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Blackhat

Quote from: chuncken on April 01, 2009, 09:27:27 PM
We did fit Christopherson on a jersey, which is 2 more characters... it can be done. Though it will look really squished

That's it, we can not have that.    We're going to have to make him pick one of his names and go with it. 

mufansince72

Quote from: thatman32 on April 01, 2009, 08:39:15 PM
Like many people on this board they don't want to load up on Juco's given our recent history of them.  We haven't had a lot of success with them at all. The have been nothing but a liablity when tommy was the coach.  Maybe times will now be different and they will become an asset.

Also most of those schools haven't offered him.  There is a difference between some assistant watching your game and being offered a scholarship.  Therefore, we did not 'beat' kansas since they never offered.   But if that makes you feel better then so be it.

Some of the best players in MU history were Juco's.  Jerome Whitehead and Sam Worthen immediately come to mind.  There were many more. 

wermarquette

Quote from: Tom Crean's Tanning Bed on April 01, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Well, if you're Pittsburgh, West Virginia, and Virginia Tech, you certainly don't waste resources on sending one of your coaches to bumblef*ck, Kansas on a guy you're not at least heavily considering offering a scholarship too.

Also, by the time he hit the market officially for 2009 instead of 2010, Buzz had the deal done.  If Buzz didn't see that much in this kid, and the big boys weren't going to give this kid the time of day, I'm sure Buzz would have probably taken a wait an see attitude.  Either way, Buzz got in and out before anyone else got word.

great post

VegasWarrior77

Am I correct that Buycks and DJO are both considered among the best Juco guards in the country?  DJO will be a sophomore and Buycks a junior?  Thanks!
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

Markusquette

Quote from: mu77vegas on April 01, 2009, 09:35:50 PM
Am I correct that Buycks and DJO are both considered among the best Juco guards in the country?  DJO will be a sophomore and Buycks a junior?  Thanks!

yep, they are two of the top ranked players in JUCO this year and DJO will be a sophomore and DB a Junior and then another solid JUCo in Monterale Clark for next year.

lorthneeda

Quote from: schubert33 on April 01, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
None of those schools offered him!!!!

He was offered by Pitt and Kentucky, according to Rosiak's blog:

"Johnson-Odom also received scholarship offers from Pittsburgh and Kentucky, and was getting serious looks from Tennessee and West Virginia."

Henry Sugar

I like a three year JUCO about 173% more than a two year JUCO.  Even though he is a JUCO, seems like a world of difference to me.

Also, Buzz gets some coffee
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Blackhat

Quote from: lorthneeda on April 01, 2009, 09:40:34 PM
He was offered by Pitt and Kentucky, according to Rosiak's blog:

"Johnson-Odom also received scholarship offers from Pittsburgh and Kentucky, and was getting serious looks from Tennessee and West Virginia."

Wow. The more I read/see of him the more I don't think he was recruited for the backup pg position.  

VegasWarrior77

Thanks! So if most of these Jucos pan out (realistically) we would have great depth!  Could we go 9-10 deep?  Like Mizzou??
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

Avenue Commons

Quote from: nyg on April 01, 2009, 06:45:22 PM
Butler, Buycks, Clark and if true this guy.  Thats 1/3 of team from JUCO ranks.  Turning into UNLV of the midwest?  WTF?

+1. Don't like all the JUCO players either. I'd rather have a couple of superstar "one and done" kids than JUCO players. Successful programs have consistency.
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StillAWarrior

Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 01, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
I'd rather have a couple of superstar "one and done" kids than JUCO players.

So, let me get this straight...you'd rather have a couple five-star superstar recruits than juco players.  You know, that's just crazy enough to work.  Somebody get Buzz on the phone and tell him to recruit the very best players.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Markusquette

Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 01, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
+1. Don't like all the JUCO players either. I'd rather have a couple of superstar "one and done" kids than JUCO players. Successful programs have consistency.

Who says Juco players can't become stars?

MUshrooms


VegasWarrior77

Quote from: Jeronne_toMU09 on April 01, 2009, 10:20:02 PM
Who says Juco players can't become stars?

+1
Here in Las Vegas they always talk about "Grand MaMa", aka, Larry Johnson coming out of JC (I believe in Texas).
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein

ChicosBailBonds


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Quote from: MUshrooms on April 01, 2009, 10:20:22 PM
Couple more DJO videos can be found here...

http://darius-johnson-odom.love.com/



Yikes...nice hops on that dunk, but the el matador defense right before that ain't gonna cut it in the BE.  With all the new players to the program next year, defense will be our determining factor on any NCAA run....which is why many are saying NIT.  You just can't practice BE intensity.  It took Jimmy 3/4th of the year to get his footwork up to par on D.

pbiflyer

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Interesting how evaluations change and who was recruiting him


http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2464182


vs  this


http://virginiatech.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=52311
And interesting how accurate they may be. Marquette wasn't listed as having any interest in him.

77ncaachamps

#92
For the visual learners:

He's #3:


"Hutch" - If only he can be more than Aaron was! :)


How many 6'2" guards have done this at MU?
SS Marquette

Niv Berkowitz

As a fan and alum that wants a successful program (graduating players, having good seasons) over the expense of a "winning" program (players not graduating, an open-door policy on who comes/goes w/no care to academics), I do worry about JUCO players.

But like someone else here said, I'd much, much, much rather have a three year JUCO player than a two. I am concerned with all the JUCO players we'll now have on the squad and I don't want to see MU getting the reputation of being a new haven for JUCO players (because like it or not the schoole gets some negative pub for it IMHO), but...I'm definitely not going to judge these guys yet as BUzz has no track record yet.

We have to hope he knows what he's doing and he has good kids. And, I also have to remember...just because TC didn't recruit any good JUCO players, doesn't mean Buzz will do the same. All of these kids look like far, far better players than the JUCO guys Crean got (although I still liked M Jax).


rocky_warrior

Added to the official scholarship table.  Let me know if anything looks incorrect!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

MUshrooms

Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 01, 2009, 10:56:34 PM
Added to the official scholarship table.  Let me know if anything looks incorrect!

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=8

Might as well take Pat Hazel off the table

bma725

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
Interesting how evaluations change and who was recruiting him


http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2464182


vs  this


http://virginiatech.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=52311

True, but the Rivals one is up to date, the Scout version hasn't been updated since he was a senior in high school.  He had interest during prep school from Clemson, Wake, Bradley and a couple other places, but they are no where to be found on these sites.

Pakuni

Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 01, 2009, 09:58:33 PM
+1. Don't like all the JUCO players either. I'd rather have a couple of superstar "one and done" kids than JUCO players. Successful programs have consistency.

Ummm ... so a "one and done" provides more consistency than a three-year JUCO player?
Interesting.
Just wondering ... is there a difference between a three-year JUCO player and a high school player who turns pro after his junior season?

thanooj

Quote from: bma725 on April 01, 2009, 08:48:41 PM
Aren't we due for new uniforms anyway?  It seems they change every couple years, maybe he can go with the old school half circle or Johnson above the number and Odom below the number.

+10000
I am all for the half circle.
Original member of the "Dean's List"

wermarquette

"Spoke to a DI assistant tonight from another school who saw Darius Johnson-Odom this year. He said he was the best available guard in the country not named John Wall. Said he is a freak athletically and will make an immediate impact."

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