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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: panda on March 27, 2023, 04:02:42 PM

Title: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: panda on March 27, 2023, 04:02:42 PM
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1640458460058861576?s=20

Emarion Ellis packs his bags
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: erubiel on March 27, 2023, 04:05:51 PM
Live that he suited up those last few weeks...
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: nyg on March 27, 2023, 04:08:04 PM
Live that he suited up those last few weeks...

He could come back, just putting his name in.  Unless told to. If so, good luck to the player and his comeback from injury. 

Wrightsil(presuming) plus Ellis means one under now. 
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: zcg2013 on March 27, 2023, 04:08:20 PM
Unfortunate he couldn't stay healthy this year, but I got a feeling he was going to struggle finding playing time next year. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 27, 2023, 04:08:47 PM
We're not over the scholarship limit now.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Tyler COLEk on March 27, 2023, 04:09:44 PM
Hope he has a hell of a collegiate career wherever he lands.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: pbiflyer on March 27, 2023, 04:09:50 PM
He could come back, just putting his name in.  Unless told to. If so, good luck to the player and his comeback from injury. 

Wrightsil(presuming) plus Ellis means one under now.

Nope that means full.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 27, 2023, 04:12:03 PM
Seemed inevitable.  The injury put him behind and we MU is very deep at guard.

Good luck, Emarion!
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2023, 04:12:31 PM
He just got Out-Smart-ed
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: MuggsyB on March 27, 2023, 04:19:27 PM
Very Unfortunate.  Wishing the young man all the best. 
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 27, 2023, 04:21:01 PM
Wrightsil(presuming) plus Ellis means one under now.

Check your math
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 27, 2023, 04:23:07 PM
 :'(

Was really looking forward to seeing him play.  Hope he lands somewhere that I can watch some of his games.  Big14Ten would be ideal.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: NickelDimer on March 27, 2023, 04:30:28 PM
Best of luck
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: tower912 on March 27, 2023, 04:33:31 PM
Sorry it did work out at MU for him
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2023, 04:34:29 PM
First, here's hoping he recovers fully from all injuries. Second, here's hoping he lands somewhere he can get real playing time.

Some folks who worried a little too much about the scholarship situation can relax now.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Tha Hound on March 27, 2023, 04:36:57 PM
Think this is the best case scenario for all parties. Hope he bounces back and plays well for whatever program lands him.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 27, 2023, 04:42:37 PM
Best of luck to him. If he ultimately does leave, I hope he finds a great situation. I also hope that despite the fact that he was injured, his time at Marquette provided some value to him. He seemed like a great kid off the floor and I really enjoyed some of the stuff MU released showing him interacting with people in the community.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: wadesworld on March 27, 2023, 04:54:03 PM
Bummed we never got to see what he was capable of because of injuries.  I hope he gets healthy and has success.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 27, 2023, 04:56:36 PM
This bums me out, but something had to give.

Why is Wrightsil not in the portal tho?

And can we get a much clearer thread title.  Had no idea this was going to be about Ellis in the portal.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 27, 2023, 04:59:27 PM
Why is Wrightsil not in the portal tho?
Maybe he is just done with college
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 27, 2023, 05:02:48 PM
Sorry it did work out at MU for him

???

Actually, I think you <accidentally> are right.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Goose on March 27, 2023, 05:14:10 PM
From what I had heard most of the season, the Ellis transfer was expected. Hope he has success on and off the court. IMO, he is one of approx 15-20 guys that helped build the foundation at MU.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Mu8891 on March 27, 2023, 06:04:34 PM
Hope he finds a place he can play …
Good luck

But, obviously it is VERY unlikely he was ever going to play at MU
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 27, 2023, 06:18:37 PM
Bummed we never got to see what he was capable of

Unless...we did.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 27, 2023, 06:23:27 PM
Think he still has a lot of potential so bummer to lose him.

But assuming no surprise players leave, he was gonna have no chance at PT next year.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: MuggsyB on March 27, 2023, 06:32:58 PM
Think he still has a lot of potential so bummer to lose him.

But assuming no surprise players leave, he was gonna have no chance at PT next year.

What are your playing time expectations for Lowrey and Norman as Frosh?
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: BCHoopster on March 27, 2023, 06:50:33 PM
That’s a tough question, Tre and Lowery are both good players, for Tre, he will have to beat out Jones, if he does that then 15 minutes. For Lowery he will have to beat out Ross, I do not see it, maybe 5 minutes.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2023, 06:54:08 PM
That’s a tough question, Tre and Lowery are both good players, for Tre, he will have to beat out Jones, if he does that then 15 minutes. For Lowery he will have to beat out Ross, I do not see it, maybe 5 minutes.

Taking expectations for freshman and subtract 80% of expectations
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Hards Alumni on March 27, 2023, 06:56:02 PM
He just got Out-Smart-ed

Been sitting on that one for over a year huh
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Uncle Rico on March 27, 2023, 06:57:46 PM
Been sitting on that one for over a year huh

Just wanted to beat Badger fans to the punch
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: We R Final Four on March 27, 2023, 07:18:16 PM
Nope that means full.
Why don’t people get this?
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 27, 2023, 07:32:48 PM
Good luck to Ellis, hoping he finds a great opportunity at his next stop.  I could see him dropping down a level and becoming a lead player at a next program.  Perhaps a place like Wichita State, SLU or Drake.

Regardless, hope it's a good fit for him.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: tower912 on March 27, 2023, 07:34:49 PM
Wisconsin is a mid major. 
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 27, 2023, 08:39:12 PM
Unless...we did.
I agree with this analysis
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: wadesworld on March 27, 2023, 09:43:39 PM
We saw him as a spot player as a freshman. Imagine what we’d think of Oso if players never developed over their 4 year college career.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: MU82 on March 27, 2023, 10:12:13 PM
We saw him as a spot player as a freshman. Imagine what we’d think of Oso if players never developed over their 4 year college career.

Excellent point.

Those who thought Marquette would stink this year were incapable of believing that our returning players could improve significantly. It simply didn't dawn on them.

I look for guys like Ross, Gold and Sean Jones to improve significantly, and I'm already very excited about next season.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: WarriorFan on March 27, 2023, 10:25:01 PM
Really liked his game and thought he could come back and contribute.  I'm sure there are programs where he can get serious minutes.

Could we send him "down" to Bradley and then bring him back up after a couple years there?  Like MU's own G-league team?
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Herman Cain on March 27, 2023, 10:51:03 PM
When the news came that EE was having surgery, it was also mentioned that he as ailing for quite some time . So we never got to see a healthy EE.

I respect the young man for putting in the effort to gain muscle in the meantime .

My guess is there will be many schools interested based on EEs MU/Shaka pedigree.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: lawdog77 on March 28, 2023, 08:16:15 AM
Been sitting on that one for over a year huh
two years. Pay me my royalties.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61767.msg1331986#msg1331986 (https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61767.msg1331986#msg1331986)
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Elonsmusk on March 28, 2023, 09:00:42 AM
Good luck to EE - seemed like a great young man and wish him all the best at his next destination.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Daniel on March 28, 2023, 09:25:27 AM
Shaka was pretty high on EE’s potential.   If healthy, I’m sure he will be a solid player just based on what Shaka saw in him.  All the best to the young man.   
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: Viper on March 28, 2023, 09:43:59 AM
Wisconsin is a mid major.
I agree with this
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: mug644 on March 28, 2023, 11:01:11 AM
Excellent point.

Those who thought Marquette would stink this year were incapable of believing that our returning players could improve significantly. It simply didn't dawn on them.

I look for guys like Ross, Gold and Sean Jones to improve significantly, and I'm already very excited about next season.

And this is what EE may have seen as the writing on the wall. He might not break into the rotation next season if the 2022-23 team stays intact. Add in the new class, and his bid for playing time is even more difficult.

I appreciate EE’s efforts with and commitment to MU. And I wish him all the best moving forward.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 28, 2023, 11:12:19 AM
Good luck, E² - wish you'd had better health so you could have shown us what you could do at MU.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 28, 2023, 11:12:28 AM
100%

There will likely be more squeezing either in the upcoming year or the following. MU played 9 deep this year; it is pretty much impossible to find playing time for 12/13 guys and keep them all happy.
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: GoldenEagles03 on March 28, 2023, 11:17:54 AM
100%

There will likely be more squeezing either in the upcoming year or the following. MU played 9 deep this year; it is pretty much impossible to find playing time for 12/13 guys and keep them all happy.

You definitely could be right but let's say everyone comes back...they make a deeper run in March.

Oso and OMax would almost certainly be gone after next season. Kolek probably? would too. All of a sudden there is (at least) 3 starting spots available.

All of a sudden Ross is slotted in as a starter, Norman and Sean have increased minutes with one of them starting. Maybe Amadou and Gold slot in as well.

I get why we all assume movement, but maybe this development and relationships philosophy really is something here...who knows!
Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: BCHoopster on March 28, 2023, 11:21:07 AM
100%

There will likely be more squeezing either in the upcoming year or the following. MU played 9 deep this year; it is pretty much impossible to find playing time for 12/13 guys and keep them all happy.

College basketball has changed, you do not know who will be on your team from year to year due to the portal.  So you recruit 13 kids, and some will see the
writing on the wall, or the coach will tell him he has to go.  Also, you can recruit a project or two, like MU has.  Those can be your 12th or 13th man, and someday
they can turn into a Frank Kaminsky, who barely played the his first 2 years.  I expect some kids will leave after next year as they might be beat out for playing time
next year.

Title: Re: 5 Start Flash Breaking News
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 28, 2023, 12:29:39 PM
College basketball has changed, you do not know who will be on your team from year to year due to the portal.  So you recruit 13 kids, and some will see the
writing on the wall, or the coach will tell him he has to go.  Also, you can recruit a project or two, like MU has.  Those can be your 12th or 13th man, and someday
they can turn into a Frank Kaminsky, who barely played the his first 2 years.  I expect some kids will leave after next year as they might be beat out for playing time
next year.
We are saying the same thing. Of course you recruit the 12th and 13th guy, but EE is leaving (as is Wrightsil) because they want more than 12th/13th guy minutes.

Keeyan is a slightly different story in that after two years in the program he could only get walk-on minutes; think the writing was on the wall for him.