium) I really enjoy Packers/Bears games

The chiding of Cutler in our section was just, hilarious.

chapman

Nice geographical breakdown on the ESPN poll...

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: chapman on January 24, 2011, 08:47:00 AM
Nice geographical breakdown on the ESPN poll...

I love that Illinois and Minnesota are picking the Steelers!

wadesworld

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on January 24, 2011, 08:54:38 AM
I love that Illinois and Minnesota are picking the Steelers!


I love that the Bears and Vikings will be watching from their couch!

TallTitan34

Well at lest we put to end the arguement of who the better quarterback is....  CALEB HANIE!

Cutler      31.8
Rodgers   55.4
Hanie      65.2

🏀

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2011, 10:14:05 AM
Well at lest we put to end the arguement of who the better quarterback is....  CALEB HANIE!

Cutler      31.8
Rodgers   55.4
Hanie      65.2


Rodgers first interception really dragged down that rating.

MU B2002

Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 24, 2011, 10:14:05 AM
Well at lest we put to end the argument of who the better quarterback is....  CALEB HANIE!

Cutler      31.8
Rodgers   55.4
Hanie      65.2



He also has the sweetest mustache.  I am glad Lovie had the stones to pull Collins.  He was horrific, which should come as no surprise based on his earlier performances this season.


And WTF is with the play call on 3 and 1.  Cmon martz, you are killing me. and if you are going to do that, can you at least use Hester or Forte, who was having a solid afternoon.

"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

wadesworld

Quote from: MU B2002 on January 24, 2011, 10:28:31 AM
And WTF is with the play call on 3 and 1.  Cmon martz, you are killing me. and if you are going to do that, can you at least use Hester or Forte, who was having a solid afternoon.



It was 3rd and 3, but yes, terrible playcall.

🏀



MU B2002

Quote from: wadesworld on January 24, 2011, 10:30:48 AM
It was 3rd and 3, but yes, terrible playcall.

Yep.  My bad.  Still a stupid call.

  And I believe this is the 2nd time in the last month where Lovie has called a timeout negating what appeared to be an effective original playcall. 
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: mugrad2006 on January 24, 2011, 10:45:02 AM
You stay classy Chicago

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/24/bears-packers-fans-exchange-barbs-blows/

While it's obvious that most Packers fans are white trash, it's important to remember that, while most Bears fans are smart and respectful, there are also some who are Sox fans.

TallTitan34

I've had a bottle thrown at me from a car of Brewers fans for wearing a Cubs jersey as I was walking down the street after a Cubs/Brewers game.

Every fan base has idiots. 

DJO's Pump Fake

packers fans are white trash hahah that's funny

i have seen both fans in action a lot, and packer fans are by far the more educated football fan than bears fans.

hence why they boo their own team at home.

packers fans never boo their team.

enjoy the couch cutler and urlacher!

HoopsMalone

Quote from: mugrad2006 on January 24, 2011, 10:45:02 AM
You stay classy Chicago

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/24/bears-packers-fans-exchange-barbs-blows/

It sounds like for the most part Bears fans were classy.  

I don't know how slowly we have to say this to fans in Wisconsin.  If the Bears or the Cubs or Sox or Bulls or Hawks are playing, we are going to root for them regardless of where the games are played.  Many times loudly.  We are not going to golf clap.  Also, may fans will consume alchohol during the game.  The game is going to get intense, but that is the point of being a sports fan.  I am sorry to hear that there are idiots in every fanbase, but there is really nothing to generalize on.  

Maybe there is a little bit of a cultural difference between Chicago and Wisconsin when it comes to how one should cheer on one's team.  I don't know why we always need to hear the broken record about how Chicago fans get too intense.

Dish

Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on January 24, 2011, 11:06:05 AM
packers fans are white trash hahah that's funny

i have seen both fans in action a lot, and packer fans are by far the more educated football fan than bears fans.

hence why they boo their own team at home.

packers fans never boo their team.

enjoy the couch cutler and urlacher!

Yes, Packer fans are god's gift to football fans across Earth. All Bear fans are convicted felons, kick dogs, steal from the church collection basket.

Studies have been done that prove how much greater of a football education the Packer fan has than any other fandom.


If Bears fans boo, it's because they have da fire and da passion!


Hards Alumni

Quote from: MUDish on January 24, 2011, 11:32:26 AM
Studies have been done that prove how much greater of a football education the Packer fan has than any other fandom.


Actually, the players were polled, and they said that Packers fans were the most knowledgable.

Just sayin'.

🏀

Quote from: MUDish on January 24, 2011, 11:32:26 AM
Yes, Packer fans are god's gift to football fans across Earth. All Bear fans are convicted felons, kick dogs, steal from the church collection basket.

Studies have been done that prove how much greater of a football education the Packer fan has than any other fandom.


If Bears fans boo, it's because they have da fire and da passion!



At least the Bears fans were a bit quieter while the Bears had the ball.

Dish

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on January 24, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
Actually, the players were polled, and they said that Packers fans were the most knowledgable.

Just sayin'.

Don't get me wrong, Packer fans are very knowledgable and among the best fans in the NFL, I wouldn't argue that for a second. They travel well, and I've always said on this site that at Bears games, there isn't a better fan (of opposing teams) than Packer fans.

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