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Galway Eagle

Quote from: hoyasincebirth on July 15, 2014, 04:45:59 PM
Besides this line: "Unfortunately for fans of the Milwaukee Bucks and/or Marquette University, the basketball landscape has been anything but good." there's nothing particularly insulting or inaccurate about the article. Yeah that part is woefully inaccurate, but there wasn't really anything wrong with the rest.

Derrick wilson will lead the way?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

nathanziarek

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 15, 2014, 02:44:56 PM
Outside of a few inaccuracies, none of which were terribly consequential, I didn't think the article was *that* bad.

That's what I thought. Last year was the year I was excited about for MU Hoops, and something went wrong. This year, even with the class Buzz had coming in, was always going to be a rebuilding year. Having Buzz leave and taking some players with him made it just a bit bleaker. Wojo has his work cut out for him for sure.

The part I disliked was that it didn't give enough credit to the overall state of the program -- it's not in utter disrepair like VT. It's hitting a down swing like all programs (even Duke and UNC) go through.
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hoops12

#27
After reading the article, I couldn't get through to add a comment for quite some time. I finally got my two cents in a few minutes ago. Enjoy!  ;D


July 15, 2014 at 6:48 pm
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This article is obviously "amateur hour" at its worst. First, get some things straight. Marquette is a great basketball program with an incredible tradition. It is not even close to being a place where Coach Wojo will have to "rebuild" and it most definitely is not a "troubled program" as you put it. Marquette was picked to win the Big East last season. They disappointed everyone, including their fans. However, the three years prior to that MU went to the Sweet 16, Sweet 16, and Elite 8. There was also a Big East Championship won two years ago. That is not the resume of a "struggling program". Buzz Williams went to the NCAA Tournament 5 out of his 6 years at Marquette. Crean was consistently in the NCAA and guided the team to the Final Four in 2003. The current roster has at least 6 or 7 top 100 recruits. The current sophomore recruiting class was ranked in the top 10 nationally. So, if you are going to write an article, do some research first! Wojo came to Marquette for one major reason. He came to continue the tradition of maintaining a top tier program! A program that wins and produces NBA talent. Struggling programs don't consistently develop players like Wade, Butler, Crowder, Novak, Matthews and others. Wojo knows Marquette's tradition and he knows he can continue to bring in big time talent and win. Just like Buzz, Crean. Kevin O'Neil, Rick Majerus and Al McGuire did before him. Get your facts straight!
Read more at http://dukereport.com/alumni/jabari-wojo-wholl-better-milwaukee/dsmith/#4dhYSmjyzwHPVuoe.99

Galway Eagle

Quote from: hoops12 on July 15, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
After reading the article, I couldn't get through to add a comment for quite some time. I finally got my two cents in a few minutes ago. Enjoy!  ;D


July 15, 2014 at 6:48 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

This article is obviously "amateur hour" at its worst. First, get some things straight. Marquette is a great basketball program with an incredible tradition. It is not even close to being a place where Coach Wojo will have to "rebuild" and it most definitely is not a "troubled program" as you put it. Marquette was picked to win the Big East last season. They disappointed everyone, including their fans. However, the three years prior to that MU went to the Sweet 16, Sweet 16, and Elite 8. There was also a Big East Championship won two years ago. That is not the resume of a "struggling program". Buzz Williams went to the NCAA Tournament 5 out of his 6 years at Marquette. Crean was consistently in the NCAA and guided the team to the Final Four in 2003. The current roster has at least 6 or 7 top 100 recruits. The current sophomore recruiting class was ranked in the top 10 nationally. So, if you are going to write an article, do some research first! Wojo came to Marquette for one major reason. He came to continue the tradition of maintaining a top tier program! A program that wins and produces NBA talent. Struggling programs don't consistently develop players like Wade, Butler, Crowder, Novak, Matthews and others. Wojo knows Marquette's tradition and he knows he can continue to bring in big time talent and win. Just like Buzz, Crean. Kevin O'Neil, Rick Majerus and Al McGuire did before him. Get your facts straight!
Read more at http://dukereport.com/alumni/jabari-wojo-wholl-better-milwaukee/dsmith/#4dhYSmjyzwHPVuoe.99


Very similar to what I posted.  Still don't understand why we include Majerus when listing our best coaches I mean Deane at least got us to the NCAAs, Raymonds did so consistently.  Nagle and Hickey as well.  But other than that I love your post. 
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Dawson Rental

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Quote from: shiloh26 on July 15, 2014, 01:38:52 PM
This is a pretty fantastic lede:

"Fans of Wayne's World and/or Alice Cooper will know that Milwaukee is an Algonquin name meaning, "The Good Land." Unfortunately for fans of the Milwaukee Bucks and/or Marquette University, the basketball landscape has been anything but good."

That is just good writing.

Let's try to beat it.  I'll go with: "The Violent Femmes, from MIlwaukee, once sang "Good Feeling."  Unfortunately for Bucks and/or MU, the feelings in Milwaukee have not been so good, when it comes to basketball."


John Wayne, a/k/a "Duke" embodied those qualities—strength, moral authority, independence, freedom, integrity, and the courage of conviction—that Duke University wishes to not have confused with its basketball team of flopping pansies as it indicates every time that its sues the Estate of John Wayne over licensing products using Wayne's Duke nickname.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Tugg Speedman

Quote from: TJ on July 15, 2014, 02:31:20 PM
Seriously...

Not to mention he's just flat out incorrect.  They've had 15 Final Fours under 3 different coaches.  Unless he thinks Coach K was there in 1963, 1964, 1966, & 1978...

Serious question ... 1963 to 1966, which was the bigger tourney?  NCAA or NIT?

4everwarriors

Quote from: keefe on July 15, 2014, 04:02:59 PM
Not just one of the most lopsided but certainly one of the most shameful defeats in Marquette's history. To be humiliated on so public a stage is hateful.


Crean sucks
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Sir Lawrence

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on July 15, 2014, 06:08:27 PM
Very similar to what I posted.  Still don't understand why we include Majerus when listing our best coaches I mean Deane at least got us to the NCAAs, Raymonds did so consistently.  Nagle and Hickey as well.  But other than that I love your post. 

Re:  Majerus.  Name recognition, and what he did after he moved on and the ongoing respect he had for the MU program. 
Ludum habemus.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Heisenberg on July 15, 2014, 07:34:57 PM
Serious question ... 1963 to 1966, which was the bigger tourney?  NCAA or NIT?

NCAA for sure, but it was fairly close.

GurneeHitchkr

Schlemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated.
We're gonna do it!

"Wojo will just have to rely on his home grown brew".
(Younger guys probably won't get it)

mileskishnish72

Interesting article - biggest surprise was that Nick is apparently going to forego his senior year and will be able to contribute at MU this year.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Sir Lawrence on July 15, 2014, 08:17:19 PM
Re:  Majerus.  Name recognition, and what he did after he moved on and the ongoing respect he had for the MU program. 

Gotcha.  It always just struck me as odd considering we all hate on deane but at least he got us to an NIT championship and two NCAA appearances and everybody just says Raymonds was a "good guy" but he added a few NCAA appearances to our resume
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

77ncaachamps

Quote from: Atticus on July 15, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
If you are going to undermine duke's tourney performance throughout the programs history, I'm curious what you have to say about ours.

We have one final four appearance in the last 35+ years and, if I'm not mistaken, it was one of the most lopsided games in final four history. And the worst part is is that KU didn't even win the title.

Wow. They did reach the Final Four pre-Coach K.
Who would have thunk it.

But I WAS just highlighting the last three years of Duke bkb.
(of course, 4 years ago, they won it all.)


I know they own MU since Coach K's tenure began.

Just pointing out the last three years. And proud MU has done really well considering the inability to attract burger boys and their like talent.
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