Gtown fans

[g0ldmember42]

Hello Scoop! Relatively new poster here (follow the site religiously, though). Got back from the game a little while ago and was very impressed with our performance in the second half especially. Seems halftime adjustments are key. Whether we just calm down and get into our groove or Buzz lights everyone on fire at half, I don't know, but it sure seems to work.

Of the 19,000 or so at the game, I was fortunate enough to sit by 5 of the Gtown fans in the lower bowl. By far, some of the most obnoxious fans out there in the first half. Fortunately for myself and all the MU faithful I sit around, they were mighty quiet in the second half.....

I know we view Gtown as a big game whenever we play, but I think we have yet to earn the respect of some of the fans of other "elite" opponents. Maybe it's just me, but I think games like these help validate our name as one of the elite BE teams.

Did anyone else have any interesting encounters with Hoya fans today at the BC? Didn't seem like there were very many there.....

[MUfan12]

There were a bunch in 427. Had a nice convo with a couple younger alums while waiting in the bathroom line.

You are right though- the east coast "old guard" does not view MU as belonging, even with our success.

[g0ldmember42]

the ones I was with were good sports at the end of the game, but still made it sound more like a bad Gtown game than a good MU one.

Wonder how many seasons before that changes...

[Norm]

Don't take offense from Georgetown fans. I've lived in DC for 10 years now, and the first 7 years they never cam close to selling out the Verizon Center. They've rebounded under Thompson Jr., but they only recently passed Maryland as the big draw out here.

[MUsoxfan]

There was a busload of Gtown fans at Mars Cheese Castle after the game.   They were all plowed.   I'd be surprised if a handful of them even knew they lost the game when they wake up

[DFW HOYA]

Don't take offense from Georgetown fans. I've lived in DC for 10 years now, and the first 7 years they never cam close to selling out the Verizon Center. They've rebounded under Thompson Jr., but they only recently passed Maryland as the big draw out here.

Thompson "Jr" coached the Hoyas from 1972-99. His son is John Thompson III.

I don't sense the same antipathy some are trying to raise in this thread between each schools. The fact is that Marquette and Georgetown don't share much of an atheltic rivalry, its students are coming from different parts of the country, and there aren't a lot of ties beyond men's basketball.

Marquette enjoys great support in the Milwaukee region, but a great deal of MU students and alumni live within a few hours of Wisconsin Avenue. By contrast, only 3% of Georgetown students come from Washington DC, it's about half the size of MU, and most of its alumni are not even in DC, making a "home court advantage" an ongoing challenge. We're working on it, but between the Redskins, the NBA, the NHL, Maryland, and six other D-I schools within 45 minutes of the campus, there are a lot of competitors for the sports dollar.

I would like to see MU and Georgetown be active in more sports between them, but this does not seem likely. Of Georgetown's five most active sports, MU competes in just two of them: basketball and track. There's no lacrosse program at MU, no baseball program, and I suspect Fr. Wild would sooner wear a Warriors sweatshirt than add I-AA football. (If he changes his mind, Georgetown, Fordham, and Holy Cross are all available for the schedule.)

Distance aside, there hasn't been enough time elapsed for MU and DePaul to have established rivaries with the more established Big East teams.

[Norm]

I stand corrected on the Thompson family tree, but I think I remember some of the radio folks around here calling him Junior. Regardless, he's still a great coach.

However, my experience is that there are a ton of Georgetown grads in the DC area, especially from the Law School. Seems like everyone I work with on Capitol Hill has some tie to GU, and all are fans of the bball team. Plus, does Georgetown really only have about 4-5,000 students?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hello Scoop! Relatively new poster here (follow the site religiously, though). Got back from the game a little while ago and was very impressed with our performance in the second half especially. Seems halftime adjustments are key. Whether we just calm down and get into our groove or Buzz lights everyone on fire at half, I don't know, but it sure seems to work.

Of the 19,000 or so at the game, I was fortunate enough to sit by 5 of the Gtown fans in the lower bowl. By far, some of the most obnoxious fans out there in the first half. Fortunately for myself and all the MU faithful I sit around, they were mighty quiet in the second half.....

I know we view Gtown as a big game whenever we play, but I think we have yet to earn the respect of some of the fans of other "elite" opponents. Maybe it's just me, but I think games like these help validate our name as one of the elite BE teams.

Did anyone else have any interesting encounters with Hoya fans today at the BC? Didn't seem like there were very many there.....

Go to the Big East Tournament and many of them are real jerks, unfortunately.  Pitt fans the worst.  I actually had good experiences with the Syracuse fans, PC and WVU.   GTown, Pitt and UCONN were very arrogant.  I guess it goes with winning.

[foreverwarriors]

I live and work in DC...and not one GU alum was willing to take a bet on this game. In fact, when I told them that Pomeroy had MU as a 3 point favorite winning 60% of the time, they all said they expected GU to lose by much more than that!

[Sir Lawrence]

I live and work in DC...and not one GU alum was willing to take a bet on this game. In fact, when I told them that Pomeroy had MU as a 3 point favorite winning 60% of the time, they all said they expected GU to lose by much more than that!

And.........they were right.  Good Jesuit education will do that.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I live and work in DC...and not one GU alum was willing to take a bet on this game. In fact, when I told them that Pomeroy had MU as a 3 point favorite winning 60% of the time, they all said they expected GU to lose by much more than that!

They were smart.  GU is not playing well right now as everyone is aware.  Losses to Seton Hall and Cincinnati coming into our game did not bode well for them.  They're deficient at the guard spot especially.

[77ncaachamps]

They were smart.  GU is not playing well right now as everyone is aware.  Losses to Seton Hall and Cincinnati coming into our game did not bode well for them.  They're deficient at the guard spot especially.

It could have just as easily gone GU's way if Summer was 100%, they received more FT opportunities (or we had significantly less), and their hot 1st half 3 pt shooting held up.

But I'm glad those three things did NOT happen.

[bilsu]

It could have just as easily gone GU's way if Summer was 100%, they received more FT opportunities (or we had significantly less), and their hot 1st half 3 pt shooting held up.

But I'm glad those three things did NOT happen.

I believe Summers had his season high today in points.

[ecompt]

G'town fans are not nearly as arrogant as UCONN fans. Those guys in Storrs have absolutely nothing to live for other than their basketball teams. Their coaches are pompous asses and their fans piss off every other school at the BE Tournament.

[5YearsatMU]

G'town fans are not nearly as arrogant as UCONN fans. Those guys in Storrs have absolutely nothing to live for other than their basketball teams. Their coaches are pompous asses and their fans piss off every other school at the BE Tournament.

Wow, when we went to the BE tournament last year, we had the best interactions with G'town and UConn fans.  We stayed in the same hotel as WV, and they were jerks, and the Pitt people were horrid. .  .

[cheebs09]

I stand corrected on the Thompson family tree, but I think I remember some of the radio folks around here calling him Junior. Regardless, he's still a great coach.

I think most everybody refers to him as junior, I think that I saw a thread on the Georgetown board about this subject, and since John Thompson was usually referred to just that and not junior he has always just been Sr. and JT3 is junior. And I agree, he is my second favorite coach in he Big East after Buzz of course. I don't think I've ever heard a bad word about him.

[SCdem@MU]

Gtown fans are by far the worst fans in the BE. I've traveled to a number of away games and I've never been treated as poorly as I was at the verizon center two years ago. When we walked in there were several groups of drunk gtown fans purposefully knocking into and shoving female Marquette fans. While seated in the lower bowl gtown fans threw various items at us from the upper bowl and I don't even want to try to publish the profanity laced taunts that they were yelling at us when we lost.

I live in DC and I'm going to the game this year and I am preparing for war. I hope MU drops 100 on them. 

[patso]

you really can't comment on the class of a school's fan base simply because you ran into some drunk a-holes after a game

[SCdem@MU]

you really can't comment on the class of a school's fan base simply because you ran into some drunk a-holes after a game

It was before, during, and after if you read what I actually wrote. I was with a very large group of Marquette fans and we were all seated in different parts of the Verizon center and the consensus was pretty much the same.

I've been to a lot of opposing teams home courts/stadiums and I have never witnessed the level classlessness and lack of respect that I saw at the Verizon Center.

[LastWarrior]

There was a busload of Gtown fans at Mars Cheese Castle after the game.   They were all plowed.   I'd be surprised if a handful of them even knew they lost the game when they wake up

I saw a busload of GT fans at Mars last year and they were drunk pricks.  There were a bunch of MU fans in the store and the GT fans started taunting the MU fans.  Luckily my wife dragged me out of there before anything escalated.  Really left a bad taste in my mouth about their fans. 

[muwarrior87]

I saw a busload of GT fans at Mars last year and they were drunk pricks.  There were a bunch of MU fans in the store and the GT fans started taunting the MU fans.  Luckily my wife dragged me out of there before anything escalated.  Really left a bad taste in my mouth about their fans. 

should have eaten some cheese. would have gotten rid of that bad taste and replaced it with a great one 

[MarquetteDano]

Interesting reading this thread regarding the various fan groups.  As a person who travels extensively for work,  I get a chance to see a lot of different fan bases.  One thing I have learned to discount is students and generally younger fans.  As a whole, most students and younger fans are about the same.  They are going to be passionate, sometimes drunk, and that can be discounted.

To me, what is more telling is when you have 40+ year olds acting like asses.  That is the real sign of a poor fan base.  You also need a good sample size of people as there is always going to be the occasional jerk in every fan base.

That said, Louisville wins the prize of worst fan base in the Big East.  I have seen it at C-USA tourneys.  I saw it in New York last year, I have seen it going to some games in the 'Ville (not even against Marquette).  I have seen it when they travel to Milwaukee.  I have seen it when I just meet a fan on the street or at a restaurant.  They are just a little too "passionate".  Worst yet, there is a general lack of honesty and a revisionist history of events that occur.

Of course this is not bad mouthing all Cardinal fans.  They are plenty of good ones too.  It just they appear to have the largest minority of bad fans.

[jmayer1]

it's about half the size of MU

2007 Enrollment

MU

Undergrad - 7,955
Total - 11,516

http://www.marquette.edu/oira/documents/f_hdct_acadcar_coll.pdf

GU

Undergrad - 6,853
Total - 14,148

http://explore.georgetown.edu/documents/?DocumentID=742

The excuse that GU doesn't draw as well as MU due to size is simply wrong.

[Knight Commission]

Thanks for posting but i question your character by the apparent pride you are taking by quoting a stat that only 3% of the GU students are from Washington DC. Are you pround of this?

I would consider that a problem. Its a shame your school alienates these potential students. Most schools would love to be located in a city with an opportunity to reach these students.

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Thompson "Jr" coached the Hoyas from 1972-99. His son is John Thompson III.

I don't sense the same antipathy some are trying to raise in this thread between each schools. The fact is that Marquette and Georgetown don't share much of an atheltic rivalry, its students are coming from different parts of the country, and there aren't a lot of ties beyond men's basketball.

Marquette enjoys great support in the Milwaukee region, but a great deal of MU students and alumni live within a few hours of Wisconsin Avenue. By contrast, only 3% of Georgetown students come from Washington DC, it's about half the size of MU, and most of its alumni are not even in DC, making a "home court advantage" an ongoing challenge. We're working on it, but between the Redskins, the NBA, the NHL, Maryland, and six other D-I schools within 45 minutes of the campus, there are a lot of competitors for the sports dollar.

I would like to see MU and Georgetown be active in more sports between them, but this does not seem likely. Of Georgetown's five most active sports, MU competes in just two of them: basketball and track. There's no lacrosse program at MU, no baseball program, and I suspect Fr. Wild would sooner wear a Warriors sweatshirt than add I-AA football. (If he changes his mind, Georgetown, Fordham, and Holy Cross are all available for the schedule.)

Distance aside, there hasn't been enough time elapsed for MU and DePaul to have established rivaries with the more established Big East teams.

[WashDCWarrior]

Having seen away games at a number of BE schools, I'd say:

Good Fans
Villanova
Cinci

Tolerable Fans
West Virginia
Georgetown
Louisville

Terrible Fans
Pitt