Author Topic: New MU Recruit for 2010-11 (Read 47856 times)

RawdogDX · « **Reply #75 on:** February 05, 2009, 05:04:41 PM »

Quote from: Pakuni on February 05, 2009, 03:52:54 PM

You win with good players, regardless of position.
Most importantly, you win with balance.
Marquette had these same terrific guards last year, and couldn't get past the round of 32 because they had no one who could handle the Lopez Abominations.
Look at the Final Four teams of the recent past and you'll see they had top-notch players both upfront and in the backcourt. (Kansas: Chalmers, Rush and Arthur; Memphis: Rose, CDR and Dorsey; UCLA: Collison, Westbrook and Love; UNC: Lawson, Ellington and Hansbrough).

Wait, having good players at all positions is better than having just good guards or just good bigs. Shocking!

bilsu · « **Reply #76 on:** February 05, 2009, 07:13:55 PM »

Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 05, 2009, 07:46:52 AM

The more and more I read (and hear) about Riley from people in Michigan says stay away. Yes, he's only an 18 year old kid. But, do we really need a kid that has to be motivated to play hard half the time? If I want that, I'll watch an NBA game.

I think it is safe to say that Buzz will not let a player play who does not play hard on defense. Given that Riley is not a risk, because he will be gone after one year if he does not work hard. The same thing goes for any other player.

bilsu · « **Reply #77 on:** February 05, 2009, 07:16:28 PM »

Quote from: AnotherMU84 on February 05, 2009, 03:08:58 AM

Anyone else find it interesting that Buzz can coach a small guard oriented team well and is now recruiting a large team. If he can change his style and coach this team well too (and we'll have to wait and see), then he might have more ability than we are giving him credit for.

All the players that he is recruiting appear to be very athletic, so they should fit his system.

Pakuni · « **Reply #78 on:** February 05, 2009, 08:23:38 PM »

Quote from: RawdogDX on February 05, 2009, 05:04:41 PM

Wait, having good players at all positions is better than having just good guards or just good bigs. Shocking!

I'm a basketball savant, if you hadn't already guessed it.

commonbondcoach · « **Reply #79 on:** February 06, 2009, 07:09:46 AM »

Hopefully htis Cark fella has good people surronding him when he returns back HOME to Milwaukee. Sounds like he some types of "issues" while in high school - now he's coming back home. Hopefully if those issues were bacause of who he hung around with - he can change that when he is back home.

MR.HAYWARD · « **Reply #80 on:** February 06, 2009, 08:15:33 AM »

Quote from: Pakuni on February 05, 2009, 03:52:54 PM

You win with good players, regardless of position.
Most importantly, you win with balance.
Marquette had these same terrific guards last year, and couldn't get past the round of 32 because they had no one who could handle the Lopez Abominations.
Look at the Final Four teams of the recent past and you'll see they had top-notch players both upfront and in the backcourt. (Kansas: Chalmers, Rush and Arthur; Memphis: Rose, CDR and Dorsey; UCLA: Collison, Westbrook and Love; UNC: Lawson, Ellington and Hansbrough).
Buzz is indeed loading up on frontcourt players, but he's also brought in a top 50 point guard (Cadougan) and arguably the best JUCO guard in the country (Buycks) in the Class of 2009 and an off-guard prospect (Bowen) in the 2010 class. Use the remaining 2010 scholie on a guard (preferably one who could at least back up at the point) and this team has loads of balance and flexibility.

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Phi Iota Gamma 84 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 06, 2009, 10:55:57 AM »

Quote from: Marquette65 on February 05, 2009, 03:17:17 PM

Hate to get into this knowing that Buzz's job will be determined w/ the 2010-11 class BUT you win with GUARDS Look no futher as to why MU is getting such favorable press. Each and every "talking head" remarks about what GREAT guards MU has-- as a group---none better in the country. Yes MU needs bigs but guards are what WINS.

Add Jordin Mayes to this 2010 class and I'm good

Pakuni · « **Reply #82 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:17:58 AM »

Quote from: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on February 06, 2009, 10:55:57 AM

Add Jordin Mayes to this 2010 class and I'm good

That would be great. But, realisitically speaking, Buzz is going to have a challenging time landing a top 100 point guard one year after landing a top 50 point guard. Essentially he has to convince a kid to come to MU and potentially play backup minutes for as many as three years. That's a tough sell when a lot of top 100 kids expect to start right away.
I hope he can pull it off, but won't look too unkindly upon him if he doesn't.

ATWizJr · « **Reply #83 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:19:42 AM »

What were the rankings of each of the three amigos when they were being recruited?

jmayer1 · « **Reply #84 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:29:34 AM »

Quote from: ATWizJr on February 06, 2009, 11:19:42 AM

What were the rankings of each of the three amigos when they were being recruited?

The final rsci rankings for the class of 2005 were as follows:

James - 36
McNeal - 57
Matthews - 61

http://rscihoops.com/

nyg · « **Reply #85 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:37:08 AM »

What ever happened to the recruitment of 2010 SG Flavien Davis? A few years ago, he was projected to be a top ten recruit, and very interested in MU. Yet he has fallen by the wayside and no discussion about him. I don't live in Milwaukee area, so I can't really follow.

ATWizJr · « **Reply #86 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:39:34 AM »

if we could recruit 3 guards in the top 61 in one class, point guards or not, it seems possible that we could recruit another top 100 PG to back up Junior. Especially if Buzz wants the option of continuing to play 3 guards at once.

bma725 · « **Reply #87 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:21:42 PM »

Quote from: nyg on February 06, 2009, 11:37:08 AM

What ever happened to the recruitment of 2010 SG Flavien Davis? A few years ago, he was projected to be a top ten recruit, and very interested in MU. Yet he has fallen by the wayside and no discussion about him. I don't live in Milwaukee area, so I can't really follow.

He just hasn't developed the way people thought he would/should. His game didn't really expand from his freshman year, and that caused a lot of guys to pass him by. At times, he wasn't really interested in giving maximum effort on the court, or in putting in the work required on the court and in practice to get better. Plus, he's been mostly an inside guy his first two years, and is now moving to the perimeter this year.

He still has time to turn it around, and still has time to be a top 50 player, but it's probably to late to get back in the top 10. As of right now, his rankings are all over the place. Some have him in the top 50, some in the top 100, some not ranked at all.

Right now, with MU's need for a PG in that class he's low on the priority list.

muwarrior87 · « **Reply #88 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:39:50 PM »

Quote from: bma725 on February 06, 2009, 12:21:42 PM

He just hasn't developed the way people thought he would/should. His game didn't really expand from his freshman year, and that caused a lot of guys to pass him by. At times, he wasn't really interested in giving maximum effort on the court, or in putting in the work required on the court and in practice to get better. Plus, he's been mostly an inside guy his first two years, and is now moving to the perimeter this year.

He still has time to turn it around, and still has time to be a top 50 player, but it's probably to late to get back in the top 10. As of right now, his rankings are all over the place. Some have him in the top 50, some in the top 100, some not ranked at all.

Right now, with MU's need for a PG in that class he's low on the priority list.

that is the biggest line. My hs alma mater is in the same conference as Wisco and I've seen him play at the Al once or twice as well. His effort isn't there on a consistent basis. The times I've seen him play he's generally lazy on the defensive end and doesn't seem to be fully involved in the game.

nyg · « **Reply #89 on:** February 06, 2009, 01:00:27 PM »

Thanks, knew you would have the answer. MU should move on without him.

77fan88warrior · « **Reply #90 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:34:33 PM »

Quote from: MUWarriors Zero-6 on February 04, 2009, 06:13:52 PM

Loosen up.

Didn't realize the hoyte toytes were here tonight. 1) Remove bundle from panties. 2) Try again.

I think you should clean up your mess on this thread and then respond to your allegations in this thread.. ... tick,tick,tick........

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=12246.0

You are making friends everywhere.

commonbondcoach · « **Reply #91 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:48:56 PM »

Guards are a dime a dozen. They can be picked up anywhere anytime - via a transfer etc etc.. You can never have too much size

bs4173 · « **Reply #92 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:54:49 PM »

Quote from: commonbondcoach on February 06, 2009, 03:48:56 PM

Guards are a dime a dozen. They can be picked up anywhere anytime - via a transfer etc etc..

You're so right. McNeal's just any other guard. James and Matthews are basically expendable, too. Good thing we have a phenomenal presence inside to propel us to the top 10 in the nation and undefeated in the hardest conference in NCAA bball.

lurch91 · « **Reply #93 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:00:50 PM »

Quote from: commonbondcoach on February 06, 2009, 03:48:56 PM

Guards are a dime a dozen. They can be picked up anywhere anytime - via a transfer etc etc.. You can never have too much size

Were you around when Deiner got hurt his senior year? The last 3-5 games were about as UGLY as you can get due to lack of quality guards.

commonbondcoach · « **Reply #94 on:** February 06, 2009, 09:59:14 PM »

dudes,

Chill - I'm just saying there are alot more guards to recruit than bigs. So if yoiu see s big you really like, you better go for it.

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