NY Post preview:
https://nypost.com/2024/03/13/sports/big-east-tournament-at-msg-has-storylines-galore/
Hoping Depaul can pull the upset.
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 13, 2024, 10:38:10 AM
Hoping Depaul can pull the upset.
And I'm hoping to win the lottery. My chances are much better.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 13, 2024, 11:08:16 AM
And I'm hoping to win the lottery. My chances are much better.
Don't forget to remember MUScoop in your estate planning.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 13, 2024, 11:18:38 AM
Don't forget to remember MUScoop in your estate planning.
Oh, I will. And you too Rocky, for giving me a discount on my Scoop dues. That was very nice of you.
Kolek is out for game 1
Posh Alexander. Ouch. But he is up on his feet.
A Xavier win helps the Big East Cause
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1985/08/04/with-mixed-emotions-staak-leaves-xavier-for-wake-forest-job/38a24684-ebf4-4093-afd6-a1ba4bea946f/
Butler is such a poorly coached team
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1768019350877794666
Good crap
That is SWEET!
I know I've said this before but as a former boxer it ridiculous how many basketball players have some type of infatuation with it. I know Kam has a ton of interest but man it doesn't overlap at all.
Also fun fact I used to box at that gym and MU's two pro boxer alumni also came out of there.
Kolek is out for game 1
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 13, 2024, 04:45:01 PM
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1768019350877794666
Good crap
That is a hype video. Lost in the fight. We. Are. Marquette!
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 13, 2024, 05:08:43 PM
Thanks for the breaking news
(https://y.yarn.co/9146cd29-e00e-4c4c-873a-3e0a24a2f240_text.gif)
Quote from: tower912 on March 13, 2024, 05:09:35 PM
Hausers are transferring.
Al McGuire set to retire after the tournament.
Xavier beats Butler. Butler's lack of discipline did them in
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 13, 2024, 04:45:01 PM
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1768019350877794666
Good crap
Ugh. Both of Kam's wrists are taped. This team can't buy a break.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 13, 2024, 05:37:06 PM
Ugh. Both of Kam's wrists are taped. This team can't buy a break.
If he got more NIL cash flow he could
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 13, 2024, 05:37:06 PM
Ugh. Both of Kam's wrists are taped. This team can't buy a break.
thats why they are only taped up.
Hes ready!
Georgetown is both a bad team and a poorly coached team
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 05:59:42 PM
Georgetown is both a bad team and a poorly coached team
Their putridness is incalculable as is DePaul's ineptitude. Get rid of them. :)
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 05:59:42 PM
Georgetown is both a bad team and a poorly coached team
Cooley & Co has always been overrated.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 04:41:47 PM
Butler is such a poorly coached team
True
most of the time. But then....@ Creighton, @ Marquette
Ouch!
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 05:59:42 PM
Georgetown is both a bad team and a poorly coached team
Agree with Sultan about Cooley.
18 years as a D1 head coach, 1 second weekend, 3 total NCAAT wins, 2 conference titles.
He's been OK. Not bad, but certainly no evidence of greatness.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 13, 2024, 05:37:06 PM
Ugh. Both of Kam's wrists are taped. This team can't buy a break.
Sweet Jesus.
Asian Carp. Muggsy, relax.
Ed Cooley stole a lot of money this year
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 08:02:12 PM
Ed Cooley stole a lot of money this year
So did Patrick Ewing
The Hoyas were 4/19 from the free throw line?
That is bad enough to matta.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 13, 2024, 08:19:05 PM
The Hoyas were 4/19 from the free throw line?
Seriously? That's hard to do.
These DePaul kids have to have a sense of relief knowing they don't have to do this anymore after tonight
Quote from: Carl on March 13, 2024, 08:32:00 PM
These DePaul kids have to have a sense of relief knowing they don't have to do this anymore after tonight
DePaul has no business being a D-1 program.
Nova and DePaul putting on a basketball clinic
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 08:02:12 PM
Ed Cooley stole a lot of money this year
Trying to steal conference players for next:
https://twitter.com/ryancassidycbb/status/1768085297315655975?t=wQJprh6t2E8tQIIT8y9FjA&s=19
I turned on the Big East Tournament, and Wisconsin is playing Virginia???
Any news on Kolek's availability for tomorrow night?
Dominic James has been cleared.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 05:59:42 PM
Georgetown is both a bad team and a poorly coached team
He's still rich & gettin madd b1tches
Neptune may not last long.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:08:12 PM
Neptune may not last long.
The planets are aligning
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 13, 2024, 09:10:07 PM
The planets are aligning
April 8th is an enormous evening. They should move the F4 to Indy.
Raft, Brando, most of us, and the crowd in the garden are all hoping Depaul can hang here and not be down 20 by second media timeout.
DePaul leading with about 16 mins to go hasn't happened for some time.
Depauls issue is they suck so bad they can only be barely leading when the opposition is having their worst game of the year.
If Depaul could hit any open shots theyd be up comfortably with how bad Nova looks
First to 40 wins
Shaping up to be another Chaminade over Virginia ... except Chaminade was a lot better than this DePaul team.
Neptune will be gone if they lose this game. Book it. And DePaul winning doesn't help us.
Neptune coaches like Uranus.
Nova shooting 3s every possession 10 seconds into the clock is quite the decision.
Lucky for them Depaul back to adaptive basketball on the other end every time they drive
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:43:59 PM
Neptune will be gone if they lose this game. Book it. And DePaul winning doesn't help us.
Huh? Why wouldn't you want to see DePaul tomorrow?
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 13, 2024, 09:48:01 PM
Huh? Why wouldn't you want to see DePaul tomorrow?
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
If we lose to DP we might as well just throw in the towel
Since going up 8 they have missed like 5 straight layups/drives haha
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
I mean...
To Depaul's credit, they're getting layups by following their airballs pretty well.
This team is so bad lol
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
If they lost to DePaul I'd be over it in about 2 seconds. Will have no effect on next Thurs/Fri when it counts.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 13, 2024, 09:50:53 PM
If we lose to DP we might as well just throw in the towel
Nova beat UNC. Crazy things can happen. I expect them to win this game but I'd rather not have any risk of losing to a pile of crap.
This could be Neptune's last game with Nova if they lose. This would be inexcusable for them.
2 wide open 3s, nah dont shoot it. Instead do a spin move in the lane and throw a wild lob up at the rim
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
Stop
It
Muggs
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
What in the world Muggsy?
Dixon just slid about 5 yards before some random player called TO there
Neptune is gripping right now to put it mildly.
This is pretty nuts.
This is amazing. Having to win 3 games in 3 days becomes significantly easier if the first game is against DePaul
Quote from: Carl on March 13, 2024, 10:15:00 PM
This is amazing. Having to win 3 games in 3 days becomes significantly easier if the first game is against DePaul
sleeping giant no more??
Terry needed to pull it sooner from deep or keep driving. Gave him too much time to catch up
Out of a time out the kid doesnt realize he needs to uhh....shoot it?
Haha Neptune is such an idiot man.
DePaul had 2s so all he had to do during last TO is setup an offensive play so he can save his TO in an emergency and he wastes the last timeout.
What if they can't get it in or run into trouble here?
It's DePaul, It's DePaul!
Now we have to deal with a hungry Nova coming off this massive win 😂
Hahahaha
that is such a classic way for them to lose
Such a DePaul way to lose that game! Their last offensive possession before Nova scored was awful.
Congrats to Muggs, the one Marquette fan who preferred to play Nova tomorrow night.
Man, not getting a chance to use that foul to give...
Ugh, it just sucks to be a DePaul fan,
Nova got their clunker out of their system.
Quote from: Norm on March 13, 2024, 10:22:43 PM
Ugh, it just sucks to be a the DePaul fan,
fixed
Fun game. Huge shot. Neptune is a deer in the headlights though.
Nova reminds me a lot of the Wojo Marquette program right now.
Thank the Lord we don't have to play DePaul!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 09:49:12 PM
Because of the very, very, remote chance they beat us.
I guess I would have preferred taking my chances on the very, very remote chance that MU would have lost to DePaul over the very real chance that they lose to Villanova.
Quote from: wisblue on March 13, 2024, 10:26:43 PM
I guess I would have preferred taking my chances on the very, very remote chance that MU would have lost to DePaul over the very real chance that they lose to Villanova.
I completely disagree.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:27:37 PM
I completely disagree.
I don't understand your logic.
You harp on Nova being wildly inconsistent, which suggests that they could come out draining threes from all over tomorrow,
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:27:37 PM
I completely disagree.
Bizarre take beyond human comprehension
Muggs take the L
What exactly do we gain from beating DePaul?
Well, now we get a shot at another quad 1 win instead of a quad 4 win.
The right to play in the semi final?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:31:50 PM
What exactly do we gain from beating DePaul?
A win and an advance to the semifinals.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:31:50 PM
What exactly do we gain from beating DePaul?
You want to play DePaul because they're easier to beat to get to the semi finals, yes?
Quote from: wisblue on March 13, 2024, 10:34:16 PM
A win and an advance to the semifinals.
Villanova is #32 NET. If you're simply looking at getting to the SF of the BET? That's fair. But from a Macro/Season perspective we gain absolutely nothing from playing DePaul.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 13, 2024, 10:22:28 PM
Man, not getting a chance to use that foul to give...
Or their remaining time outs after the made.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:36:41 PM
Villanova is #32 NET. If you're simply looking at getting to the SF of the BET? That's fair. But from a Macro/Season perspective we gain absolutely nothing from playing DePaul.
I'm not sure. Think it would have been a good simulation of playing a 14/15 seed in that environment with the crowd against us.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:36:41 PM
Villanova is #32 NET. If you're simply looking at getting to the SF of the BET? That's fair. But from a Macro/Season perspective we gain absolutely nothing from playing DePaul.
It's the postseason. There is no macro or season perspective anymore. It's survive and advance time.
If you think a win over DePaul in the BET would adversely affect MU's NCAA seeding I think you are wrong.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 13, 2024, 10:42:46 PM
I'm not sure. Think it would have been a good simulation of playing a 14/15 seed in that environment with the crowd against us.
They're significantly worse than a 14/15 seed CR. We're talking about a team that's won 3 games and is a complete dumpster fire. Maybe it's me but I'd rather play a team that is competing for an NCAA bid.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:46:36 PM
They're significantly worse than a 14/15 seed CR. We're talking about a team that's won 3 games and is a complete dumpster fire. Maybe it's me but I'd rather play a team that is competing for an NCAA bid.
It's you.
Quote from: wisblue on March 13, 2024, 10:43:52 PM
It's the postseason. There is no macro or season perspective anymore. It's survive and advance time.
If you think a win over DePaul in the BET would adversely affect MU's NCAA seeding I think you are wrong.
I didn't say that. A win over them means nothing is my basic point. Just as a loss vs Nova or Creighton means nothing as far as seeding. But a loss to DePaul would be a disaster. This is where I stand.
Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2024, 10:49:07 PM
It's you.
Not to defend Muggsy, but I get his point. 4 possible outcomes for MU going in to tonight: 1) beat depaul - does nothing; 2) lose to depaul - quad 4 loss, worst of the season, likely off the 2 seed line; 3) beat nova - quad 1 win; 4) lose to nova - quad 1 loss.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:31:50 PM
What exactly do we gain from beating DePaul?
Another game.
We don't really gain anything from beating Nova either in all likelihood at this point.
Another point in favor of playing DePaul would be that it increases the chance that MU could have an easy win where they could spread the minutes around.
They are playing shorthanded as it is, so expending a lot of energy on Thursday night might take a toll in a game against Providence or Creighton Friday night.
Creighton getting farther in the tournament is more likely to affect MUs seed and first weekend location than whether they play DePaul or Nova tomorrow night.
Quote from: wisblue on March 13, 2024, 11:15:51 PM
Another point in favor of playing DePaul would be that it increases the chance that MU could have an easy win where they could spread the minutes around.
They are playing shorthanded as it is, so expending a lot of energy on Thursday night might take a toll in a game against Providence or Creighton Friday night.
Creighton getting farther in the tournament is more likely to affect MUs seed and first weekend location than whether they play DePaul or Nova tomorrow night.
I think it's a debatable conversation.
The Muscoop doom and gloom about playing a Villanova team who just went to a final possession against 0-20 Depaul.
Guys relax.
Speaking on behalf of the many Marquette fans currently or soon to be in NYC and would like to see Marquette go as far as it can in the BET, yes we would rather play DePaul. Screw your macro.
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 13, 2024, 11:37:59 PM
Speaking on behalf of the many Marquette fans currently or soon to be in NYC and would like to see Marquette go as far as it can in the BET, yes we would rather play DePaul. Screw your macro.
Okay. I get the MU fans at MSG want to see us advance. But why then would you be concerned about a team who needed a triple in the last 10 secs to beat a 3 win DePaul team?
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 13, 2024, 11:33:27 PM
The Muscoop doom and gloom about playing a Villanova team who just went to a final possession against 0-20 Depaul.
Guys relax.
Pants Pissing is the new COLE....
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 11:22:10 PM
I think it's a debatable conversation.
It's scoop. Everything is a debatable conversation.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 13, 2024, 11:33:27 PM
The Muscoop doom and gloom about playing a Villanova team who just went to a final possession against 0-20 Depaul.
Guys relax.
It's not doom and gloom because everybody assumed that Villanova would be the first opponent.
But anyone who thinks that a shorthanded MU team wouldn't have a better chance of beating DePaul than Villanova is simply ignorant.
Thanks, DePaul. Now, my Big East bracket is in shambles.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:51:13 PM
I didn't say that. A win over them means nothing is my basic point. Just as a loss vs Nova or Creighton means nothing as far as seeding. But a loss to DePaul would be a disaster. This is where I stand.
right on Muggs!! remember who your audience is. scoop unfortunately doesn't have the capability for us to draw pictures...hey, maybe a request is in order
Best day at the Garden. Fun and important games other than UConn/X
St. John's-Seton Hall previews:
https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2024/3/13/24097933/st-johns-vs-seton-hall-mens-basketball-preview-and-game-thread
https://stormthepaint.com/posts/st-johns-embracing-pressure-heading-must-win-game-against-seton-hall
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:51:13 PM
I didn't say that. A win over them means nothing is my basic point. Just as a loss vs Nova or Creighton means nothing as far as seeding. But a loss to DePaul would be a disaster. This is where I stand.
1. That's quite the loser's mentality.
2. It wouldn't be a "disaster."
3. DePaul would be the easier path to the semis.
4. Seeding is set - it will be a 2 or 3. Not a significant difference between the two.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 07:57:35 AM
St. John's-Seton Hall previews:
https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2024/3/13/24097933/st-johns-vs-seton-hall-mens-basketball-preview-and-game-thread
https://stormthepaint.com/posts/st-johns-embracing-pressure-heading-must-win-game-against-seton-hall
Wait, where's the NYPost article?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 14, 2024, 07:57:50 AM
1. That's quite the loser's mentality.
2. It wouldn't be a "disaster."
3. DePaul would be the easier path to the semis.
4. Seeding is set - it will be a 2 or 3. Not a significant difference between the two.
Dammit Sultan! You and wisblue have simply GOT to stop it with your rational posts.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 14, 2024, 08:07:36 AM
Dammit Sultan! You and wisblue have simply GOT to stop it with your rational posts.
Imagine thinking "I don't want to play this De Paul team because we might lose to them."
WTF kind of attitude is that?
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 14, 2024, 08:15:41 AM
Imagine thinking "I don't want to play this De Paul team because we might lose to them."
WTF kind of attitude is that?
Considering the source....are you surprised?
I'm one of the oldest scoopers, so perhaps it has been decades since Marquette required freshmen to take Logic 101.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 14, 2024, 08:07:12 AM
Wait, where's the NYPost article?
I like to share smart links
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 14, 2024, 08:24:50 AM
Considering the source....are you surprised?
I'm one of the oldest scoopers, so perhaps it has been decades since Marquette required freshmen to take Logic 101.
Foundational Logic is assumed to be taught through geometry math proofs in high schools. Personally I think Logic should be an HS requirement
We gain nothing with regards to the NCAA tournament by playing DePaul. Nothing to gain and everything to lose. Now, you can create this "why would we be scared of DePaul" narrative, and whistle dixie until the end of time, but that doesn't change basic facts.
We're now playing a tean who needed a game winning shot to beat them, with their tournament hopes on the line, at full strength. We're competing in tbe BET without our best player and every team is capable of crapping the bed. My contention is our NCAA seeding is far more important than making the BET SF. A loss to Nova will make little impact whereas a debacle loss to DePaul would be a Q4 loss and could drop us to a 4. Lastly, I fully expect our intensity and drive to be their this evening vs a game with a dumpster fire program with 3 wins.
FWIW, I can squint hard enough to see what Muggs is getting at. It sucks that in the BEast you can even encounter the possibility of a Q4 loss in the conference tournament. If you contextualize this week as a tune up for the NCAAT, and largely let the ship sail on getting big minutes from TK, you can get to a place where the increased odds of losing to Nova are the lesser of two evils vs an increased injury chance vs DePaul just to get to a game that hurts you less to lose.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 09:15:13 AM
We gain nothing with regards to the NCAA tournament by playing DePaul. Nothing to gain and everything to lose. Now, you can create this "why would we be scared of DePaul" narrative, and whistle dixie until the end of time, but that doesn't change basic facts.
We're now playing a tean who needed a game winning shot to beat them, with their tournament hopes on the line, at full strength. We're competing in tbe BET without our best player and every team is capable of crapping the bed. My contention is our NCAA seeding is far more important than making the BET SF. A loss to Nova will make little impact whereas a debacle loss to DePaul woukd be a Q4 loss and could drop us to a 4. Lastly, I fully expect our intensity and drive to be their this evening vs a game with a dumpster fire program with 3 wins.
In no scenario would we have ever dropped to the four line.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 14, 2024, 09:19:08 AM
In no scenario would we have ever dropped to the four line.
I don't think anyone knows that.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 14, 2024, 08:58:23 AM
Foundational Logic is assumed to be taught through geometry math proofs in high schools. Personally I think Logic should be an HS requirement
Finance should be required.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 09:20:46 AM
I don't think anyone knows that.
We wouldn't go down two seed lines for a single loss in a conference tournament.
Doesn't happen.
Is muggs still in full meltdown mode?
If you're scared that depaul might beat marquette, we might as well pack it up and move now. We're not making the final four if depaul might beat us.
We're also still way better then nova. Even without kolek. Yall gotta take your Xanax.
Quote from: #UnleashSean on March 14, 2024, 09:32:26 AM
Is muggs still in full meltdown mode?
If you're scared that depaul might beat marquette, we might as well pack it up and move now. We're not making the final four if depaul might beat us.
We're also still way better then nova. Even without kolek. Yall gotta take your Xanax.
Why are you attacking him? :)
Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here. Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:
When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z because it's an autowin? Could it be ummm.....never?? I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.
Gimme the easy game where, more than likely, the starters play less minutes so they're fresher for Creighton.
The fact that this is still being talked about is peak scoop.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 09:47:33 AM
Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here. Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:
When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z because it's an autowin? Could it be ummm.....never?? I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.
Huh??? I'll take auto wins all year
You saying if it's DePaul for the natty or UConn you want Hurley and Co?
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 09:47:33 AM
Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here. Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:
When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z because it's an autowin? Could it be ummm.....never?? I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.
Move on, MU is not playing Depaul, it's over. You rely upon too much speculation and nerves all the time.
Consensus is an MU loss tonight and probably a 3 seed in NCAAT. Rest for the team for next week. Win tonight, along with Creighton and the #2 seed game is tomorrow night. The only wrench is if Providence beats CU. Thats it, move on with your Depaul theories.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 09:47:33 AM
Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here. Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:
When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z because it's an autowin? Could it be ummm.....never?? I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.
By playing DePaul you'd get the best of both worlds. A win to advance to the BET semifinals (which MU hasn't done all that often) and then a chance to play a decent (or better) team with a lot to play for, and see (again) how the team looks without Kolek. Dropping two seed lines is not happening based on anything MU does in the BET. Maybe a couple of spots on the seed LIST based on what some other teams do, but not two lines.
It wasn't that long ago that you told me "it was only two games" when I suggested that Creighton's win over UConn put them in position to possibly pass MU on the seed list if they could beat MU both at home and in the BET. Apparently you've changed your mind about how much impact one game can have.
Let muggsy process theoretical future opponents any way he wants.
Boy, the whole, "I don't care about the BET/the only thing that matters this year is the NCAAT" narrative on Scoop went out of the window QUICK when the BET started, didn't it?
Quote from: wadesworld on March 14, 2024, 10:11:29 AM
Boy, the whole, "I don't care about the BET/the only thing that matters this year is the NCAAT" narrative on Scoop went out of the window QUICK when the BET started, didn't it?
This whole site has gone nuts. Freaking out over Nova now. Our team is still very very good without Kolek. If we cant beat a sub 30 team without him, we're not winning the championship with him.
Win Anyways (unless it's depaul)
Saying "I'd rather Marquette play the worst team in Big East history instead of an NCAA bubble team with a lot of experienced players," is not the same thing as saying, "I'm afraid of Villanova." It's basic logic.
Nor is it "freaking out."
And saying, "If we can beat Creighton to wrap up the 2-seed, great, but it's not important enough to risk playing Kolek," is pretty consistent with the things many Scoopers have been saying ever since Kolek got hurt.
Nova can't beat Shaka
In the initial top 4 seed reveal Marquette was the third 2 seed. Since then they have lost to UConn twice and Creighton once and lost their floor leader to injury.
Why are we so sure they are not already a solid 3 seed despite what bracket matrix says?
So, Karaban does occasionally miss open 3 point shots.
Quote from: The Thing on March 14, 2024, 11:24:36 AM
In the initial top 4 seed reveal Marquette was the third 2 seed. Since then they have lost to UConn twice and Creighton once and lost their floor leader to injury.
Why are we so sure they are not already a solid 3 seed despite what bracket matrix says?
Because Q1A losses don't really hurt you.
Quote from: The Thing on March 14, 2024, 11:24:36 AM
In the initial top 4 seed reveal Marquette was the third 2 seed. Since then they have lost to UConn twice and Creighton once and lost their floor leader to injury.
Why are we so sure they are not already a solid 3 seed despite what bracket matrix says?
Because other teams have lost too. It's almost like MU games don't occur in a vacuum.
UConn is 2 for 12 on their 3 point shots so far.
Would have liked to have seen that last week.
Karaban and Spencer are a combined 1 for 6. More misses than they had against MU in the whole game.
UConn's version of Scoop is in complete meltdown mode.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 14, 2024, 08:58:23 AM
Foundational Logic is assumed to be taught through geometry math proofs in high schools. Personally I think Logic should be an HS requirement
And Civics.
X make it in if they make the final?
Quote from: 1SE on March 14, 2024, 12:04:00 PM
X make it in if they make the final?
No, they'll need to win the whole megillah
Seton Hall-St. John's the beginning of the important part of the day
Love the Big East's identity as a physical conference, but I think at this point it needs to be reined in to an extent. Plenty of obvious fouls not called in the early going for SHU v SJU.
Didn't see the game, but looks like UConn did UConny things in the second half.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 09:15:13 AM
We gain nothing with regards to the NCAA tournament by playing DePaul. Nothing to gain and everything to lose. Now, you can create this "why would we be scared of DePaul" narrative, and whistle dixie until the end of time, but that doesn't change basic facts.
We're now playing a tean who needed a game winning shot to beat them, with their tournament hopes on the line, at full strength. We're competing in tbe BET without our best player and every team is capable of crapping the bed. My contention is our NCAA seeding is far more important than making the BET SF. A loss to Nova will make little impact whereas a debacle loss to DePaul would be a Q4 loss and could drop us to a 4. Lastly, I fully expect our intensity and drive to be their this evening vs a game with a dumpster fire program with 3 wins.
I'm as nervous and negative as they come before games (I truly believe it comes from living and dying with the perpetually snakebit Red Sox in my formative years) but we'd have throttled DePaul and would not have needed to over-exert ourselves which would have had us in a better place for a semi-final against Creighton/Providence. We would have gained an easier path to the BET championship. Climb the ladder in front of you.
Quote from: MU82 on March 14, 2024, 02:15:25 PM
Didn't see the game, but looks like UConn did UConny things in the second half.
The Huskies mushed them.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 11:59:39 AM
UConn's version of Scoop is in complete meltdown mode.
They should have relaxed. Jumping on UConn early reminds me of Mongo from Blazing Saddles. "Oh no, don't do that, don't do that. If you shoot him, you'll just make him mad."
High quality first half from Seton Hall-St. John's
Quote from: MU82 on March 14, 2024, 02:15:25 PM
Didn't see the game, but looks like UConn did UConny things in the second half.
Muggsy relieved we won't have to face X in the final.
Those advocating for COTY for Sha may want to not turn in their ballots yet.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 14, 2024, 03:37:45 PM
Those advocating for COTY for Sha may want to not turn in their ballots yet.
Well, they would have missed the vote if they hadn't turned them in. At least if you are talking Big East.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 14, 2024, 02:52:42 PM
Muggsy relieved we won't have to face X in the final.
Lol.
I'm excited to see Hurley against Pitino in the Garden.
Watched the game from a luxury suite with David Frame and we both commented on how interesting it was Rick Pitino's rant didn't cause him to lose his team. Also interesting how his team has had the results it has had versus Ed Cooley and Georgetown. As David told me, leadership drives all when it comes to winning.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 04:38:32 PM
Watched the game from a luxury suite with David Frame and we both commented on how interesting it was Rick Pitino's rant didn't cause him to lose his team. Also interesting how his team has had the results it has had versus Ed Cooley and Georgetown. As David told me, leadership drives all when it comes to winning.
Incredible.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 14, 2024, 04:52:24 PM
Incredible.
It was a good afternoon. Closed some deals and saw two well-coached teams
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 04:56:24 PM
It was a good afternoon. Closed some deals and saw two well-coached teams
You guys go over on the butt stuff?
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 14, 2024, 05:07:31 PM
You guys go over on the butt stuff?
No, we leave that for the meat summit
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 04:56:24 PM
It was a good afternoon. Closed some deals and saw two well-coached teams
MUFINY was there and said that your body language sucked
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 14, 2024, 05:43:22 PM
MUFINY was there and said that your body language sucked
There's an after party at Paul's Casablanca. Going with Wes Edens. Should be fun.
Have to hold my nose now and root for Providence over Creighton.
Providence isn't getting the friendly calls they get when they play at home.
prov keeping Creighton in it by taking stupid shots ever since getting up 9 and proceeding to foul Creighton every time trying to rebound the miss and putting them on the line 90 feet from basket.
Quote from: wisblue on March 14, 2024, 05:56:45 PM
Have to hold my nose now and root for Providence over Creighton.
Only if I was assured that a CU loss, MU win tonight and tomorrow gives us the #2 seed.
Otherwise, I would take my chances of less probability of injury with CU....even if that is a loss.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 14, 2024, 06:54:01 PM
prov keeping Creighton in it by taking stupid shots ever since getting up 9 and proceeding to foul Creighton every time trying to rebound the miss and putting them on the line 90 feet from basket.
Providence isn't a very well coached team
Heh, halftime crew talking up the awesomeness of the two guys that went 4/11 and 3/10 from the field.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 14, 2024, 07:03:31 PM
Heh, halftime crew talking up the awesomeness of the two guys that went 4/11 and 3/10 from the field.
Both started hot then went down the tank
Creighton made 8 shots all half. Prov let them hang around. Not ideal if youre a prov fan
The amount of MU fans in attendance is staggering (in a good way).
Quote from: wisblue on March 14, 2024, 05:56:45 PM
Have to hold my nose now and root for Providence over Creighton.
I don't think I can root for them.
It looks like Creighton is getting completely outplayed to this point.
They are a very overrated team. Would've loved to have been healthy in Omaha.
Providence doing well with 14 left vs Creighton.
Up 11
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 05:21:03 PM
No, we leave that for the meat summit
You take summit, and you give summit.
I'd say Kalkbrenner is being exposed tonight but I think everyone already knows what he is at this point.
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 14, 2024, 07:14:56 PM
I don't think I can root for them.
Can you hope for Creighton to lose?
ashworth looks like a hobbit
Providence needs to play with poise.
Near blizzard for Creighton
Another stupid foul by Prov barreling into Creighton trying to O rebound and giving them free throws ont he other end.
Oduru been brutal tonight
Not a smart decision by Oduro. Kalky having a nice half.
Go Creighton. Can't f'ing stand the Dence
Providence plays offense like a dentist at medical school
lol odruo. How is that guy even on the team.
Oduru is Creightons best player
BlueJays missed FTs matta
Damn
Our path coulda been Depaul then Prov. But Muggsy mushed it begging for Nova
Man was I wrong about CR v PR.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 08:06:38 PM
BlueJays missed FTs matta
Not the right time to miss throws.
It's looking like a good tournament
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 14, 2024, 08:09:20 PM
Damn
Our path coulda been Depaul then Prov. But Muggsy mushed it begging for Nova
I didn't do anything.
The Dence screwed the Big East
Did I mention how much I can't stand them? I hope we beat Nova and then run them off the floor
Wow. Providence with huge win! Whew
Glad Creighton lost, McDermott owns Shaka
Big East might actually get 6 bids now.
They went right at the BE defensive player of the year. lol
Fun finish
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 14, 2024, 08:15:41 PM
Did I mention how much I can't stand them? I hope we beat Nova and then run them off the floor
Agreed. One of these days Oduro will mess with the wrong guy.
Ecstatic that Creighton lost. So much attitude from such a cute little MVC program. The lights are a lot brighter in NYC than they are in Omaha.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 07:56:42 PM
Providence plays offense like a dentist at medical school
lol
Carter got that Trae young hairline
Quote from: MarquetteVol on March 14, 2024, 08:19:36 PM
Ecstatic that Creighton lost. So much attitude from such a cute little MVC program. The lights are a lot brighter in NYC than they are in Omaha.
That may be a little harsh. They are a consistently good program with wins on all stages recently.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 14, 2024, 08:18:08 PM
They went right at the BE defensive player of the year. lol
Yep. "Elite" D of Creighton got 5 turnovers from Providence tonight.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 14, 2024, 08:38:04 PM
Yep. "Elite" D of Creighton got 5 turnovers from Providence tonight.
They've never turned teams over.
I sure am glad we're not playing that fine DePaul team tonight.
Providence won
We'd probably be losing by 20 to DePaul by now.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 14, 2024, 08:50:20 PM
They've never turned teams over.
Teams who play elite D get more than 5 TOs by accident.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 14, 2024, 09:25:02 PM
Providence won
Weird, I was rooting for Creighton. I liked our chances against them better than against PC without Tyler.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 14, 2024, 09:36:08 PM
Teams who play elite D get more than 5 TOs by accident.
The year Virginia won the national title, they were 250th in turnover %. UConn was 143rd last year in turnover %. Kentucky in 2012 was 299th in turnover %. Those were better defenses than Creighton but weren't great at turning teams over
So is this how it's going to go? UCONN beats everyone by 20 and everyone else scratches and claws until they hit UCONN where.....well already stated.
Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on March 14, 2024, 09:40:30 PM
So is this how it's going to go? UCONN beats everyone by 20 and everyone else scratches and claws until they hit UCONN where.....well already stated.
I want to see how St. John's does in that game. Good litmus test for them. I don't expect them to win but if they can be in it to the end, that's a lot of good progress for them
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 14, 2024, 09:36:08 PM
Teams who play elite D get more than 5 TOs by accident.
Never thought they were elite in any way. But they're good and are the worst team in the country at turning teams over. They don't play for them.
Slick Rick should break out the white suit tomorrow.
https://x.com/bensteelemjs/status/1768482171612811403?s=46&t=sotL7QsNvvOZPdWl6-_vhA
Heard there was a fight that broke out after the game near where the Marquette Boosters sit. Is that true
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 15, 2024, 12:07:48 AM
Heard there was a fight that broke out after the game near where the Marquette Boosters sit. Is that true
Oh.....boy. Hopefully no one was seriously hurt.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 15, 2024, 12:07:48 AM
Heard there was a fight that broke out after the game near where the Marquette Boosters sit. Is that true
Muggsy introduced someone to darkness.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 15, 2024, 12:07:48 AM
Heard there was a fight that broke out after the game near where the Marquette Boosters sit. Is that true
Why don't you ask Ben Steele
Preview of the Providence-Marquette game
https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2024/3/15/24101409/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-big-east-tournament-semifinals-providence-friars
St. John's previews:
https://stormthepaint.com/posts/st-johns-basketball-eyes-winning-big-east-but-uconn-toughest-challenge
https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2024/3/15/24101325/st-johns-vs-uconn-big-east-mens-basketball-tournament-semifinal-preview-and-game-thread
I am probably in the minority here seeing as there were a ton of people wanting Nova over Depaul but I will be cheering for St.Johns tonight. While I do still believe that we can beat Uconn, I would rather not face them.
Villanova preview of today's games
https://www.vuhoops.com/big-east-news/2024/3/15/24101585/2024-big-east-tournament-semifinals-preview-analysis-odds
Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 15, 2024, 07:40:29 AM
I am probably in the minority here seeing as there were a ton of people wanting Nova over Depaul but I will be cheering for St.Johns tonight. While I do still believe that we can beat Uconn, I would rather not face them.
I'm with you here. Win tonight and face St. Johns in the championship game? Works for me. It would be great if we repeated as BET champs.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 15, 2024, 07:44:09 AM
I'm with you here. Win tonight and face St. Johns in the championship game? Works for me. It would be great if we repeated as BET champs.
I hope all the teams have fun
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2024, 07:17:03 AM
Preview of the Providence-Marquette game
https://www.anonymouseagle.com/2024/3/15/24101409/marquette-golden-eagles-mens-basketball-big-east-tournament-semifinals-providence-friars
I thought you were a fan of the NY Post's college basketball coverage.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 07:54:12 AM
I thought you were a fan of the NY Post's college basketball coverage.
No. It's garbage
UConn looks at St. John's
https://www.theuconnblog.com/2024/3/15/24101456/big-east-tournament-semifinal-preview-no-2-uconn-huskies-mens-basketball-vs-st-johns-5-30-p-m-fox
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 15, 2024, 08:23:21 AM
I know - I was kidding.
I know you know. Knowing is half the battle
Still not convinced Providence is in. Especially with the A10 stealing a bid. We will see when Bracket Matrix updates, but more dominoes may have to fall for them.
(And Indiana State isn't going to make it IMO. They've racked up a lot of wins, but haven't beaten anyone of note. The only team they beat that will be in the tournament is Drake, but they also lost to them twice.)
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 08:31:59 AM
Still not convinced Providence is in. Especially with the A10 stealing a bid. We will see when Bracket Matrix updates, but more dominoes may have to fall for them.
(And Indiana State isn't going to make it IMO. They've racked up a lot of wins, but haven't beaten anyone of note. The only team they beat that will be in the tournament is Drake, but they also lost to them twice.)
A-10 isn't necessarily stealing a bid. Before their tournament, they were a 2-bid league assumimg Richmond won the tourney. Most brackets had them as the autobid with Dayton getting an at-large. If Dayton won the tourney, then, it would have been a 1-bid league. For like two hours yesterday, it was a 1-bid league.
As for Providence, I think they need tonight to few good. My hunch is, they'll get some benefit of the doubt because of the Hopkins injury. That win at Madison looms large, too.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 08:31:59 AM
Still not convinced Providence is in. Especially with the A10 stealing a bid. We will see when Bracket Matrix updates, but more dominoes may have to fall for them.
(And Indiana State isn't going to make it IMO. They've racked up a lot of wins, but haven't beaten anyone of note. The only team they beat that will be in the tournament is Drake, but they also lost to them twice.)
Yeah Prov is right on the last 4 in/first 4 out right now. Could go either way.
Beat us and they are in.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2024, 08:38:55 AM
As for Providence, I think they need tonight to few good. My hunch is, they'll get some benefit of the doubt because of the Hopkins injury. That win at Madison looms large, too.
Wouldn't any consideration surrounding Hopkins be a negative for their tourney chance/seed? It's not like he's coming back.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2024, 08:38:55 AM
A-10 isn't necessarily stealing a bid. Before their tournament, they were a 2-bid league assumimg Richmond won the tourney. Most brackets had them as the autobid with Dayton getting an at-large. If Dayton won the tourney, then, it would have been a 1-bid league. For like two hours yesterday, it was a 1-bid league.
As for Providence, I think they need tonight to few good. My hunch is, they'll get some benefit of the doubt because of the Hopkins injury. That win at Madison looms large, too.
Game was in RI
Hope Benetti is on the call
https://x.com/john_fanta/status/1768726315585180080?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2024, 02:51:40 PM
https://x.com/john_fanta/status/1768726315585180080?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q
This is good for Marquette and the Big East's cause
Wonder if a new media deal will be announced shortly as well. It seems like they would go hand in hand right?
https://x.com/cbbonfox/status/1768505390139162749?s=61&t=OiEjAG-WCPv75czhx0DwSQ
Nice locker room moment after the game. Big Balls!
Stevie after Shaka's compliments: "I can do better and I get another chance tomorrow "
He's almost too good to be true.
"We've got to put 100% of our energy in getting our rest tonight ..."
Shaka even expects the guys to deliver EGBs while sleeping!
Quote from: MU82 on March 15, 2024, 03:56:09 PM
"We've got to put 100% of our energy in getting our rest tonight ..."
Shaka even expects the guys to deliver EGBs while sleeping!
When I first heard that, I thought "I doubt those guys will sleep at all after that game!"
And then I remembered they're 18-22 year old guys and not an old dude like me. :P :P :P
Looks like Breeding and O'Connell are reffing the St. John's-UCONN game, so we don't have to battle them again tonight
Whew!
Fun game at the garden
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 03:04:57 PM
Wonder if a new media deal will be announced shortly as well. It seems like they would go hand in hand right?
I did see a tweet earlier that essentially said a new deal with Fox and CBS was expected.
UConn pulling away from the Johnnies
A bit surprised this game is pseudo competitive. Although Jenkins can ball.
Johnnies playing good
Right, STJ really playing intense really locked in...shows how good UCONN is to match it and actually be better. Them and Houston would be a great game.
They won't win, but STJ was very impressive tonight. They can take on quite a few good teams next week.
When UCONN plays their A game they're exceedingly difficult to beat. I'm just not sure the best defensive teams like Houston can score enough.
Cam Spencer was unreal in the second half. Single handedly prevented St. John's from getting back into the game.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 15, 2024, 06:47:06 PM
Cam Spencer was unreal in the second half. Single handedly prevented St. John's from getting back into the game.
He's been unreal all season.
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 15, 2024, 06:41:07 PM
They won't win, but STJ was very impressive tonight. They can take on quite a few good teams next week.
Didn't even quit when down 8 inside a minute, as they did in Fiserv. Hang a banner!
Pitino to Michigan?
I do like it when Jop doesn't drive.
Marquette-UConn in the final
Believe Commissioner Val Ackerman said the Big East just signed an agreement today to have the Big East Tournament at Madison Square Garden until 2032.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 15, 2024, 10:58:45 PM
It was loud where I was watching. Did Commissioner Val Ackerman say the Big East just signed an agreement today to have the Big East Tournament at Madison Square Garden until 2032.
Yes, 50 year anniversary. Let's go to that one!
Quote from: DoctorV on March 15, 2024, 11:04:09 PM
Yes, 50 year anniversary. Let's go to that one!
Awesome!!
Quote from: DoctorV on March 15, 2024, 11:04:09 PM
Yes, 50 year anniversary. Let's go to that one!
When is the Big Ten coming back to MSG? They told everyone they were taking over MSG.
Maybe MSG told them the 5,000 people who attended was too embarrassing for MSG. :D
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 15, 2024, 11:06:11 PM
Awesome!!
Yep. Honestly, I'm staring to love this Shaka driven ownership of msg.
The BE didn't see this one coming- Marquette, sans an all American, rolling back to the finals after the surprise win of it all.
Let go back to back like Barack Obama
Quote from: DoctorV on March 15, 2024, 11:10:21 PM
Yep. Honestly, I'm staring to love this Shaka driven ownership of msg.
The BE didn't see this one coming- Marquette, sans an all American, rolling back to the finals after the surprise win of it all.
Let go back to back like Barack Obama
Love the natural tie in of a Chicago personality to Marquette. ::)
Quote from: DoctorV on March 15, 2024, 11:04:09 PM
Yes, 50 year anniversary. Let's go to that one!
WoW! I'll be 85 God willing.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 15, 2024, 11:14:37 PM
WoW! I'll be 85 God willing.
God bless you. I'll see you there!