https://twitter.com/goodmanhoops/status/1372964871566950407?s=21
Per Goodman
Per Goodman.
Good riddance
Double
Woooooow
Color me surprised.
edit: who is stadium (i.e. - news per @stadium)
Just heard this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q
can someone please embed this
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:38:54 PM
Color me surprised.
Color me optimistic — for the first time since 2016
Totally thought this was another MU82 troll job. Wow, what an unexpected Friday delight.
Wow.
I was here
Talk about a Friday news dump as the tournament starts.
I'll drink a beer to that
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:38:54 PM
Color me surprised.
edit: who is stadium (i.e. - news per @stadium)
Me too.
First time I've been happy on opening weekend if the NCAA tournament since 2013
That's a shame...
Heard this a few minutes ago too.
Great news. (Hello everyone.)
Adios m'fer and the green weenie you rode in on, hey?
LETS GOOOO!!!
Apologies are in order from MANY.
Thank you to all of the hard work Wojo and staff put in to our program these last seven years. As stated repeatedly, wonderful ambassador for Marquette and to the program. Will root for him at whatever his next stop will be.
Bittersweet day. Brighter days ahead for Marquette.
Holy crap they actually did it
Confirmed:
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1372965565871063048
Thank God!!
Our long national nightmare is over!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Journal Sentinel reporting it, too, so it's legit.
Gotta hope they have someone lined up, although that would mean it's likely not a coach currently in the tourney (Moser, etc.)
Buy a round for any MU fan I see today!!!!
About time
News from Marquette Today
Marquette University announces change in leadership of men's basketball program
National search for next head coach begins immediately
Marquette University Vice President and Director of Athletics Bill Scholl today announced a change in leadership of the Marquette men's basketball program. Steve Wojciechowski has been relieved of his duties as head coach after seven seasons.
"After a thorough evaluation of our program over the last week, which included multiple conversations with Steve, I concluded that now is the right time for a new leader of our storied program," said Scholl. "I'm confident that our history of success and our commitment to developing young men who are leaders on and off the court will attract the highest caliber of coaching talent. I want to thank Steve for his dedication to our student-athletes, and for how he represented our men's basketball program and the university. We wish Steve, Lindsay, Jack and Charlie nothing but the best in the future."
Wojciechowski went 128-95 (.574) in seven seasons as head coach at Marquette, including two NCAA tournament appearances, with a BIG EAST Conference record of 59-68 (.465). The Golden Eagles went 13-14 this season.
The transition costs and obligations related to the change in coaching leadership will be paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics.
Marquette University men's basketball has a rich tradition of success, with 33 NCAA tournament appearances, including 16 Sweet Sixteen, seven Elite Eight and three Final Four appearances. In 1977, Marquette won the NCAA national championship under the legendary Al McGuire.
The university will begin a national search for the next head men's basketball coach immediately.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 19, 2021, 12:40:59 PM
Talk about a Friday news dump as the tournament starts.
I didn't dare mention it, but I had the feeling that if movement was going to be made, it would be on the Friday news dump. I figured if he made it through today, he was here next year. He didn't.
Wow.
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
Quote from: jsglow on March 19, 2021, 12:42:15 PM
Great news. (Hello everyone.)
Glow!
Friday NCAA tourney news dump
The admin does care!
Looking forward to a new era of MU bball!
Damn. Was it a $5 million Venmo that arrived last night that did the trick?
Uhhh....Bam? Is this official?
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
I wouldn't be so sure about that
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
How do you know that? Silly if you don't know for certain.
Thank you, Coach Wojo. Classy guy you are. Yet, this move had to be done.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
You don't know that.
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2021, 12:46:03 PM
How do you know that? Silly if you don't know for certain.
I'm just going by the press release
I appreciate the effort
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
And how do you know that?
OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!! YES!!!!
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:46:35 PM
I'm just going by the press release
Press release is silent on the topic. Nothing about a search, etc.
Really wish it worked out. Seemed like a good guy and a great recruiter. Just missed the coaching leg of the chair.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on March 19, 2021, 12:46:08 PM
Thank you, Coach Wojo. Classy guy you are. Yet, this move had to be done.
Yes.
Everything has changed in this moment.
We will be back!!!!
woahhh. goodluck steve. had to be done
So much for everyone who guaranteed he'd be back, this year didn't count, and that the collective fan base has no power.
Today is a good day.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2021, 12:47:32 PM
Press release is silent on the topic. Nothing about a search, etc.
https://gomarquette.com/news/2021/3/19/mens-basketball-mubb.aspx
"The university will immediately begin a national search for the next head men's basketball coach immediately."
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
Normally I would agree. Not this time. Anyone will be better and bring back some optimism.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:46:35 PM
I'm just going by the press release
What did you expect the press release to say? We have vigorously been vetting candidates for the past 2 months as we had zero faith in our coach at the time?
Gots to admit, I'd figured he'd get a covid pass. Wow!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:48:37 PM
https://gomarquette.com/news/2021/3/19/mens-basketball-mubb.aspx
"The university will immediately begin a national search for the next head men's basketball coach immediately."
Thanks rocky.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on March 19, 2021, 12:49:06 PM
What did you expect the press release to say? We have vigorously been vetting candidates for the past 2 months as we had zero faith in our coach at the time?
Exactly.
Finally. Better late than never. We weren't going anywhere with him. It wasn't going to get any better, he wasn't magically going to figure it out in year 8. Now with the band aid ripped off, we can move on to finding the person that we'll take us where we think we should go. This may not be the next person but we know for sure Wojo wasn't that person either. Glad they finally realized this.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:48:37 PM
https://gomarquette.com/news/2021/3/19/mens-basketball-mubb.aspx
"The university will immediately begin a national search for the next head men's basketball coach immediately."
Ah ... that wasn't in the statement they tweeted out.
Realistically, the University had no choice. It had to be done, hey?
Good riddance to the Projo vs Nojo arguments that went in circles forever.
Just kidding, now all the Nojos are going to constantly remind everyone that they were right all along. woof
Quote from: Farley36 on March 19, 2021, 12:48:34 PM
So much for everyone who guaranteed he'd be back, this year didn't count, and that the collective fan base has no power.
Today is a good day.
Absolutely right.
Where are all the condescending a-holes who tried to shut us up for so long? The fanbase got this done - there's no question.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
Prove it.
Holy crap. Happy to be wrong and eat crow on this one. Probably gonna be a long road ahead and gonna suck with Dawson, Lewis and Carton bolt, but this is 100% the right thing to do. Wojo sucked.
Quote from: YaBlueIt on March 19, 2021, 12:40:41 PM
I was here
and I was wrong - didn't think the admin would pull the lever this year
BTW, Bad Reporter had this nailed long ago, hey?
Quote from: joparks on March 19, 2021, 12:49:56 PM
Better late than never.
I mean - now that they fired him, which year exactly before this were they gonna do it?
Let's hope they get a proven commodity but I fear they'll go the assistant route again.
Quote from: YaBlueIt on March 19, 2021, 12:50:23 PM
Good riddance to the Projo vs Nojo arguments that went in circles forever.
Just kidding, now all the Nojos are going to constantly remind everyone that they were right all along. woof
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Absolutely right.
Where are all the condescending a-holes who tried to shut us up for so long? The fanbase got this done - there's no question.
Case in point.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
BTW, Bad Reporter had this nailed long ago, hey?
Sigh, and so the crowing begins
Quote from: YaBlueIt on March 19, 2021, 12:52:12 PM
Case in point.
I mean I was right. I feel like I'm entitled to rubbing it in for at least the immediate 24 hours after.
I'm shocked
Pleased, but shocked.
I don't think it's a news " dump "
They will actually get some press during the NCAAs
I just jumped up and touched the ceiling in the hallway. I believe my vert somehow has increased 6 inches...I could never get up there until now. :)
Is this the thread for all those scoopers in the know who told everyone to settle down, that There was no way Wojo wasn't coaching MUBB next year?
Can't wait .
Genuinely shocked. Kudos to administration for reading the room.
Hopefully this doesn't lead to a prolonged rebuild 🙏
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
BTW, Bad Reporter had this nailed long ago, hey?
Right. This didn't happen because of the billboard or the PT article yesterday.
I think people who were hearing things earlier this week had it right. This started with the Georgetown loss.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Sigh, and so the crowing begins
People get the crowing they deserve. Karma.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
Sigh, and so the crowing begins
And Fluffy BM swung and missed, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
BTW, Bad Reporter had this nailed long ago, hey?
Predicting that an underperfoming coach might get fired was really going out on a limb.
I wonder how he feels about Gonzaga's chances tomorrow.
Guess it was awhirl after all
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 12:54:08 PM
And Fluffy BM swung and missed, aina?
Per usual.
Happy to be wrong.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:52:57 PM
I mean I was right. I feel like I'm entitled to rubbing it in for at least the immediate 24 hours after.
You're on the clock!
Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2021, 12:54:18 PM
Predicting that an underperfoming coach might get fired was really going out on a limb.
I wonder how he feels about Gonzaga's chances tomorrow.
Apparently it was because that wasn't the consensus around here. Funny how it now has become something that was as obvious as a 1 seed beating a 16 seed. Spin.
Slightly nervous where we go now.. but can't be much worse... er... right??
I hope Wojo finds success going forward. Stand up guy and having a clean program with high character staff and players is important to me, so I always appreciated that. If only he could have found a way to see success down the stretches.
I wish I knew how to embed this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvmmkx1dtmA
Next man up.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Absolutely right.
Where are all the condescending a-holes who tried to shut us up for so long? The fanbase got this done - there's no question.
Even when you get your wish, you are the same nauseating presence as ever.
Quote from: UWW2MU on March 19, 2021, 12:58:01 PM
Slightly nervous where we go now.. but can't be much worse... er... right??
I hope Wojo finds success going forward. Stand up guy and having a clean program with high character staff and players is important to me, so I always appreciated that. If only he could have found a way to see success down the stretches.
💯
THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD. THE WICKED WITCH IS FOOKIN' DEAD, AINA???
Quote from: Farley36 on March 19, 2021, 12:56:42 PM
Apparently it was because that wasn't the consensus around here. Funny how it now has become something that was as obvious as a 1 seed beating a 16 seed. Spin.
The "it's not going to happen" spin seemed to be loudest among the "administration doesn't care about basketball" crowd.
Cool.
Good guy. I won't hate him. But clearly not up to the task and a good move.
Over/Under number of seasons until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 19, 2021, 12:53:42 PM
Right. This didn't happen because of the billboard or the PT article yesterday.
I think people who were hearing things earlier this week had it right. This started with the Georgetown loss.
I mostly agree. They were on the edge of the cliff. The article may have been the breeze that nudged it over the edge..
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 19, 2021, 01:01:20 PM
Over/Under number of seasons until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
I would have put it at 0.25.
And you know this how?
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
They fired him without a plan/successor in place.
Not good.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 19, 2021, 01:01:20 PM
Over/Under number of seasons until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
I'll put my mortgage on the under
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:51:35 PM
I mean - now that they fired him, which year exactly before this were they gonna do it?
I personally wanted him gone after the loss to Murray State in the tourney 2 years ago after he completed year 5. I believed the book was written on him then. Granted, many here had said that was ridiculous but what has transpired since then just solidified it. I gave him 5 years, after year 5, he hadn't shown me anything that he was the guy. You cut your losses and move on. The admin actually extended him which they are now paying for that mistake.
I give MU credit for making the move. Now the hard part starts. I sure hope they make the right hire.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 19, 2021, 01:01:20 PM
Over/Under number of seasons losses until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
FTFY
Quote from: Jockey on March 19, 2021, 01:01:27 PM
I mostly agree. They were on the edge of the cliff. The article may have been the breeze that nudged it over the edge..
MU would have been working on the buyout details/cash prior to yesterday. It was a coincidence.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 19, 2021, 01:03:54 PM
And you know this how?
Jeez.
Read the press release, folks.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 19, 2021, 01:07:34 PM
MU would have been working on the buyout details/cash prior to yesterday. It was a coincidence.
Right. This isn't a decision that gets made in 24 hours because of a blog post.
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2021, 01:06:33 PM
I give MU credit for making the move. Now the hard part starts. I sure hope they make the right hire.
Goose,
Would you prefer an assistant or an established coach - maybe from a mid-major?
Personally, I don't really care. Every successful head coach was once an assistant. I want a guy who has a defined system and who can recruit to that system.
What does "The transition costs and obligations related to the change in coaching leadership will be paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics." mean?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2021, 01:09:11 PM
Right. This isn't a decision that gets made in 24 hours because of a blog post.
While you're definitely right, it sure is a fun coincidence.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 19, 2021, 01:08:57 PM
Jeez.
Read the press release, folks.
I wouldn't expect the press release to say "We've been working behind the scenes for weeks to secure a coach who's currently under contract with another university."
What is in there is pretty standard language.
I'd speculate that:
A) There isn't a new coach in place right now
B) Bill Scholl has a short list of candidates in mind, and has reason to believe that under the right circumstances the interest would be mutual.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 19, 2021, 01:11:18 PM
What does "The transition costs and obligations related to the change in coaching leadership will be paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics." mean?
It means that they are preparing for the inevitable sh*tstorm that is coming from the University community that has fewer students and is cutting employees. Beyond that, I have no idea what it means because the University can allocate its resources however it wants.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 19, 2021, 01:11:18 PM
What does "The transition costs and obligations related to the change in coaching leadership will be paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics." mean?
NM
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 19, 2021, 01:11:18 PM
What does "The transition costs and obligations related to the change in coaching leadership will be paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics." mean?
Have to think this has to do with the things people have been saying about the optics of such a move and the fact that the school is letting go its highest paid employee and buying them out while simultaneously cutting educational staff. Saying that the Educational staff dollars aren't going to cover this buyout.
Jockey
Good question and really do not have an answer. This is a big hire and I would look at as many candidates as possible. I will be watching closely.
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on March 19, 2021, 01:11:18 PM
What does "The transition costs and obligations related to the change in coaching leadership will be paid for entirely by Intercollegiate Athletics." mean?
My guess is it is coming from the Blue and Gold fund that must have just gotten a large donation.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 19, 2021, 01:15:05 PM
My guess is it is coming from the Blue and Gold fund that must have just gotten a large donation.
Yeah because donations to cover direct compensation wouldn't be tax deductible.
It was going to be brutal next year with fans in the stands. Even if they didn't want to make the move, they were left with no other choice. Its going to hurt but it had to be done.
They have to get this hire right. Its not like we were consistently finishing in the top 3 and we fired a guy. Wojo set the bar low. I have to believe we can hire a coach that at least provides similar results. Hopefully the new coach takes it up a notch or two.
Big time donors stepped up to pay the buyout. Hopefully they step up and pay for a high end coach. I don't want an assistant coach. I want a proven commodity.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 19, 2021, 01:01:20 PM
Over/Under number of seasons until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
You're far more optimistic than me. I'll go with "when it seems to be taking too long to hire his replacement."
Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2021, 01:13:12 PM
I wouldn't expect the press release to say "We've been working behind the scenes for weeks to secure a coach who's currently under contract with another university."
What is in there is pretty standard language.
I'd speculate that:
A) There isn't a new coach in place right now
B) Bill Scholl has a short list of candidates in mind, and has reason to believe that under the right circumstances the interest would be mutual.
Yup.
Exactly what I was implying
Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 19, 2021, 01:31:05 PM
You're far more optimistic than me. I'll go with "when it seems to be taking too long to hire his replacement."
Yeah I wasn't specific enough. By bitching, I mean calling for his head.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 12:48:37 PM
https://gomarquette.com/news/2021/3/19/mens-basketball-mubb.aspx
"The university will immediately begin a national search for the next head men's basketball coach immediately."
Does using the double "immediately" actually operate as a portal in the space-time continuum and suggest that they've already hired Wojo's replacement?
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2021, 01:14:55 PM
Jockey
Good question and really do not have an answer. This is a big hire and I would look at as many candidates as possible. I will be watching closely.
We have gone the assistant route for a long time. I say lets try and get real HC with experience.
Now I can say, I told you so. Try not to give people s*** when they provide intel.
Thank god he's gone
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 19, 2021, 12:42:57 PM
Thank you to all of the hard work Wojo and staff put in to our program these last seven years. As stated repeatedly, wonderful ambassador for Marquette and to the program. Will root for him at whatever his next stop will be.
Bittersweet day. Brighter days ahead for Marquette.
+ 1
Good take! Let's start the Return to Relevance now! #MUBB
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 19, 2021, 01:46:41 PM
Now I can say, I told you so. Try not to give people s*** when they provide intel.
Thank god he's gone
Yup! 82 owes you an apology
And fluffy told us all that this was never going to happen.
I never understand why people give other so much sh!t for sharing info when at the same time we're all begging for inside info
Today is a good day!!!
Here's a question: Was it the Georgetown game that did it? A lot of folks said one game wouldn't determine whether or not Wojo would be here next year. But losing that game to an inferior program, and in the fashion we lost, may have tipped the scales.
I wonder if Wojo would still be here if we'd won that game. Life and fortune hang on some pretty slender threads.
I understand the desire for MU to be more competitive. But I don't get the vitriol towards Wojo. He worked hard, recruited well, and was a great ambassador for Marquette. We were ranked for good chunks of his tenure with some amazing recuits like Ellenson and Garcia and the development of Markus. I'll always wonder "what could have been" last year if Joey and Sam stayed and Covid doesn't happen and cancel tourney. We were on our way to the tourney last year even without them. We can all agree on his failures in regards to the tourney. But to shoot fire at the guy is something I don't understand.
Quote from: swoopem on March 19, 2021, 01:50:47 PM
Yup! 82 owes you an apology
And fluffy told us all that this was never going to happen.
I never said anything about him or his information. I never said he was wrong or a dumbass for posting it.
I just didn't think there was any way he was going to be fired.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2021, 01:52:33 PM
Here's a question: Was it the Georgetown game that did it? A lot of folks said one game wouldn't determine whether or not Wojo would be here next year. But losing that game to an inferior program, and in the fashion we lost, may have tipped the scales.
I wonder if Wojo would still be here if we'd won that game. Life and fortune hang on some pretty slender threads.
I'm wondering if that took it from "we've gotta do some damage control this off-season" to "this isn't salvageable."
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2021, 01:52:33 PM
Here's a question: Was it the Georgetown game that did it? A lot of folks said one game wouldn't determine whether or not Wojo would be here next year. But losing that game to an inferior program, and in the fashion we lost, may have tipped the scales.
I wonder if Wojo would still be here if we'd won that game. Life and fortune hang on some pretty slender threads.
I think getting the crap kicked out of us by Georgetown was the final straw.
The king is dead. Long live the king. When they figure out who it is going to be.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 19, 2021, 01:54:53 PM
I think getting the crap kicked out of us by Georgetown was the final straw.
From the high of North Carolina to the low of Georgetown.
Canceled.
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 19, 2021, 01:46:41 PM
Now I can say, I told you so. Try not to give people s*** when they provide intel.
Thank god he's gone
I believed you!. You know scoop, handful of known it alls that shun anyone with a different view.
82 it really was a swirling whirlpool not a clogged sink as you suggested. ;)
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2021, 01:52:33 PM
Here's a question: Was it the Georgetown game that did it? A lot of folks said one game wouldn't determine whether or not Wojo would be here next year. But losing that game to an inferior program, and in the fashion we lost, may have tipped the scales.
I wonder if Wojo would still be here if we'd won that game. Life and fortune hang on some pretty slender threads.
I think more than the loss itself, it was the effort put forth. As others have said, it looked as though we checked out. I've never seen Wojo's body language so bad while sitting on the bench. When I saw that I thought it might be over.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 19, 2021, 01:53:46 PM
I understand the desire for MU to be more competitive. But I don't get the vitriol towards Wojo. He worked hard, recruited well, and was a great ambassador for Marquette. We were ranked for good chunks of his tenure with some amazing recuits like Ellenson and Garcia and the development of Markus. I'll always wonder "what could have been" last year if Joey and Sam stayed and Covid doesn't happen and cancel tourney. We were on our way to the tourney last year even without them. We can all agree on his failures in regards to the tourney. But to shoot fire at the guy is something I don't understand.
Here is something true: Wojo's gone and he's not coming back. You don't need to try and sell us on him. He's done at Marquette.
Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 19, 2021, 01:52:33 PM
Here's a question: Was it the Georgetown game that did it? A lot of folks said one game wouldn't determine whether or not Wojo would be here next year. But losing that game to an inferior program, and in the fashion we lost, may have tipped the scales.
I wonder if Wojo would still be here if we'd won that game. Life and fortune hang on some pretty slender threads.
If we beat Georgetown and then Villanova, and lost in the semis, Wojo would 100% be coming back next year.
All the posters condescendingly telling us one or two games wouldn't save Wojo's job and the admin made their decision halfway through the season are the same ones guaranteeing us he'd be back next year "cuz COVID". Moral of the story - these posters have NO idea what they're talking about and use condescension as a vehicle for their own insecurities. Today, they've been proven wrong, some have owned up - some are nowhere to be found.
Either way - let's go get a coach this program deserves. Let's WIN.
I'd almost guarantee it had to do with ticket renewals. In the current climate money talks, and they university can't afford to lose that revenue even if they have to shell out in the short term or knock on a donor's door to help.
Quote from: THEbig0 on March 19, 2021, 02:12:34 PM
I'd almost guarantee it had to do with ticket renewals. In the current climate money talks, and they university can't afford to lose that revenue even if they have to shell out in the short term or knock on a donor's door to help.
Would they have that info yet? But I agree. I think the projected revenue lost if he stayed was starting to get close to the cost of getting rid of him.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 19, 2021, 02:15:09 PM
Would they have that info yet? But I agree. I think the projected revenue lost if he stayed was starting to get close to the cost of getting rid of him.
Ticket renewals don't come around until summer / fall - so no. This had to do with intense pressure from the fanbase and a piss poor (versus passably mediocre) season result.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 12:50:17 PM
Realistically, the University had no choice. It had to be done, hey?
front yard...Shorewest or First Weber?
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 02:11:51 PM
If we beat Georgetown and then Villanova, and lost in the semis, Wojo would 100% be coming back next year.
All the posters condescendingly telling us one or two games wouldn't save Wojo's job and the admin made their decision halfway through the season are the same ones guaranteeing us he'd be back next year "cuz COVID". Moral of the story - these posters have NO idea what they're talking about and use condescension as a vehicle for their own insecurities. Today, they've been proven wrong, some have owned up - some are nowhere to be found.
Either way - let's go get a coach this program deserves. Let's WIN.
don't hold back!
It is a bittersweet situation with a lot of emotions. Any divorce is a failure, and any failure hurts.
I was a ProJo for most of his time at Marquette. Wojo operated the program with class and brought in a lot of players I enjoyed watching, kids who represented the university very well. He seemed to care deeply about the athletes and about making our program great.
As was the case with many of us, Hausershima and all of its trappings (the collapse, the letter, the transfers, etc) was a major event that affected how I thought about Wojo's ability to run the program. While I assign a heaping helping of blame to the Hausers, managing egos and promoting good locker-room chemistry are huge parts of a coach's job. It was a massive fail on Wojo's part, and I became a "ShowMeJo" after that.
I was very concerned about Wojo's ability to recruit in the wake of Hausershima, so when he was able to land Garcia, Lewis, Oso and eventually DJ, combined with our good start last season, I again stepped in pretty strongly behind him. Then, of course, came another collapse, and Wojo officially was on the clock for me.
As this season progressed, I became increasingly frustrated with some of his poor coaching. After this season's loss to DePaul, I fell in line with the NoJos, and said he should be fired immediately. Our guys went on to lose 6 of 7 (again), and like many others here, I was more sure than ever that he had to go.
I really didn't think it would happen for all the reasons many of us discussed here, and I will be interested to hear how Scholl, Lovell, etc, arrived at the decision to do it.
Was it as easy as them being pushed over the top by the humiliation against Georgetown? Was the pressure applied by regular fans like us here at Scoop too much for them to ignore? (If so, yay us!) Did the reality of what was waiting for Wojo & Co. next season -- apathy, lost income for the department, booing -- finally hit home? Did a thorough examination of Wojo's body of work make Scholl et al decide that this was the only logical move? Did a couple/few rich alums make their voices heard and pony up the big bucks? Some combination of the above? Hopefully, that information will come out.
I congratulate Bad Reporter on being the first to really talk about the likelihood of this happening. That was an outstanding call, and I'm glad I didn't take the bet! I also congratulate Scholl and Lovell for making what had to be a very difficult decision; regardless of how they arrived at the decision, as a fan and an alum it's nice to know that they, indeed, do care about Marquette basketball being great.
As others have said ... now the tough part starts. I hope we get a coach who has a history of recruiting athletes with Big East-level skills and with a diverse history of employment. Preferably, our new coach will have been a head coach at some collegiate level as well as having been an assistant to a very good P5 coach or three.
Again, a bittersweet day, but a very necessary one. And yes, the word really was swirling.
We Are Marquette!
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Absolutely right.
Where are all the condescending a-holes who tried to shut us up for so long? The fanbase got this done - there's no question.
That is a very good question.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 19, 2021, 01:00:32 PM
Cool.
Good guy. I won't hate him. But clearly not up to the task and a good move.
That is absolutely correct. And he is walking away with millions.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 19, 2021, 01:53:46 PM
We were ranked for good chunks of his tenure
You must be confusing Wojo with someone else.
YES! This is so amazing because I was told soooo many times this wouldn't and couldn't possibly happen
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 02:23:10 PM
It is a bittersweet situation with a lot of emotions. Any divorce is a failure, and any failure hurts.
I was a ProJo for most of his time at Marquette. Wojo operated the program with class and brought in a lot of players I enjoyed watching, kids who represented the university very well. He seemed to care deeply about the athletes and about making our program great.
As was the case with many of us, Hausershima and all of its trappings (the collapse, the letter, the transfers, etc) was a major event that affected how I thought about Wojo's ability to run the program. While I assign a heaping helping of blame to the Hausers, managing egos and promoting good locker-room chemistry are huge parts of a coach's job. It was a massive fail on Wojo's part, and I became a "ShowMeJo" after that.
I was very concerned about Wojo's ability to recruit in the wake of Hausershima, so when he was able to land Garcia, Lewis, Oso and eventually DJ, combined with our good start last season, I again stepped in pretty strongly behind him. Then, of course, came another collapse, and Wojo officially was on the clock for me.
As this season progressed, I became increasingly frustrated with some of his poor coaching. After this season's loss to DePaul, I fell in line with the NoJos, and said he should be fired immediately. Our guys went on to lose 6 of 7 (again), and like many others here, I was more sure than ever that he had to go.
I really didn't think it would happen for all the reasons many of us discussed here, and I will be interested to hear how Scholl, Lovell, etc, arrived at the decision to do it.
Was it as easy as them being pushed over the top by the humiliation against Georgetown? Was the pressure applied by regular fans like us here at Scoop too much for them to ignore? (If so, yay us!) Did the reality of what was waiting for Wojo & Co. next season -- apathy, lost income for the department, booing -- finally hit home? Did a thorough examination of Wojo's body of work make Scholl et al decide that this was the only logical move? Did a couple/few rich alums make their voices heard and pony up the big bucks? Some combination of the above? Hopefully, that information will come out.
I congratulate Bad Reporter on being the first to really talk about the likelihood of this happening. That was an outstanding call, and I'm glad I didn't take the bet! I also congratulate Scholl and Lovell for making what had to be a very difficult decision; regardless of how they arrived at the decision, as a fan and an alum it's nice to know that they, indeed, do care about Marquette basketball being great.
As others have said ... now the tough part starts. I hope we get a coach who has a history of recruiting athletes with Big East-level skills and with a diverse history of employment. Preferably, our new coach will have been a head coach at some collegiate level as well as having been an assistant to a very good P5 coach or three.
Again, a bittersweet day, but a very necessary one. And yes, the word really was swirling.
We Are Marquette!
On behalf of all true Nojos - we accept your apology.
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 19, 2021, 12:53:19 PM
I'm shocked
Pleased, but shocked.
I don't think it's a news " dump "
They will actually get some press during the NCAAs
Yeah, I am shocked also. Have to believe the blogosphere turned the tide.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 19, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
I'm wondering if that took it from "we've gotta do some damage control this off-season" to "this isn't salvageable."
The latter should have been a no brainer
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 02:11:51 PM
If we beat Georgetown and then Villanova, and lost in the semis, Wojo would 100% be coming back next year.
All the posters condescendingly telling us one or two games wouldn't save Wojo's job and the admin made their decision halfway through the season are the same ones guaranteeing us he'd be back next year "cuz COVID". Moral of the story - these posters have NO idea what they're talking about and use condescension as a vehicle for their own insecurities. Today, they've been proven wrong, some have owned up - some are nowhere to be found.
Either way - let's go get a coach this program deserves. Let's WIN.
Gotta hand it to you...you aren't wrong on this one
Quote from: tower912 on March 19, 2021, 01:57:16 PM
The king is dead. Long live the king. When they figure out who it is going to be.
Tower slurping to the end.
I was leaning towards keeping him for next year....until I read the AE/PAint Touches/Cracked Sidewalks article yesterday and they convinced me he needed to go. In particular the points about creating turnovers and the never ending excuses on their poor defense.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 19, 2021, 01:54:04 PM
I never said anything about him or his information. I never said he was wrong or a dumbass for posting it.
I just didn't think there was any way he was going to be fired.
Correction, you were adamant he wasn't getting fired snd therefore no one should discuss it.
Quote from: Goose on March 19, 2021, 01:14:55 PM
Jockey
Good question and really do not have an answer. This is a big hire and I would look at as many candidates as possible. I will be watching closely.
Absolutely. Be thorough and stay away from the powerpoint shows.
Quote from: jsglow on March 19, 2021, 12:42:15 PM
Great news. (Hello everyone.)
Does this mean your back?
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 02:23:10 PM
It is a bittersweet situation with a lot of emotions. Any divorce is a failure, and any failure hurts.
I was a ProJo for most of his time at Marquette. Wojo operated the program with class and brought in a lot of players I enjoyed watching, kids who represented the university very well. He seemed to care deeply about the athletes and about making our program great.
As was the case with many of us, Hausershima and all of its trappings (the collapse, the letter, the transfers, etc) was a major event that affected how I thought about Wojo's ability to run the program. While I assign a heaping helping of blame to the Hausers, managing egos and promoting good locker-room chemistry are huge parts of a coach's job. It was a massive fail on Wojo's part, and I became a "ShowMeJo" after that.
I was very concerned about Wojo's ability to recruit in the wake of Hausershima, so when he was able to land Garcia, Lewis, Oso and eventually DJ, combined with our good start last season, I again stepped in pretty strongly behind him. Then, of course, came another collapse, and Wojo officially was on the clock for me.
As this season progressed, I became increasingly frustrated with some of his poor coaching. After this season's loss to DePaul, I fell in line with the NoJos, and said he should be fired immediately. Our guys went on to lose 6 of 7 (again), and like many others here, I was more sure than ever that he had to go.
I really didn't think it would happen for all the reasons many of us discussed here, and I will be interested to hear how Scholl, Lovell, etc, arrived at the decision to do it.
Was it as easy as them being pushed over the top by the humiliation against Georgetown? Was the pressure applied by regular fans like us here at Scoop too much for them to ignore? (If so, yay us!) Did the reality of what was waiting for Wojo & Co. next season -- apathy, lost income for the department, booing -- finally hit home? Did a thorough examination of Wojo's body of work make Scholl et al decide that this was the only logical move? Did a couple/few rich alums make their voices heard and pony up the big bucks? Some combination of the above? Hopefully, that information will come out.
I congratulate Bad Reporter on being the first to really talk about the likelihood of this happening. That was an outstanding call, and I'm glad I didn't take the bet! I also congratulate Scholl and Lovell for making what had to be a very difficult decision; regardless of how they arrived at the decision, as a fan and an alum it's nice to know that they, indeed, do care about Marquette basketball being great.
As others have said ... now the tough part starts. I hope we get a coach who has a history of recruiting athletes with Big East-level skills and with a diverse history of employment. Preferably, our new coach will have been a head coach at some collegiate level as well as having been an assistant to a very good P5 coach or three.
Again, a bittersweet day, but a very necessary one. And yes, the word really was swirling.
We Are Marquette!
Nice post. Thoughtful, well stated, and probably similar experience to many MU fans.
Pretty sure Dodds popped a hemorrhoid today, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 02:41:13 PM
Pretty sure Dodds popped a hemorrhoid today, aina?
We can send him a care package of Preparation H
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 02:41:13 PM
Pretty sure Dodds popped a hemorrhoid today, aina?
No doubt! He has been completely wrong
Quote from: Farley36 on March 19, 2021, 02:40:17 PM
Nice post. Thoughtful, well stated, and probably similar experience to many MU fans.
Nice except for the part where he failed to apologize for being a needling, smug, you know what?
Other than that, I agree. I wish Wojo would've been successful. I honestly was resigned to him returning and sincerely hoped he could emerge from the wasteland of the last 7 years to bring us success even if everything pointed to his complete inability to do so.
I won't bash the guy. He's a human. It's got to hurt for him and for the kids, that by all accounts were close to him. A little empathy isn't that hard to show. The amount of money he makes is immaterial. I bet he'd gladly give a sizable portion of it for guaranteed success.
That said, it was time. This is life and the last seven years just didn't cut it. The future is now and we shall see where we go. A lot hangs in the balance over the next 12 months. If we remain as fiscally committed to basketball as we have been for numerous years, there's no reason Marquette can't be a success. Let's just hope it's with the next coach. Seven more years of mediocrity would be hard to swallow.
Class guy.
Clean program
Good recruiter
Let's hope he can take those attributes somewhere that will benefit from them. I don't think we'll ever see the "Crean Sucks" motto turn to "Wojo Sucks", because he doesn't. He just cannot coach basketball.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/31094025/steve-wojciechowski-fired-seven-seasons-marquette-golden-eagles
Quote from: MUCam on March 19, 2021, 02:55:44 PMI wish Wojo would've been successful. I honestly was resigned to him returning and sincerely hoped he could emerge from the wasteland of the last 7 years to bring us success even if everything pointed to his complete inability to do so.
I won't bash the guy. He's a human. It's got to hurt for him and for the kids, that by all accounts were close to him. A little empathy isn't that hard to show. The amount of money he makes is immaterial. I bet he'd gladly give a sizable portion of it for guaranteed success.
That said, it was time. This is life and the last seven years just didn't cut it. The future is now and we shall see where we go. A lot hangs in the balance over the next 12 months. If we remain as fiscally committed to basketball as we have been for numerous years, there's no reason Marquette can't be a success. Let's just hope it's with the next coach. Seven more years of mediocrity would be hard to swallow.
Very well said. Agree 100%.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Absolutely right.
Where are all the condescending a-holes who tried to shut us up for so long? The fanbase got this done - there's no question.
If by fanbase you mean the 1%ers in our fanbase then you are 100% correct.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 19, 2021, 04:09:56 PM
If by fanbase you mean the 1%ers in our fanbase then you are 100% correct.
Wrong. Admin felt the pressure from every angle. Sorry.
Class post from Wojo:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMnUq-Jsnf5/?igshid=a36fuad7ymgw
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2021, 04:14:27 PM
Class post from Wojo:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMnUq-Jsnf5/?igshid=a36fuad7ymgw
Yep. He's always been a class act and I wish him success in his next stop. I really do wish it would have worked out here, but it was definitely time for a change.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
Wrong. Admin felt the pressure from every angle. Sorry.
And only one of those angles mattered.
I don't know what point was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back but at some point a group of donors got pissed enough to make this happen. They don't make that decision and Wojo is still here regardless of the final record. I do know that this didn't happen until the past few days.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2021, 04:14:27 PM
Class post from Wojo:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMnUq-Jsnf5/?igshid=a36fuad7ymgw
Of course. Standard PR. Every coach should take notes.
No one hates Steve, just not our coach.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2021, 04:14:27 PM
Class post from Wojo:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMnUq-Jsnf5/?igshid=a36fuad7ymgw
Eh, he posted a couple lines MU's PR firm wrote up for him.
It does not matter who got it done or why. What matters is we now have a chance of getting this program back on track.
Good by and good luck to Wojo.
Hopefully we can draw a quality coach so I can watch games live again without being sick to my stomach. It has been just too painful over the past year.
I have nothing bad to say about Wojo as a person. I saw how he operated as a coach while photographing games and find him to be a passionate guy with good intentions. Unfortunately things just didn't quite work out...some happenings were just outside of his control.
Nonetheless, he just didn't get it done. I'm looking forward to the change and whoever comes in to replace him. MU better find someone with a proven track record. Spending more now may save them later on, despite the financial difficulties covid has had on the university.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 19, 2021, 04:20:43 PM
And only one of those angles mattered.
I don't know what point was the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back but at some point a group of donors got pissed enough to make this happen. They don't make that decision and Wojo is still here regardless of the final record. I do know that this didn't happen until the past few days.
So did the donors pitch in some extra cash or or were they pissed enough to with hold future donation?
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 04:26:24 PM
Eh, he posted a couple lines MU's PR firm wrote up for him.
True, probably giving him too much credit.
Expected a slideshow, but that was nice.
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on March 19, 2021, 12:47:13 PM
OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!! YES!!!!
Oh happy day
Oh happy day
When Wojo walked
(When he walked)
When Wojo walked
(When he walked)
When Wojo walked
When Wojo walked away
Oh, it's a happy day
There is a Reason Jay Bilas said as long as MU stays in the Old Big East MU will be in the Big Dance. When MU Joined the Old Big East Mr Cords literally whispered in my ear MU will be very good for a very long time. After Marquette joined the New Big East Mr Lovell literally whispered in my ear Do not worry about it it is only basketball. Also when MU joined the New Big East a Cords said this puts MU in rebuilding mode. That said only 20% of this is on the Titanic Power shift within the conference when it changed from Old to New. Benefiting teams like Villanova and Hurting teams Like Marquette. 80% of this is on Coach Wojo. Am a Nojo and think this firing will be good for MU Winning. Which as AL said if winning was not important they would not keep score. # I was the one who yelled Go at the top of my lungs in a silent Rupp Arena when Marquette's Vander caught the inbound pass against Davidson.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 19, 2021, 04:53:29 PM
There is a Reason Jay Bilas said as long as MU stays in the Old Big East MU will be in the Big Dance. When MU Joined the Old Big East Mr Cords literally whispered in my ear MU will be very good for a very long time. After Marquette joined the New Big East Mr Lovell literally whispered in my ear Do not worry about it it is only basketball. Also when MU joined the New Big East a Cords said this puts MU in rebuilding mode. That said only 20% of this is on the Titanic Power shift within the conference when it changed from Old to New. Benefiting teams like Villanova and Hurting teams Like Marquette. 80% of this is on Coach Wojo. Am a Nojo and think this firing will be good for MU Winning. Which as AL said if winning was not important they would not keep score. # I was the one who yelled Go at the top of my lungs in a silent Rupp Arena when Marquette's Vander caught the inbound pass against Davidson.
The more you post about the conference, the less it makes sense.
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 19, 2021, 04:53:29 PM
There is a Reason Jay Bilas said as long as MU stays in the Old Big East MU will be in the Big Dance. When MU Joined the Old Big East Mr Cords literally whispered in my ear MU will be very good for a very long time. After Marquette joined the New Big East Mr Lovell literally whispered in my ear Do not worry about it it is only basketball. Also when MU joined the New Big East a Cords said this puts MU in rebuilding mode. That said only 20% of this is on the Titanic Power shift within the conference when it changed from Old to New. Benefiting teams like Villanova and Hurting teams Like Marquette. 80% of this is on Coach Wojo. Am a Nojo and think this firing will be good for MU Winning. Which as AL said if winning was not important they would not keep score. # I was the one who yelled Go at the top of my lungs in a silent Rupp Arena when Marquette's Vander caught the inbound pass against Davidson.
I don't think you're using the word "literally" correct here.
Plus the current iteration of the Big East predates Lovell and Wojo.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on March 19, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
Let's hope they get a proven commodity but I fear they'll go the assistant route again.
You apparently haven't read the article in the JS. Scholl is quoted as saying he has a "head coach bias." Plus the guy who hired Crean and Steve isn't here anymore.
I know Scholl prefers someone with previous HC experience, but our history indicates we've been better with hiring an assistant (Buzz, TC, O'Neil, Hank) - with the exception of Wojo. With the exception of Al, HC hires have been bad (Dukiet, Diane).
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 19, 2021, 04:53:29 PM
There is a Reason Jay Bilas said as long as MU stays in the Old Big East MU will be in the Big Dance. When MU Joined the Old Big East Mr Cords literally whispered in my ear MU will be very good for a very long time. After Marquette joined the New Big East Mr Lovell literally whispered in my ear Do not worry about it it is only basketball. Also when MU joined the New Big East a Cords said this puts MU in rebuilding mode. That said only 20% of this is on the Titanic Power shift within the conference when it changed from Old to New. Benefiting teams like Villanova and Hurting teams Like Marquette. 80% of this is on Coach Wojo. Am a Nojo and think this firing will be good for MU Winning. Which as AL said if winning was not important they would not keep score. # I was the one who yelled Go at the top of my lungs in a silent Rupp Arena when Marquette's Vander caught the inbound pass against Davidson.
This is multiple times you posted this story. I'm happy for you that Cords whispered in your ear, but who the hell cares and you make no sense.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 04:26:24 PM
Eh, he posted a couple lines MU's PR firm wrote up for him.
Yeah, he's already thinking about his next job. He trashes Marquette on the way out, no one will touch him.
Wojo lost me in the game this year where MU had a big lead and the other coach in desperation implemented a full court zone. Wojo did not call a time out until the lead had evaporated. There was an obvious strategy to counter the zone press and he did nothing.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 05:00:56 PM
I don't think you're using the word "literally" correct here.
I don't think you're using the cord "correct" correctly here.
Quote from: Judge Smails on March 19, 2021, 05:14:21 PM
I know Scholl prefers someone with previous HC experience, but our history indicates we've been better with hiring an assistant (Buzz, TC, O'Neil, Hank) - with the exception of Wojo. With the exception of Al, HC hires have been bad (Dukiet, Diane).
Who's Diane?
Even though Brent was an assistant when MU hired him, he had prior head coaching experience (albeit for only one season).
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 04:26:24 PM
Eh, he posted a couple lines MU's PR firm wrote up for him.
So what? He wouldn't have posted it if it didn't communicate what he wanted to say.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 19, 2021, 05:33:25 PM
So what? He wouldn't have posted it if it didn't communicate what he wanted to say.
Yup. Could have stayed quiet.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 19, 2021, 05:33:25 PM
So what? He wouldn't have posted it if it didn't communicate what he wanted to say.
I swear, some people will never be happy no matter what anybody does.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 19, 2021, 05:33:25 PM
So what? He wouldn't have posted it if it didn't communicate what he wanted to say.
I don't know all the inner workings at MU, but I've seen some peaks inside big time PR. My take on a situation like this is that the only thing that matters is no one making the situation worse. Someone writes up a nice thank you to all the kind folks who've been along for the ride, and the dismissed party clicks send in the relevant outlets.
All I'm saying is, I'm not reading much into any of the social media posts or the interviews offered this week. It's all very controlled with very specific language being used. Standard PR fluff, not actual, personal opinions.
Scholl did offer more than I expected, but it's all still pretty tightly managed.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 05:44:54 PM
I don't know all the inner workings at MU, but I've seen some peaks inside big time PR. My take on a situation like this is that the only thing that matters is no one making the situation worse. Someone writes up a nice thank you to all the kind folks who've been along for the ride, and the dismissed party clicks send in the relevant outlets.
All I'm saying is, I'm not reading much into any of the social media posts or the interviews offered this week. It's all very controlled with very specific language being used. Standard PR fluff, not actual, personal opinions.
Scholl did offer more than I expected, but it's all still pretty tightly managed.
Something written by a PR firm still has to be approved by the person quoted. Pretty standard stuff here.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 19, 2021, 05:47:15 PM
Something written by a PR firm still has to be approved by the person quoted. Pretty standard stuff here.
The guy wants a job coaching college hoops. He'll play his role as expected to not deter sny future suitors. Giving him kudos for that is a stretch, IMO.
Who cares what he has to say? He's someone else's problem now.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 05:44:54 PM
I don't know all the inner workings at MU, but I've seen some peaks inside big time PR. My take on a situation like this is that the only thing that matters is no one making the situation worse. Someone writes up a nice thank you to all the kind folks who've been along for the ride, and the dismissed party clicks send in the relevant outlets.
All I'm saying is, I'm not reading much into any of the social media posts or the interviews offered this week. It's all very controlled with very specific language being used. Standard PR fluff, not actual, personal opinions.
Scholl did offer more than I expected, but it's all still pretty tightly managed.
It better be. No more Shaka fiascos.
Quote from: Tums Festival on March 19, 2021, 05:30:50 PM
Who's Diane?
Even though Brent was an assistant when MU hired him, he had prior head coaching experience (albeit for only one season).
I meant Deane not Diane. Autocorrect.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 05:00:56 PM
I don't think you're using the word "literally" correct here.
Plus the current iteration of the Big East predates Lovell and Wojo.
Mr Lovell held his hand to my ear and whispered this to me at the Wojo's Press Conference announcing Wojo's hiring.
Quote from: Judge Smails on March 19, 2021, 06:12:41 PM
I meant Deane not Diane. Autocorrect.
That is why its called artificial and not actual intelligence.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 05:00:56 PM
I don't think you're using the word "literally" correct here.
Plus the current iteration of the Big East predates Lovell and Wojo.
Mr Cords put his hand to my ear and whispered at the Press conference announcing MU's joining the Old Big East 2 years before Marquette actually joined.
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 19, 2021, 05:20:46 PM
This is multiple times you posted this story. I'm happy for you that Cords whispered in your ear, but who the hell cares and you make no sense.
Am just reporting on things I have been told. Most of Marquette's troubles have to do with Wojo 80% and Coaching.But many do not know about the positive power shift when we joined the Old Big East and the negative power shift when we joined the New Big East. If you were aware of this I apologize.
Oh good, back to the negative of the New Big East ::)
Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 19, 2021, 06:16:56 PM
Mr Lovell held his hand to my ear and whispered this to me at the Wojo's Press Conference announcing Wojo's hiring.
Weird.
Any word on how the players feel about this? Just wondering cuz we do have a couple of guys who can play. Lewis, carton, Garcia to name a few. A good coach imho could have done better with what we do have which is one of the reasons wojo gowne eyn'a?
Do not get me wrong. The only thing I would have done would of been to accept ESPN's deal to stay with UConn, CUSE, Cincy and add some crappy football schools in a hybrid conference. Admit it would be a crappier conference. But MU might have more power within the conference and some tourney wins. But yes that shipped sailed. Also Admit Agree The New Big East is the Best conference for Marquette going forward and the New Big East is a better conference. Will not post on conference anymore. Am a Nojo and at least 80% of it was coaching and Wojo. Let's Move On to make MU the best it can be.
Nm
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 19, 2021, 01:01:20 PM
Over/Under number of seasons until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
.25
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 19, 2021, 01:01:20 PM
Over/Under number of seasons until the bitching starts again?
I'll go with 1.5
Less than zero. There will be bitching the moment the next guy/gal is hired.