Crean may have done it

[4everwarriors]

Its easy to hate a self-centered phony.

[Henry Sugar]

stop it, @ssholes

There is a real MARQUETTE game tonight for the first time in seven months.

[ChicosBailBonds]

It's actually more than one post, and your correction was nothing like your first post. To me, that's you backtracking when you were called out.

It's called clarifying which I did very soon after the first post.  No backtracking at all.  If I was backtracking, I'd just edit the original post which I clearly didn't.

Still waiting to understand how I'm a Michigan fan that you claimed earlier...see my PM to you.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Its easy to hate a self-centered phony.

I agree, that's why KO and Canadian Dimes have been on my list for years.

[SalsaMan]

Hate drives many of these threads

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

[SalsaMan]

"Let's face it, the guy won about 25 games a year at Marquette". Huh? 25, 21, what's the difference? But then I guess one could say 21, 17, what's the difference? And so on. Facts: Crean won 25+ games 3 times in 9 years, 1 time in his last 5, and averaged 21.1. I get that you love the guy and want to polish his knob, but inflating his numbers by 16% is over the top. Using your math, Buzz has averaged about 28 wins a year even though he's never won more than 25. Fuzzy math.

"All morons hate it when you call them a moron."

Holden Caulfield

[mugrad99]

It's called clarifying which I did very soon after the first post.  No backtracking at all.  If I was backtracking, I'd just edit the original post which I clearly didn't.

Still waiting to understand how I'm a Michigan fan that you claimed earlier...see my PM to you.

CaliWolverine.

[ChicosBailBonds]

CaliWolverine.

Was OC Wolverine or SocalMichigander not available?




Cody is the best of the three...IMO

[mugrad99]

Cody is the best of the three...IMO

Have you seen all three play in high school?

[SalsaMan]

Have you seen all three play in high school?

Don't you get it? Cody is the best of the three since he was signed by the Bronzed Beast of Bloomington.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Have you seen all three play in high school?

Nope.  But others have, including a few coaches I know that have said things like (paraphrasing)  'Cody has the highest upside', 'Cody might just be the best of the three boys', etc.

His high school coach said he's on pace to be the best shooter of the three brothers.

Or this, "Cody enters the season as a top candidate to take the 2011 Indiana Mr. Basketball award. This makes sense, considering several scouts favor Cody at this stage over his brothers, both of whom took the honor in their senior years."   http://bleacherreport.com/articles/515149-ncaa-basketball-cody-zeller-signs-with-indiana-hoosiers

[ChicosBailBonds]

Don't you get it? Cody is the best of the three since he was signed by the Bronzed Beast of Bloomington.

You're right, it wasn't also down to the national runner-up and some second rate program called North Carolina. Prior to that he had offers from basically everyone that matters.

As usual SalsaMan, you're right. 

[brewcity77]

Nope.  But others have, including a few coaches I know that have said things like (paraphrasing)  'Cody has the highest upside', 'Cody might just be the best of the three boys', etc.

His high school coach said he's on pace to be the best shooter of the three brothers.

Or this, "Cody enters the season as a top candidate to take the 2011 Indiana Mr. Basketball award. This makes sense, considering several scouts favor Cody at this stage over his brothers, both of whom took the honor in their senior years."   http://bleacherreport.com/articles/515149-ncaa-basketball-cody-zeller-signs-with-indiana-hoosiers

Could really care less one way or the other, but "Cody might just be the best of the three boys" is as convincing as saying "There's a 33.3% chance he's the best of the three". And him being a top candidate to win the Indiana Mr. Basketball award, an award both of his brothers won, doesn't lend any credence to him being the best, only that he's on par with them. If they both won the award, the only way that award could give any indication of his talent versus their talent is if he didn't win it, which would indicate he was the worst of the three because he failed to do something both of them succeeded in doing.

Again, it will likely have very little bearing on Marquette, unless we see Indiana in the NCAAs, because I think the odds of Crean scheduling us are less likely than him scheduling Bruce Pearl's UWM teams back in the day. But those comments do absolutely nothing to say that Cody is the best Zeller. The only way that will be determined is on the court, which means we are probably all best off shutting up on the topic and waiting to see where he's at in 2-3 years.

[mugrad99]

Nope.  But others have, including a few coaches I know that have said things like (paraphrasing)  'Cody has the highest upside', 'Cody might just be the best of the three boys', etc.

His high school coach said he's on pace to be the best shooter of the three brothers.

Or this, "Cody enters the season as a top candidate to take the 2011 Indiana Mr. Basketball award. This makes sense, considering several scouts favor Cody at this stage over his brothers, both of whom took the honor in their senior years."   http://bleacherreport.com/articles/515149-ncaa-basketball-cody-zeller-signs-with-indiana-hoosiers

So, it's not your opinion, then, it is someone elses.

Of what I have seen of them, he may be the best shooter, but Tyler was a much better athlete at that stage, and Luke had the better post up game.

And as far as Mr. Basketball, I would take Teague over Zeller.

[SalsaMan]

waiting to see where he's at in 2-3 years.

My guess is that within three years either one or the other will be at IU but not both. My fervent hope is that Cody Zeller has a rewarding collegiate career. The next coach in Bloomington will stand a far better chance of bringing out the best in him as both a ball player and as a man.

[mugrad99]

My guess is that within three years either one or the other will be at IU but not both. My fervent hope is that Cody Zeller has a rewarding collegiate career. The next coach in Bloomington will stand a far better chance of bringing out the best in him as both a ball player and as a man.

See this is one area where we differ. I actually like IU as a program and think that Crean will do well. I think it benefitted both MU and Crean to part ways. I just do not see the need to contstantly defend him here. Nor do I see the need to keep namedropping, or hinting I know "things".

[NersEllenson]

See this is one area where we differ. I actually like IU as a program and think that Crean will do well. I think it benefitted both MU and Crean to part ways. I just do not see the need to contstantly defend him here. Nor do I see the need to keep namedropping, or hinting I know "things".

Amen.  Well summarized, and I think Indiana will return to being an NCAA caliber program with TC as coach..though I'm not sure he will guide them to Elite 8's or Final Fours.  Will consistent appearances and an occasional Sweet 16 be enough to keep the IU fans happy?

[MerrittsMustache]

Amen.  Well summarized, and I think Indiana will return to being an NCAA caliber program with TC as coach..though I'm not sure he will guide them to Elite 8's or Final Fours.  Will consistent appearances and an occasional Sweet 16 be enough to keep the IU fans happy?

No. At least not in the long-run.

[mugrad99]

Was OC Wolverine or SocalMichigander not available?

Not sure. You would know. It was you posting on that site with that name.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Don't you get it? Cody is the best of the three since he was signed by the Bronzed Beast of Bloomington.

I hereby nominate this as the Official MUScoop Designation for our former coach.  All threads and posts pertaining to TC should forthwith refer to him as the Bronzed Beast of Bloomington. 

Can I get a 2nd?

[brewcity77]

I hereby nominate this as the Official MUScoop Designation for our former coach.  All threads and posts pertaining to TC should forthwith refer to him as the Bronzed Beast of Bloomington. 

Can I get a 2nd?

I'll 2nd that

[Lennys Tap]

You're right, it wasn't also down to the national runner-up and some second rate program called North Carolina. Prior to that he had offers from basically everyone that matters.

As usual SalsaMan, you're right. 

You have to work on your comprehension. Nothing that Salsa says suggests that Zeller III wouldn't have been welcomed anywhere, as would have Zeller II and I. His assertion is that what makes Zeller III BETTER than his storied siblings (to some, at least) is his choice of Indiana. As usual, he is indeed right.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I hereby nominate this as the Official MUScoop Designation for our former coach.  All threads and posts pertaining to TC should forthwith refer to him as the Bronzed Beast of Bloomington. 

Can I get a 2nd?

The Salsa Man has quickly become the 2nd funniest poster on scoop.  There is a large gap to close before he overtakes ZiggyF*ckinFryBoy though.

[chren21]

The Salsa Man has quickly become the 2nd funniest poster on scoop.  There is a large gap to close before he overtakes ZiggyF*ckinFryBoy though.

+1

[4everwarriors]

The Salsa Man has quickly become the 2nd funniest poster on scoop.  There is a large gap to close before he overtakes ZiggyF*ckinFryBoy though.

Hey F'in B, have use gotten your tit out of the ringer yet? KWarrior doesn't dig your humor.