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[MuggsyB]

Think he still has a lot of potential so bummer to lose him.

But assuming no surprise players leave, he was gonna have no chance at PT next year.

What are your playing time expectations for Lowrey and Norman as Frosh?

[BCHoopster]

That's a tough question, Tre and Lowery are both good players, for Tre, he will have to beat out Jones, if he does that then 15 minutes. For Lowery he will have to beat out Ross, I do not see it, maybe 5 minutes.

[Uncle Rico]

That's a tough question, Tre and Lowery are both good players, for Tre, he will have to beat out Jones, if he does that then 15 minutes. For Lowery he will have to beat out Ross, I do not see it, maybe 5 minutes.

Taking expectations for freshman and subtract 80% of expectations

[Hards Alumni]

He just got Out-Smart-ed

Been sitting on that one for over a year huh

[Uncle Rico]

Been sitting on that one for over a year huh

Just wanted to beat Badger fans to the punch

[We R Final Four]

Nope that means full.

Why don't people get this?

[GoldenWarrior11]

Good luck to Ellis, hoping he finds a great opportunity at his next stop.  I could see him dropping down a level and becoming a lead player at a next program.  Perhaps a place like Wichita State, SLU or Drake.

Regardless, hope it's a good fit for him.

[tower912]

Wisconsin is a mid major. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Unless...we did.

I agree with this analysis

[wadesworld]

We saw him as a spot player as a freshman. Imagine what we'd think of Oso if players never developed over their 4 year college career.

[MU82]

We saw him as a spot player as a freshman. Imagine what we'd think of Oso if players never developed over their 4 year college career.

Excellent point.

Those who thought Marquette would stink this year were incapable of believing that our returning players could improve significantly. It simply didn't dawn on them.

I look for guys like Ross, Gold and Sean Jones to improve significantly, and I'm already very excited about next season.

[WarriorFan]

Really liked his game and thought he could come back and contribute.  I'm sure there are programs where he can get serious minutes.

Could we send him "down" to Bradley and then bring him back up after a couple years there?  Like MU's own G-league team?

[Herman Cain]

When the news came that EE was having surgery, it was also mentioned that he as ailing for quite some time . So we never got to see a healthy EE.

I respect the young man for putting in the effort to gain muscle in the meantime .

My guess is there will be many schools interested based on EEs MU/Shaka pedigree.

[lawdog77]

Been sitting on that one for over a year huh

two years. Pay me my royalties.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61767.msg1331986#msg1331986

[Elonsmusk]

Good luck to EE - seemed like a great young man and wish him all the best at his next destination.

[Daniel]

Shaka was pretty high on EE's potential.   If healthy, I'm sure he will be a solid player just based on what Shaka saw in him.  All the best to the young man.   

[Viper]

Wisconsin is a mid major.

I agree with this

[mug644]

Excellent point.

Those who thought Marquette would stink this year were incapable of believing that our returning players could improve significantly. It simply didn't dawn on them.

I look for guys like Ross, Gold and Sean Jones to improve significantly, and I'm already very excited about next season.

And this is what EE may have seen as the writing on the wall. He might not break into the rotation next season if the 2022-23 team stays intact. Add in the new class, and his bid for playing time is even more difficult.

I appreciate EE's efforts with and commitment to MU. And I wish him all the best moving forward.

[mileskishnish72]

Good luck, E² - wish you'd had better health so you could have shown us what you could do at MU.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

100%

There will likely be more squeezing either in the upcoming year or the following. MU played 9 deep this year; it is pretty much impossible to find playing time for 12/13 guys and keep them all happy.

[GoldenEagles03]

100%

There will likely be more squeezing either in the upcoming year or the following. MU played 9 deep this year; it is pretty much impossible to find playing time for 12/13 guys and keep them all happy.

You definitely could be right but let's say everyone comes back...they make a deeper run in March.

Oso and OMax would almost certainly be gone after next season. Kolek probably? would too. All of a sudden there is (at least) 3 starting spots available.

All of a sudden Ross is slotted in as a starter, Norman and Sean have increased minutes with one of them starting. Maybe Amadou and Gold slot in as well.

I get why we all assume movement, but maybe this development and relationships philosophy really is something here...who knows!

[BCHoopster]

100%

There will likely be more squeezing either in the upcoming year or the following. MU played 9 deep this year; it is pretty much impossible to find playing time for 12/13 guys and keep them all happy.

College basketball has changed, you do not know who will be on your team from year to year due to the portal.  So you recruit 13 kids, and some will see the
writing on the wall, or the coach will tell him he has to go.  Also, you can recruit a project or two, like MU has.  Those can be your 12th or 13th man, and someday
they can turn into a Frank Kaminsky, who barely played the his first 2 years.  I expect some kids will leave after next year as they might be beat out for playing time
next year.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

College basketball has changed, you do not know who will be on your team from year to year due to the portal.  So you recruit 13 kids, and some will see the
writing on the wall, or the coach will tell him he has to go.  Also, you can recruit a project or two, like MU has.  Those can be your 12th or 13th man, and someday
they can turn into a Frank Kaminsky, who barely played the his first 2 years.  I expect some kids will leave after next year as they might be beat out for playing time
next year.

We are saying the same thing. Of course you recruit the 12th and 13th guy, but EE is leaving (as is Wrightsil) because they want more than 12th/13th guy minutes.

Keeyan is a slightly different story in that after two years in the program he could only get walk-on minutes; think the writing was on the wall for him.