Val Ackerman just said it will go on as planned unless the government steps in. Granted she also said the NCAA told them there was no problem having fans.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 11, 2020, 03:55:54 PM
Val Ackerman just said it will go on as planned unless the government steps in. Granted she also said the NCAA told them there was no problem having fans.
My meathead side loves this.
I see very little chance this lasts more than today. There won't be fans there tomorrow.
Very surprised that the Big East Tournament appears to be going ahead as scheduled in one of, if not the largest, outbreak areas in the US. Seems to be a poor decision.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 11, 2020, 04:06:58 PM
I see very little chance this lasts more than today. There won't be fans there tomorrow.
Yeah, I suspect there will be a lot of pressure for the BET to go fan-less. So many people in NYC. The New Rochelle situation should tell them something.
Quote from: Killer Tofu on March 11, 2020, 04:07:28 PM
Very surprised that the Big East Tournament appears to be going ahead as scheduled in one of, if not the largest, outbreak areas in the US. Seems to be a poor decision.
The fans for tonight are already there. Keeping my them out of msg now doesn't really help much.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
The fans for tonight are already there. Keeping my them out of msg now doesn't really help much.
Perhaps, but tomorrow could well be a different story.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 04:17:14 PM
The fans for tonight are already there. Keeping my them out of msg now doesn't really help much.
I would have liked to see them come to the conclusion to play without fans earlier this morning rather than Val making an official announcement at what, almost 5pm eastern?
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Yikes.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
I am curious who you think started a global pandemic, locked down Italy, etc in order to throw us off their scheme to disrupt US politics?
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Lol.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Perfect
Should go fanless tomorrow, but they ought to announce ASAP (before anyone more gets on a plane to NYC).
Supposed to catch an 8:45 AM out of Midway.
Truly on the fence between this is a total overreaction and 48 out if 30 million have this or that its simply not worth it.
Just left NYC two days early. A veritable ghost town. Eery.
a stat I saw in the Atlantic that should put things into perspective:
2 weeks ago: Italy had 322 confirmed cases of the coronavirus
1 week ago: 2,502
Today: 10,149
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 11, 2020, 05:41:24 PM
a stat I saw in the Atlantic that should put things into perspective:
2 weeks ago: Italy had 322 confirmed cases of the coronavirus
1 week ago: 2,502
Today: 10,149
And their hospitals are at near capacity in certain areas with cases jumping to 12k today and no flattening in their disease curve. It will continue to get worse.
But to those that think this is a stupid overreaction, go and hangout in the small concourses of MSG with a bunch of other people. After all it's only a 45 min metro ride from New Rochelle.
6 AM out of MKE tomorrow. Ready to cancel but waiting for the announcement.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Ill pay for you to visit a hotspot and then see if its a joke.
Big Ten and Big 12 will not have fans starting on Thursday.
Quote from: MU24 on March 11, 2020, 06:16:04 PM
Ill pay for you to visit a hotspot and then see if its a joke.
Listen to me carefully...people who have compromised immune systems(underlying conditions) and the elderly are MOST at risk. Everyone else for the most part recovers perfectly fine. That's why I don't understand all the hysteria. Most of the problem is in Italy. is this Italy?? Nope.
I suggest everyone lock your doors, don't go to work, don't go buy groceries or anything. heck, do NOT even step outside, and go to amazon and buy a bubble to live in...oh and wash your hands.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Jealousy is such a sad and dangerous thing.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
Listen to me carefully...people who have compromised immune systems(underlying conditions) and the elderly are MOST at risk. Everyone else for the most part recovers perfectly fine. That's why I don't understand all the hysteria. Most of the problem is in Italy. is this Italy?? Nope.
I suggest everyone lock your doors, don't go to work, don't go buy groceries or anything. heck, do NOT even step outside, and go to amazon and buy a bubble to live in...oh and wash your hands.
Why is this not Italy?
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
Listen to me carefully...people who have compromised immune systems(underlying conditions) and the elderly are MOST at risk. Everyone else for the most part recovers perfectly fine. That's why I don't understand all the hysteria. Most of the problem is in Italy. is this Italy?? Nope.
I suggest everyone lock your doors, don't go to work, don't go buy groceries or anything. heck, do NOT even step outside, and go to amazon and buy a bubble to live in...oh and wash your hands.
This is pretty f ucked up. Basically us middle age and young folk should say screw it will survie it anyways. Well with this attitude this thing spreads like wild fire and inevitably more older folks will be at risk and get the virus. Its impossible for many older folks to never even set foot outside. So nice basically saying you dont care more ppl die. As long we got basketball crowds! Sick! No pun intended.
Also did you just see holes post. 2 weeks ago there 220 confirmed cases. In italy Today 11k . So we aint safe by any means rn
25% of the population of Italy is over the age of 63-65..in other words lots of old people who have pre-existing conditions that the virus can have a deadly effect.
Only 15 % in the US, so we shouldn't care that they get sick or that they clog the hospitals so that when a younger person needs other medical attention, there are no resources available.
People are so short sighted.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
It's a global political conspiracy!! The fact you'd post this is evidence you're a big enough moron to believe that narrative.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 11, 2020, 06:44:16 PM
This is pretty f ucked up. Basically us middle age and young folk should say screw it will survie it anyways. Well with this attitude this thing spreads like wild fire and inevitably more older folks will be at risk and get the virus. Its impossible for many older folks to never even set foot outside. So nice basically saying you dont care more ppl die. As long we got basketball crowds! Sick! No pun intended.
Also did you just see holes post. 2 weeks ago there 220 confirmed cases. In italy Today 11k . So we aint safe by any means rn
For a little perspective...my dad is 78, he is at high risk just because of his age. I asked him if he's going to do anything different(already knowing what his answer would be). He said "absolutely not, this thing is ridiculous". I said, well what if you get it?? he said "then I get it". I said "you could die". He said "I'm 78 yrs old, how much longer am I going to live anyway, if I get it and die, well so what"??
Funny until this very moment I thought Guru was square in the high risk category.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 06:56:27 PM
For a little perspective...my dad is 78, he is at high risk just because of his age. I asked him if he's going to do anything different(already knowing what his answer would be). He said "absolutely not, this thing is ridiculous". I said, well what if you get it?? he said "then I get it". I said "you could die". He said "I'm 78 yrs old, how much longer am I going to live anyway, if I get it and die, well so what"??
Does your dad speak for everyone over 60 then. Glad ur dad dont care if he gets a life threatening illness. He dont care if he gets it and spreads it more eh
Quote from: Johnny B on March 11, 2020, 07:01:22 PM
Does your dad speak for everyone over 60 then. Glad ur dad dont care if he gets a life threatening illness. He dont care if he gets it and spreads it more eh
No, but my dad is an extremely intelligent guy..and I'm not saying that just because he's my dad. He knows that, the media and everyone else is over reacting. as he said, many thousand die of the flu every year, we don't hear about that though. A lot of this same thing happened when SAARS was a thing, it was completely overblown. So was the swine flu, and typically almost all these things are..it's just the way it is. People play on people's fears. It works to a "T".
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
Listen to me carefully...
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Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
No, but my dad is an extremely intelligent guy..and I'm not saying that just because he's my dad. He knows that, the media and everyone else is over reacting. as he said, many thousand die of the flu every year, we don't hear about that though. A lot of this same thing happened when SAARS was a thing, it was completely overblown. So was the swine flu, and typically almost all these things are..it's just the way it is. People play on people's fears. It works to a "T".
LOL. Actually it looks as though people aren't operating out of fear at all. They are making rational decisions given the information at hand.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
No, but my dad is an extremely intelligent guy..and I'm not saying that just because he's my dad. He knows that, the media and everyone else is over reacting. as he said, many thousand die of the flu every year, we don't hear about that though. A lot of this same thing happened when SAARS was a thing, it was completely overblown. So was the swine flu, and typically almost all these things are..it's just the way it is. People play on people's fears. It works to a "T".
I can't get enough of this sh1t. Someone just said we shouldn't worry about this pandemic because his 78 year old dad is really smart and doesn't care if he dies.
My dad is about that old. I don't know how smart he is, but he is a great grandfather and I'd really like him to get another 10 years with my kids.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
No, but my dad is an extremely intelligent guy..and I'm not saying that just because he's my dad. He knows that, the media and everyone else is over reacting. as he said, many thousand die of the flu every year, we don't hear about that though. A lot of this same thing happened when SAARS was a thing, it was completely overblown. So was the swine flu, and typically almost all these things are..it's just the way it is. People play on people's fears. It works to a "T".
Oh sh1t. You're the same guy that was all macho about football and ripping on soccer.
Tell me you are a true man and smoke a pack a day between a can of chew.
You're awesome.
Quote from: avid1010 on March 11, 2020, 07:25:03 PM
I can't get enough of this sh1t. Someone just said we shouldn't worry about this pandemic because his 78 year old dad is really smart and doesn't care if he dies.
My dad is about that old. I don't know how smart he is, but he is a great grandfather and I'd really like him to get another 10 years with my kids.
Some people would rather say their dad doesn't mind dying than admit they're wrong. I know. It's wierd.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 07:28:47 PM
Some people would rather say their dad doesn't mind dying than admit they're wrong. I know. It's wierd.
Yeah...I need to stop messing with him. Probably has some issues beyond his control.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 11, 2020, 06:44:16 PM
This is pretty f ucked up. Basically us middle age and young folk should say screw it will survie it anyways. Well with this attitude this thing spreads like wild fire and inevitably more older folks will be at risk and get the virus. Its impossible for many older folks to never even set foot outside. So nice basically saying you dont care more ppl die. As long we got basketball crowds! Sick! No pun intended.
Also did you just see holes post. 2 weeks ago there 220 confirmed cases. In italy Today 11k . So we aint safe by any means rn
I mean, I think its pretty obvious that guru only cares about himself and Marquette basketball. That's it. That's his existence.
At this point most fans are already in NY. There is little to no benefit in banning fans. They missed their opportunity to make a proactive decision.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 11, 2020, 06:58:32 PM
Funny until this very moment I thought Guru was square in the high risk category.
Same. I'm frankly shocked.
Really sucks for those of you with flights out tomorrow. What a shitty situation.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Keep watching Fox. It will make you feel better if you get sick knowing it's all a hoax.
Remember when everyone thought guru was a douche just because of his basketball posts? Good times, good times.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
my dad is an extremely intelligent guy..
...these things tend to skip a generation.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 11, 2020, 07:41:42 PM
Really sucks for those of you with flights out tomorrow. What a crapty situation.
Friend of mine in NYC for business the last two weeks...investment banking...said it is freaky...empty restaurants, etc... His employer not allowing him back to work for 2 weeks after he returns.
Quote from: avid1010 on March 11, 2020, 07:25:03 PM
I can't get enough of this sh1t. Someone just said we shouldn't worry about this pandemic because his 78 year old dad is really smart and doesn't care if he dies.
My dad is about that old. I don't know how smart he is, but he is a great grandfather and I'd really like him to get another 10 years with my kids.
Lots of ignorance.
Gonna guess Val announces no fans after today.
Pretty much every other major conference has done that
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Found the Russian.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 11, 2020, 07:42:16 PM
Keep watching Fox. It will make you feel better if you get sick knowing it's all a hoax.
People should actually do more of this...if they did, people might be more knowledgeable about things then believing everything they hear see on CNN/MSNBC.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:05:09 PM
People should actually do more of this...if they did, people might be more knowledgeable about things then believing everything they hear see on CNN/MSNBC.
Tell me how you interpreted what Trump is/just said? This is fascinating.
Quote from: forgetful on March 11, 2020, 07:38:21 PM
At this point most fans are already in NY. There is little to no benefit in banning fans. They missed their opportunity to make a proactive decision.
Other posts seem to indicate that NYC is a ghost town, and many fans of teams starting tomorrow (including many MU fans) may be planning to travel tomorrow. Seems like there is still a small window to announce, and mitigate travel woes.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:05:09 PM
People should actually do more of this...if they did, people might be more knowledgeable about things then believing everything they hear see on CNN/MSNBC.
Actually I watch BBC. Keep watching Fox. It will serve you well.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 11, 2020, 08:11:28 PM
Actually I watch BBC. Keep watching Fox. It will serve you well.
Lol. How about Cheddar News.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:05:09 PM
People should actually do more of this...if they did, people might be more knowledgeable about things then believing everything they hear see on CNN/MSNBC.
So apparently we are restricting all travel from Europe to the United States.
I'd like to see how you manage to maintain your theory that this entire thing is an overreaction by the press now.
Trump bans travel from Europe...what a whimp...hey Guru.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 08:14:45 PM
So apparently we are restricting all travel from Europe to the United States.
I'd like to see how you manage to maintain your theory that this entire thing is an overreaction by the press now.
The press has NOT helped the pure absolute panic that has set in for people like you on this thing. I picture you cowered in a corner, shaking uncontrollably and chanting "make it stop, please make it stop". Did we get thru SAARS?? The swine flu?? The answer is unequivocally yes. And what were the common themes in all of these?? Media hysteria prompting more fears than necessary. I have ZERO issues with being cautious, that should be a given regardless if there's a pandemic or not.
What I find absolutely disgraceful is the absolute panic and fear people are having right now. Like people are literally terrified...your posts indicate you are(you'll deny it) as do other posts on this board. I mean c'mon people, are you this terrified of getting cancer, or walking across a street and getting hit by a car, or getting herpes and passing that on to someone?? Are we going to live the rest of our lives in fear??
To hear a lot of you talk about this, I swear you all TRULY believe this is going to wipe out the planet..we will all die from this, and it's not IF just when. That's because people hear things in the media, and they buy into it. That's what bothers me.
Uh oh...quick everyone PANIC and freak out more than you already are!
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
· 2m
Utah Jazz All-Star Rudy Gobert has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
Sources say Gobert is feeling good, strong and stable — and was feeling strong enough to play tonight.
Who'd have thunk it, the way this board is terrified of this thing.
My lord.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:30:06 PM
The press has NOT helped the pure absolute panic that has set in for people like you on this thing. I picture you cowered in a corner, shaking uncontrollably and chanting "make it stop, please make it stop". Did we get thru SAARS?? The swine flu?? The answer is unequivocally yes. And what were the common themes in all of these?? Media hysteria prompting more fears than necessary. I have ZERO issues with being cautious, that should be a given regardless if there's a pandemic or not.
What I find absolutely disgraceful is the absolute panic and fear people are having right now. Like people are literally terrified...your posts indicate you are(you'll deny it) as do other posts on this board. I mean c'mon people, are you this terrified of getting cancer, or walking across a street and getting hit by a car, or getting herpes and passing that on to someone?? Are we going to live the rest of our lives in fear??
To hear a lot of you talk about this, I swear you all TRULY believe this is going to wipe out the planet..we will all die from this, and it's not IF just when. That's because people hear things in the media, and they buy into it. That's what bothers me.
Three paragraphs and you ignored my point entirely. Congrats.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:33:02 PM
Uh oh...quick everyone PANIC and freak out more than you already are!
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
· 2m
Utah Jazz All-Star Rudy Gobert has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
Sources say Gobert is feeling good, strong and stable — and was feeling strong enough to play tonight.
Who'd have thunk it, the way this board is terrified of this thing.
Pretty much everyone understands how serious this is except for you. You're pretty much alone on your little island of the ignorant. Good job.
I wonder if they'll just end the BET after tonight.
Tom Hanks and his wife test positive for coronavirus:
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-03-11/tom-hanks-and-rita-wilson-test-positive-for-coronavirus
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
I wonder if they'll just end the BET after tonight.
Wouldn't shock me. Nba done. Ncca maybe as well sad
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 08:34:04 PM
Three paragraphs and you ignored my point entirely. Congrats.
No, I get your fucking point...you have been pounding it home...you worry about giving it to someone else..That being said, i ask respectfully that you answer the following questions:
1. If you don't know that you have it, and are worried about possibly passing it on, why are you leaving your house at all, to do anything. If you're THAT worried and fearful about giving it to someone else, don't be around ANYONE, right??
2. How can you be worried about passing it on, if you don't even know you have it?? Now if you're 100% sure you have it, that is a TOTALLY different thing, and why I talk about the fear mongering that is going on right now. People just need to rela...really, they do.
3. If you're around say 50,000 people and later on it's found out more people got it, you would have ZERO way of knowing if you were the one that they got it from. Odds are, someone else was there that had it to, maybe it came from them?? Don't shake people's hands etc, and it's almost impossible to pass it on. Again, the fear mongering, people are acting like if they breathe on someone they could possibly pass this on. It's NOT airborne.
4. If you passed on a mutation of some sort to one of your kids(unknowingly, until much later on) sure you wouldn't like it, none of us would, but at that point, what can you do about it?? The only way to prevent it is to NOT have kids. In this case, the ONLY way to make sure this doesn't spread more, is to shut the world down...literally, don't let people go anywhere. Does that seem reasonable to you?? Or do we still have to live our lives??
I might have it. I don't think I do so I just need to live my life and minimizing risks. Sticking close to home. Not going to events with big crowds. It's not permanent. Hopefully for the next month or so.
That's the thing. The incubation period starts before symptoms show up. So you and I could both have it and have passed it along already.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:49:37 PM
No, I get your unnatural carnal knowledgeing point...you have been pounding it home...you worry about giving it to someone else..That being said, i ask respectfully that you answer the following questions:
1. If you don't know that you have it, and are worried about possibly passing it on, why are you leaving your house at all, to do anything. If you're THAT worried and fearful about giving it to someone else, don't be around ANYONE, right??
2. How can you be worried about passing it on, if you don't even know you have it?? Now if you're 100% sure you have it, that is a TOTALLY different thing, and why I talk about the fear mongering that is going on right now. People just need to rela...really, they do.
3. If you're around say 50,000 people and later on it's found out more people got it, you would have ZERO way of knowing if you were the one that they got it from. Odds are, someone else was there that had it to, maybe it came from them?? Don't shake people's hands etc, and it's almost impossible to pass it on. Again, the fear mongering, people are acting like if they breathe on someone they could possibly pass this on. It's NOT airborne.
4. If you passed on a mutation of some sort to one of your kids(unknowingly, until much later on) sure you wouldn't like it, none of us would, but at that point, what can you do about it?? The only way to prevent it is to NOT have kids. In this case, the ONLY way to make sure this doesn't spread more, is to shut the world down...literally, don't let people go anywhere. Does that seem reasonable to you?? Or do we still have to live our lives??
Shut up!!!!
Just stop your madness.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 08:54:56 PM
I might have it. I don't think I do so I just need to live my life and minimizing risks. Sticking close to home. Not going to events with big crowds. It's not permanent. Hopefully for the next month or so.
That's the thing. The incubation period starts before symptoms show up. So you and I could both have it and have passed it along already.
Sure, but if we have...it's not like we did it intentionally right?? There's absolutely ZERO would could do about it. It sucks sure, but you know what?? The VAST majority of people that get it end up being just fine anyway.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:33:02 PM
Uh oh...quick everyone PANIC and freak out more than you already are!
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
· 2m
Utah Jazz All-Star Rudy Gobert has tested positive for coronavirus, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
Sources say Gobert is feeling good, strong and stable — and was feeling strong enough to play tonight.
Who'd have thunk it, the way this board is terrified of this thing.
It doesn't matter how he feels. He may infect others, whose bodies may not react as well as his has.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
I wonder if they'll just end the BET after tonight.
They should, its time. These are unpaid college kids.
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 08:30:06 PM
The press has NOT helped the pure absolute panic that has set in for people like you on this thing. I picture you cowered in a corner, shaking uncontrollably and chanting "make it stop, please make it stop". Did we get thru SAARS?? The swine flu?? The answer is unequivocally yes. And what were the common themes in all of these?? Media hysteria prompting more fears than necessary. I have ZERO issues with being cautious, that should be a given regardless if there's a pandemic or not.
What I find absolutely disgraceful is the absolute panic and fear people are having right now. Like people are literally terrified...your posts indicate you are(you'll deny it) as do other posts on this board. I mean c'mon people, are you this terrified of getting cancer, or walking across a street and getting hit by a car, or getting herpes and passing that on to someone?? Are we going to live the rest of our lives in fear??
To hear a lot of you talk about this, I swear you all TRULY believe this is going to wipe out the planet..we will all die from this, and it's not IF just when. That's because people hear things in the media, and they buy into it. That's what bothers me.
See...this is where I get pissed. This is a big deal...lots of people in the US are going to die...the market is crashing...everything is coming to a hault. You were so fucking wrong, so now you say everyone is acting like everyone is going to die. EVERYONE with a brain knows only the elderly and those with weak ammune systems are likely to be effected. At this point you are no longer funny...you become dangerous. Quit moving goal posts...there is a reason not a single fucking person is backing you. Not Trump, not Fox News. So tell me how many you expect to die from this, and if this is a big deal. Better yet...tell my dad who is in a battle for his life with cancer or my baby girls who spent months in the NICU. Dumbass.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 11, 2020, 08:11:28 PM
Actually I watch BBC. Keep watching Fox. It will serve you well.
Actually is there a news outlet that all sides can agree is objective? Serious question because I would watch it. I go back and forth between CNN and Fox and laugh at how bad both are. Completely different information. Its actually disturbing and I shouldn't laugh.
I would love to know a good channel to watch. If there is not one, don't you think a new network would make a killing if it was known for objectivity?
Quote from: muguru on March 11, 2020, 09:02:43 PM
Sure, but if we have...it's not like we did it intentionally right?? There's absolutely ZERO would could do about it. It sucks sure, but you know what?? The VAST majority of people that get it end up being just fine anyway.
<sigh>
The point is that limiting social interaction limits the spread.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 09:12:51 PM
Actually is there a news outlet that all sides can agree is objective? Serious question because I would watch it. I go back and forth between CNN and Fox and laugh at how bad both are. Completely different information. Its actually disturbing and I shouldn't laugh.
I would love to know a good channel to watch. If there is not one, don't you think a new network would make a killing if it was known for objectivity?
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/?v=402f03a963ba
Quote from: avid1010 on March 11, 2020, 09:05:39 PM
See...this is where I get pissed. This is a big deal...lots of people in the US are going to die...the market is crashing...everything is coming to a hault. You were so unnatural carnal knowledgeing wrong, so now you say everyone is acting like everyone is going to die. EVERYONE with a brain knows only the elderly and those with weak ammune systems are likely to be effected. At this point you are no longer funny...you become dangerous. Quit moving goal posts...there is a reason not a single unnatural carnal knowledgeing person is backing you. Not Trump, not Fox News. So tell me how many you expect to die from this, and if this is a big deal. Better yet...tell my dad who is in a battle for his life with cancer or my baby girls who spent months in the NICU. Dumbass.
Is that chart semi legit? I just have to watch ABC or BBC or listen to NPR?
https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1237925985913315328?s=20
No fans for remainder of BET
Surprised they didn't just cancel the entire tournament.
Quote from: marquette09 on March 11, 2020, 09:28:10 PM
Surprised they didn't just cancel the entire tournament.
Yet
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Is that chart semi legit? I just have to watch ABC or BBC or listen to NPR?
Are you doing a bit or actually asking this in earnest?
Im sorry, but I really think, in all seriousness, Guru needs a vacation/Quarintine from Scoop ! ! ! Just Sayin'... :-[
I assume they will.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 11, 2020, 08:45:09 PM
I wonder if they'll just end the BET after tonight.
Quote from: hepennypacker5000 on March 11, 2020, 09:38:39 PM
Are you doing a bit or actually asking this in earnest?
Actually asking. I'm a pretty neutral person politically and I believe CNN and Fox are so opposite that a station right down the middle would be a money maker. I would like to form my own opinions about the facts.
I read a ton as well. Too many news outlets. I'm just curious what others think might be an objective news outlet.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 10:15:25 PM
Actually asking. I'm a pretty neutral person politically and I believe CNN and Fox are so opposite that a station right down the middle would be a money maker. I would like to form my own opinions about the facts.
I read a ton as well. Too many news outlets. I'm just curious what others think might be an objective news outlet.
The best you can probably find is the niche financial news outlets, e.g., Bloomberg. Since money is on the line, they have an incentive to get things right, report on things that could hurt your wealth, etc.
I don't think there's a big enough market for a broad, "right down the middle" news channel. You can (and will) always be flanked from either side, right or left.
IMO, Brookings is "right down the middle" but people say it's biased. Whaddayagonnado?
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 10:15:25 PM
Actually asking. I'm a pretty neutral person politically and I believe CNN and Fox are so opposite that a station right down the middle would be a money maker. I would like to form my own opinions about the facts.
Actually, CNN and MSNBC are complete opposites. CNN is pretty centrist - and also pretty boring. I've been in lots of corporate offices where the screens in their cafeterias run CNN. Too many complaints from one side or the other if one of the other two channels are running. Nobody pays attention to CNN.
Quote from: Eldon on March 11, 2020, 10:37:27 PM
The best you can probably find is the niche financial news outlets, e.g., Bloomberg. Since money is on the line, they have an incentive to get things right, report on things that could hurt your wealth, etc.
I don't think there's a big enough market for a broad, "right down the middle" news channel. You can (and will) always be flanked from either side, right or left.
IMO, Brookings is "right down the middle" but people say it's biased. Whaddayagonnado?
Thanks. I suppose this should not be in this thread or in "hanging at the AL". I'll stop posting about it.
I'd try sneaking two rounds in tomorrow (Thursday) then finals early on Friday.
Get everyone out a day and a half early.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28888296/sources-nebraska-coach-fred-hoiberg-hospitalized
This may change the calculus if it turns out this is Covid.
I'm basically an eternal optimist but it's easy to tell this is done. There may be games this weekend but I'd be shocked if there was an NCAA tournament.
I'd guess we hear soon that games are cancelled tomorrow.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 11, 2020, 11:05:26 PM
I'm basically an eternal optimist but it's easy to tell this is done. There may be games this weekend but I'd be shocked if there was an NCAA tournament.
I'd guess we hear soon that games are cancelled tomorrow.
Yah, this this isn't happening. Maybe survives another day if Hoiberg tests negative for it, but if he's positive it's over. Even if he's negative, it's likely just a matter of 24-48 hours before someone affiliated with a team does test positive, then it's over.
It sucks, and I hope I'm wrong. Just don't see how they can allow this to continue. I also don't think delaying it is very realistic.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 11, 2020, 11:08:55 PM
Yah, this this isn't happening. Maybe survives another day if Hoiberg tests negative for it, but if he's positive it's over. Even if he's negative, it's likely just a matter of 24-48 hours before someone affiliated with a team does test positive, then it's over.
It sucks, and I hope I'm wrong. Just don't see how they can allow this to continue. I also don't think delaying it is very realistic.
Why would it be unrealistic to delay it? Sure, it might be challenging, and there might be some games that would be played in smaller arenas, but I don't think it would be too tough to figure out. Maybe first and second round games just get played on campus instead of central sites.
Broadcasting the games and getting referees could get tricky, but I bet the smart folks over at CBS and the NCAA could put their heads together (figuratively, of course!) to work something out.
Do you think they'll play on Thursday
Hoiberg testing positive may lead to the cancellation of the B10 tournament but not necessarily the BET unless there is a BE team connection to him.
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 11, 2020, 09:17:46 PM
https://www.adfontesmedia.com/?v=402f03a963ba
I regularly read the AP and the NYTimes because they have always been balanced, so I'm glad this chart shows both smack in the middle.
Best case scenario would be get the conference tourneys in this weekend in empty gyms, get your field set, and suspend it for a month in the hopes that things settle down and you can at least play the NCAA Tournament in some practice gyms by then.
Still think that's wishful thinking.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Is that chart semi legit? I just have to watch ABC or BBC or listen to NPR?
NPR is awesome for in the car.
Jazz (Gobert) played at MSG last week.
Quote from: LCDutchman on March 11, 2020, 04:23:19 PM
I wish I could go and get a cheap ticket. What a bunch of idiots. This is a total joke and overreaction for political purposes. Started in the Ivy League. Amazing group of losers.
Exhibit "A"
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 10:15:25 PM
Actually asking. I'm a pretty neutral person politically and I believe CNN and Fox are so opposite that a station right down the middle would be a money maker. I would like to form my own opinions about the facts.
I read a ton as well. Too many news outlets. I'm just curious what others think might be an objective news outlet.
You may want to check out the "Sinclair Group."
Really not understanding how the conferences are letting these games continue. These are useless tournaments to begin with, and with the NBA and (likely) NHL going on hiatus, it just looks wrong.
Well, on to basketball.
Lines for today.
Creighton -5.5 over St. John's
Butler -1.5 over Providence
Villanova -10 over DePaul
Seton Hall -3.5 over Marquette
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 11, 2020, 09:21:15 PM
Is that chart semi legit? I just have to watch ABC or BBC or listen to NPR?
No. That chart has its own biases like any other. Where human beings are involved biases will exist
Leans left. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/all-generalizations-are-false-ad-fontes-media/
Columbia Journalism Review mentions the chart and human biases involved with these type of approaches.
https://www.cjr.org/innovations/measure-media-bias-partisan.php
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 11, 2020, 11:58:15 PM
Hoiberg testing positive may lead to the cancellation of the B10 tournament but not necessarily the BET unless there is a BE team connection to him.
Hoiberg has the flu. He was checked before the game and cleared.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 09:25:44 AM
Really not understanding how the conferences are letting these games continue. These are useless tournaments to begin with, and with the NBA and (likely) NHL going on hiatus, it just looks wrong.
Its likely going to take a player or coach testing positive. That may happen today, it may happen tomorrow, it may happen next week. But I'd be shocked if we got to April 6th without a player testing positive.
I am selfishly okay with play continuing, and hope they get everything in. But the odds just seem so long after yesterday.
Frankly, I am not sure sending all these kids back to their college campuses or even home to their parents solves a whole lot either. If any are infected, they're likely going from heavier populated area, to less populated areas (if heading home), so it could just spread the virus quicker. At this point, these games and arenas are going to be so contained, that frankly it may be the safest place for them. But obviously the games don't go on forever.
Very strange times.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2020, 09:41:24 AM
Hoiberg has the flu. He was checked before the game and cleared.
Yah, obviously if he tested positive, it would have all been over.
The Jazz were at MSG 10 days ago. Another player tested positive and Gobert was making a joke of it before he was diagnosed by touching everything. I'd be shocked if the BET happens.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 09:25:44 AM
Really not understanding how the conferences are letting these games continue. These are useless tournaments to begin with, and with the NBA and (likely) NHL going on hiatus, it just looks wrong.
Overreaction fluffy. Two teams playing hoops in an empty stadium has to be in the bottom 1 percentile of unhealthy activities during this situation. Relax francis
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 10:07:52 AM
Overreaction fluffy. Two teams playing hoops in an empty stadium has to be in the bottom 1 percentile of unhealthy activities during this situation. Relax francis
Disagree. If a player has this virus (and at this point its unreasonable to think none do) its difficult to think of an activity more conducive to spreading it than playing competitive basketball.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2020, 09:45:20 AM
Its likely going to take a player or coach testing positive. That may happen today, it may happen tomorrow, it may happen next week. But I'd be shocked if we got to April 6th without a player testing positive.
I am selfishly okay with play continuing, and hope they get everything in. But the odds just seem so long after yesterday.
Frankly, I am not sure sending all these kids back to their college campuses or even home to their parents solves a whole lot either. If any are infected, they're likely going from heavier populated area, to less populated areas (if heading home), so it could just spread the virus quicker. At this point, these games and arenas are going to be so contained, that frankly it may be the safest place for them. But obviously the games don't go on forever.
Very strange times.
Thats basically my thought as well. Ending the games, doesnt mean that all these kids are not going to be in other areas to be infected.
If done properly you could actually quaratine teams pretty well on the road and have them just focus on hoops.
The issue tho is its highly unlikely that not a single player/coach on any team is not yet infected. Theres gotta be a few.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 12, 2020, 10:15:25 AM
Thats basically my thought as well. Ending the games, doesnt mean that all these kids are not going to be in other areas to be infected.
If done properly you could actually quaratine teams pretty well on the road and have them just focus on hoops.
The issue tho is its highly unlikely that not a single player/coach on any team is not yet infected. Theres gotta be a few.
Thankfully the pool of teams decreases by the day. But even if say - a guy from Gtown tests positive next Tuesday - I think they still have to call everything off because he's been in contact with several teams still alive, etc.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 10:07:52 AM
Overreaction fluffy. Two teams playing hoops in an empty stadium has to be in the bottom 1 percentile of unhealthy activities during this situation. Relax francis
Nope. The best thing to do would be to get back to campus.
Tournaments are dropping like flies.
I agree with the decision to play at least one game, especially if the rule is that the auto bid goes to the team that wins the last game. Currently that's DePaul.
Quote from: slack00 on March 12, 2020, 11:03:35 AM
I agree with the decision to play at least one game, especially if the rule is that the auto bid goes to the team that wins the last game. Currently that's DePaul.
Lol - that can't possibly be the ruling.
(https://i.ibb.co/8zZJ8Jc/CoM-III.jpg)
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2020, 11:08:41 AM
Lol - that can't possibly be the ruling.
I can't imagine it truly is.
I can't believe the BE is playing. I think they're it.
What's the point with every other tournament cancelled?
Acc still going. Only semi notable conference. Bizzare.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2020, 11:22:05 AM
I can't believe the BE is playing. I think they're it.
What's the point with every other tournament cancelled?
Big Sky and Big West are on as of now.
ACC and Pac 12 cancelled. BE is only one left.
Acc done nvm..
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 12, 2020, 10:13:43 AM
Disagree. If a player has this virus (and at this point its unreasonable to think none do) its difficult to think of an activity more conducive to spreading it than playing competitive basketball.
Why is it unreasonable to think that no players have the virus? Even China at its peak had an infection rate of less than 1/100th of percent of the population. Italy now is around 1/50th of a percent of the population infected. And the US has 1,200 cases out of 300 million people. Where in these rates would you find it probable that someone involved with the BET is infected?
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 12, 2020, 10:13:43 AM
Disagree. If a player has this virus (and at this point its unreasonable to think none do) its difficult to think of an activity more conducive to spreading it than playing competitive basketball.
Ur saying a player prolly has it because .00001% of the American population is positive? Ok good math
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 11:46:53 AM
Why is it unreasonable to think that no players have the virus? Even China at its peak had an infection rate of less than 1/100th of percent of the population. Italy now is around 1/50th of a percent of the population infected. And the US has 1,200 cases out of 300 million people. Where in these rates would you find it probable that someone involved with the BET is infected?
Thank you.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 11:46:53 AM
Why is it unreasonable to think that no players have the virus? Even China at its peak had an infection rate of less than 1/100th of percent of the population. Italy now is around 1/50th of a percent of the population infected. And the US has 1,200 cases out of 300 million people. Where in these rates would you find it probable that someone involved with the BET is infected?
that's only because we have so few testing kits, thanks to governmental incompetence, that we don't actually know how many people are infected. I guarantee the infection rate is far higher.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 11:46:53 AM
Why is it unreasonable to think that no players have the virus? Even China at its peak had an infection rate of less than 1/100th of percent of the population. Italy now is around 1/50th of a percent of the population infected. And the US has 1,200 cases out of 300 million people. Where in these rates would you find it probable that someone involved with the BET is infected?
Correct the assumption is beyond dumb
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 11:46:53 AM
Why is it unreasonable to think that no players have the virus? Even China at its peak had an infection rate of less than 1/100th of percent of the population. Italy now is around 1/50th of a percent of the population infected. And the US has 1,200 cases out of 300 million people. Where in these rates would you find it probable that someone involved with the BET is infected?
I think someone who is in the building right now unknowingly has the disease. MSG is near a hot zone of infection, the disease is transmitted easily, etc. China didn't get as widespread as it could have because they were absolutely authoritarian on how they managed it.
Butler and Providence (Game 2) told to wait at hotel. Could be shutting down shortly.
My guess is the Johnnies and Creighton game is cancelled at half time and the BET with it.
Sounds like BET will be cancelled at half time per the talking heads on twitter.
Good. Terrible look for the BE to try to forge ahead while all other major conferences cancel.
Rumors that it was Dolan being an ass and insisting on full rent and anticipated revenue share. Just a rumor on Twitter FWIW.
BET is cancelled. Per multiple sources on twitter.
RIP NCAA 2020. Sucks.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2020, 11:59:42 AM
BET is cancelled. Per multiple sources on twitter.
RIP NCAA 2020. Sucks.
Just confirmed on FS1.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 11:52:37 AM
I think someone who is in the building right now unknowingly has the disease. MSG is near a hot zone of infection, the disease is transmitted easily, etc. China didn't get as widespread as it could have because they were absolutely authoritarian on how they managed it.
Looking at infection rates in all countries with reported cases, why would you think there's a chance that someone in MSG has the virus? And how easily is the disease really transmitted? Didn't we just see that only 1 other NBA player tested positive after the Gobert test? Guys that have been in close contact with him for an extended period of time are testing negative.
Precautionary measure are logical and likely necessary to prevent the spread of the disease from people who don't know they have it. But all these wild assumptions about massive infection rates and exponential spreading don't seem based in the reality we've actually experienced globally.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 12:01:19 PM
Looking at infection rates in all countries with reported cases, why would you think there's a chance that someone in MSG has the virus? And how easily is the disease really transmitted? Didn't we just see that only 1 other NBA player tested positive after the Gobert test? Guys that have been in close contact with him for an extended period of time are testing negative.
Precautionary measure are logical and likely necessary to prevent the spread of the disease from people who don't know they have it. But all these wild assumptions about massive infection rates and exponential spreading don't seem based in the reality we've actually experienced globally.
Gee.......maybe because action was taken and there's information out there?
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 12:01:19 PM
Looking at infection rates in all countries with reported cases, why would you think there's a chance that someone in MSG has the virus? And how easily is the disease really transmitted? Didn't we just see that only 1 other NBA player tested positive after the Gobert test? Guys that have been in close contact with him for an extended period of time are testing negative.
Precautionary measure are logical and likely necessary to prevent the spread of the disease from people who don't know they have it. But all these wild assumptions about massive infection rates and exponential spreading don't seem based in the reality we've actually experienced globally.
I explained why I believe this. You believe otherwise.
And using the Utah Jazz as some sort of representative of how easily this is transmitted is beyond dumb.
Crazy to think I just watched the last minutes of college basketball for the 2019-2020 season
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 12:01:19 PM
Looking at infection rates in all countries with reported cases, why would you think there's a chance that someone in MSG has the virus? And how easily is the disease really transmitted? Didn't we just see that only 1 other NBA player tested positive after the Gobert test? Guys that have been in close contact with him for an extended period of time are testing negative.
Precautionary measure are logical and likely necessary to prevent the spread of the disease from people who don't know they have it. But all these wild assumptions about massive infection rates and exponential spreading don't seem based in the reality we've actually experienced globally.
Yet. This disease has doubled every 6-10 days in its infancy.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 12:05:32 PM
I explained why I believe this. You believe otherwise.
And using the Utah Jazz as some sort of representative of how easily this is transmitted is beyond dumb.
Wait, using an actual case with a high rate of tested people to understand the rate of transmission is beyond dumb? How does that work? Sure, these guys are probably healthier than the average person, but I don't know of any other scenarios where such a high concentration of people have been tested that have been exposed to the virus.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 11:51:49 AM
that's only because we have so few testing kits, thanks to governmental incompetence, that we don't actually know how many people are infected. I guarantee the infection rate is far higher.
Billy u are an idiot, had u been president or whomever is in charge of Corona virus testing how many test kids would u have ordered to have had had on shelves two months ago? Or are millions of test kits able to be produced daily? Plz mr monday morning quarterback tell us manufacturing capacity, lead times and everything u would have done differently
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 09:25:44 AM
Really not understanding how the conferences are letting these games continue. These are useless tournaments to begin with, and with the NBA and (likely) NHL going on hiatus, it just looks wrong.
Basically, 3 reasons.
1. $
2. $$$
3. $$$$$
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
Billy u are an idiot, had u been president or whomever is in charge of Corona virus testing how many test kids would u have ordered to have had had on shelves two months ago? Or are millions of test kits able to be produced daily? Plz mr monday morning quarterback tell us manufacturing capacity, lead times and everything u would have done differently
Certainly more than S. Korea had. They are testing more people EVERY DAY than the total that we have tested in this country since the beginning out the outbreak.
For political reasons we rejected testing kits from wHO and just decided a miracle was gonna occur. Nothing to worry about. In a day or two we will be down to zero cases.
I am a physician. I have ordered the test a few times in the last week. All of this is such an over reaction. In the past 2 weeks I have had patients + flu die with no concerns at all. This is all over blown by the media and no noone can actually make a informed decision due to "optics".
Quote from: MUBurrow on March 12, 2020, 10:13:43 AM
Disagree. If a player has this virus (and at this point its unreasonable to think none do) its difficult to think of an activity more conducive to spreading it than playing competitive basketball.
Absolutely, just thinking the basketball itself is like a big rolling snowball gathering germs during the game.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 11:58:15 AM
Rumors that it was Dolan being an ass and insisting on full rent and anticipated revenue share. Just a rumor on Twitter FWIW.
The Knicks were one of 3 teams pushing the NBA to keep allowing fans to come.
Quote from: geagles10 on March 12, 2020, 12:18:28 PM
I am a physician. I have ordered the test a few times in the last week. All of this is such an over reaction. In the past 2 weeks I have had patients + flu die with no concerns at all. This is all over blown by the media and no noone can actually make a informed decision due to "optics".
Work in the healthcare field. Absolute over reaction. But will be effective in stopping the spread.
Quote from: Jockey on March 12, 2020, 12:12:47 PM
Basically, 3 reasons.
1. $
2. $$$
3. $$$$$
You gotta at least put NCAA lack of coordination on this one on your list as well. Tim Brando was going off about this at the end of the broadcast for the STJ/Creighton game.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on March 12, 2020, 12:26:42 PM
Work in the healthcare field. Absolute over reaction. But will be effective in stopping the spread.
Wow covid 19 expert huh
Quote from: geagles10 on March 12, 2020, 12:18:28 PM
I am a physician. I have ordered the test a few times in the last week. All of this is such an over reaction. In the past 2 weeks I have had patients + flu die with no concerns at all. This is all over blown by the media and no noone can actually make a informed decision due to "optics".
LOL.
Quote from: dinger on March 12, 2020, 12:27:40 PM
You gotta at least put NCAA lack of coordination on this one on your list as well. Tim Brando was going off about this at the end of the broadcast for the STJ/Creighton game.
I'm Shocked, Shocked.
Quote from: Johnny B on March 12, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
Wow covid 19 expert huh
Don't need to be an expert to understand basic transmission.
So does St. John's hang a banner? They were leading by 3 at the half.
Quote from: Benny B on March 12, 2020, 12:35:40 PM
So does St. John's hang a banner? They were leading by 3 at the half.
Any read on why they were playing the second half?
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 12:12:19 PM
Billy u are an idiot, had u been president or whomever is in charge of Corona virus testing how many test kids would u have ordered to have had had on shelves two months ago? Or are millions of test kits able to be produced daily? Plz mr monday morning quarterback tell us manufacturing capacity, lead times and everything u would have done differently
We had the tests, the government just wasn't distributing them. And then it was slowing up the development of new tests:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa
Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government's blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker's story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a "failing" at a congressional hearing on Thursday.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 12:40:48 PM
We had the tests, the government just wasn't distributing them. And then it was slowing up the development of new tests:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa
Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government's blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker's story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a "failing" at a congressional hearing on Thursday.
Now there's a credible unbiased news source. ::)
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 12:40:48 PM
We had the tests, the government just wasn't distributing them. And then it was slowing up the development of new tests:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa
Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government's blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker's story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a "failing" at a congressional hearing on Thursday.
And yet the Utah Jazz were able to get 58 players tested within a matter of hours.
Wonder why?
Quote from: geagles10 on March 12, 2020, 12:47:38 PM
explain what is so funny
Sultan is an expert on everything, didn't you know?
Quote from: geagles10 on March 12, 2020, 12:47:38 PM
explain what is so funny
"overblown by the media"
Yes. I'm sure Italy is shut down, we are stopping flights from Europe, etc. because of the "media."
Look, if you want to say that some of the actions we are taking are likely not going to have much impact on the spread of the disease, then fine. If that qualifies as an "overreaction" in your eyes, so be it. But blaming the media? That's just bullsh*t. And comparing to flu? That's even worse.
It truly is. Media drives panic. If you are looking at deaths, even in all countries around the word, still not close to the Flu on a yearly basis.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 12:40:48 PM
We had the tests, the government just wasn't distributing them. And then it was slowing up the development of new tests:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa
Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government's blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker's story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a "failing" at a congressional hearing on Thursday.
Billy,
Nice source. Keep on "loosing" my friend
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 12:51:51 PM
"overblown by the media"
Yes. I'm sure Italy is shut down, we are stopping flights from Europe, etc. because of the "media."
Yeah no kidding. People need to stop being so dumb. When everything settles down, will some of the measures we have taken turn out to maybe have been unnecessary? Sure. But to keep this from continuing to spread to more and more people and to get it to the point where it actually does settle down, you need to be proactive and not reactive.
Quote from: geagles10 on March 12, 2020, 12:53:27 PM
It truly is. Media drives panic. If you are looking at deaths, even in all countries around the word, still not close to the Flu on a yearly basis.
Look at the rate dude.
Seriously, you can't be an actual doctor right?
You can't look at the rate of deaths, there has been minimal testing. 34,000 people died just in the US from flu in 2019.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 12:55:39 PM
Look at the rate dude.
Seriously, you can't be an actual doctor right?
The rate in South Korea, which has the best testing environment, is less than 1%. I think I last saw something like 0.7%. So yeah, much higher than the flu. But also much lower than initial estimates of 3%-4%.
(https://www.profkrg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Please-dont-feed-the-trolls.jpg)
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 01:00:50 PM
The rate in South Korea, which has the best testing environment, is less than 1%. I think I last saw something like 0.7%. So yeah, much higher than the flu. But also much lower than initial estimates of 3%-4%.
And..... South Korea has a more authoritarian response to the virus than we do. Not to mention, we're less healthy as a nation all together.
I do think we're going a bit overboard, but cancelling is the right decision.
Big East Fever....Catch it!
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 12, 2020, 12:47:48 PM
Now there's a credible unbiased news source. ::)
is this one good enough, or does it fall under "fake news?" The fact is our government has let our country down.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/politics/congress-outrage-testing-covid-19/index.html
As he left Thursday's briefing, GOP Rep. Mark Walker of North Carolina said there is "a growing frustration among members as a whole to get more definitive answers" from the administration about testing capabilities.
He said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention "struggled to give a really strong answer" on why the United States hasn't been able to duplicate testing that is being used in places such as South Korea.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 12:40:48 PM
We had the tests, the government just wasn't distributing them. And then it was slowing up the development of new tests:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa
Ever since the first case of Covid-19 was detected in the US on January 20, the government's blunders in creating and distributing diagnostic testing have greatly handicapped our response to the growing pandemic. Eaker's story is not unique: Reports suggest providers everywhere are struggling to help their patients, while receiving frustrating guidance from authorities.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease scientist, called the testing situation a "failing" at a congressional hearing on Thursday.
Didnt think u would answer the question doesnt fit ur BS narrative
Quote from: skianth16 on March 12, 2020, 01:00:50 PM
The rate in South Korea, which has the best testing environment, is less than 1%. I think I last saw something like 0.7%. So yeah, much higher than the flu. But also much lower than initial estimates of 3%-4%.
Right. That's still a lot of people dying. So our resident doctor probably needs to stop saying its media driven.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 01:57:59 PM
is this one good enough, or does it fall under "fake news?" The fact is our government has let our country down.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/politics/congress-outrage-testing-covid-19/index.html
As he left Thursday's briefing, GOP Rep. Mark Walker of North Carolina said there is "a growing frustration among members as a whole to get more definitive answers" from the administration about testing capabilities.
He said the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention "struggled to give a really strong answer" on why the United States hasn't been able to duplicate testing that is being used in places such as South Korea.
It's like we shouldn't look to the government to solve our problems regardless of who's in power. ::)
Quote from: whitykj on March 12, 2020, 02:09:32 PM
It's like we shouldn't look to the government to solve our problems regardless of who's in power. ::)
For a pandemic? Yeah, I think even most of you weirdo libertarians would think this is one of those occasions where a national government should be ready.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 02:13:28 PM
For a pandemic? Yeah, I think even most of you weirdo libertarians would think this is one of those occasions where a national government should be ready.
Besides cutting off travel abroad and the private sector cancelling large scale events to slow the spread so that demand of care does not out scale the supply what else can be done?
You really arn't offering any solutions here comrade.
Quote from: whitykj on March 12, 2020, 02:20:57 PM
Besides cutting off travel abroad and the private sector cancelling large scale events to slow the spread so that demand of care does not out scale the supply what else can be done?
You really arn't offering any solutions here.
Education and preparedness. Kind of hard to do though when CDC pandemic team was cut out of the picture during a budget slash for tax cuts. It's alright though, I'm sure some billionaire philanthropist will save us.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 12, 2020, 02:26:37 PM
Education and preparedness. Kind of hard to do though when CDC pandemic team was cut out of the picture during a budget slash for tax cuts. It's alright though, I'm sure some billionaire philanthropist will save us.
Because every other nation has this under control. ::)
Quote from: whitykj on March 12, 2020, 02:28:00 PM
Because every other nation has this under control. ::)
So far.......yes. You should read up and educate yourself. It could be a lot worse, especially in China.
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on March 12, 2020, 02:30:01 PM
So far.......yes. You should read up and educate yourself. It could be a lot worse, especially in China.
Name them
Quote from: whitykj on March 12, 2020, 02:28:00 PM
Because every other nation has this under control. ::)
Actually a couple of them (China, South Korea) have it much more under control due to strong measures, including widespread testing, by the central government.
Quote from: whitykj on March 12, 2020, 02:20:57 PM
Besides cutting off travel abroad and the private sector cancelling large scale events to slow the spread so that demand of care does not out scale the supply what else can be done?
You really arn't offering any solutions here comrade.
Testing. If we could find, isolate and treat all cases, it would stop the spread. Even macho guys that brag about going on with their daily lives. Wonder if they touch everything like the Jazz player did?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 02:31:28 PM
Actually a couple of them (China, South Korea) have it much more under control due to strong measures, including widespread testing, by the central government.
So you honestly think having more testing is having it "under control". It's still spreading and it's still getting people sick. Unless you are advocating for the government to forcibly quarantine people. Those countries are also in much later stages that us. We just got passed 1,000 confirmed cases yesterday for goodness sake. The only thing we really can do is to slow this thing so that everyone doesn't get it at once. So that the demand for medical care does not outpace supply.
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 12, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
Testing. If we could find, isolate and treat all cases, it would stop the spread. Even macho guys that brag about going on with their daily lives. Wonder if they touch everything like the Jazz player did?
That's not gonna stop the spread unless you are advocating for massive government intervention of everyone's lives. It's better to just voluntarily quarantine ourselves.
mmmkay guys. I know it's on everybody's mind. But lets not turn every thread into a general CV-19 thread.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2020, 02:49:42 PM
mmmkay guys. I know it's on everybody's mind. But lets not turn every thread into a general CV-19 thread.
Wow I didn't see anyone bring it up till you just did. Tisk tisk
Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 12, 2020, 02:56:46 PM
Wow I didn't see anyone bring it up till you just did. Tisk tisk
So you ignore everyone but me? Smart move
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2020, 03:16:58 PM
So you ignore everyone but me? Smart move
That way I can get straight to the Arby's updates