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Title: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 05:34:11 PM
Sean Miller
Tony Bennett (would he leave WSU?)

Most importantly to me- someone who isn't going to bolt in the next 5 years...
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: wheresthecake? on April 01, 2008, 05:36:43 PM
Tony Bennett

Buzz Williams
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 01, 2008, 05:37:45 PM
I like both of those choices. Makes one wonder if this may be why Tony Bennet "turned down" Indiana. Perhaps his move to MU is the second domino.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: muPARTY on April 01, 2008, 05:38:57 PM
(start list)

Sean Miller!

(end list)




btw- Bennett wouldn't leave WSU, he pulled his name from the IU search.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on April 01, 2008, 05:39:51 PM
Bob Mckillop from Davidson.  But I guess I would prefer someone a little younger...
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Secret of the Ouse on April 01, 2008, 05:40:51 PM
Jim Boylan?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 05:41:31 PM
The IU job is a MESS. I don't blame him for not wanting to go there.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Detfan23 on April 01, 2008, 05:42:29 PM
In no particular order:

Buzz, Miller, Anthony Grant, Lon Kruger, and Bennett
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 01, 2008, 05:43:15 PM
Quote from: muPARTY on April 01, 2008, 05:38:57 PM


btw- Bennett wouldn't leave WSU, he pulled his name from the IU search.

Or so the story goes...If he however found out he was second choice to Crean, obviously he beats them to the punch and puts the word out he's not interested, perhaps because he sees an opportunity to return to Wisconsin. As much sense as Crean to MU makes sense, Bennet to MU makes sense. That said, I love defense - love it, but I am not a big fan of his style.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MUSF on April 01, 2008, 05:44:16 PM
NO TONY BENNETT!!!!!!!!!!

Do we really want to go back to that brand of BBall?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 01, 2008, 05:45:51 PM
Give me one good reason why Buzz Williams should even be a candidate! Because he was such a hot prospect at New Orleans? A school he abandoned? Or because he got two unqualified students into MU?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: nyg on April 01, 2008, 05:46:25 PM
Day late with Darin Horn.

Go with Anthony Grant from VCU.  
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: CTWarrior on April 01, 2008, 05:46:54 PM
1.  Sean Miller

2.  Montgomery from Stanford (pipe dream)

3.  Whoever is most likely to keep our current recruits.

No to Bennett, O'Neill, Majerus.  Dull basketball.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 01, 2008, 05:50:01 PM
Quote from: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 05:34:11 PM
Sean Miller
Tony Bennett (would he leave WSU?)

Most importantly to me- someone who isn't going to bolt in the next 5 years...

That's why Sean Miller is out in my mind, he's waiting for the Pitt job in my opinion....but don't worry, we've been told here time and time again how folks will be beating down our door.  Should be a walk in the park and then the new coach can go down to the grocery store where all the 6'11" studs are just pick up a few of them too.  I just hope the new coach doesn't have a tinge of olive in his skin, I'd hate to have that become an issue.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on April 01, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
Sean Miller.

Cottingham should be on a plane to Cinci right now to meet with him. We need to have someone in the next two weeks to ensure the team returns next year, and we don't lose recruits. This is awful.

I'm mad...but at the end of the day, I understand IU is much higher profile than MU.

But at the end of the day, I was furious they hired Cottingham full time earlier this year. It's his time to shine and all our hopes are on his shoulders and I'm not confidant he's up for the gig.

Again, MU better NOT bring in an assistant. We are big time now. Playing with the big boys.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Doctor V on April 01, 2008, 05:52:43 PM
bob knight? i wish. i like bennett and miller. scot skiles is another name to through out there
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Ahoya06 on April 01, 2008, 05:55:08 PM
Outside-

Miller
Bennett
Darrin Horn (wishful thinking, getting him to back out of the SC gig)

Internal-

Williams
What about coach Rab?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: passion of da coach on April 01, 2008, 05:56:31 PM
what about making a run at Bruce Weber?

he's from milwaukee, coming to MU from U of I may be a lateral move, but I have to believe he's sick of Illini nation, I would be.

better facilities, he doesn't have the pressue of the standing in Ron Zook's shadown and the budding football program.

his recruiting has improved, I can honestly say Crean's classes are about as talented...

Or Steve Lavin, way back when he was hot for the DePaul job?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on April 01, 2008, 05:51:10 PM
Cottingham should be on a plane to Cinci right now to meet with him.

Unfortunately Cottingham is on a plane to Colorado with the Women's basketball team...
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: SGWarrior on April 01, 2008, 05:58:46 PM
1. Miller
2. Bennett
3. Buzz

Or how about this name.  I have no idea whether or not its possible but.........................Bruce Weber?  

MKE ties, idolized Al.......
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: TJ on April 01, 2008, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: dwaderoy2004 on April 01, 2008, 05:39:51 PM
Bob Mckillop from Davidson.  But I guess I would prefer someone a little younger...
so he can leave here still a young man when a "better" job comes up?

Sorry, just bitter at the moment - he would be a great hire if you could get him.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: marquette09 on April 01, 2008, 06:00:37 PM
If Skiles wants the job it should be his, he would be a tremendous college coach, however you would have to worry about him bolting back to the NBA
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 01, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
I love the idea of Bruce Weber. And I think he would consider it.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 01, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
Can't believe it took me this long to think of it...

Bruce Pearl, Come on Down!

I know a lot of folks don't care for him, but if Cottingham has not already made the phone call, I would suggest he look up the number.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Niv Berkowitz on April 01, 2008, 06:02:26 PM
Can we drop all the "ties" to Milwaukee? That should have no bearing at all on this search. And anyone that honestly says Knight is a moron.

Bennett is a hot name but I don't love his style.

Kruger
Miller
Montgomery

And it is too bad Horn just left WKU or that would have been a decent start.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Ahoya06 on April 01, 2008, 06:03:45 PM
I don't think Weber would be a good idea. I think that program has moved backwards since Self's recruits graduated.

Pearl's probably a pipe dream, between his success at UT, and his animosity towards us while at UWM.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: HelixAir6 on April 01, 2008, 06:09:49 PM
I agree on Weber as well, check out his '09 class verbals, if we can bring those guys with, that would be nice
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: SGWarrior on April 01, 2008, 06:10:31 PM
What about Jay Wright?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Doctor V on April 01, 2008, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 01, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
I love the idea of Bruce Weber. And I think he would consider it.

really? you talk crap about creans recruiting and then say this- dude grow up you are a joke. weber cant even recruit his own family members. he won with a team that he inherited and has destroyed the team since.

you have lost all credability, if there was any left
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: muwarrior87 on April 01, 2008, 06:12:51 PM
Bobby Knight.  ;)
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: SGWarrior on April 01, 2008, 06:16:49 PM
Weber has some great great great recruits coming in.  Paul, Richardson, Crandall Head, among others. 

Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: McHenryWarrior on April 01, 2008, 06:10:31 PM
What about Jay Wright?


Like the guy at lot. 2nd favorite   Current favorite coach in the BE, but it's a lateral move.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: nyg on April 01, 2008, 06:22:16 PM
Can't see Bruce Weber and Jay Wright leaving their current jobs.  Weber just recruited an outstanding 2008 and 2009 class, but his program has gone down since his arrival.  Don't need no negative waves.  Wright would almost be a lateral move from Villanova.  Lavin, Knight, Montgomery, Pearl, Skiles no way.  Agree with previous thread re: Sean Miller.  He would be exceptional selection, but once that PITT job is open, goodbye. I stand by my pick of Anthony Grant from VCU.  A well versed coach, who would relish an opportunity to be here and would be the first African American coach at MU.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: farmdaddy on April 01, 2008, 06:22:42 PM
Quote from: passion of da coach on April 01, 2008, 05:56:31 PM
what about making a run at Bruce Weber?

he's from milwaukee, coming to MU from U of I may be a lateral move, but I have to believe he's sick of Illini nation, I would be.

better facilities, he doesn't have the pressue of the standing in Ron Zook's shadown and the budding football program.

his recruiting has improved, I can honestly say Crean's classes are about as talented...


As the son of two SIU grads, that isn't a bad idea.  He raised Southern Illinois from an unknown program.  His recruiting isn't bad.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: AlumKCof93 on April 01, 2008, 06:30:58 PM
First of all, Bobby Knight, come on?  Why don't we just go after John Wooden.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Scott Drew from Baylor.  He's from the Midwest, successful, MU has better facilities and tradition.  What's not to like?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
Lon Kruger, UNLV

Keno Davis, Drake

Chris Lowery, Southern Illinois

Scott Drew, Baylor

Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: coach85 on April 01, 2008, 06:40:56 PM
Brian Gregory - Dayton
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mueagle84 on April 01, 2008, 06:46:33 PM
How bout Mark Few from Gonzaga??? What ever happend to Quin Snyder from Missouri????
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: cubkid97 on April 01, 2008, 06:49:03 PM
Lawrence Frank
Steve Lavin
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Doctor V on April 01, 2008, 06:49:48 PM
i think its good that MU will be able to somewhat pick and choose- a result of where crean has the program

bad thing that osu job opened up- that is gonna get some press to go along with the MU opening
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: SGWarrior on April 01, 2008, 06:50:30 PM
Are Chris Collins and/or Wojohowski from Duke ready????

Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: TJ on April 01, 2008, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: cubkid97 on April 01, 2008, 06:49:03 PM
Lawrence Frank
Steve Lavin

Any talk of Steven Lavin should end with "April Fools."
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 01, 2008, 06:56:44 PM
I can provide Bruce's phone number, but he ain't coming. 

1. Sean Miller

1A. Tony Bennett

2. Kevin Stallings

3. Davidson's coach
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MUDPT on April 01, 2008, 07:01:02 PM
Tony Bennett.

One of the huge reasons he declined Indiana was his sister's relationship when she was fired/ let go. That being said, would there be any acrimony between him and MU over previous recruits?  He was on with Ryan after his dad left and I remember he was the main recruiter of Butch.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: 86Warrior on April 01, 2008, 07:01:53 PM
If we reach for an asst----it should be Wojo from Duke.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: CWSKeith on April 01, 2008, 07:03:39 PM
It's only been mentioned once, but I like Chris Lowery (sp?) from SIU.  Defensive-minded coach, and while Marquette isn't a huge program (in the grand scheme of things), it's certainly a step up from the Salukis. 
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: nyg on April 01, 2008, 07:04:59 PM
No assistants please. Especially Duke assistants.  Think Quinn Synder and Tommy Amacker.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MKEblue on April 01, 2008, 07:13:47 PM
Just spit balling here b/c I think miller is our guy but Ronnie Arrow and Jim Caple from South Alabama and Oklahome. There both solid coaches. again just spit balling here
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MarqGold17 on April 01, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
How about Jay Bilas...Guy knows his stuff and runs one of the best summer camps every year, not to mention a small stint as a Duke asst. I know its not very practical, but can you imagine him as our coach. Interesting. Sink your teeth into it. Besides he's the one analyst who actually knows what he's talking about. I think he would make a decent coach, and would give us the name splash we so desire.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: HomeCourtAdvantage on April 01, 2008, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 01, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
I love the idea of Bruce Weber. And I think he would consider it.

Bruce Weber would be my first pick.  MUHS Alum with Illinois ties.

Second would be Sean Miller, although I hate to take another quality coach from fellow Jesuit Xavier - they have lost too many good coaches over the past few years.

OR or or... just thought of this... is it time for Mark Few to leave for another Jesuit institution?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Brew City on April 01, 2008, 07:37:43 PM
A friend of mine at school here is from Cincy and pointed out that Miller has a 4-star 6'11" center coming in next year.  What if Marquette picked up Miller and this beast followed?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MDMU04 on April 01, 2008, 07:39:28 PM
Quote from: Ahoya06 on April 01, 2008, 06:03:45 PM
I don't think Weber would be a good idea. I think that program has moved backwards since Self's recruits graduated.

Pearl's probably a pipe dream, between his success at UT, and his animosity towards us while at UWM.

Think it has moved backwards? Think???  There's a f-ing impact crater he drove that program into the ground so hard.

The 2005 Illini were 100% Bill Self.  Don't even think anything different.  Southern Illinois was created by the guy who is at the helm of the Purdue program right now, Matt Painter.  He was Weber's recruiter while he was down there and took the team over once Weber left.

Bruce Weber wouldn't be the worst possible hire for this program to make right now, but it would be pretty damn close.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MonsterWebWarrior on April 01, 2008, 07:40:55 PM
I like Sean Miller.

Not that I want him, but I'm surprised none of us have mentioned Rick Majerus yet.  I figured he'd be first on someone's mind.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: jage on April 01, 2008, 07:41:29 PM
tubby smith
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Mayor McCheese on April 01, 2008, 07:42:58 PM
Keno Davis

Tony Bennett

Randy Bennett from St. Marys... the man can recruit bigs... and apparently thats what we need (we do)

Sean Miller
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: thekahoona on April 01, 2008, 07:46:43 PM
sean miller
fran frachilla
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 07:51:13 PM
Mark Few.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MUSF on April 01, 2008, 07:54:08 PM
Scott Drew
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Mayor McCheese on April 01, 2008, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 07:51:13 PM
Mark Few.

he will never leave Gonzaga....


what about Larranega from  George Mason, has created a solid program there.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2008, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on April 01, 2008, 07:57:21 PM

what about Larranega from  George Mason, has created a solid program there.

Just say no to anyone with an AARP card.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: caltruda on April 01, 2008, 08:06:07 PM
How about Steve Sutton from Oral Roberts?

I'm warm to the possibility of Gregory (Dayton) and Grant (VCU).

I have no desire to see Tony Bennett... I'd rather have O'Neill back before a bleepin' Bennett (expletive pun intentional)
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: drewm88 on April 01, 2008, 08:06:41 PM
1. Sean Miller

No particular order:
Travis Ford
Mark Few
Kevin Stallings
Jay Wright - He was mentioned but I doubt he would move within the BE.

No thank you:
Bennett - Great coach, but B O R I N G
Bruce Weber - Unless we owe the Illini a favor or something
Keno Davis - Sorry I think we're above the point where we consider a coach with 1 year of experience
Buzz Williams - Same reason, although I really, really hope he stays
Scott Drew - He's done incredible things at Baylor, but they still barely made the tournament. We are not a "bubble" program

Super intriguing but I don't know if I like:
Jay Bilas. Plus that means we wouldn't have him analyzing which he is great at.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: gregmaio on April 01, 2008, 08:07:09 PM
Jimmy Boylan, dope and all
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Chili on April 01, 2008, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: 86Warrior on April 01, 2008, 07:01:53 PM
If we reach for an asst----it should be Wojo from Duke.

I just barfed all over my computer.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: bilsu on April 01, 2008, 08:20:50 PM
I hated the guy when he was at UCLA, but I like him now as an annoucer. Steve Lavin.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: TJ on April 01, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: bilsu on April 01, 2008, 08:20:50 PM
I hated the guy when he was at UCLA, but I like him now as an annoucer. Steve Lavin.
What about his awful tenure at UCLA makes people think he would be a good coach?  Sure he's a fine announcer - when has that ever been indicative of coaching/recruiting skills.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Doctor V on April 01, 2008, 08:34:48 PM
2 things- as much as i love bilas and lavin as analysts, they would both be a coaching risk, even though jay is the crap

also, bennett is boring?? ok you know who else is- ben howland- and you know what hes done?? 3 straight final 4's

now im not saying bennett is howland, or that he could ever get MU to 3 straight final 4's, all im saying is that we shouldnt be complaining about boring if it leads to great results

youre only boring to others that are watching you win
Title: Tony Barone it's his time now!
Post by: Knight Commission on April 01, 2008, 08:41:31 PM
Tony Barone!!!
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2008, 08:46:45 PM
Quote from: TJ on April 01, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
What about his awful tenure at UCLA makes people think he would be a good coach?  Sure he's a fine announcer - when has that ever been indicative of coaching/recruiting skills.

I'm not sure I'd describe five Sweet 16s in seven years as "awful." Yeah, he never lived up to UCLA's expectations, but failing to meet exceptionally lofty expecations and awful aren't synonymous.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 08:48:34 PM
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on April 01, 2008, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 07:51:13 PM
Mark Few.

he will never leave Gonzaga....

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: drewm88 on April 01, 2008, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: mudimitri on April 01, 2008, 08:34:48 PM
2 things- as much as i love bilas and lavin as analysts, they would both be a coaching risk, even though jay is the crap

also, bennett is boring?? ok you know who else is- ben howland- and you know what hes done?? 3 straight final 4's

now im not saying bennett is howland, or that he could ever get MU to 3 straight final 4's, all im saying is that we shouldnt be complaining about boring if it leads to great results

youre only boring to others that are watching you win

I'm not pulling for Bilas. I think he could make an excellent coach, but I don't want to test that at MU. As for Bennett being boring, it's my short list. I wouldn't be pissed, but it's my list and my opinion. Howland, IMO, plays a faster paced more exciting version of Bennett ball.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: ErickJD08 on April 01, 2008, 09:00:00 PM
BRUCE WEBER! Lets hope his recruits come over to MU AND he is quite good at coaching other coach's players!

Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Daniel on April 01, 2008, 10:05:46 PM
Let's give Rick Pitino a call.  Maybe if we pay him $20 mil a year and move Marquette to Kentucky he'd consider?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: TJ on April 01, 2008, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on April 01, 2008, 08:46:45 PM
Quote from: TJ on April 01, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
What about his awful tenure at UCLA makes people think he would be a good coach?  Sure he's a fine announcer - when has that ever been indicative of coaching/recruiting skills.

I'm not sure I'd describe five Sweet 16s in seven years as "awful." Yeah, he never lived up to UCLA's expectations, but failing to meet exceptionally lofty expecations and awful aren't synonymous.

I can't see him possibly repeating even that at another school.  A sweet 16 at UCLA is like at best a first round win at other schools.  With all the power and tools UCLA possesses in the basketball world on the west coast, that is understandably unacceptable.  Look how much better Howland did in just 5 seasons.  In 3 he was already in a FF that Lavin never sniffed.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Mayor McCheese on April 01, 2008, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 08:48:34 PM
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on April 01, 2008, 07:57:21 PM
Quote from: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 07:51:13 PM
Mark Few.

he will never leave Gonzaga....

Why do you say that?

he has said it in many press conferences, if he would have left, he would have been scooped up a long time ago.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: nyg on April 02, 2008, 08:25:32 AM
http://kuathletics.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/dooley_joe00.html

Here's the new "hot assistant".  Joe Dooley from Kansas.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 08:44:57 AM
I love how they give him credit for chalmers whose dad is also an assistant at Kansas
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: dwaderoy2004 on April 02, 2008, 09:02:23 AM
BRING BACK TODD TOWNSEND!

ok kidding, but anyone think kowalczyk could be an option.  I think it's a terrible option, personally, but I bet the name comes up...
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: OHPanther on April 02, 2008, 09:12:01 AM

Sean Miller would be a good transition, but if anything happens to Dixon, Miller's ties to Pitt are strong.

Mark Few? No ties to recruiting in the Midwest but a great coach....BE would be a nice step up and would empower him to reach the next level.

Sean Sutton may be the closest thing to TC when he was hired. 

....I wonder if Coach Crean woke up today and said, "What was I thinking?" I can't believe that he is leaving the MU family.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: TJ on April 02, 2008, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 08:44:57 AM
I love how they give him credit for chalmers whose dad is also an assistant at Kansas
Chalmers was recruited and committed to Kansas before his father was hired as KU's director of basketball operations in June 2005.  His freshman year was 05-06.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: DAtruth on April 02, 2008, 09:41:26 AM
everyone that talks/interviews b knight all come out saying ,they dont think he's done coaching...we can give good $$, top of the line facilities and relative control..(new a.d..) all things he had at iu and not at texas tech

lowry of siu...martelli of st joes seem to b the most realistic fit..i think they would b able to recruit the best from the time they were hired 3 yrs down the road..

as an outsider... i seen it on here before but the hurley that coached t taylor ...that h.s. has won 25 new jersey state championships im not sure on the numbers but id say he has most of them..maybe he is looking to make a jump to the college game and uses t taylor as bait? i did notice the "we" in talking about possible dismissal from letter of intent??
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Marquette Gyros on April 02, 2008, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: DAtruth on April 02, 2008, 09:41:26 AM
as an outsider... i seen it on here before but the hurley that coached t taylor ...that h.s. has won 25 new jersey state championships im not sure on the numbers but id say he has most of them..maybe he is looking to make a jump to the college game and uses t taylor as bait? i did notice the "we" in talking about possible dismissal from letter of intent??

Never.
http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-St-Anthony-Basketballs-Improbable/dp/1592401023 (http://www.amazon.com/Miracle-St-Anthony-Basketballs-Improbable/dp/1592401023)


Count me in for the Bilas idea.  Instant credibility, high national profile, brilliant, energetic and without an AARP card. 
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 02, 2008, 09:48:37 AM
I'm not married to the idea as he has not been wildly succesful, but I have to admit I'm kinda feelin' Brian Gregory. His progression at Dayton has been similar to Crean's...some early success, followed by a couple down years, but they are back on the upswing. Beyond that I think his experience makes him somewhat of a natural fit...he has worked for Jud Heathcoat, Kevin O'Neill, and Tom Izzo...my hope would be that he could sort of bring the best of what O'Neill, Dean, and Crean gave us given that history. Safe to assume he will bring a defensive mentality (all 3), good knowledge of X's and O's matchups(heathcoat/Deane), tireless work and recruiting (Izzo/Crean), etc. Makes a lot of sense to me.

Guys like Miller, Pearl, Bennett, etc. would certainly bring a better resume, and perhaps be safer picks, but I'm not sure I guy like Gregory wouldn't be a better fit (who am I kidding, Bennett is a natural fit, and I'd be ok with that). The question would be if he could translate the upgrade in conference, recent success, etc. into more success for MU on the court. I would suggest if he can recruit to Dayton, he can rtecruit to MU. Its all relative. I would suggest that the jump from Dayton to MU is comparable to the jump from MU to IU. That said, if Crean doesn't ultimately deliver better results there than he did here, he will be out on his a**. If IU is assuming Crean can upgrade his success by making the move, isn't is safe to assume Gregory might be able to do the same by upgrading to MU?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: The Man in Gold on April 02, 2008, 09:54:20 AM
Larry Eustachy or Isiah Thomas?  :D


Other dark horse contenders I'd like to see considered...
Matt Painter (Purdue)
Danny Manning (KU Assistant)
Keno Davis (Drake)
Sean Sutton (unemployed)
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: spiral97 on April 02, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
Bull's coach Jim Boylan has been mentioned in the media.. he was even asked about it... interesting.. and not sure if in a good or bad way.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Pakuni on April 02, 2008, 10:03:53 AM
Quote from: spiral97 on April 02, 2008, 09:55:19 AM
Bull's coach Jim Boylan has been mentioned in the media.. he was even asked about it... interesting.. and not sure if in a good or bad way.

:P

If MU wants to hire a former Bulls head coach (and Boylan will be that in a few weeks), then Skiles should be the man. No idea if the guy can recruit, but his task master approach probably would play better with college kids than it has in the NBA.
The downside of him, though, would be that he'd probably bail at the first opportunity for another gig in the pros.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: ohannigan on April 02, 2008, 12:11:29 PM
Quote from: MarqGold17 on April 01, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
How about Jay Bilas...Guy knows his stuff and runs one of the best summer camps every year, not to mention a small stint as a Duke asst. I know its not very practical, but can you imagine him as our coach. Interesting. Sink your teeth into it. Besides he's the one analyst who actually knows what he's talking about. I think he would make a decent coach, and would give us the name splash we so desire.

Since we're diving into the media world, I'm fascinated by the idea of Jim McIlvaine.  Sure, he's of a "different" caliber, but J Mac loves his MU BBall and knows a thing or 2 about the game (and just as importantly, people).  Odds are someone a bit more seasoned will get the job.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MilTown on April 02, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Freeway! He has paid his dues and is ready to be a big time coach.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: augoman on April 02, 2008, 12:35:59 PM
all reports say that Crean was the 3rd choice behind Tony Bennet (said "no thankyou") and Sean Miller (contract buy out way too high).  That being said, I guess we can eliminate them from our lists.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 02, 2008, 12:44:00 PM
Not so fast.  The MU job is a lot more attractive to some people in a lot of ways than the IU job.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: ZiggysChestHair on April 02, 2008, 01:11:53 PM
Norman Dale.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: muhoosier260 on April 02, 2008, 01:15:48 PM
i apologize if someone already said this name, but Steve Alford?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: spiral97 on April 02, 2008, 03:09:51 PM
Is Murf available?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mugoose on April 02, 2008, 03:14:25 PM
is Alford any good?

Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: HomeCourtAdvantage on April 02, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
New Short List - 1 Name

John Calipari from Memphis. 

Get him into the Big East - most of his high talent is gone, Rose jets for the NBA, along with Douglas-Roberts and Dorsey.  We have more positives to offer a head coach than most programs out there, we should roll the dice and try to land a whale.

Get Calipari to visit the campus, show him the Al McGuire Center - show him a map of how close we are to Chicago (Recruiting) :) and I think we could consider him a prospect. 

So what if he's got a long tenure with Memphis - Crean had the same thing.  I think Cottingham put it well in the Press Conference - if you have a great coach, you have to be prepared to lose him.

"Calipari doesn't want to go to Milwaukee...." - That's BS.  Who would rather go to Memphis?  They're both pretty similar in caliber.

Who's more likely to follow their Coach to a new program?  Crean's crew or Calipari's studs?  Again, I think Calipari.

Also, Calipari is an East Coaster - I think he'd love to be in the Big East and compete against the Coast.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: muwarrior87 on April 02, 2008, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: HomeCourtAdvantage on April 02, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
New Short List - 1 Name

John Calipari from Memphis. 

Get him into the Big East - most of his high talent is gone, Rose jets for the NBA, along with Douglas-Roberts and Dorsey.  We have more positives to offer a head coach than most programs out there, we should roll the dice and try to land a whale.

Get Calipari to visit the campus, show him the Al McGuire Center - show him a map of how close we are to Chicago (Recruiting) :) and I think we could consider him a prospect. 

So what if he's got a long tenure with Memphis - Crean had the same thing.  I think Cottingham put it well in the Press Conference - if you have a great coach, you have to be prepared to lose him.

HELL NO!! Calipari is not the fit for this program. he does NOT graduate players which is one thing that Cottingham outlined in the press conference.  He wants someone who will keep our student athletes graduating.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: HomeCourtAdvantage on April 02, 2008, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: muwarrior87 on April 02, 2008, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: HomeCourtAdvantage on April 02, 2008, 04:05:48 PM
New Short List - 1 Name

John Calipari from Memphis. 

Get him into the Big East - most of his high talent is gone, Rose jets for the NBA, along with Douglas-Roberts and Dorsey.  We have more positives to offer a head coach than most programs out there, we should roll the dice and try to land a whale.

Get Calipari to visit the campus, show him the Al McGuire Center - show him a map of how close we are to Chicago (Recruiting) :) and I think we could consider him a prospect. 

So what if he's got a long tenure with Memphis - Crean had the same thing.  I think Cottingham put it well in the Press Conference - if you have a great coach, you have to be prepared to lose him.

HELL NO!! Calipari is not the fit for this program. he does NOT graduate players which is one thing that Cottingham outlined in the press conference.  He wants someone who will keep our student athletes graduating.

When your players are good enough to go Pro after their 1st or 2nd year, of course Graduating % is going to dwindle. 
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on April 02, 2008, 04:16:25 PM
Quote from: MilTown on April 02, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Freeway! He has paid his dues and is ready to be a big time coach.

HAHAHAHAHA

Probably the funniest thing I've read in a while.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MARQKC on April 02, 2008, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: OHPanther on April 02, 2008, 09:12:01 AM
....I wonder if Coach Crean woke up today and said, "What was I thinking?" I can't believe that he is leaving the MU family.


Maybe he'll pull a Dana Altman and change his mind tomorrow. I doubt it, though.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: spiral97 on April 02, 2008, 04:21:01 PM
Quote from: MUMotivAsian on April 02, 2008, 04:16:25 PM
Quote from: MilTown on April 02, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Freeway! He has paid his dues and is ready to be a big time coach.

HAHAHAHAHA

Probably the funniest thing I've read in a while.

"You show no class."
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: muwarrior87 on April 02, 2008, 04:21:43 PM
Memphis is not putting every single one of their players in the NBA. They have had seniors and those seniors have not graduated.  He does not put an emphasis on academics which is something that MU values.  We are not UNC or Memphis or Tennessee.  Those schools, while having people leave early, also can't consistently graduate their 4 year players.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: bs4173 on April 02, 2008, 04:23:04 PM
if not Freeway, then definitely Rick Smith (aka the jump-around guy) for coach.

He clearly loves MU/MU bball, runs a very successful company, always wears ties to the BC, and God knows he's the only middle-aged man who can bounce and spaz out as much as TC during games. only difference is that 100% of MU fans like Smith.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: mugoose on April 02, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
Calipari, like me, hates Tom Crean. There is no way he will follow in his footprints as Tommy boy goes onto bigger programs. Plus he rules Conf USA - why leave? He still gets his #1 seed and cusa title
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MarquetteVol on April 02, 2008, 05:04:48 PM
I thought Crean and Cal were actually buddies.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: TJ on April 02, 2008, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 08:44:57 AM
I love how they give him credit for chalmers whose dad is also an assistant at Kansas
Chalmers was recruited and committed to Kansas before his father was hired as KU's director of basketball operations in June 2005.  His freshman year was 05-06.

That is an amazing coincidence
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: TheManInGold on April 02, 2008, 09:54:20 AM
Larry Eustachy or Isiah Thomas?  :D


Other dark horse contenders I'd like to see considered...
Matt Painter (Purdue)
Danny Manning (KU Assistant)
Keno Davis (Drake)
Sean Sutton (unemployed)

Danny Manning has been an assistant (4th or 5th assistant) for one year  Might help with BIG s though
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: TJ on April 02, 2008, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: TJ on April 02, 2008, 09:26:20 AM
Quote from: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 08:44:57 AM
I love how they give him credit for chalmers whose dad is also an assistant at Kansas
Chalmers was recruited and committed to Kansas before his father was hired as KU's director of basketball operations in June 2005.  His freshman year was 05-06.

That is an amazing coincidence
Hey, I'm just saying his dad didn't recruit him and the assistant who was given credit for it probably did.  I have no comment or opinion beyond that.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on April 02, 2008, 06:33:42 PM
Where's he been, anyways?  We could definitely use Freeway's help with this.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MR.HAYWARD on April 02, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
Majerous

Knight

Miller



HOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Larry Brown?

Doc Rivers?
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: drewm88 on April 02, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 02, 2008, 08:20:58 PM
Larry Brown?

Doc Rivers?

No thank you. I think they're too removed (especially Brown) to be effective recruiters. Also, the college game is way different from the NBA game. These are kids, not employees.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 02, 2008, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: mugoose on April 02, 2008, 04:26:48 PM
Calipari, like me, hates Tom Crean. There is no way he will follow in his footprints as Tommy boy goes onto bigger programs. Plus he rules Conf USA - why leave? He still gets his #1 seed and cusa title

Cal and Crean are actually pretty tight.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: NCAARules on April 02, 2008, 09:37:58 PM
My darkhorse is Scott Drew at Baylor. Has absolutely resurrected that program -

Known as a high-energy guy, tireless work ethic - but a creative recruiter.

My question is - is he high-profile enough?

(FWIW - I also think Buzz and Sean Miller would be great options)
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: MUSF on April 02, 2008, 09:48:36 PM
Quote from: NCAARules on April 02, 2008, 09:37:58 PM
My darkhorse is Scott Drew at Baylor. Has absolutely resurrected that program -

Known as a high-energy guy, tireless work ethic - but a creative recruiter.

My question is - is he high-profile enough?

(FWIW - I also think Buzz and Sean Miller would be great options)

Agreed. I'd take Scott Drew in a heartbeat. I don't care if he isn't high profile enough. Getting anyone to go play at Baylor after their issues is amazing.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 03, 2008, 08:42:55 AM
Vitale says Pete Gillen
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 03, 2008, 09:37:15 AM
Vitale says Pete Gillen because he doesn't have a job.  Vitale refused to comment on any coaches who are currently employed.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: HelixAir6 on April 03, 2008, 09:38:41 AM
Not necessarily on "my short list" but I heard John Groce mentioned on the radio yesterday.  He's an assistant, and I know thats not ideal, but he an associate head coach under Matta, and supposedly is a great recruiter.  His bio from ohio state shows that he has had some success. and he is young.  Just thought I would throw him out there since he is another name that I heard:

http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=87806&SPID=10421&DB_OEM_ID=17300&ATCLID=1057552&Q_SEASON=2007
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: Strokin 3s on April 03, 2008, 10:06:41 AM
I am thowing my support behind Anthony Grant for new coach of MU hoops.  The more I read about him the more excited I get.  Then I start thinking about the style of ball they play at VCU and how you always see their scores in the 100's, now granted some of that has to do with the competition, but you aren't getting to 100 without some tempo.  Last time I checked some of those guys he recruited down at Florida turned out to be pretty damn good too.
Title: Re: Who is on your "short list" ?
Post by: CAINMUTINY on April 03, 2008, 11:56:23 AM
Travis Ford of Umass.... The guy is a flat out great bench coach and I love what he told his players during a time out versus Syracuse. The team was down 22 at one point and cut the lead to 11, and his message was "We've got em right where we want em"; You have to love a coach with such moxie.
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