Just saw the Golden Eagles Alumni are signing up again. Any chance we get a Novak Diener and Wade reunion? (obviously kidding about Wade)
Who's looking like they're available?
Hoping for at least DJO, Wilson, Vander, Buycks, Hayward and Mcneal. Gotta bump our talent level up to at least our borderline NBA players.
Need some size.
Quote from: Nukem2 on May 05, 2019, 06:53:23 AM
Need some size.
Would love to see Gardner, Fischer, or Ooze get a shot.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 05, 2019, 05:39:14 AM
Just saw the Golden Eagles Alumni are signing up again. Any chance we get a Novak Diener and Wade reunion? (obviously kidding about Wade)
Who's looking like they're available?
Hoping for at least DJO, Wilson, Vander, Buycks, Hayward and Mcneal. Gotta bump our talent level up to at least our borderline NBA players.
All of those guys have logged NBA minutes.
Actually, as I was typing that, I don't know if DJO ever logged an official NBA minute. I think he may have only played preseason.
Quote from: Eldon on May 05, 2019, 08:03:21 AM
All of those guys have logged NBA minutes.
Actually, as I was typing that, I don't know if DJO ever logged an official NBA minute. I think he may have only played preseason.
Djo logged 21 minutes over 7 games.
DJO did great this year in G League and Italy. Hopefully we get him on the time this year.
Quote from: Eldon on May 05, 2019, 08:03:21 AM
All of those guys have logged NBA minutes.
Actually, as I was typing that, I don't know if DJO ever logged an official NBA minute. I think he may have only played preseason.
That's why I called them borderline. None of them stuck. Seems like the teams that get there are loaded with former pros and outside of Travis and Steve there's no former nba players from MU that're still in playing shape (ok, wade) so next tier down is the best bet I figure.
Bee grate if da Hauser kinfolk wood join da Warriors just four ole tymes sake, aina?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 05, 2019, 08:58:45 AM
Bee grate if da Hauser kinfolk wood join da Warriors just four ole tymes sake, aina?
they can form the quitters team with christopherson, taylor jr, mbakwe, maymonne, cheatham, Duane etc.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 05, 2019, 05:39:14 AM
Just saw the Golden Eagles Alumni are signing up again. Any chance we get a Novak Diener and Wade reunion? (obviously kidding about Wade)
Who's looking like they're available?
Hoping for at least DJO, Wilson, Vander, Buycks, Hayward and Mcneal. Gotta bump our talent level up to at least our borderline NBA players.
Wade could play...but I'd bet Rowsey will.
I can't imagine Wade playing.
The team needs size and shooting. Otule and/or Fisher and Davante would really help. The shooting aspect would help if Rowsey and Novak join - and need Mo Acker to play again.
The core of DJO, McNeal, Buycks are all basically the same player. Need them, but need diversity!
Quote from: WarriorFan on May 05, 2019, 01:27:55 PM
I can't imagine Wade playing.
The team needs size and shooting. Otule and/or Fisher and Davante would really help. The shooting aspect would help if Rowsey and Novak join - and need Mo Acker to play again.
The core of DJO, McNeal, Buycks are all basically the same player. Need them, but need diversity!
Didn't DJO back out last year? but yeah good point, plus it's dawning on me that Mcneal is getting up there in age also
We need to reunite JJJ and Duane on our squad.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 05, 2019, 01:36:48 PM
Didn't DJO back out last year? but yeah good point, plus it's dawning on me that Mcneal is getting up there in age also
Think it had to do with OX getting married and then his suspension?
Will Marquette host a Big East Alumni pod again or one of our rivals?
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 06, 2019, 08:10:12 AM
Will Marquette host a Big East Alumni pod again or one of our rivals?
Doesn't sound like it. They have 8 regionals selected to host the first 2 rounds.
They are not hosting this year. In fact the nearest region is Ohio. However, the Championship Weekend bracket (actually longer than a weekend) with the Elite 8 going to Chicago August 1-6.
MU has been close the last couple years. If they want to seal the deal they need to add Novak, Ficsher, gardner and diener again, plus DJO, Buycks, Wilson, Blue, Rousey and maybe Mcneal and or Acker?
Toss in Butch too.
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 06, 2019, 12:21:55 PM
Toss in Butch too.
Only in Butch's fertile mind! I still got it!!! ;D
Voting for the team is open. Everyone vote and share !!
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on May 06, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Voting for the team is open. Everyone vote and share !!
Link it paaaal
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on May 06, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Voting for the team is open. Everyone vote and share !!
Remember you get a share of the pot!
Quote from: #UnleashCain on May 06, 2019, 08:08:19 PM
Link it paaaal
https://thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni
Stack TF out of this team and let's win it.
Everyone please sign in and support team so MU can get in tournament.
https://www.thetournament.com/
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 12, 2019, 11:22:32 AM
Everyone please sign in and support team so MU can get in tournament.
https://www.thetournament.com/
They already have a free pass into the tourney because of their prior success.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 12, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
They already have a free pass into the tourney because of their prior success.
They do, but there are other benefits to having fan support, including being able to have a larger roster more easily.
Nm I'm drunk
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 12, 2019, 12:41:26 PM
They do, but there are other benefits to having fan support, including being able to have a larger roster more easily.
Plus money if they win!
Saw somewhere on twitter yesterday that DJO is playing on a different team this year
Quote from: Wojo Era on May 12, 2019, 04:19:51 PM
Saw somewhere on twitter yesterday that DJO is playing on a different team this year
This falls squarely on Wojo's shoulders.
Quote from: Wojo Era on May 12, 2019, 04:19:51 PM
Saw somewhere on twitter yesterday that DJO is playing on a different team this year
Please post that somewhere on twitter
Quote from: Wojo Era on May 12, 2019, 04:19:51 PM
Saw somewhere on twitter yesterday that DJO is playing on a different team this year
A&M, aina?
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 12, 2019, 05:05:09 PM
Please post that somewhere on twitter
Thanks for always being such a joy
https://twitter.com/TeamLoyaltyTBT/status/1126563092966531072
Quote from: Wojo Era on May 12, 2019, 10:03:37 PM
https://twitter.com/TeamLoyaltyTBT/status/1126563092966531072
Ok so we have to sign up Duane and JJJ to make up for this.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 12, 2019, 10:46:47 PM
Ok so we have to sign up Duane and JJJ to make up for this.
I am pretty sure DeMarcus Cousins won't be playing in the TBT.
Quote from: Wojo Era on May 12, 2019, 10:03:37 PM
https://twitter.com/TeamLoyaltyTBT/status/1126563092966531072
Kinda ironic that an ex-Warrior has defected to play on Team "Loyalty."
Quote from: MU82 on May 12, 2019, 11:30:01 PM
Kinda ironic that an ex-Warrior has defected to play on Team "Loyalty."
And also, it looked like a hostage video. Let's count his eye blinking to see if he was sending a message.
I heard he was upset because Travis Diener was taking all the shots...
But did his Dad tell him to write a letter??
Please sign up to support MU otherwise the team may not be selected. MU does not have an automatic invite . If we get all of those active on Scoop to sign up it would help.
https://www.thetournament.com/
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 13, 2019, 11:12:04 PM
Please sign up to support MU otherwise the team may not be selected. MU does not have an automatic invite . If we get all of those active on Scoop to sign up it would help.
https://www.thetournament.com/
Fake news
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1125441654230593536?s=21
But yes, still should support in either case.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 13, 2019, 11:12:04 PM
Please sign up to support MU otherwise the team may not be selected. MU does not have an automatic invite . If we get all of those active on Scoop to sign up it would help.
https://www.thetournament.com/
::) ::) ::)
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on May 13, 2019, 09:38:39 AM
I heard he was upset because Travis Diener was taking all the shots...
Nice. I chuckled.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 13, 2019, 11:19:39 PM
Fake news
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1125441654230593536?s=21
But yes, still should support in either case.
Thanks for sharing this. Still support team though as they need all the help they can get.
I just hope they don't invite Juan Anderson
We need to get Duane and JJJ on the team. Would really give us that fast break option along with Buycks.
Would love to see Jamil Wilson and davante gardner play again
How about Henry? Does anyone know if that's a possibility and would that make sense?
Quote from: romey on May 15, 2019, 10:22:40 AM
How about Henry? Does anyone know if that's a possibility and would that make sense?
Has a team option with the knicks that would have to be rejected, then have no other team sign him. Little to zero chance he plays on the tbt team even if no one signs him.
I'm sure Wally's available.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 15, 2019, 10:40:38 AM
I'm sure Wally's available.
He sold all his MU apparel on eBay so you can knock him off the list as this isn't a shirts vs. skins type of tournament.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 15, 2019, 02:01:29 PM
He sold all his MU apparel on eBay so you can knock him off the list as this isn't a shirts vs. skins type of tournament.
Unless he's looking for some fresh inventory to flip...
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 15, 2019, 10:40:38 AM
I'm sure Wally's available.
He and Henry could both play. One could wear SMOKE on the back of his jersey and the other could wear MIRRORS.
So far we have Jamil, Mo Acker, and Buycks
Now all we need is Swaggy Du and JJJ
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 15, 2019, 09:38:13 PM
So far we have Jamil, Mo Acker, and Buycks
Now all we need is Swaggy Du and JJJ
Jamil Wilson?? i thought it said joe chapman
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on May 15, 2019, 10:46:32 PM
Jamil Wilson?? i thought it said joe chapman
http://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on May 15, 2019, 10:46:32 PM
Jamil Wilson?? i thought it said joe chapman
Both are signed up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 16, 2019, 06:23:36 AM
Both are signed up.
Chapman is listed as Head Coach, not a player...
Rowsey is in.
Don't understand why they are dissing Duane and JJJ . Makes no sense.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 22, 2019, 05:58:56 PM
Don't understand why they are dissing Duane and JJJ . Makes no sense.
How are they dissing them? I'm curious
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 22, 2019, 06:01:57 PM
How are they dissing them? I'm curious
They should be on the team.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 22, 2019, 06:47:42 PM
They should be on the team.
Maybe they don't want to play? Have they been asked?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 22, 2019, 06:50:38 PM
Maybe they don't want to play? Have they been asked?
They would love to play. Team is junked up with guys like Jake Thomas.
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 22, 2019, 06:57:33 PM
They would love to play. Team is junked up with guys like Jake Thomas.
I blame Crean
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 22, 2019, 06:57:33 PM
They would love to play. Team is junked up with guys like Jake Thomas.
And you know they would love to play?
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 22, 2019, 07:18:30 PM
Yes
Interesting. Who told you?
Maybe Wojo told the guys currently on the team not to invite them? I bet that's what happened
Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 22, 2019, 07:53:30 PM
Interesting. Who told you?
Maybe Wojo told the guys currently on the team not to invite them? I bet that's what happened
On Du Wilson someone tweeted at him about TBT playing for MU and he said he would love to. On JJJ have not seen anything.
Quote from: Newsdreams on May 22, 2019, 09:53:30 PM
On Du Wilson someone tweeted at him about TBT playing for MU and he said he would love to. On JJJ have not seen anything.
Thanks! Did not know that. Swaggy would be great for the team
Wilson retweeting.
https://twitter.com/mgallo1997/status/1131602780630716417?s=21
Now all we need is @SwaggyDu1
Ummm ...is there anything that prevents Duane from contacting Joe Chapman and asking to be on the team? I wasn't aware this was an invitational, thought it was more like a pick-up team.
Were the Hausers invited?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 24, 2019, 09:02:30 AM
Were the Hausers invited?
I heard sam wrote a letter asking chapman if he could play
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on May 24, 2019, 09:08:07 AM
I heard sam wrote a letter asking chapman if he could play
LOL!
Quote from: GoldenEagle323 on May 24, 2019, 09:08:07 AM
I heard sam wrote a letter asking chapman if he could play
The rest of the team refused to sign it.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on May 24, 2019, 09:02:30 AM
Were the Hausers invited?
Let's hope they accept and immediately lose the rest of their NCAA eligibility.
Elgin Cook and Mo Charlo added to the team
Sounds like Melo might play for the Syracuse team.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1134264728883277831?s=20
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 31, 2019, 08:10:52 AM
Sounds like Melo might play for the Syracuse team.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1134264728883277831?s=20
He officially retired?
No DuWilson for sure
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1135988695125942272?s=21
Salty I'm not playing in the tbt tournament. Really was the highlight of my summer fr. It's good tho. 💯🤷🏾♂️
Quote from: Newsdreams on June 04, 2019, 06:25:00 PM
No DuWilson for sure
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1135988695125942272?s=21
Salty I'm not playing in the tbt tournament. Really was the highlight of my summer fr. It's good tho. 💯🤷🏾♂️
really wish he was playing, dont know if he plays with us in the future now
Quote from: TallTitan34 on May 31, 2019, 08:10:52 AM
Sounds like Melo might play for the Syracuse team.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1134264728883277831?s=20
Now THIS could be motivation for DWade to join Marquette Alumni.
Quote from: Newsdreams on June 04, 2019, 06:25:00 PM
No DuWilson for sure
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1135988695125942272?s=21
Salty I'm not playing in the tbt tournament. Really was the highlight of my summer fr. It's good tho. 💯🤷🏾♂️
Like I said a while back he was pissed off about it. Obviously enough to put it on social media now. Moronic move by TBT group. Seriously, a whole bunch of non MU games and Jake Thomas? Makes no sense.
Yeah I don't like having non-MU guys on the team.
What's with all the random people on the team that don't have an MU connection?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 05, 2019, 06:23:44 AM
What's with all the random people on the team that don't have an MU connection?
Cool and Bowers were on the team last summer too.
It's dumb, and kinda of ruins it for me personally.
Weird having 3 non mu players but denying du.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on June 05, 2019, 07:53:26 AM
Weird having 3 non mu players but denying du.
Does TAMU have a team?
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 04, 2019, 10:20:21 PM
Like I said a while back he was pissed off about it. Obviously enough to put it on social media now. Moronic move by TBT group. Seriously, a whole bunch of non MU games and Jake Thomas? Makes no sense.
Who cares. He left.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 08:12:44 AM
Who cares. He left.
Duane graduated and was at MU for 4 years . Was going to be behind Markus and Rowsey . So he Took an opportunity that was available .
Duane's Dad runs a respected AAU program. No reason to inflame relations.
MU was promoting the whole TBT thing last. Disappointing they theybcoukd not make it work for Duane.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on June 05, 2019, 07:24:30 AM
Cool and Bowers were on the team last summer too.
It's dumb, and kinda of ruins it for me personally.
knew bowers was. Didn't know the other guy was.
I agree, it ruins it. I've been really pumped about this tournament every year previously but this time I'm pretty apathetic. Rowsey and Buycks are the only two I am excited to see in an MU jersey again.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 05, 2019, 08:22:01 AM
Duane graduated and was at MU for 4 years . Was going to be behind Markus and Rowsey . So he Took an opportunity that was available .
Duane's Dad runs a respected AAU program. No reason to inflame relations.
MU was promoting the whole TBT thing last. Disappointing they theybcoukd not make it work for Duane.
MU has no control over who is on the TBT roster.
No diener or novak? =(
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 05, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
MU has no control over who is on the TBT roster.
Doesn't Dan Fitzgerald control the roster? You'd think a guy that works for MU would at least give MU guys priority.
I'd rather see Niv Berkowitz over Cook or Bowers.
THE F'IN TEAM IS CALLED GOLDEN EAGLES ALUMNI!?!?!?!
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 05, 2019, 10:42:40 AM
Doesn't Dan Fitzgerald control the roster? You'd think a guy that works for MU would at least give MU guys priority.
I'd rather see Niv Berkowitz over Cook or Bowers.
THE F'IN TEAM IS CALLED GOLDEN EAGLES ALUMNI!?!?!?!
Agreed, and its not like Cook and Bowers are the second coming of Curry and Durant
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 05, 2019, 09:35:47 AM
MU has no control over who is on the TBT roster.
Technically yes but they are supplying training facility and last year were promoting it. Just plain dumb all the way around not to fill it with our own guys.
Looks like they needed size and Cook and Bowers provide it.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 05, 2019, 10:56:54 AM
Technically yes but they are supplying training facility and last year were promoting it. Just plain dumb all the way around not to fill it with our own guys.
Duane isn't our own guy. He left.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 11:12:10 AM
Duane isn't our own guy. He left.
Team is called Golden Eagles Alumni.
Duane is a Golden Eagle alumni. Cook and Bowers are not.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 11:12:10 AM
Duane isn't our own guy. He left.
That seems exceptionally harsh considering the situation. Isn't his degree worth as much as yours?
This should actually be a rule of this tournament..Your team must consist of players that attended that school. No outside players.
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
This should actually be a rule of this tournament..Your team must consist of players that attended that school. No outside players.
Since the teams don't have to be college alumni teams, anyone could just rename their team to be unaffiliated with the college. I like that they represent Marquette. I'm sorry they didn't ask Duane to play.
I've talked to Fitz about the roster construction in past years. They invite most if not all of the guys that we'd like to see. If they're not playing it's likely because they can't or don't want to.
Not sure about the Duane situation. Hard to believe the MU team would turn him down though?
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 05, 2019, 11:14:43 AM
Team is called Golden Eagles Alumni.
Duane is a Golden Eagle alumni. Cook and Bowers are not.
Duane transferred. Cook and Bowers did not.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 05, 2019, 11:15:31 AM
That seems exceptionally harsh considering the situation. Isn't his degree worth as much as yours?
I'm not playing either.
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
This should actually be a rule of this tournament..Your team must consist of players that attended that school. No outside players.
TBT was never intended to be a "get the band back together" tournament for college teams, although some early teams were constructed that way.
There's a whole lot of money at stake, so if you're going to play with the intention to win, the roster needs to be balanced. And judging from past champions, size matters. Which is why an Elgin Cook might get a spot over Du Wilson, whether we like it or not. Who knows if there are other things at issue (availability, requested cut of the pie, etc.), but this isn't just a fun run for these guys, so I can see where brand loyalty might need to fall by the wayside.
Quote from: Skip Intro on June 05, 2019, 11:43:09 AM
TBT was never intended to be a "get the band back together" tournament for college teams, although some early teams were constructed that way.
There's a whole lot of money at stake, so if you're going to play with the intention to win, the roster needs to be balanced. And judging from past champions, size matters. Which is why an Elgin Cook might get a spot over Du Wilson, whether we like it or not. Who knows if there are other things at issue (availability, requested cut of the pie, etc.), but this isn't just a fun run for these guys, so I can see where brand loyalty might need to fall by the wayside.
I mean I get it 100%, it would just add a lot to it to me if they were all alumni teams. They just gotta get D Wade to play now :)
Quote from: muguru on June 05, 2019, 11:17:34 AM
This should actually be a rule of this tournament..Your team must consist of players that attended that school. No outside players.
Overseas Elite & Eberlein Drive would be hard pressed to put teams together. Team Challenge ALS even more so, especially if only players with ALS were allowed to play.
I believe Cook and Bowers have Milwaukee ties.
It's a bummer Duane isn't on the team. I think as some of the nostalgia wears off, it's tougher to get guys. Especially as some are still trying to make the NBA or play overseas. I think the last few years there's been a lot of guys who signed up but never played or dropped out midway through to join a pro team.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 05, 2019, 10:56:54 AM
Technically yes but they are supplying training facility and last year were promoting it. Just plain dumb all the way around not to fill it with our own guys.
Not just technically yes, just yes yes. The roster is determined by the guys on the team. I don't know why Duane wasn't invited but the other players determined that they wanted other players more. Maybe it's a balance thing. Maybe it's a other players are better thing. Maybe the guys don't along with Duane for some reason. Your beef is with these guys: https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni. Not MU.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 05, 2019, 12:19:03 PM
Not just technically yes, just yes yes. The roster is determined by the guys on the team. I don't know why Duane wasn't invited but the other players determined that they wanted other players more. Maybe it's a balance thing. Maybe it's a other players are better thing. Maybe the guys don't along with Duane for some reason. Your beef is with these guys: https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni. Not MU.
Wojo told them not to include Duane so he could get back at Duane's dad
If you guys could select any former MU players for next year's TBT team who would you pick? I'm discounting the guys currently under NBA contracts.
I'd go:
Dwyane Wade
Dominic James
Travis Diener
Steve Novak
Davante Gardner
Andrew Rowsey
Jerel McNeal
DJO
Ousmane Barro
Lazar Hayward
Luke Fischer
EDIT: Forgot Jerel
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 05, 2019, 01:00:23 PM
If you guys could select any former MU players for next year's TBT team who would you pick? I'm discounting the guys currently under NBA contracts.
I'd go:
Dwyane Wade
Dominic James
Travis Diener
Steve Novak
Davante Gardner
Andrew Rowsey
Jerel McNeal
DJO
Ousmane Barro
Lazar Hayward
Luke Fischer
EDIT: Forgot Jerel
Niv
Yous
Dameon Mason
Roseboro
Amoroso
Riley Crean
Quote from: TallTitan34 on June 05, 2019, 01:00:23 PM
If you guys could select any former MU players for next year's TBT team who would you pick? I'm discounting the guys currently under NBA contracts.
I'd go:
Dwyane Wade
Dominic James
Travis Diener
Steve Novak
Davante Gardner
Andrew Rowsey
Jerel McNeal
DJO
Ousmane Barro
Lazar Hayward
Luke Fischer
EDIT: Forgot Jerel
We could put together a nice squad in a "30 and over" division.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 05, 2019, 12:19:03 PM
Not just technically yes, just yes yes. The roster is determined by the guys on the team. I don't know why Duane wasn't invited but the other players determined that they wanted other players more. Maybe it's a balance thing. Maybe it's a other players are better thing. Maybe the guys don't along with Duane for some reason. Your beef is with these guys: https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni. Not MU.
I thought Duane did a great job his final season till he got injured and the team was winning . Always was there in the clutch seems like that is the kind of guy we want . Not Jake Thomas . The promoter of this TBT team needs his head examined.
Duane left. Jake didn't. The former isn't a Warrior. The latter is.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Duane left. Jake didn't. The former isn't a Warrior. The latter is.
Duane graduated from MU. He is a Warrior.
Quote from: Nukem2 on June 05, 2019, 07:53:38 PM
Duane graduated from MU. He is a Warrior.
Then he abandoned them. Warrior title stripped.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 07:54:35 PM
Then he abandoned them. Warrior title stripped.
Pontiff has spoken huh? How do you really feel about this.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 05, 2019, 07:58:07 PM
Pontiff has spoken huh? How do you really feel about this.
Not even religious. I just don't get the Duane love. He was largely a disappointment and he left.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 08:03:26 PM
Not even religious. I just don't get the Duane love. He was largely a disappointment and he left.
I'm just joking with you man. You have made your case clear. Some feel it's more nuanced. Maybe it's not Duane love—it's just no Duane hate.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on June 05, 2019, 08:05:32 PM
I'm just joking with you man. You have made your case clear. Some feel it's more nuanced. Maybe it's not Duane love—it's just no Duane hate.
Ok ok. I'll stop arguing then. 🙂
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 08:03:26 PM
Not even religious. I just don't get the Duane love. He was largely a disappointment and he left.
Duane was a kid who was all about the team and winning. Buzz red shirted him the freshman year due to the stress fracture, even though he could have played part of the way through. The kid played hard and tough nosed basketball , had a very solid red shirt freshman season, then had some chronic leg injury problems the hampered his performance the next season. His final season, Wojo asked Duane to take a different role as a Defensive stopper, which Duane went along with and was very much a supporter of the guys who took his time. It was at that point that I became a big fan of the kid. By the end of the season Duane was actually starting again which showed his character. After he graduated, he had an opportunity to run the offense for a top 25 team and he took it, rather than ride the bench behind Markus and Andrew, I don't think he should be faulted for that. He left with the full support of the coaching staff . A player only gets 4 years to play in college and they want to maximize the opportunity.
If I had to guess it's probably because Duane hasn't played organized basketball since he got hurt a year and a half ago.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 07:54:35 PM
Then he abandoned them. Warrior title stripped.
Using this logic any Marquette alum that spent four years at MU, graduated, but then got a masters degree or even took classes from another school betrayed MU and no longer has the right to be a fan.
Why is it that because he played a sport that we hold him to a different level of expected loyalty? I agree that outside of his freshman year he was disappointing though.
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 05, 2019, 08:17:54 PM
Duane was a kid who was all about the team and winning. Buzz red shirted him the freshman year due to the stress fracture, even though he could have played part of the way through. The kid played hard and tough nosed basketball , had a very solid red shirt freshman season, then had some chronic leg injury problems the hampered his performance the next season. His final season, Wojo asked Duane to take a different role as a Defensive stopper, which Duane went along with and was very much a supporter of the guys who took his time. It was at that point that I became a big fan of the kid. By the end of the season Duane was actually starting again which showed his character. After he graduated, he had an opportunity to run the offense for a top 25 team and he took it, rather than ride the bench behind Markus and Andrew, I don't think he should be faulted for that. He left with the full support of the coaching staff . A player only gets 4 years to play in college and they want to maximize the opportunity.
Plus that hesitation move in my favorite mu game.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on June 06, 2019, 08:35:09 AM
Plus that hesitation move in my favorite mu game.
DWilson played a huge role when they beat #1 nova
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 05, 2019, 11:40:44 PM
Using this logic any Marquette alum that spent four years at MU, graduated, but then got a masters degree or even took classes from another school betrayed MU and no longer has the right to be a fan.
Why is it that because he played a sport that we hold him to a different level of expected loyalty? I agree that outside of his freshman year he was disappointing though.
you just sent out the bat signal to chicos
Quote from: lawdog77 on June 06, 2019, 10:02:41 AM
you just sent out the bat signal to chicos
Luckily he's to distracted arguing about nets.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on June 06, 2019, 10:59:49 AM
Luckily he's to distracted arguing about nets.
butterfly or Brooklyn?
I like the TBT concept in general but think it could be executed much better. How about an all alumni division, a 30+ alumni division(previous poster gets the shout out for this), an open division and a ladies division.
It's all about money, sure but IMO ESPN doesn't monetize this to the extent that they could. Do all four divisional championships in Vegas during the Summer sports doldrums. I think it would be fun..
I think college hoops fans would embrace the college divisions..
My only interest is to see MU players. Much more interesting to see only alum teams. Becky vs MU all alum teams? Games like that would be interesting
Quote from: manny31 on June 06, 2019, 07:51:56 PM
I like the TBT concept in general but think it could be executed much better. How about an all alumni division, a 30+ alumni division(previous poster gets the shout out for this), an open division and a ladies division.
It's all about money, sure but IMO ESPN doesn't monetize this to the extent that they could. Do all four divisional championships in Vegas during the Summer sports doldrums. I think it would be fun..
I think college hoops fans would embrace the college divisions..
They did the college thing to an extent with a bug east bracket last year. There just isn't enough college teams doing the tbt to make it happen. Marquette with a plethora of players cannot field a team of solely mu players.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 05, 2019, 07:23:31 PM
Duane left. Jake didn't. The former isn't a Warrior. The latter is.
Neither play for Golden State (though they probably could with all of the injuries these days), but if Wilson isn't a Golden Eagle then Wade isn't either. He still had eligibility left. He abandoned the 2004 team too, right?
If you graduated, you're a Golden Eagle for life.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on June 06, 2019, 11:04:30 PM
They did the college thing to an extent with a bug east bracket last year.
Is that where all the undersized teams were placed?
Quote from: warriorchick on June 07, 2019, 08:21:10 AM
Is that where all the undersized teams were placed?
:-[
Fluffy, you are SO WRONG on this ridiculous assertion. You understand that Wilson already had a young child while at Marquette, right? After graduation he went somewhere where he thought a 'one year internship' maximized his opportunity to provide for his family down the road. Earning your Marquette diploma makes you a Warrior for life. Full stop.
Fluff is bruised and battered after the beating he's taken in this thread and rightfully so. What a moronic take
Quote from: NickelDimer on June 07, 2019, 12:36:42 PM
Fluff is bruised and battered after the beating he's taken in this thread and rightfully so. What a moronic take
I'm not bruised and battered in the least. I haven't changed my thought on the matter. I do not cave into the groupthink mentality when it is convenient to do so. I simply agreed to stop arguing about it, so I am.
And it would do you well to be less obsessed with me. I already own your ass enough as it is.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 07, 2019, 12:43:46 PM
I'm not bruised and battered in the least. I haven't changed my thought on the matter. I do not cave into the groupthink mentality when it is convenient to do so. I simply agreed to stop arguing about it, so I am.
And it would do you well to be less obsessed with me. I already own your ass enough as it is.
Beat to a pulp fluff. Take the L. Do your typical walk of shame and own your idiocy. And next time, save yourself the humiliation and don't talk out of your ass (not that you'd know if you were or not).
Quote from: NickelDimer on June 07, 2019, 01:02:13 PM
Beat to a pulp fluff. Take the L. Do your typical walk of shame and own your idiocy. And next time, save yourself the humiliation and don't talk out of your ass (not that you'd know if you were or not).
Opinion still not changed. And I said earlier, I am not arguing it anymore.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 07, 2019, 02:24:54 PM
Opinion still not changed. And I said earlier, I am not arguing it anymore.
But you never actually argued it with reasoning. You just said he left and that forfeits his Warrior card. But failed to address how him leaving was any different than a standard student going somewhere else for a grad degree.
Repeating your point without explaining the thought process or logic behind it isn't arguing it's being stubborn
Quote from: Galway Eagle on June 07, 2019, 02:27:36 PM
But you never actually argued it with reasoning. You just said he left and that forfeits his Warrior card. But failed to address how him leaving was any different than a standard student going somewhere else for a grad degree.
Repeating your point without explaining the thought process or logic behind it isn't arguing it's being stubborn
I really don't care enough to have any sort of logic behind my opinion. And I don't care enough to use logic to convince you otherwise.
Looks like we got a 1 seed
Karon Bradley is coach of the Wichita State team. Traitor!
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on June 11, 2019, 04:07:57 PM
Karon Bradley is coach of the Wichita State team. Traitor!
Shocker.
A look at the TBT uniforms for this year -
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/lets-look-at-marquettes-2019-tbt-uniforms/ar-AAE5Ai4?ocid=spartandhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/lets-look-at-marquettes-2019-tbt-uniforms/ar-AAE5Ai4?ocid=spartandhp)
Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 09, 2019, 05:05:05 PM
A look at the TBT uniforms for this year -
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/lets-look-at-marquettes-2019-tbt-uniforms/ar-AAE5Ai4?ocid=spartandhp (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/lets-look-at-marquettes-2019-tbt-uniforms/ar-AAE5Ai4?ocid=spartandhp)
At first glance, when I saw those uniforms on Facebook, I thought there were new MU uniforms for next season. I was very relieved when I realized they were for TBT.
Shorts look nice. Shirts look... Uhhh... European?
Shorts are fire
Those shorts are NIIIICE
I'm fine with the jersey. Not the best, but those shorts make it worth it
When did our TBT team sign Gary Player?
Shorts = Oregon's
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 09, 2019, 10:04:39 PM
Those shorts are NIIIICE
I'm fine with the jersey. Not the best, but those shorts make it worth it
I really don't like the shorts. At all. I thought the jersey was ok, but the shorts were awful.
I thought the shorts were watermarked with the old golden eagle. now that i see them better I'm disappointed.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 10, 2019, 08:22:23 AM
I thought the shorts were watermarked with the old golden eagle. now that i see them better I'm disappointed.
At least there's no bald eagle in the logo like there was before.
The shorts make up for the diagonal type on the jersey.
Bring back the 77 untucked (no NCAA rules against it in this tournament) or the bumblebees
No matter the tournament, this brings a smile to my face.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1152318269883342850
Not happy that our team dissed Swaggy Du. He really wanted to represent MU and they filled it with guys not from MU. Not a good look. Especially when your team GM is affiliated with the school.
Quote from: Its DJOver on July 19, 2019, 03:46:12 PM
No matter the tournament, this brings a smile to my face.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1152318269883342850
That made my afternoon! ;D
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 19, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
Not happy that our team dissed Swaggy Du. He really wanted to represent MU and they filled it with guys not from MU. Not a good look. Especially when your team GM is affiliated with the school.
Get involved and put up sone coin then
DJO playing for loyalty is love on ESPN2 now
Quote from: Marquette4life on July 20, 2019, 03:23:57 PM
DJO playing for loyalty is love on ESPN2 now
Not sure why he's playing there instead of for MU, but that team looks TOUGH
Did MU play yet??
Quote from: Warrior1969 on July 20, 2019, 04:47:13 PM
Did MU play yet??
No, they don't play until next Friday. Looks like online only. I wonder if ESPNU might pick it up locally.
Nope. No such thing in that.
Streaming on ESPN3 at 6pm on Friday. With a win, Saturday on ESPN @ 1pm.
Of course many of the new tv's has the app built in. Roku or Chromecast are other ways to watch on your big screen.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 19, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
Not happy that our team dissed Swaggy Du. He really wanted to represent MU and they filled it with guys not from MU. Not a good look. Especially when your team GM is affiliated with the school.
That's a significant reason why I don't watch. If the tourney was set up so that teams all had to be alumni of a particular school (or maybe allow smaller conferences have a team represent the conference), I'd get more excited. School pride, rivalries and all that.
But with the Marquette team not just guys from Marquette, and with guys from Marquette playing on other teams, it's about as exciting to me as the summer league...which I never bother to watch.
But I do kinda like the shorts.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on July 20, 2019, 05:09:49 PM
That's a significant reason why I don't watch. If the tourney was set up so that teams all had to be alumni of a particular school (or maybe allow smaller conferences have a team represent the conference), I'd get more excited. School pride, rivalries and all that.
But with the Marquette team not just guys from Marquette, and with guys from Marquette playing on other teams, it's about as exciting to me as the summer league...which I never bother to watch.
But I do kinda like the shorts.
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Completely agree. I have even become less interested in MU team
It's a pickup tournament that just happens to have several alumni teams
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 20, 2019, 04:49:43 PM
No, they don't play until next Friday. Looks like online only. I wonder if ESPNU might pick it up locally.
Don't believe espn does anything locally
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 20, 2019, 05:53:08 PM
It's a pickup tournament that just happens to have several alumni teams
Yep. The very source of my lack of interest.
oh no a few guys aren't Marquette alum. boo who. ill be watching. Good nostalgia from some of our former players and good quality hoops to watch mid summer.
I had fun watching DJO this afternoon. What a warrior.
Quote from: Johnny B on July 20, 2019, 06:42:30 PM
oh no a few guys aren't Marquette alum. boo who. ill be watching. Good nostalgia from some of our former players and good quality hoops to watch mid summer.
I'll be watching as well but it's a valid complaint when a team claiming to be the golden eagles alumni has three non MU guys.
As far as DJO goes that's a weird complaint.
Glow and I have gone to the first round the last two years - last year at the Al and the year before at Bradley in Peoria. It's a blast. It's very casual. Lots of opportunities to interact with the players and a good way to see your favorite ones up close at an extremely reasonable price.
Quote from: warriorchick on July 20, 2019, 08:28:05 PM
Glow and I have gone to the first round the last two years - last year at the Al and the year before at Bradley in Peoria. It's a blast. It's very casual. Lots of opportunities to interact with the players and a good way to see your favorite ones up close at an extremely reasonable price.
Last year at the AL was a lot of fun. Was hoping they would have it this year.
Why isnt djo playing for MU?
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 21, 2019, 01:42:35 PM
Why isnt djo playing for MU?
(https://i.giphy.com/media/l3q2GN9XKukSjmOek/giphy.webp)
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 21, 2019, 01:42:35 PM
Why isnt djo playing for MU?
My guess it has to do with his no show last year........
Quote from: #UnleashCain on July 20, 2019, 11:13:42 PM
Last year at the AL was a lot of fun. Was hoping they would have it this year.
In some ways Peoria was even more fun because the guys really enjoyed interacting with the handful of MU fans that attended. I had a very nice chat with Jerel and he was genuinely pleased that we had made the drive down from Chicago to watch them all play. But perhaps the highlight was watching Jamil jawbone with some trash talking SLU guys in the stands. I 'think' it was all in good fun but Wilson made sure to take out any real animosity on the court. Seeing some really high end hoops that up close and personal is a good time.
Practice
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1153797337195507714?s=21
As much as I like Buycks, Jamil. Rowsey , Juan etc. On principal I have to boycott any team that takes Derrick and Jake Thomas and a bunch of non MU guys over Swaggy Du, who actually really wanted to be on this team. The GM of the team has no common sense, and it is astonishing that he actually represents the school in an official capacity .
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 23, 2019, 11:39:58 PM
As much as I like Buycks, Jamil. Rowsey , Juan etc. On principal I have to boycott any team that takes Derrick and Jake Thomas and a bunch of non MU guys over Swaggy Du, who actually really wanted to be on this team. The GM of the team has no common sense, and it is astonishing that he actually represents the school in an official capacity .
1) It's the TBT.
2) We know how you feel.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 23, 2019, 11:39:58 PM
As much as I like Buycks, Jamil. Rowsey , Juan etc. On principal I have to boycott any team that takes Derrick and Jake Thomas and a bunch of non MU guys over Swaggy Du, who actually really wanted to be on this team. The GM of the team has no common sense, and it is astonishing that he actually represents the school in an official capacity .
Derrick averaged 16.5/5/5 with 2.8stls this year and shot 38% from 3.
Duane hasn't played organized basketball in what, a year and a half?
These guys are trying to win money Herman. And Derrick is a better player.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 23, 2019, 11:39:58 PM
As much as I like Buycks, Jamil. Rowsey , Juan etc. On principal I have to boycott any team that takes Derrick and Jake Thomas and a bunch of non MU guys over Swaggy Du, who actually really wanted to be on this team. The GM of the team has no common sense, and it is astonishing that he actually represents the school in an official capacity .
I know Fitzgerald's title is "GM" but you are severely overestimating the decision power he has. Roster decisions are made by the players. Buycks, Jamil, Rowsey, Juan, etc, the players you love seeing, they are the ones who picked Derrick, Jake, and a bunch of non-mu guys over Duane. For whatever reason, they didn't want him on the team as much as other guys. Stop trying to make this a marquette decision when it was a player decision.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 23, 2019, 11:39:58 PM
As much as I like Buycks, Jamil. Rowsey , Juan etc. On principal I have to boycott any team that takes Derrick and Jake Thomas and a bunch of non MU guys over Swaggy Du, who actually really wanted to be on this team. The GM of the team has no common sense, and it is astonishing that he actually represents the school in an official capacity .
You might want to refrain from that because Duane was taking part in the practices at the Al. So maybe he's not quite as upset as you indicate he is. (See the group photo)
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1154106830169284608?s=21
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 24, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
You might want to refrain from that because Duane was taking part in the practices at the Al. So maybe he's not quite as upset as you indicate he is. (See the group photo)
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1154106830169284608?s=21
Lol.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 24, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
You might want to refrain from that because Duane was taking part in the practices at the Al. So maybe he's not quite as upset as you indicate he is. (See the group photo)
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1154106830169284608?s=21
Herman was at the practice and Duane told him how upset he is.
Quote from: Newsdreams on July 24, 2019, 03:21:18 PM
Herman was at the practice and Duane told him how upset he is.
"I'm mad as hell, who even let you down here?!"
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 24, 2019, 02:20:27 PM
You might want to refrain from that because Duane was taking part in the practices at the Al. So maybe he's not quite as upset as you indicate he is. (See the group photo)
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1154106830169284608?s=21
Thanks for sharing that is great news. Hopefully we can see Swaggy Du doing his thing. I really like how he played his grad transfer year till .
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 24, 2019, 05:41:03 PM
Thanks for sharing that is great news. Hopefully we can see Swaggy Du doing his thing. I really like how he played his grad transfer year till .
Did you get incorrect information about Duane and the player selection process?
Quote from: jesmu84 on July 24, 2019, 06:52:19 PM
Did you get incorrect information about Duane and the player selection process?
Duane was very upset about the process. He publicly posted he was salty about it .
Thankfully they came to their senses( or someone couldn't make it ) and it appears he is a part of the team on some level.
I have great respect for how Duane conducted himself at MU, the achievements he made at TAMU before he got hurt and how incredibly hard he has worked to get back into shape. He went down with to Atlanta with JJJ and they played on Lou Williams pro am team in Atlanta and did very well.
Duane is a Marquette and 414 loyalist and even sends his young Kobe to MU camps so just wanted to see MU embrace someone he is putting their heart and soul into it.
Quote from: genious expert on July 24, 2019, 07:01:08 AM
These guys are trying to win money Herman. And Derrick is a better player.
That's... just not true.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 24, 2019, 08:58:30 PM
Duane is a Marquette and 414 loyalist and even sends his young Kobe to MU camps so just wanted to see MU embrace someone he is putting their heart and soul into it.
Again, MU had/has no say in the roster construction.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 24, 2019, 10:56:11 PM
Again, MU had/has no say in the roster construction.
Facts no matta to Herman
Cool photo
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1154403687944638464?s=21
Duane says he got put on the roster late and won't be eligible till next weekend. So hopefully we can make it through to the next weekend.
I see JJJ is in town so who knows....:)
In case anyone was wondering,Luke Fischer had shoulder surgery on March 22 so unable to participate.
https://twitter.com/GranCanariaCB/status/1109062542947770368
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 25, 2019, 08:27:09 PM
In case anyone was wondering,Luke Fischer had shoulder surgery on March 22 so unable to participate.
https://twitter.com/GranCanariaCB/status/1109062542947770368
Wow feel bad for him that shoulder has really messed him up
Game time tomorrow?
In watching some of the games...with the quality of the basketball and the parochial interest in some of the teams (the crowd in Wichita last night was evidence), I have wondered if there would be a path to make this into an actual league that could generate enough interest to make it financially viable. The MU team could play home games at the AL as an example. I know the market is flooded with D league, multiple foreign leagues and levels, etc.....but something resonates differently with seeing popular alumni playing together under the quasi-banner of their former schools or under an umbrella of local geographic interest. It would have to be in the right markets and would have to put enough financial interest in it to retain players on U.S. soil and it would probably still fail, but, just sharing a thought that crossed my mind. Maybe the true allure is the all-in nature of it going on for a few weeks for a million dollar prize....perhaps you could retain that for the league and playoff winner. Just a thought. There is just enough uniqueness coming through in these games that I couldn't help but think maybe there is something to build upon that offers something fresh in the market.
the announcers mentioned that each of the 8 regional winners will get 25% of the paid attendance for that region. The number they threw out for the Wichita region is about $80,000 to the winning team.
A little something if they fall short of the $2 million overall winners share.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on July 26, 2019, 08:58:15 AM
the announcers mentioned that each of the 8 regional winners will get 25% of the paid attendance for that region. The number they threw out for the Wichita region is about $80,000 to the winning team.
A little something if they fall short of the $2 million overall winners share.
Wichita was by far the most lucrative of the 8 regions.
Quote from: Da 'Lanche on July 26, 2019, 08:15:26 AM
In watching some of the games...with the quality of the basketball and the parochial interest in some of the teams (the crowd in Wichita last night was evidence), I have wondered if there would be a path to make this into an actual league that could generate enough interest to make it financially viable. The MU team could play home games at the AL as an example. I know the market is flooded with D league, multiple foreign leagues and levels, etc.....but something resonates differently with seeing popular alumni playing together under the quasi-banner of their former schools or under an umbrella of local geographic interest. It would have to be in the right markets and would have to put enough financial interest in it to retain players on U.S. soil and it would probably still fail, but, just sharing a thought that crossed my mind. Maybe the true allure is the all-in nature of it going on for a few weeks for a million dollar prize....perhaps you could retain that for the league and playoff winner. Just a thought. There is just enough uniqueness coming through in these games that I couldn't help but think maybe there is something to build upon that offers something fresh in the market.
Novelty would wear off if this wasn't once a year.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on July 26, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
Novelty would wear off if this wasn't once a year.
True plus many play in Europe and other markets
Quote from: Newsdreams on July 26, 2019, 02:31:06 PM
True plus many play in Europe and other markets
and they make much more playing in Europe/overseas, usually untaxed too.
Dang it.. the chat room doesn't seem to be working on here...
I created a quick one ---
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530 (http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530)
So, who won?
MU up 1 pt at half.
Thanks. I'm stuck having to watch Boeheim's Army playing somebody, and announcers eem reluctant to mention other games.
MU up 77-63 with 5:30 leftt in 4th.
Quote from: wildbill sb on July 26, 2019, 06:57:53 PM
Thanks. I'm stuck having to watch Boeheim's Army playing somebody, and announcers eem reluctant to mention other games.
Game is on the ESPN app.
Favorite play: The Rowsey fake behind the back to his own layup.
And total props to Derrick. Dude did the dirty work all game long.
Regular ESPN tomorrow and Sunday. 1p and 3p, respectively.
Buycks stud of the game
All rrrrrrightttt!. That's what I want to hear. Many Thanks!
Team Colorado it is
Highlights. We're in Navy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaqGEy3yZvI
I have fin boeheins army!!!
Ah 1 pm cst 😰
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530
chat
Who the heck is Elgin Cook?
Quote from: wildbill sb on July 27, 2019, 02:19:48 PM
Who the heck is Elgin Cook?
Milwaukee guy who went Juco and then to Oregon. Had some issues off court. His father is Alvin Robertson, former NBA player.
Charlo sucks
Choke time.
Great win
Chapman > Wojo
Elgin Cook should have an honorary degree printed now as far as I'm concerned.
Quote from: PTM on July 27, 2019, 02:52:58 PM
....did you see that timeout....
Right? Couldnt even get into the first set or the backup option. Fun game though!
Quote from: PTM on July 27, 2019, 02:46:19 PM
Charlo sucks
Upon further review..... that was a nice pass to set up the winning shot.
Quote from: StateStreetMission on July 27, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
Upon further review..... that was a nice pass to set up the winning shot.
He also had the rebound on the other end to start that possession.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 27, 2019, 02:57:05 PM
Elgin Cook should have an honorary degree printed now as far as I'm concerned.
We can give him Bill Cosby's
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 27, 2019, 03:12:54 PM
He also had the rebound on the other end to start that possession.
The end of 3rd quarter buzzer beater 3 ?
Was that Charlo or Cook ?
Quote from: StateStreetMission on July 27, 2019, 03:18:24 PM
The halftime buzzer beater 3 ?
Was that Charlo or Cook ?
Cook — pass was from Charlo
What say you 4ever Doc
https://twitter.com/tomcrean/status/1155204061827928065?s=21
@TomCrean
Never, EVER doubt the @thetournament Golden Eagles !!! BIGTIME win for the @joechap32 group. Keep it Going !!
Anyone see Charlo raise his arms to celebrate Cook's winner before it went in? Shades of Travis Diener to Steve Novak vs Kentucky in 2003.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 27, 2019, 03:51:39 PM
Anyone see Charlo raise his arms to celebrate Cook's winner before it went in? Shades of Travis Diener to Steve Novak vs Kentucky in 2003.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1155203823666978819?s=21
Chap's cuddles are way better than Wojo's
I think Elgin Cook played at Milw. Hamilton for Tom Diener alongside Kevon Looney.
Cook transferred for his senior year to Christian Life Center Academy in Houston. Which also was Cadougan's school.
Originally committed to Iowa State, went juco, then surfaced at Oregon.
He lived with his father, Alvin Robertson, while in Houston. Robertson had connections with an assistant at Oregon.
Quote from: MU82 on July 27, 2019, 03:56:29 PM
Chap's cuddles are way better than Wojo's
Draws actual plays, but has to erase with hands.GM is cheap won't even buy eraser or cloth
Elam ending is fun as unnatural carnal knowledge
Summertime COOKing! ;D
Positive is the big shot to win, the negative is the massive choke job in the last 5 minutes
Quote from: #UnleashCain on July 27, 2019, 04:06:27 PM
Elam ending is fun as unnatural carnal knowledge
I agree, love the Elam ending.
And I love this tourney ... great way to engage with the program in the middle of the summer.
Missed the last few minutes, how much time was left?
Elam score is 83? Some games went higher?
Elam ending is the best
Quote from: Newsdreams on July 27, 2019, 03:34:10 PM
What say you 4ever Doc
https://twitter.com/tomcrean/status/1155204061827928065?s=21
@TomCrean
Never, EVER doubt the @thetournament Golden Eagles !!! BIGTIME win for the @joechap32 group. Keep it Going !!
Crean sucks
Quote from: PTM on July 27, 2019, 05:03:21 PM
Elam ending is the best
Could be wrong here but wouldn't we have lost to Davidson if the Elam ending became a thing? Maybe I'm a traditionalist but I like classic ball
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 27, 2019, 04:59:41 PM
Missed the last few minutes, how much time was left?
Elam score is 83? Some games went higher?
After first dead ball 4 minutes or less 8 points added to lead score first team to that score wins, only 30 second clock on.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 27, 2019, 05:20:28 PM
Could be wrong here but wouldn't we have lost to Davidson if the Elam ending became a thing? Maybe I'm a traditionalist but I like classic ball
Would've been a whole different game though. It'll never come to NCAA or NBA, but it's fun as crap in this environment
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfQGi6C1dfM
Quote from: PTM on July 27, 2019, 05:03:21 PM
Elam ending is the best
In close games, it's great. In blowouts, I don't like it as much. Not sure why, but the increase from 7 to 8 has led to far more exciting Elam finishes this year. I liked it last year, but it lost its luster when the margins got big. This year has seemed exciting continuously.
Oh, we be Cookin' now. Unreal.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 27, 2019, 07:19:41 PM
In close games, it's great. In blowouts, I don't like it as much. Not sure why, but the increase from 7 to 8 has led to far more exciting Elam finishes this year. I liked it last year, but it lost its luster when the margins got big. This year has seemed exciting continuously.
It's great as it stops the fouling as well as the endless time outs. The last two minutes of a CBB game can be terrible because what you are doing is watching commercials, not basketball.
If the NCAA does not adopt the Elam ending, it should look into ways to speed up the end of the game.
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on July 27, 2019, 08:52:52 PM
It's great as it stops the fouling as well as the endless time outs. The last two minutes of a CBB game can be terrible because what you are doing is watching commercials, not basketball.
If the NCAA does not adopt the Elam ending, it should look into ways to speed up the end of the game.
I think quarters and the five foul bonus per quarter, with two shots, come first. Plus, they could speed up the replay system by charging time outs.
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on July 27, 2019, 08:52:52 PM
It's great as it stops the fouling as well as the endless time outs. The last two minutes of a CBB game can be terrible because what you are doing is watching commercials, not basketball.
If the NCAA does not adopt the Elam ending, it should look into ways to speed up the end of the game.
A number of games last year, especially with big leads, just devolved to the team in the lead repeatedly launching long threes to try to end the game sooner and the team trailing repeatedly launching long threes to play catch-up.
It's great when it's close and both teams are still playing, but a few of those games turned into ugly brickfests. But that doesn't make it a perfect solve that I want to see adopted universally.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 27, 2019, 09:06:41 PM
A number of games last year, especially with big leads, just devolved to the team in the lead repeatedly launching long threes to try to end the game sooner and the team trailing repeatedly launching long threes to play catch-up.
It's great when it's close and both teams are still playing, but a few of those games turned into ugly brickfests. But that doesn't make it a perfect solve that I want to see adopted universally.
Agree that its fun and that is most likely not the ultimate answer
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on July 27, 2019, 09:34:55 PM
Agree that its fun and that is most likely not the ultimate answer
Love it in the TBT and hope that is where it stays. Part of what makes it fund is the novelty of it.
chat time
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530
Buycks SOTG
Let me preface by saying sorry if this has been mentioned but I didn't feel like scrolling through 11 pages. ;D
But what does the black patch with initials 'DG' on their jerseys stand for?
Thanks!
Roll call for Thursday?
Did the team win $100K for being regional champs?
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 28, 2019, 05:30:40 PM
Did the team win $100K for being regional champs?
Just about. $96,600 for winning Wichita, by far the biggest regional check.
Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfUahCaQzCM
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 28, 2019, 05:56:55 PM
Just about. $96,600 for winning Wichita, by far the biggest regional check.
Could you explain how that works, I did not know that. Thanks.
Quote from: Anti-Dentite on July 28, 2019, 07:12:02 PM
Could you explain how that works, I did not know that. Thanks.
This year, the regional winners get 25% of the gate at that location. MU's alums take is probably the largest by far due to the Wichita St. prescience.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 28, 2019, 07:19:25 PM
This year, the regional winners get 25% of the gate at that location. MU's alums take is probably the largest by far due to the Wichita St. prescience.
The Wichita site sold really well because they held it in their full size arena and in addition to WSU fans, they also had teams from Kansas & K-State there. I think most of the sites were smaller arenas (like the Al) and didn't have as many large, local fanbases.
They want MU fan support
https://twitter.com/joechap32/status/1155600737763758080?s=21
Swaggy gonna be the x-factor next week.
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1155645713453334530?s=21
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 28, 2019, 08:13:23 PM
Swaggy gonna be the x-factor next week.
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1155645713453334530?s=21
Swaggy has been working hard to rehab and get his swag back.
Also after all these years Duane will finally realize on playing on the same team with his cousin Jamil. ( Duane had to sit out freshman year)
https://marquettewire.org/3847697/tv/duane-wilson-talks-about-playing-with-cousin-jamil/
I've seen 7 pm from MU and 9 pm from Joe Chap.
Is there an early game at 7 and MU at 9?
Ticket cost?
Changed schedule to be down in Chicago on Thursday.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 28, 2019, 08:13:23 PM
Swaggy gonna be the x-factor next week.
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1155645713453334530?s=21
No he's not.
https://twitter.com/swaggydu1/status/1155649567498612737?s=21
After watching them today, they don't need Duane Wilson. What does he bring that other players aren't providing?
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 28, 2019, 07:19:25 PM
This year, the regional winners get 25% of the gate at that location. MU's alums take is probably the largest by far due to the Wichita St. prescience.
Thanks to both of you for the explanation.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 28, 2019, 09:12:31 PM
After watching them today, they don't need Duane Wilson. What does he bring that other players aren't providing?
Duane would be very valuable because when it gets to the end of the game, Swaggy can play both ways. Derrick(no O) , Acker/Rowsey (no D) and have to be switched in and out. Gets tricky when the time outs run out.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 28, 2019, 09:49:59 PM
Duane would be very valuable because when it gets to the end of the game, Swaggy can play both ways. Derrick(no O) , Acker/Rowsey (no D) and have to be switched in and out. Gets tricky when the time outs run out.
Anyone know why he isn't on the team? I saw a picture of them all after practice and he was there but was pretty much the only one not on the actual team.
Quote from: AirPunch on July 28, 2019, 09:51:51 PM
Anyone know why he isn't on the team? I saw a picture of them all after practice and he was there but was pretty much the only one not on the actual team.
Very bad treatment of Duane.
https://twitter.com/SwaggyDu1/status/1155677701967138816
Quote from: AirPunch on July 28, 2019, 09:51:51 PM
Anyone know why he isn't on the team? I saw a picture of them all after practice and he was there but was pretty much the only one not on the actual team.
Likely because they already have Bucyks, Acker and Rowsey filling the same role.
Quote from: AirPunch on July 28, 2019, 09:51:51 PM
Anyone know why he isn't on the team? I saw a picture of them all after practice and he was there but was pretty much the only one not on the actual team.
Jerel was also at practices and not on the team. TBT limits roster size and you have to pay for more players. The three guys added outside Marquette were 6'6"+. I would guess they had 8 spots and prioritized adding some size while keeping Marquette guys, most of which have been on the team before (Jamil, Buycks, Derrick, Acker). That left room for one newcomer, and Rowsey is a better shooter.
I would guess the TBT guys are interested and comfortable with Duane but had to make a cutoff somewhere. We have one of the deepest guard pools in TBT. The good news is there are guys like Duane available in the future.
I think people have an over-romanticized version of the gifts Duane brings to the table.
Let me understand this...we beat a team yesterday sponsored by PRN with the sole purpose of targeting Markus, even with their team name?
Dedication!
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 29, 2019, 07:34:32 AM
Jerel was also at practices and not on the team. TBT limits roster size and you have to pay for more players. The three guys added outside Marquette were 6'6"+. I would guess they had 8 spots and prioritized adding some size while keeping Marquette guys, most of which have been on the team before (Jamil, Buycks, Derrick, Acker). That left room for one newcomer, and Rowsey is a better shooter.
I would guess the TBT guys are interested and comfortable with Duane but had to make a cutoff somewhere. We have one of the deepest guard pools in TBT. The good news is there are guys like Duane available in the future.
I also think we all know there might be some politics here too. My understanding is that Ike Wilson is no fan of Wojo's. While Joe Chapman runs basketball camps with the likes of Steve Novak and Travis Deiner. And of course Dan Fitzgerald is an employee of the University.
Now I don't know how much any of this actually played in the decisions regarding roster, but I don't think it is wrong to say that tensions may exist.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2019, 08:25:25 AM
I also think we all know there might be some politics here too. My understanding is that Ike Wilson is no fan of Wojo's. While Joe Chapman runs basketball camps with the likes of Steve Novak and Travis Deiner. And of course Dan Fitzgerald is an employee of the University.
Now I don't know how much any of this actually played in the decisions regarding roster, but I don't think it is wrong to say that tensions may exist.
Duane has also done some coaching at CBA (Chapman Basketball Academy), just like Steve and Travis.
Quote from: The Lens on July 29, 2019, 08:34:03 AM
Duane has also done some coaching at CBA (Chapman Basketball Academy), just like Steve and Travis.
OK thanks. I'll just shut up now.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2019, 07:53:09 AM
I think people have an over-romanticized version of the gifts Duane brings to the table.
So it's just like his redshirt year, then.
Quote from: saucy1_23 on July 28, 2019, 04:50:20 PM
Let me preface by saying sorry if this has been mentioned but I didn't feel like scrolling through 11 pages. ;D
But what does the black patch with initials 'DG' on their jerseys stand for?
Thanks!
Davante Gardner
Quote from: Cheeks on July 29, 2019, 08:18:20 AM
Let me understand this...we beat a team yesterday sponsored by PRN with the sole purpose of targeting Markus, even with their team name?
Dedication!
But he's never on the sidelines... :P
The online roster is completely different than the roster playing. Anderson and Deiner are listed online.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 28, 2019, 07:46:44 PM
The Wichita site sold really well because they held it in their full size arena and in addition to WSU fans, they also had teams from Kansas & K-State there. I think most of the sites were smaller arenas (like the Al) and didn't have as many large, local fanbases.
To add to this...
Wichita: $96,396
Syracuse: $30,903
Columbus: $21,025
Richmond: $17,349
Memphis: $6226
Lexington: $5343
Greensboro: $3732
Salt Lake: $3584
I actually thought this and Googled to make sure he's alive. But that's not it. Anyone else know?
Quote from: BrewCity83 on July 29, 2019, 08:59:40 AM
Davante Gardner
Quote from: saucy1_23 on July 29, 2019, 10:19:51 AM
I actually thought this and Googled to make sure he's alive. But that's not it. Anyone else know?
DG=Dyck Grabber
Quote from: saucy1_23 on July 29, 2019, 10:19:51 AM
I actually thought this and Googled to make sure he's alive. But that's not it. Anyone else know?
Got this off a google search.
https://twitter.com/teamarkansastbt/status/1148650308991500288?s=21
TBT employee who recently passed is the best guess.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 29, 2019, 09:02:00 AM
The online roster is completely different than the roster playing. Anderson and Deiner are listed online.
deiner is listed as a coach.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 29, 2019, 09:02:00 AM
The online roster is completely different than the roster playing. Anderson and Deiner are listed online.
Juan Anderson is the only player listed that didn't play over the weekend.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on July 29, 2019, 11:07:09 AM
Juan Anderson is the only player listed that didn't play over the weekend.
My bad thought Travis was a player
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2019, 07:53:09 AM
I think people have an over-romanticized version of the gifts Duane brings to the table.
Yup.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/duane-wilson-1.html
Quote from: genious expert on July 29, 2019, 12:09:07 PM
Yup.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/duane-wilson-1.html
I liked Duane as a player, thought he was a tough kid and a good teammate who gave everything the coaches asked of him. But he was never more than a role player (and I don't mean that as a big insult -- coaches LOVE players who are willing and able to fill roles, and do so without complaint). I even felt happy for him when he transferred and had some success.
Biggest surprise to me was how poor to mediocre he shot the 3 after shooting something like 50% in high school. Also was a surprisingly bad FT shooter (though I know they don't matta ... except when we needed the points).
Quote from: MU82 on July 29, 2019, 12:53:01 PM
I liked Duane as a player, thought he was a tough kid and a good teammate who gave everything the coaches asked of him. But he was never more than a role player (and I don't mean that as a big insult -- coaches LOVE players who are willing and able to fill roles, and do so without complaint). I even felt happy for him when he transferred and had some success.
Biggest surprise to me was how poor to mediocre he shot the 3 after shooting something like 50% in high school. Also was a surprisingly bad FT shooter (though I know they don't matta ... except when we needed the points).
He was our second best player on probably the worst team MU's had since Crean's second year. If that doesn't scream star I don't know what does.
Thanks Cheebs!
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 29, 2019, 10:34:04 AM
Got this off a google search.
https://twitter.com/teamarkansastbt/status/1148650308991500288?s=21
TBT employee who recently passed is the best guess.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on July 29, 2019, 09:00:21 AM
But he's never on the sidelines... :P
Thus the push to sideline him.... ;)
Quote from: MU82 on July 29, 2019, 12:53:01 PM
I liked Duane as a player, thought he was a tough kid and a good teammate who gave everything the coaches asked of him. But he was never more than a role player (and I don't mean that as a big insult -- coaches LOVE players who are willing and able to fill roles, and do so without complaint). I even felt happy for him when he transferred and had some success.
Biggest surprise to me was how poor to mediocre he shot the 3 after shooting something like 50% in high school. Also was a surprisingly bad FT shooter (though I know they don't matta ... except when we needed the points).
1. Duane willingly took a lesser role for the betterment of the team in 2016-17. He started down the stretch toward our tournament run because he was willing to be a glue guy.
2. He was finally healthy for a period during his grad transfer year at TAMU and did very well in a classic point guard role in a team that hovered around the top 10 until he was injured.
3 . He is healthy now and has been working out hard . A healthy Swaggy is a talented Swaggy.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
1. Duane willingly took a lesser role for the betterment of the team in 2016-17. He started down the stretch toward our tournament run because he was willing to be a glue guy.
2. He was finally healthy for a period during his grad transfer year at TAMU and did very well in a classic point guard role in a team that hovered around the top 10 until he was injured.
3 . He is healthy now and has been working out hard . A healthy Swaggy is a talented Swaggy.
Thanks, Mr. Wilson!
Quote from: Cheeks on July 29, 2019, 01:49:02 PM
Thus the push to sideline him.... ;)
Aha, so not an adjective and a noun, a declarative sentence!
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
1. Duane willingly took a lesser role for the betterment of the team in 2016-17. He started down the stretch toward our tournament run because he was willing to be a glue guy.
2. He was finally healthy for a period during his grad transfer year at TAMU and did very well in a classic point guard role in a team that hovered around the top 10 until he was injured.
3 . He is healthy now and has been working out hard . A healthy Swaggy is a talented Swaggy.
Does he have a job playing hoops overseas this year now that he is healthy?
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
1. Duane willingly took a lesser role for the betterment of the team in 2016-17. He started down the stretch toward our tournament run because he was willing to be a glue guy.
2. He was finally healthy for a period during his grad transfer year at TAMU and did very well in a classic point guard role in a team that hovered around the top 10 until he was injured.
3 . He is healthy now and has been working out hard . A healthy Swaggy is a talented Swaggy.
He was the 8th best player on the team that year. Markus, JaJuan, Rowsey, Fischer, Reinhardt, Hauser, Cheatham. You could even argue Matt Heldt had a better season than him.
Quote from: genious expert on July 29, 2019, 04:33:27 PM
He was the 8th best player on the team that year. Markus, JaJuan, Rowsey, Fischer, Reinhardt, Hauser, Cheatham. You could even argue Matt Heldt had a better season than him.
He took a glue guy defensive stopper role that does not readily translate into statistics. Bottom line when we got to the most important game of the season he was in the starting lineup .
Also he was not healthy sophomore or junior year.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 04:58:04 PM
He took a glue guy defensive stopper role that does not readily translate into statistics. Bottom line when we got to the most important game of the season he was in the starting lineup .
Also he was not healthy sophomore or junior year.
Exactly. He was a decent option off the bench. That's pretty much it. Stop making it more than that.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
Exactly. He was a decent option off the bench. That's pretty much it. Stop making it more than that.
Duane had an outstanding freshman year when he was healthy. Duane had a very outstanding senior year until he got hurt.
Sophomore and Junior year he was hurt.
In D1 when a kid gets hurt it is hard to compete.
If it works differently at St. Norberts let us know.
For anyone going to Chicago, Marquette will sit in front of section 106/107 on Thursday. I called them to make sure.
Quote from: kryza on July 29, 2019, 05:44:49 PM
For anyone going to Chicago, Marquette will sit in front of section 106/107 on Thursday. I called them to make sure.
Nice.
Quote from: kryza on July 29, 2019, 05:44:49 PM
For anyone going to Chicago, Marquette will sit in front of section 106/107 on Thursday. I called them to make sure.
Where's Duane sitting?
Quote from: PTM on July 29, 2019, 05:50:54 PM
Where's Duane sitting?
In between Kostas and Jeenathan.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 04:58:04 PM
He took a glue guy defensive stopper role that does not readily translate into statistics. Bottom line when we got to the most important game of the season he was in the starting lineup .
Also he was not healthy sophomore or junior year.
Actually, his defensive stats were pretty poor that season. He had a good steal% (2nd best behind JJJ) but his points per possession allowed was 2nd worst on the team and his defensive win shares and defensive +/- were both 5th best in a 9 man rotation. Combined with his bad offense, he was clearly one of the last two guys in the rotation.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Duane had an outstanding freshman year when he was healthy. Duane had a very outstanding senior year until he got hurt.
Sophomore and Junior year he was hurt.
In D1 when a kid gets hurt it is hard to compete.
If it works differently at St. Norberts let us know.
No one is questioning that Duane wasn't hurt. No one is questioning that if Duane wasn't hurt he could've (or maybe would've is more accurate) been a stud for us. Hell, I don't think it it is a stretch to say that if he was 100% healthy that he could have made the association. But he was hurt and he wasn't a stud because of it.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Duane had a very outstanding senior year until he got hurt.
97 ORtg with an eFG% of 44.6% and turnover rate of nearly 24%. **shrug**
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Duane had an outstanding freshman year when he was healthy. Duane had a very outstanding senior year until he got hurt.
Sophomore and Junior year he was hurt.
In D1 when a kid gets hurt it is hard to compete.
If it works differently at St. Norberts let us know.
well played HC...well played
Quote from: PTM on July 29, 2019, 05:50:54 PM
Where's Duane sitting?
When I read this, I thought: "That's cold."
Then I read this ...
Quote from: Its DJOver on July 29, 2019, 06:05:29 PM
In between Kostas and Jeenathan.
Cracked me up.
Nice routine, youse two.
Quote from: We R Final Four on July 29, 2019, 08:30:32 PM
Not next to Sultan.
yeah, where did that little monster go?
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
1. Duane willingly took a lesser role for the betterment of the team in 2016-17. He started down the stretch toward our tournament run because he was willing to be a glue guy.
2. He was finally healthy for a period during his grad transfer year at TAMU and did very well in a classic point guard role in a team that hovered around the top 10 until he was injured.
3 . He is healthy now and has been working out hard . A healthy Swaggy is a talented Swaggy.
Duane never looked the same to me post injury, which pretty much meant his entire college career. Take away the bounce & explosiveness from a smaller guy and unfortunately his game suffers.
A fully healthy Duane and a fully healthy Fulce are 2 players I really wish we could have seen but never did.
Assuming tickets are available at the gate? $15 ticket turns into $27 with ticketmaster fees.
Quote from: KampusFoods on July 30, 2019, 08:02:33 AM
Assuming tickets are available at the gate? $15 ticket turns into $27 with ticketmaster fees.
Wow! An 80% markup? That's kinda crazy.
https://twitter.com/overseaselite/status/1156261641647984640
Wonder if we'll get Elmore explaining that it's not really a travel even though it looks like a travel and he takes three steps.
Quote from: drewm88 on July 29, 2019, 09:57:34 AM
To add to this...
Wichita: $96,396
Syracuse: $30,903
Columbus: $21,025
Richmond: $17,349
Memphis: $6226
Lexington: $5343
Greensboro: $3732
Salt Lake: $3584
They showed the breakdown of what the players/coach/gm get $$$ wise if they win the tournament during the game. Anyone see that and remember the numbers?
Quote from: wesmat23 on July 30, 2019, 08:16:57 PM
They showed the breakdown of what the players/coach/gm get $$$ wise if they win the tournament during the game. Anyone see that and remember the numbers?
It's all listed on the tournament website.
https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni
Quote from: StillAWarrior on July 30, 2019, 08:51:31 PM
It's all listed on the tournament website.
https://www.thetournament.com/teams/golden-eagles-marquette-alumni
Diener is now listed as point guard instead of coach. Is he playing now?
I was gonna say, did we pick up Diener and this Jarvis Williams dude for the quarterfinals?
Quote from: #UnleashCain on July 30, 2019, 10:48:45 PM
Diener is now listed as point guard instead of coach. Is he playing now?
Diener is playing.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1156404099799244800?s=21
Who is Jarvis Williams replacing?
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 31, 2019, 07:37:39 AM
Who is Jarvis Williams replacing?
He is from Milwaukee. Played at UW-GB and Mankato. He's been overseas and a couple of games in the G-League. Not sure who he is replacing.
Quarterfinals
Wintrust Arena | Chicago, IL
Date Game Time (CT) Round Game # Matchup Network
Thursday, August 1 6:00PM Round 4 Game 1 (1) Carmen's Crew (Ohio State) vs (1) Eberlein Drive (ESPN)
Thursday, August 1 8:00PM Round 4 Game 2 (8) Jackson TN vs (1) Golden Eagles (ESPNU)
Friday, August 2 6:00PM Round 4 Game 3 (1) Loyalty Is Love vs (1) Overseas Elite (ESPN)
Friday, August 2 8:00PM Puma Posterize Dunk Contest (ESPN2)
Friday, August 2 8:30PM Round 4 Game 4 (1) Team Hines vs (3) Brotherly Love (ESPN2)
What is McNeal's status?
He still isn't listed on the roster. There was talk/hope he might be able to play if they made it to Chicago.
Quote from: genious expert on July 31, 2019, 08:20:59 AM
He is from Milwaukee. Played at UW-GB and Mankato. He's been overseas and a couple of games in the G-League. Not sure who he is replacing.
That's the best we could get? Between the entire MU network and all the basketball players in MKE that's rough
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 31, 2019, 08:31:29 AM
That's the best we could get? Between the entire MU network and all the basketball players in MKE that's rough
He's 28 and played a lot of professional basketball. Europe, Central America, Asia... I wouldn't count out a guy because of where he played in college.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 31, 2019, 07:37:39 AM
Who is Jarvis Williams replacing?
I thought you were connected when it came to TBT stuff.
That's the claim you've made when it comes Duane's involvement
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 30, 2019, 11:49:38 PM
Diener is playing.
https://twitter.com/thetournament/status/1156404099799244800?s=21
1st comment by Diener ;D
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 31, 2019, 08:44:55 AM
He's 28 and played a lot of professional basketball. Europe, Central America, Asia... I wouldn't count out a guy because of where he played in college.
Yeah, and when you look at the success of Overseas Elite, finding guys who have been consistently playing competitive ball for years might be the recipe for winning this tourney. I'm not going to second-guess the decisions of Fitzgerald & Co. - they've put together good teams thus far. And as much as the prize money is the driver, guys like Fitzgerald and Chapman are probably using this experience as a big resume-builder for their non-playing bball careers. It'd be easier to put together an all-MU squad and call it a day, but actually going out and creating a cohesive team made up of MU and non-MU players is pretty impressive.
Yesterday the Overseas Elite team added forward Sam Young, formerly of Pitt. Then Tony Taylor, a guard from George Washington.
Then this morning, dropped Sam Young and added three additional frontcourt players.
Drew Gordon-UCLA/New Mexico,
Jonathon Simmons-Houston, 258 games in NBA, last year with Philly and Orlando
Walter Sharpe-Miss State/UAB; another 6-9 250 guy
Best news for the Golden Eagles team is the side of the bracket they are on. Overseas Elite, Eberlein Drive, Loyalty is Love, and Carmen's Crew are arguably 4 of the 5 strongest teams, but our boys only have to play at most one of them and then in the Final. They could probably still benefit from adding a player or two.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on July 31, 2019, 01:00:20 PM
Yesterday the Overseas Elite team added forward Sam Young
I think the TBT should have a pump fake competition during half-time of the final. Rowsey vs. Sam.
The seeding in the Memphis regional was all messed up. The lower seed won all but 1 game (the 2 vs. 7 first round matchup). The 8th seeded Jackson, TN Underdogs won their 3 games by an average of 17.7 points. Should we be worried?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 31, 2019, 01:32:20 PM
The seeding in the Memphis regional was all messed up. The lower seed won all but 1 game (the 2 vs. 7 first round matchup). The 8th seeded Jackson, TN Underdogs won their 3 games by an average of 17.7 points. Should we be worried?
That's a weird team. They only have two professional basketball players. The rest are bartenders, truck drivers, and other locals who mostly played for two local rival high schools in Jackson.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 31, 2019, 01:38:11 PM
That's a weird team. They only have two professional basketball players. The rest are bartenders, truck drivers, and other locals who mostly played for two local rival high schools in Jackson.
They have played together in competitions like this for years.
Jerel in
https://twitter.com/jsteppe1/status/1156620615891259397?s=21
Ahead of tomorrow's @thetournament quarterfinal game, @GoldenEaglesTBT is adding #mubb alumni Travis Diener and Jerel McNeal.
Milwaukee native Jarvis Williams will also join the team.
Lets DO THIS!!!
I haven't watched this year's TBT yet because I was on vacation and doing other things, but I do expect to watch tomorrow night.
Obviously, I will be rooting for this team.
Still, I can't bring myself to call 'em "we." I have no qualms with those who do say "we," I'm just not feelin' it.
Quote from: MU82 on July 31, 2019, 03:51:53 PM
I haven't watched this year's TBT yet because I was on vacation and doing other things, but I do expect to watch tomorrow night.
Obviously, I will be rooting for this team.
Still, I can't bring myself to call 'em "we." I have no qualms with those who do say "we," I'm just not feelin' it.
If you don't work normally, is it really vacation?
Glad to hear your stance on "we". I exclude you when I say it, so we're aligned!
Hope WE do well the rest of the way... will be interesting to see how Joe C plays it. Be smart.
Quote from: MU82 on July 31, 2019, 03:51:53 PMStill, I can't bring myself to call 'em "we." I have no qualms with those who do say "we," I'm just not feelin' it.
If "we" end up winning the money and I'm $1,000+ richer, I'll definitely be feeling it.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 31, 2019, 03:55:35 PM
If you don't work normally, is it really vacation?
Glad to hear your stance on "we". I exclude you when I say it, so we're aligned!
Hope WE do well the rest of the way... will be interesting to see how Joe C plays it. Be smart.
Does the bolded "we" include him, though?
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 31, 2019, 03:59:58 PM
If "we" end up winning the money and I'm $1,000+ richer, I'll definitely be feeling it.
You and other investors are most definitely "allowed" to say we. For that matter, anybody is allowed to say we.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 31, 2019, 03:55:35 PM
If you don't work normally, is it really vacation?
Weirdly obsessed with this. I guess weird obsessions go along with never getting laid.
Use promo code goldeneagles on Ticketmaster for 25% off any of the Chicago games.
Would it ever become worth it to Wade to play? Like could he play a game or two and make $200,000 if they win it all? Even at his worth that's a decent pay day for a couple games.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 31, 2019, 08:54:03 PM
Would it ever become worth it to Wade to play? Like could he play a game or two and make $200,000 if they win it all? Even at his worth that's a decent pay day for a couple games.
He no longer is on in the NBA contract so he doesn't really need to be paid his "worth" to play because of risking injury. I think it's more of a passion thing. If he wanted to play in an MU uniform again he would. But also the tournament would have to be much much bigger by then and have pretty large crowds.
This is all theoretical though and what I'd do in his shoes.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 31, 2019, 08:57:31 PM
He no longer is on in the NBA contract so he doesn't really need to be paid his "worth" to play because of risking injury. I think it's more of a passion thing. If he wanted to play in an MU uniform again he would. But also the tournament would have to be much much bigger by then and have pretty large crowds.
This is all theoretical though and what I'd do in his shoes.
I'm saying would it be worth it for him to play this year? Like say they make the championship game. Don't the players each get about $200,000? He could make $200,000 for playing a single game.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 31, 2019, 09:04:22 PM
I'm saying would it be worth it for him to play this year? Like say they make the championship game. Don't the players each get about $200,000? He could make $200,000 for playing a single game.
The guy has a sterling reputation. It is not worth 200k to risk that potentially playing bad in a pickup game that is nationally televised.
On the other hand , I think the math and circumstances works well for guys like Buycks, Jamil and Travis.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 31, 2019, 09:04:22 PM
I'm saying would it be worth it for him to play this year? Like say they make the championship game. Don't the players each get about $200,000? He could make $200,000 for playing a single game.
He is normally vacationing with his family all over Europe this time of year. But this year Gabrielle has been a judge on AGT and Wade was a guest judge. They're having their own kind of fun. Would be easier to get Novak I would think.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 31, 2019, 08:54:03 PM
Would it ever become worth it to Wade to play? Like could he play a game or two and make $200,000 if they win it all? Even at his worth that's a decent pay day for a couple games.
That doesn't even pay his maid service. Why tarnish his reputation by playing? Jordan hung on too long.
Coaching I can see.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 31, 2019, 09:31:56 PM
That doesn't even pay his maid service. Why tarnish his reputation by playing? Jordan hung on too long.
Coaching I can see.
Jordan averaged 20ppg, 6rpg and 4.8apg his last year. I don't think anyone would fault wade for coming in with that stat line when he's meant to be retired.
Agree it wouldn't pay his maid. Figure it'd have to be an emotional thing
Quote from: Galway Eagle on July 31, 2019, 09:40:09 PM
Jordan averaged 20ppg, 6rpg and 4.8apg his last year. I don't think anyone would fault wade for coming in with that stat line when he's meant to be retired.
It had a Mexican wrestling feel to it.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 31, 2019, 11:57:38 PM
It had a Mexican wrestling feel to it.
So does the TBT lol
Quote from: Newsdreams on July 31, 2019, 09:22:22 PM
He is normally vacationing with his family all over Europe this time of year. But this year Gabrielle has been a judge on AGT and Wade was a guest judge. They're having their own kind of fun. Would be easier to get Novak I would think.
But if you don't work currently, is it really vacation?
Back to Thursday...
Where is Dwyane sitting?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 31, 2019, 09:31:56 PM
That doesn't even pay his maid service. Why tarnish his reputation by playing? Jordan hung on too long.
Coaching I can see.
I could see him doing it and donating his share to Boys and Girls Cubs
Jordan's first year with the Wizards, he was a leading MVP candidate 50+ games into the season -- averaging 25-6-5 for a team that was surprisingly contending for the playoffs. Then he got hurt and never got back to form, and the Wizards fell out of the race.
The following year, he was a shell of his former self. He still played in all 82 games, had games of 45, 41, 43 and 39 points, and averaged 20-6-4.
But yes, there was a circus feel to much of his time playing for Wash, especially when he returned to Chicago.
As for D-Wade ever playing in the TBT ... I'd put likelihood somewhere in 0.01% range.
Quote from: MU82 on August 01, 2019, 10:16:07 AM
Jordan's first year with the Wizards, he was a leading MVP candidate 50+ games into the season -- averaging 25-6-5 for a team that was surprisingly contending for the playoffs. Then he got hurt and never got back to form, and the Wizards fell out of the race.
The following year, he was a shell of his former self. He still played in all 82 games, had games of 45, 41, 43 and 39 points, and averaged 20-6-4.
But yes, there was a circus feel to much of his time playing for Wash, especially when he returned to Chicago.
As for D-Wade every playing in the TBT ... I'd put likelihood somewhere in 0.01% range.
You're 0.01% too high.
Any spot where the MU faithful are meeting prior to the game?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 01, 2019, 11:36:08 AM
Any spot where the MU faithful are meeting prior to the game?
Glow and I were thinking Fatpour. Any other ideas?
Quote from: warriorchick on August 01, 2019, 11:42:23 AM
Glow and I were thinking Fatpour. Any other ideas?
Isn't fatpour at division and Damen?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 01, 2019, 11:43:00 AM
Isn't fatpour at division and Damen?
Maybe there is more than one. This one's at Indiana and Cermak
Quote from: warriorchick on August 01, 2019, 11:56:39 AM
Maybe there is more than one. This one's at Indiana and Cermak
Wow how things have changed in a year. I'm not familiar with that part of town beyond Reggie's so perhaps I'll see you at Fatpour 🍻
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 01, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
Wow how things have changed in a year. I'm not familiar with that part of town beyond Reggie's so perhaps I'll see you at Fatpour 🍻
It's in a brand new hotel that is really nice. I went to a rooftop party there a couple of weeks ago.
Best food in the neighborhood is Flo & Santos (pizza & pierogis). Anecdotally, Fatpour has had a string of negative reviews on the neighborhood FB page so my wife and I have avoided it so far.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 01, 2019, 12:27:34 PM
Best food in the neighborhood is Flo & Santos (pizza & pierogis). Anecdotally, Fatpour has had a string of negative reviews on the neighborhood FB page so my wife and I have avoided it so far.
If I want to continue to fit into my spiritwear, I need to start steering clear of the pizza and Pierogis.
Fatpour has 155 reviews on Google average rating of 4.2 , so I think it is a reasonably safe bet.
Fatpour has a really solid tv setup and is directly across from wintrust. I was there after MU v DePaul game and there were a lot of good late games on. I believe that was the night Duke came back and won after being down 25ish (to Louisville?) and I completely stopped paying attention until there was a minute left.
Service was atrocious and I didn't try the food though
Quote from: wadesworld on August 01, 2019, 11:11:26 AM
You're 0.01% too high.
As I hit the "Post" button, I thought the same thing, wades.
I'll amend it to .00000000000001% chance, allowing that he could get bitten by a radioactive insect and decide to use his superpowers to realize his dream of playing in the TBT.
Quote from: DoctorV on August 01, 2019, 01:50:55 PM
Fatpour has a really solid tv setup and is directly across from wintrust. I was there after MU v DePaul game and there were a lot of good late games on. I believe that was the night Duke came back and won after being down 25ish (to Louisville?) and I completely stopped paying attention until there was a minute left.
Service was atrocious and I didn't try the food though
Haha I was there that game too, was fun to watch. I've been there a few times now after events at the Wintrust or McCormick Place and it's the best place in the area to mingle with people after events. I feel bad for the service after the Marquette game as I don't think they were expecting so many people. Usually the service is much better than it was that night.
I have to work and can't go to Chicago >:(
But I can watch the game :D
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27288078/the-top-25-remaining-players-2019-tbt
Thought this was pretty cool. Just chaps my hide to see DJO with another squad though
Quote from: jonny09 on August 01, 2019, 05:33:17 PM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27288078/the-top-25-remaining-players-2019-tbt
Thought this was pretty cool. Just chaps my hide to see DJO with another squad though
Good to see they have forgotten about Diener. Going to drop 25 tonight while looking like an old man.
Agree on fatpour good food n beer poorly run
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 01, 2019, 05:21:28 PM
I have to work and can't go to Chicago >:(
But I can watch the game :D
Keep that job.....watching tv while you work. Night watchman?
we have a glow and wc sighting on the telecast!
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530
let's chat about it
Feel like this can't possibly be our best possible starting lineup
For example,
Derrick biffing layups I do not miss
Chapman has to go
Oooof everyone but Diener is looking rough. Rowsey is terrible right now
Can't tell with this camera angle, but did we just give up a wide open layup to do a backwards pass for a three
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 01, 2019, 08:27:32 PM
Oooof everyone but Diener is looking rough. Rowsey is terrible right now
How can you tell with this angle?
Cams are back, but now we've lost the announcers. Score?
6:39 left in 2Q up 1
Derrick still doesn't like to shoot I see.
thought mcneal was playing
Derrick has great defense
Just over here taking pics with DJO.
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530
jay bees game chat log
Who is the wonky eyed weirdo that takes pictures for Dodds board?
He is on the sideline.
crap, derricks first amazing offensive play and he gets hurt at the end.
Golden Eagles win 79-62 on a Jamil Wilson three. On to the Final Four. Sunday at 1:00 pm.
Jamil SOTG
Any thoughts on Chapman's timeout talks to the team? I hope he dumbed them down for the tv cameras; "play hard, win the next 5 minutes, etc.".
TC loves 4ever
https://twitter.com/tomcrean/status/1157126423125123072?s=21
All is Good tonight. The @GoldenEaglesTBT are in the Semi-Finals of the @thetournament We watched every second. Never doubt the Championship mindsets of this group. Great job Men !
While Travis still has plenty of gas in the tank, his future is in coaching. Last night he absolutely took charge in the first half getting the team out of their initial doldrums, with Rowsey especially. It was just clear that all the players to a man respected his wisdom and leadership, including our superstars Dwight and Jamil.
It was an interesting game to watch. It's not college, not pro, and more organized than playground though with a lot of that physicality. Jamil playing a big role for the team. Travis surprisingly effective for his age. Rowsey cold as ice but appears to be getting ignored at times. He still can't play defense. Derrick Wilson's defense still solid as can be.Those referee shirts with the big REF on the back are amusing.
Not sure why they would schedule the next games on a beautiful Sunday afternoon in Chicago. That's going to hurt attendance.
Quote from: Newsdreams on August 02, 2019, 06:04:48 AM
TC loves 4ever
https://twitter.com/tomcrean/status/1157126423125123072?s=21
All is Good tonight. The @GoldenEaglesTBT are in the Semi-Finals of the @thetournament We watched every second. Never doubt the Championship mindsets of this group. Great job Men !
Grate, da Mofo kan take credit and hang a banner in UGA's locker room, hey?
So who is the scooper that was featured on camera wearing the bright yellow wig?
It's like Dan Dakich never seen a fan with a colored wig on. ::)
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on August 02, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
It's like Dan Dakich never seen a fan with a colored wig on. ::)
That got really weird/uncomfortable and you can tell the announcing partner was extremely uncomfortable with where it could go.
Anyone have 2 extra tickets to the game Sunday I can buy?
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 02, 2019, 09:23:54 AM
Anyone have 2 extra tickets to the game Sunday I can buy?
They're 15 bucks + tax and fees on ticketmaster. You're 5 rows from the court and if you want to move up no one is going to check your tickets. just buy online.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on August 02, 2019, 08:47:07 AM
It's like Dan Dakich never seen a fan with a colored wig on. ::)
Talked to Dakich for 10m he is a complete jag.
I was at the game last night sitting courtside for quarters 2,3 4(lucky me).
It was an absolute blast. It was a little unorganized in the first couple quarters but MU was able to get it going in 4Q. The refs basically let these guys beat the living crap out of each other, so it's like playground ball. You can tell these guys, on both teams, really want to win. You can hear everything these guys are saying the court as well - which is fun. Diener came down the court right before Jamil's game-winner and looked at my group and said "ball game".
It was my first time going and I highly suggest any MU fans in town on Sunday make the trek (tickets are cheap and well worh the price, $25 all in). "WE ARE MARQUETTE" was loud and proud last night. Players are very receptive to talking to fans post-game too. Dapped up Derrick and let Blackledge know that one-handed slam was siiiiick. I truly think these guys appreciate all the MU fans at the game.
Can anyone explain the player rotations?
Why is McNeal on the bench and not playing?
Why did Jake Thomas not play last night, after playing a lot in Wichita?
Same in reverse for Deiner (not playing in Wichita and playing last night)?
Could the we are Marquette chants be heard on tv?
Enjoyed the game.
Jamil was a man among boys. If he had played like that in 2013-14, we might have survived having the worst backcourt in modern MU history.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 02, 2019, 10:01:22 AM
Could the we are Marquette chants be heard on tv?
Yes.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 02, 2019, 10:01:22 AM
Could the we are Marquette chants be heard on tv?
Yes!! It was great
Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on August 02, 2019, 07:25:21 AM
It was an interesting game to watch. It's not college, not pro, and more organized than playground though with a lot of that physicality. Jamil playing a big role for the team. Travis surprisingly effective for his age. Rowsey cold as ice but appears to be getting ignored at times. He still can't play defense. Derrick Wilson's defense still solid as can be.Those referee shirts with the big REF on the back are amusing.
Not sure why they would schedule the next games on a beautiful Sunday afternoon in Chicago. That's going to hurt attendance.
I am pretty sure they did not have access to a reliable weather forecast at the time the games were scheduled. It could have just as easily been 95 degrees with 90% humidity, and then it would have been a brilliant move.
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on August 02, 2019, 09:58:52 AM
Can anyone explain the player rotations?
Why is McNeal on the bench and not playing?
Why did Jake Thomas not play last night, after playing a lot in Wichita?
Same in reverse for Deiner (not playing in Wichita and playing last night)?
McNeal didn't play because he either didn't want to or wasn't eligible for some reason.
Jake didn't play because it was a close game and Diener is like 400000000 times better
Diener wasn't on the roster as a player last week. To busy drinking beer
The best players remaining:ESPN
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27288078/the-top-25-remaining-players-2019-tbt
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on August 02, 2019, 09:58:52 AM
Can anyone explain the player rotations?
Why is McNeal on the bench and not playing?
Why did Jake Thomas not play last night, after playing a lot in Wichita?
Same in reverse for Deiner (not playing in Wichita and playing last night)?
McNeal was hurt....might still not be 100%...or maybe he is just rusty
Thomas was needed in Wichita to provide depth.....now we have Travis.....
Travis wasn't with the team in Wichita ....3 games in 3 days was too much for him at his age he said.
Everybody doesn't get to play.......this isn't CYO ball.....2 million on the line.
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on August 02, 2019, 08:36:58 AM
So who is the scooper that was featured on camera wearing the bright yellow wig?
Pretty sure dat wuz Ma and Pa, hey?
To a person that went to the game, how many people do you think were there?
Quote from: BCHoopster on August 02, 2019, 12:06:47 PM
To a person that went to the game, how many people do you think were there?
Don't feel like doing the math, but they only sold seats along one sideline, lower deck only. It was maybe 2/3 sold. Not everyone was there for both games, though.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 01, 2019, 09:38:44 PM
Who is the wonky eyed weirdo that takes pictures for Dodds board?
He is on the sideline.
I'lll bet its Uncle John, a great poster and even better person....who the heck are you.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 29, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
If it works differently at St. Norberts let us know.
Fluffy is Lithuanian for Sultan
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 01, 2019, 09:38:44 PM
Who is the wonky eyed weirdo that takes pictures for Dodds board?
He is on the sideline.
I remember dropping bombs on the old Mike Juno site. I was the COO of a GE company in Tokyo so my missives would arrive overnight.
That guy deduced from the GE server I was on that I was the third shift dude sitting a panel at a utility in the northeast. It was beyond his comprehension that some MU alums could be expats in other time zones.
Uncle John was the mouth-breathing prototype for the non-meat eating booger-eaters who dominate the narrative on both the Dodds site and Scoop.
Quote from: Jon on August 02, 2019, 12:38:40 PM
I remember dropping bombs on the old Mike Juno site. I was the COO of a GE company in Tokyo so my missives would arrive overnight.
That guy deduced from the GE server I was on that I was the third shift dude sitting a panel at a utility in the northeast. It was beyond his comprehension that some MU alums could be expats in other time zones.
Uncle John was the mouth-breathing prototype for the non-meat eating booger-eaters who dominate the narrative on both the Dodds site and Scoop.
Pure poetry, amigo.
What section will marquette be behind?
:P. You were interrupting his prep for his softball interviews.
Quote from: Jon on August 02, 2019, 12:38:40 PM
I remember dropping bombs on the old Mike Juno site. I was the COO of a GE company in Tokyo so my missives would arrive overnight.
That guy deduced from the GE server I was on that I was the third shift dude sitting a panel at a utility in the northeast. It was beyond his comprehension that some MU alums could be expats in other time zones.
Uncle John was the mouth-breathing prototype for the non-meat eating booger-eaters who dominate the narrative on both the Dodds site and Scoop.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 02, 2019, 01:10:41 PM
What section will marquette be behind?
They'll be on the court in front of the sections.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 02, 2019, 01:27:36 PM
They'll be on the court in front of the sections.
my hopes and dreams have been dashed.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 02, 2019, 01:10:41 PM
What section will marquette be behind?
I went with tickets in 106 hoping that Marquette picks the same bench as Thursday night. They are a 1 seed and hopefully superstitious.
As to the rotation question, Chapman has it figured out perfectly. Our starting lineup has tons of offense so adding Derrick who is a great rebounder for his size plus a lock down defender at this level is absolutely the correct move. Rowsey was 'off' last night but was instant offense for the second unit in Kansas. It's important that MU continue to successfully spread the floor as it opens driving lanes for Dwight. We've got enough shooters to do that.
One more thing. Guys with legit NBA chops understand the game and the physicality at this level. On our team, that's Jamil, Dwight and Travis. This is the first year that all 3 have played together. Our chances of winning this whole thing have improved significantly as a result. And lastly, those of you that chose to complain about our non-MU guys can eat it. Cook and Charlo in particular have been outstanding. No eligible MU big could have provided what they have. I watched Davante try 2 years ago in Peoria.
DJO lost tonight.
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 02, 2019, 07:52:41 PM
DJO lost tonight.
I watched and was really pulling for his team.
Is he a free agent now? Can the Golden Eagles Alumni sign him before Sunday?
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on August 02, 2019, 08:12:48 PM
I watched and was really pulling for his team.
Is he a free agent now? Can the Golden Eagles Alumni sign him before Sunday?
No........and they wouldn't if he was.
Quote from: MuMark on August 02, 2019, 09:14:44 PM
No........and they wouldn't if he was.
Why not? Is there something more there? I saw him fraternizing with the bench at halftime last night, all seemed normal/non-awkward to me
Let's just say he he didn't hold up his end last season and management wasn't happy.......
I think he wrote a letter to Chapman......something about Buycks and Jamil shooting too much......it got awkward when Derrick, Trend and Jerel wouldn't sign it...
DJO.....Traitor!
No DJO isn't a "traitor" he just wasn't asked back after not showing up last year.
Still appreciate what DJO did as a Warrior -- he really was a warrior. But I'm not sorry his team lost in the TBT, because he's not playing for this particular band of Warriors.
Anyone know when the semi game is ?? Internet seems to be all over the place on game time tyia
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 03, 2019, 02:21:40 PM
Anyone know when the semi game is ?? Internet seems to be all over the place on game time tyia
Thought I saw 1pm on the website
Quote from: jsglow on August 02, 2019, 04:12:03 PM
As to the rotation question, Chapman has it figured out perfectly. Our starting lineup has tons of offense so adding Derrick who is a great rebounder for his size plus a lock down defender at this level is absolutely the correct move.
Some of Chapman's lineup usage irks me tbh.
As for Derrick -- he's not a great rebounder for any size, but he is playing physical basketball which is needed in this tourney.
anyone know what section mu bench will be?
its gaaaaameday
See y'all there. No idea where I am sitting as my tix are at willcall from a friend. Excited. Lets get loud!
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 04, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
See y'all there. No idea where I am sitting as my tix are at willcall from a friend. Excited. Lets get loud!
Picked up 106 hoping they will sit on the same bench.
By far the most consistent high scorer for Team Hines has been 6'0 guard Mike James out of Lamar. He has been lighting it up every game. Seems like an opportunity for Derrick.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 04, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
See y'all there. No idea where I am sitting as my tix are at willcall from a friend. Excited. Lets get loud!
We are in section 108. Stop by!
Game is on ESPN at 2edt/1cdt.
chat room..
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530
I picked the wrong bench :-[
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 04, 2019, 01:10:59 PM
I picked the wrong bench :-[
Same but we moved to pretty damn good seats behind the MU bench
Totally forgot about the game
Just turned it on for the Cook go ahead bucket before the Elam
We gotta score 8 before they get 10.
And Diener calls game.
Unreal man.
Watched the last few minutes. I do not miss buycks. Completely erratic and careless with the ball.
WOW, TRAVIS!!! Awesome ending.
Effen cold-blooded mother-effer!
Diener saved the Warriors in Indy in 2003, and he just showed why he's one of so many Marquette fans' favorite players ever.
Not bad for a 106-year-old!
Beer.
Beer.
Fountain of youth.
legend.
Siiiiiiiick
Travis.
Quote from: AirPunch on August 04, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Watched the last few minutes. I do not miss buycks. Completely erratic and careless with the ball.
If all you watched of Buycks was the 4th quarter today, I can see why. But he has been lighting it up in the TBT year after year.
Diener vs. Craft
Heads are gonna explode across the country.
Aircraft Carrier rematch. Let's wipe the floor!
Cold blooded
Quote from: SaveOD238 on August 04, 2019, 03:00:04 PM
If all you watched of Buycks was the 4th quarter today, I can see why. But he has been lighting it up in the TBT year after year.
9 turnovers today. At the end it was crazy... auto-turnover every time...
Quote from: AirPunch on August 04, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Watched the last few minutes. I do not miss buycks. Completely erratic and careless with the ball.
Dwight has been the best player on the team. Not today though.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 04, 2019, 03:07:24 PM
Dwight has been the best player on the team. Not today though.
Yep. Not his day at all.
See attached
Ok... which one of you has been messing with Travis' Wikipedia page? I went to see if he and Craft play in the same Italian league (looks like they do) and saw this:
QuoteHe rejoined the Marquette Alumni team for the "Championship Weekend" of the 2019 tournament—hitting two consecutive three pointers to win in the semi-finals vs Team Heines while drunk on 6 cans of Miller Lite.
Quote from: AirPunch on August 04, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Watched the last few minutes. I do not miss buycks. Completely erratic and careless with the ball.
You obviously did not see the earlier games in the tournament.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 04, 2019, 03:06:39 PM
9 turnovers today. At the end it was crazy... auto-turnover every time...
Not a good game for him. But a large part of why they got to the final. I think he'll show up more. That steal and bucket at the end was clutch too.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on August 04, 2019, 02:55:17 PM
Beer.
Beer.
Fountain of youth.
Who knew Travis and I have the exact same strict training regiment!
anywhere we can get a replay of the last minute? i fell asleep after an early morning round of golf
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 03:15:30 PM
anywhere we can get a replay of the last minute? i fell asleep after an early morning round of golf
Anyone who falls asleep during an exciting game like that is not a true fan.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 03:15:30 PM
anywhere we can get a replay of the last minute? i fell asleep after an early morning round of golf
Some highlights (and interviews here): https://twitter.com/thetournament.
Quote from: AirPunch on August 04, 2019, 02:51:48 PM
Watched the last few minutes. I do not miss buycks. Completely erratic and careless with the ball.
I don't get why people feel the need to make their uninformed opinions known to all...like I don't know anything about this but here's what I think.
Love how Diener moves the ball when he came in getting everyone involved. Then when it mattered most he had clean open looks and pulled trigger.
Great interview with Chapman after the game.
That was awesome, though I scared my daughter when I screamed "YES" as Travis drilled the deep three to win it. Fantastic game start to finish. Before the Elam Ending, I don't think either team led by more than 4 at any point. Team Hines was really tough and was aided by the refs letting almost everything go (except some really odd ticky-tack calls).
Cook was SOTG, but kudos to Derrick Wilson for playing great defense every time he was out there on Mike James. Whenever Derrick left the court, James had a lot more freedom to move and get to the rim. Derrick really locked him up effectively. Great game for him, and hit his free throws.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 04, 2019, 03:19:35 PM
Anyone who falls asleep during an exciting game like that is not a true fan.
fell asleep at half time...didn't set my alarm. didn't realize ma sets the standard for fandom
Currently in third for points ($5,000) but I foolishly picked Overseas Elite in my bracket. Especially, dumb because I only get money if Marquette wins.
Hope I don't fall too far.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 03:32:57 PM
fell asleep at half time...didn't set my alarm. didn't realize ma sets the standard for fandom
Well, she's right, go back to sleep old man.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 03:15:30 PM
anywhere we can get a replay of the last minute? i fell asleep after an early morning round of golf
Here's the last few seconds:
https://mobile.twitter.com/thetournament/status/1158103721957609474?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
New poll for most beloved MU player since Wade........Travis wins ....and its unanimous!
Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 04, 2019, 03:36:45 PM
Currently in third for points ($5,000) but I foolishly picked Overseas Elite in my bracket. Especially, dumb because I only get money if Marquette wins.
Hope I don't fall too far.
Also in line for $5,000, in 7th place right now. I had Overseas Elite & Marquette in the Final with Marquette winning. I think I'm locked into the $5,000 tier if we win Tuesday, as long as everyone in 8/9/10 have their #TBTFAN points already.
Was disappointed OE lost as that would've been a nice separator, but even if I drop down I can't complain if they win. Any prize share (which all 900 registered Golden Eagles fans would get) is better than nothing.
Though I'm wondering, do we have to download the Zelle app beforehand?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 03:15:30 PM
anywhere we can get a replay of the last minute? i fell asleep after an early morning round of golf
Replays are always on the ESPN App.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 04, 2019, 03:07:24 PM
Dwight has been the best player on the team. Not today though.
Yep. This is why a team is a team instead of just one guy.
Buycks was bad today, but they lose in Wichita if he wasn't one of the very best players in the entire field.
This group did a nice job of putting together this team. Lots of guys can make a difference.
Rowsey sucked today, too, and Jamil went ice cold. But Acker had a great stretch, Cook played a fine all-around game, Derrick played some nice D, etc.
Diener hadn't scored a single point before he hit those two cold-blooded effen daggers.
Buycks might be spectacular again for this group on Tuesday. Or maybe somebody else will step up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 04, 2019, 03:52:32 PM
Also in line for $5,000, in 7th place right now. I had Overseas Elite & Marquette in the Final with Marquette winning. I think I'm locked into the $5,000 tier if we win Tuesday, as long as everyone in 8/9/10 have their #TBTFAN points already.
Was disappointed OE lost as that would've been a nice separator, but even if I drop down I can't complain if they win. Any prize share (which all 900 registered Golden Eagles fans would get) is better than nothing.
Though I'm wondering, do we have to download the Zelle app beforehand?
Worst case for me, everyone behind me picked Marquette to win and I fall to $500.
I won't complain getting a MU Championship and $500 haha.
I didn't win a dime when we won in '77. ;)
I think it's kind of BS that you can pick your team until August 1, or that teams eliminated after that can't switch their allegiance. So if you were cheering for Kohl Blooded and they got eliminated day one, you can switch to Carmen's Crew, but if you are cheering for Overseas Elite you can't because your team was better? It punishes fans of teams that advance to the last 8 but don't make the final. Had Marquette's team lost today, I wouldn't have watched on Tuesday, but if we lost and I could've switched my team, I probably still would.
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 04, 2019, 04:02:10 PM
I think it's kind of BS that you can pick your team until August 1, or that teams eliminated after that can't switch their allegiance. So if you were cheering for Kohl Blooded and they got eliminated day one, you can switch to Carmen's Crew, but if you are cheering for Overseas Elite you can't because your team was better? It punishes fans of teams that advance to the last 8 but don't make the final. Had Marquette's team lost today, I wouldn't have watched on Tuesday, but if we lost and I could've switched my team, I probably still would.
I noticed the person leading MU fans is also leading the Overseas Elite fans. Not a bad play setting up an account with all contenders and guaranteeing money.
Have to imagine this is the best possible final for TBT. Both of the teams in the final have built in fanbases, unlike Overseas Elite and Team Hines. Also both Midwest teams, so should help attendance in Chicago.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 03:32:57 PM
fell asleep at half time...didn't set my alarm. didn't realize ma sets the standard for fandom
Golf then falling sleep for an MU final 4, weak, hey?
Quote from: warriorchick on August 04, 2019, 03:12:36 PM
You obviously did not see the earlier games in the tournament.
Sorry, seeing that just triggered a horrible memory of this play (1:22)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D19YFZgVQmM
Enjoy
https://twitter.com/tomcrean/status/1158105424203325440?s=21
This is so great to watch. The Spirit of these guys has always inspired me and still does. Way to go @joechap32 and @DanielJohnFitz and the entire group.
Quote from: Anti-Dentite on August 04, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Well, she's right, go back to sleep old man.
no she isn't and how the hell old is old to you nerveless wonder. there may be some other circumstances behind why i fell asleep as well. sometimes it's best to refrain from making stupid assumptions to avoid being embarrassed
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2019/08/04/travis-dieners-three-pointer-sends-golden-eagles-tbt-title-game/1891573001/
https://twitter.com/dienertravis/status/1158146549651779590?s=21
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 04, 2019, 07:27:36 PM
no she isn't and how the hell old is old to you nerveless wonder. there may be some other circumstances behind why i fell asleep as well. sometimes it's best to refrain from making stupid assumptions to avoid being embarrassed
The nerve has been hit.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on August 04, 2019, 09:20:16 PM
https://twitter.com/dienertravis/status/1158146549651779590?s=21
For those without twitter:
Honestly, it's so very much fun watching Diener play/coach/motivate. Sure he hit the big shot yet again. But I'll focus my comments on his work with Rowsey in Thursday's game. See Rowsey got frustrated by his inability to hit a shot and by the very physical play that was being allowed. He was about to react in a less than constructive manner during a stoppage and Travis gave him one hell of a shove in the other direction. Chapman recognized immediately that Andrew was on tilt and subbed him out. Moments later Diener also came out and cleared out space on the bench next to Rowsey, put his arm around him and talked to him at length. And for the rest of the game both were the first to high five all other player contributions.
Diener's playing career will be ending soon. I sure home he wants back on the MU bench. Dude is simply a winner.
Quote from: jsglow on August 04, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
Honestly, it's so very much fun watching Diener play/coach/motivate. Sure he hit the big shot yet again. But I'll focus my comments on his work with Rowsey in Thursday's game. See Rowsey got frustrated by his inability to hit a shot and by the very physical play that was being allowed. He was about to react in a less than constructive manner during a stoppage and Travis gave him one hell of a shove in the other direction. Chapman recognized immediately that Andrew was on tilt and subbed him out. Moments later Diener also came out and cleared out space on the bench next to Rowsey, put his arm around him and talked to him at length. And for the rest of the game both were the first to high five all other player contributions.
Diener's playing career will be ending soon. I sure home he wants back on the MU bench. Dude is simply a winner.
The thing I love the most about Diener, is he pushes the ball up the court so fast and keeps everyone fed and involved. The classic definition of a point guard. So when the clutch moments come, it is so natural for the rest of the team to want him with the ball.
The other night when the broadcast only had the high camera angle for a while, it was very easy to see how different Diener operates from the rest of the players on the court.
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Jerel McNeal Retweeted Travis Diener
Congrats to my brother @DienerTravis old fu**ker just wins!!!
Quote from: Herman Cain on August 04, 2019, 10:32:13 PM
The thing I love the most about Diener, is he pushes the ball up the court so fast and keeps everyone fed and involved. The classic definition of a point guard. So when the clutch moments come, it is so natural for the rest of the team to want him with the ball.
The other night when the broadcast only had the high camera angle for a while, it was very easy to see how different Diener operates from the rest of the players on the court.
Spot on HC. Oh, and how 'bout those 13 rebounds by DW?
Quote from: jsglow on August 05, 2019, 06:45:38 AM
Spot on HC. Oh, and how 'bout those 13 rebounds by DW?
DW had 1 rebound.
Defense was huge yesterday. Look at their box score:
https://www.thetournament.com/news/1-golden-eagles-68-1-team-hines-62
Lojeski was 1/4 from three. Mike James just 3/12 from the field (1/6 on threes). Team Hines shot just 25% beyond the arc and 45.5 eFG%. Guys like Derrick & Acker playing really tight, pesky defense on James was a huge part of that.
Quote from: jsglow on August 04, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
Honestly, it's so very much fun watching Diener play/coach/motivate. Sure he hit the big shot yet again. But I'll focus my comments on his work with Rowsey in Thursday's game. See Rowsey got frustrated by his inability to hit a shot and by the very physical play that was being allowed. He was about to react in a less than constructive manner during a stoppage and Travis gave him one hell of a shove in the other direction. Chapman recognized immediately that Andrew was on tilt and subbed him out. Moments later Diener also came out and cleared out space on the bench next to Rowsey, put his arm around him and talked to him at length. And for the rest of the game both were the first to high five all other player contributions.
Diener's playing career will be ending soon. I sure home he wants back on the MU bench. Dude is simply a winner.
The first thing you notice is that Travis is significantly bigger, taller, longer than Andrew. The 2nd thing you notice is that Travis reads the defense better/sees the floor and is a better passer. Andrew still likes to go one in one and shoot the three or even try the pump fake foul. Both are fine. But he is still in the process of adding to his game. I saw several small things in Travis' game that he has picked up over the years. Smart player. And Travis fully understands and expects the physicality.
Quote from: jsglow on August 04, 2019, 09:55:06 PM
Honestly, it's so very much fun watching Diener play/coach/motivate. Sure he hit the big shot yet again. But I'll focus my comments on his work with Rowsey in Thursday's game. See Rowsey got frustrated by his inability to hit a shot and by the very physical play that was being allowed. He was about to react in a less than constructive manner during a stoppage and Travis gave him one hell of a shove in the other direction. Chapman recognized immediately that Andrew was on tilt and subbed him out. Moments later Diener also came out and cleared out space on the bench next to Rowsey, put his arm around him and talked to him at length. And for the rest of the game both were the first to high five all other player contributions.
Diener's playing career will be ending soon. I sure home he wants back on the MU bench. Dude is simply a winner.
Does he? I don't know either way, but I wonder if he didn't really enjoy the coaching experience as much as he thought.
It will be interesting to see this matchup. For those that complain about the non-MU players, I think we can attribute that to the Ohio State team. They pounded us inside one year and led to the team looking for more size outside of the MU alumni base. Crean's lack of big men recruiting continues to screw us.
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 05, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
It will be interesting to see this matchup. For those that complain about the non-MU players, I think we can attribute that to the Ohio State team. They pounded us inside one year and led to the team looking for more size outside of the MU alumni base. Crean's lack of big men recruiting continues to screw us.
Though, Ousmane Barro would look nice on this team. He apparently has had contractual commitments?
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 05, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
Crean's lack of big men recruiting continues to screw us.
This cracked me up, I admit.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 05, 2019, 07:41:36 AM
DW had 1 rebound.
You are correct. My mistake hearing something on twitter.
Quote from: shoothoops on August 05, 2019, 08:16:48 AM
The first thing you notice is that Travis is significantly bigger, taller, longer than Andrew. The 2nd thing you notice is that Travis reads the defense better/sees the floor and is a better passer. Andrew still likes to go one in one and shoot the three or even try the pump fake foul. Both are fine. But he is still in the process of adding to his game. I saw several small things in Travis' game that he has picked up over the years. Smart player. And Travis fully understands and expects the physicality.
Travis is 10x the ballplayer Rowsey will ever be, only diminished by age. I wasn't trying to make a comparison.
Quote from: jsglow on August 05, 2019, 10:10:25 AM
You are correct. My mistake hearing something on twitter.
The other Wilson had 13 rebounds
Quote from: The Deane Team on August 05, 2019, 10:13:37 AM
The other Wilson had 13 rebounds
Of course. Again, my mistake. Hope he shoots a bit better on Tuesday. :)
Role call for Tuesday? It sounds like I will be there.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on August 05, 2019, 10:18:44 AM
Role call for Tuesday? It sounds like I will be there.
I'll be there. Unsure if I should purchase in advance or not
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 05, 2019, 10:31:20 AM
I'll be there. Unsure if I should purchase in advance or not
I think that the tickets might be more difficult than the past sessons given the two teams. Talked with someone from TBT after the game and they are really excited that this is the matchup given the locally-established fan bases. Sounded like the $25 tix were going fast.
I can't attend tomorrow night, but because I have 600 points, TBT sent out a code for 50% off tickets tomorrow. If there are still tickets available, go to the link below and use the code TBTFAN50 to get 50% off tickets:
https://www.thetournament.com/tickets
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 05, 2019, 08:23:35 AM
Does he? I don't know either way, but I wonder if he didn't really enjoy the coaching experience as much as he thought.
Considering that coaching's in his blood, if you don't know either way, the default answer is "he enjoys the coaching experience."
Reminded again of how great Mo Acker is.
Does anyone know which section we will be? Looking to buy tickets but not in enemy territory
Quote from: LoudMouth on August 05, 2019, 11:21:19 AM
Does anyone know which section we will be? Looking to buy tickets but not in enemy territory
It is my understanding we are the away team, so will be on the opposite bench side than last game.
Quote from: LoudMouth on August 05, 2019, 11:21:19 AM
Does anyone know which section we will be? Looking to buy tickets but not in enemy territory
You wanna be around 106. We are the away team.
I'm gonna be there in 105
I love watching all these "old-timers" play. Hope they can win some cash money.
Quote from: cheebs09 on August 05, 2019, 09:03:25 AM
It will be interesting to see this matchup. For those that complain about the non-MU players, I think we can attribute that to the Ohio State team. They pounded us inside one year and led to the team looking for more size outside of the MU alumni base. Crean's lack of big men recruiting continues to screw us.
2 things:
1 funny that Crean seems to be reveling in this TBT and, as only he can, essentially taking credit for it. Yet how many guys on this team over 6'2" did he even recruit? Any size on the Squad Buzz brought in or the guys had to go get.
2. The year MU lost to OSU we did nit have Charlo or Cook, most importantly OSU that year had Sullinger and he was a one man wrecking crew against our small lineup.
Different story now, outcome tbd
Quote from: brewcity77 on August 05, 2019, 07:51:31 AM
Defense was huge yesterday. Look at their box score:
https://www.thetournament.com/news/1-golden-eagles-68-1-team-hines-62
Did not see attendance listed in the box score. Curious if the semi final and final have higher attendance than a non conference DePaul game.
Quote from: Benny B on August 05, 2019, 11:11:25 AM
Considering that coaching's in his blood, if you don't know either way, the default answer is "he enjoys the coaching experience."
I believe I heard that he does not love the recruiting responsibilities involved with college coaching. He could still love the coaching part of coaching.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 05, 2019, 02:34:33 PM
I believe I heard that he does not love the recruiting responsibilities involved with college coaching. He could still love the coaching part of coaching.
Hard to blame him for that.
After he went to the NBA, KO said he preferred the pros because it meant "I don't have to lie to 18-year-olds' mothers any more." Of course, he eventually went back to college hoops when the NBA seemingly didn't want him any more.
Quote from: Macallan 18 on August 05, 2019, 01:43:28 PM
Did not see attendance listed in the box score. Curious if the semi final and final have higher attendance than a non conference DePaul game.
Literally posed that question during the Elite 8 game. What are the odds that MU's TBT team outdraws DePaul in at least one game this year? Put another way, if DePaul's lowest attended game has a gate of X, then will MU's TBT crowd be larger than X?
I say yes, 100%. The MU's gonna pack 'em in tonight.
Quote from: jficke13 on August 05, 2019, 04:00:31 PM
Literally posed that question during the Elite 8 game. What are the odds that MU's TBT team outdraws DePaul in at least one game this year? Put another way, if DePaul's lowest attended game has a gate of X, then will MU's TBT crowd be larger than X?
I say yes, 100%. The MU's gonna pack 'em in tonight.
It would take your bet that mu out draws DePaul tonight.
Yep. I bet every single game DePaul plays at home outdraws tonight's game.
Quote from: jficke13 on August 05, 2019, 04:00:31 PM
I say yes, 100%. The MU's gonna pack 'em in tonight.
Why not go to the game tomorrow instead of an empty gym tonight tho??
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on August 05, 2019, 04:10:55 PM
Yep. I bet every single game DePaul plays at home outdraws tonight's game.
But not by much.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 05, 2019, 04:11:35 PM
Why not go to the game tomorrow instead of an empty gym tonight tho??
fair, my bad... but in my defense it did lead to some nice follow on shade tossed at Depaul's attendance, so good job team.
Coach Joe Chapman just interviewed on Chicago ABC sports promoting TBT
Also, first season at Wintrust DePaul had eight games with fewer than 2,000 in attendance, including 3 with less than 1,000. (According to Illinois tax watchdog website)
Last year, according to DePaul athletics, lowest attendance was 3,674.
I think MU can do this.
It was nice to see Travis get past a final four. Only needed to be there without Crean to succeed
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 05, 2019, 06:14:02 PM
It was nice to see Travis get past a final four. Only needed to be there without Crean to succeed
And D Wade.
countdown to game time-
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27327254/expert-picks-roster-breakdown-tv-info-tip-2019-tbt-final
Query: Does TBT tip-off get preempted by the LLWS rain delay?
noting the winners shares-jerel gets $1 mil with a win? how is this broken down?
I am sure it has been stated many times in here, but I have not been able to watch any of the games very closely.
Why isn't Jerel playing a more prominent role? Is he hurt?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 06, 2019, 06:17:30 PM
noting the winners shares-jerel gets $1 mil with a win? how is this broken down?
I doubt that's accurate given that the total of everyone's share per this article ends up being more than $2 million.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on August 06, 2019, 06:17:30 PM
noting the winners shares-jerel gets $1 mil with a win? how is this broken down?
I think it's an extra '0' typo rocket.
Jerel i believe has a leg injury that he is recovering from
Nice
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1158894199418294272?s=21
Quote from: MuMark on August 06, 2019, 07:19:44 PM
Nice
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1158894199418294272?s=21
That's so awesome
Quote from: MuMark on August 06, 2019, 07:19:44 PM
Nice
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1158894199418294272?s=21
Weird lookin' plane, doe, hey?
Quote from: MuMark on August 06, 2019, 07:19:44 PM
Nice
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1158894199418294272?s=21
Hope that's not some sort of NCAA infraction
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 06, 2019, 07:47:04 PM
Hope that's not some sort of NCAA infraction
Thought the same lol
Nothing better than the $23 Amtrak from MKE to Chicago.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 06, 2019, 07:44:42 PM
Weird lookin' plane, doe, hey?
(https://nebula.wsimg.com/ee3b0bc7068a5f379407b1d3c3ba6b08?AccessKeyId=5CF08DE3AA6646FE752D&disposition=0&alloworigin=1)
Have fun everyone who's there. Had to work today
Chat time...
http://us20.chatzy.com/14332692958530
Derek starting, Ners must be bursting an artery.
Abysmal offense so far
Really for both teams
But we look terrible
Well, couldn't possibly play any worse than that qtr
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on August 06, 2019, 08:25:38 PM
Well, couldn't possibly play any worse than that qtr
Reminds me of the last time we played Ohio State
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 06, 2019, 07:54:50 PM
Nothing better than the $23 Amtrak from MKE to Chicago.
It's $25 now. Damn inflation
I knew the minute y'all started speculating on a banner we were toast ::)
Buycks gonna have to stop being a TO machine
Moving the ball a bit now.
Nice little run
Huge crowd today? Both sides are open
Slam it DW!
DW with the ally oop!
Derrick biffs the lay up smh
Wayyyyyyyyy better qtr tho
Gotta start rebounding
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on August 06, 2019, 08:29:07 PM
I knew the minute y'all started speculating on a banner we were toast ::)
Yep. Usually that's Eddie Moysh territory, but this is just fun for fans. For the guys on the court, however, splitting $2 million is a big deal.
What ticks me off is....
While I appreciate Scoop and all, it seems a gross injustice that OSU, of all places, has a website named "Eleven Warriors."
Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on August 06, 2019, 09:08:18 PM
Yep. Usually that's Eddie Moysh territory, but this is just fun for fans. For the guys on the court, however, splitting $2 million is a big deal.
They don't split $2 million. Some of US get a share. It's literally not just for fun.
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 06, 2019, 09:09:58 PM
They don't split $2 million. Some of US get a share. It's literally not just for fun.
My bad. Forgot about the fan shares.
Acker with an en fuego stretch. This is really fun
Quote from: JWags85 on August 06, 2019, 09:22:16 PM
Acker with an en fuego stretch. This is really fun
Acker wasn't anywhere near this good when he was in college, right?
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 06, 2019, 09:25:07 PM
Acker wasn't anywhere near this good when he was in college, right?
He could shoot. But he was a spot up guy. This pull-up deadly accuracy wasn't there.
Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on August 06, 2019, 09:16:10 PM
My bad. Forgot about the fan shares.
It's OK. I'm just tryna pay bills bruh
A lot of out of control plays by Buycks.
Gotta rain it in to get 9 before they get 8.
Jamil Wilson showing up from deep with shades of Davidson
Rebounding is absolutely killing us
TOs just lost the game
Just keep doing it
Why is McNeal in the game again?
I haven't seen Jerel play in years. He looks awful out there. Like, worst player on the floor awful.
He's my all time favorite MU player, tough look.
Yea, Rel has been real bad.
Another TO
Jamil Wilson not getting the ball is criminal.
Ended the game they started it unfortunately.
Fun run tho
Ah well, went cold at the wrong time. Just really wish it wasn't against the OSU alumni.
Next year though.
Entertaining game.
Jerel hasn't played with this team at all...and there he is in crunch time!?! I don't get it.
But it was fun to watch until the Elam ending.
Just a game. Proud of the guys. But dear lord, get Jerel off the court. Don't blame Mo for just walking off the court.
Outstanding basketball game! Heartbreakering loss.
I can't fathom why Jerel was in the game instead of Acker. He hadn't done anything all tournament.
Awful finish after an overall pretty good showing.
Terrible foul by cook zero chance of getting that rebound.
Agree on MCneal old and slow, did he score a basket in the entire tournament why is he in there?
Jerel doing what he always did, turn the ball over. Most maddening player in MU history. The more things change the more they stay the same. Was saying during the TO, "why is he in there?"
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 06, 2019, 09:25:07 PM
Acker wasn't anywhere near this good when he was in college, right?
tougher than nails.
Great tourney run, tough Elam Ending. Tired legs.
Elam ending is fun. Elam ending be able to end the game on FTs is kind of lame.
Got a bit cold at the end, but Jamil is an NBA player. He's huge on both ends of the floor. If that BS civil suit doesn't come up, I think he's on a true NBA deal. Hope he gets another chance
Jerel should not have been out there!! Damn!!
So, so close. Just couldn't quite finish the deal. Really enjoyed watching the team throughout the tournament. It's become one of the best parts of the offseason. And they represented Marquette well.
Love McNeal. He did not look like he should've been out there at all. I was at game and we had a fast break and he didnt even pass half court. He just stopped and let team play 4 on 5 (we turned it over).
Sad way to lose. Would've loved to have those 2 minutes back. As always, win or lose, love to watch Marquette basketball. Nice job, fellas. Way to represent.
Great run by the warriors...
Needed to go inside more as they were switching the 3
On defense, rebounding killed them.
Obviously sloppy ball handling and passing at the end
Jerel will have a tough time sleeping tonight.
For as good as diener looks at 37, McNeal is the exact opposite.
I've always hated the Elam ending. If it's a tight game the refs do everything they can to not blow their whistles to give a team an easy shot at getting 25% of their points needed and it turns into a hack fest and terrible basketball, and if it's a blowout it's hoist up 3 pointers on both sides of the court and turns into a brick fest and horrible basketball.
Didn't McNeal miss some earlier TBT games because he was hurt? He sure looked a step (or two) slow today, and those two giveaways were brutal. I'm actually hoping he was still hurting a little, because that's at least a viable excuse.
When they came out of the timeout before the start of the Elam ending, I turned to Mrs. 82 and said, "I can't believe Acker's not out there instead of McNeal." I'm glad to see several Scoopers said they thought the same thing.
Still, despite it all, MU had good open looks for Diener, Jamil and Buycks down the stretch. Still had a chance. It was a good run, and I enjoyed the 3 games I watched.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 06, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
I've always hated the Elam ending. If it's a tight game the refs do everything they can to not blow their whistles to give a team an easy shot at getting 25% of their points needed and it turns into a hack fest and terrible basketball, and if it's a blowout it's hoist up 3 pointers on both sides of the court and turns into a brick fest and horrible basketball.
Elam ending has flaws. Anti climatic that a game as physical as that ends on a foul 90 feet from the basket. It can be pretty exciting but I'd never want to see the college game go to the Elam ending or 4 quarters.
I like the Elam ending for this kind of tournament. Makes it different, and it has resulted in many exciting endings without a dozen fouls and 6 time-outs turning the final 3 minutes into 35-minute slogs. But, like AirPunch (and obviously wades), I would never want to see it in D1 basketball.
4 quarters? I'd be open-minded about it. I do like that team fouls reset after each quarter. Not clamoring for it, but I wouldn't reject it out of hand. Works quite well for women's game and high school, so I don't see why it absolutely wouldn't work for men's D1.
Tom Crean (@TomCrean) Tweeted:
Even in defeat, it's incredible to watch people we love on the @GoldenEaglesTBT Play and Coach with the passion, determination and resolve that our family got to see first hand for years. Great job and thank you @thetournament and @espn for such an incredible platform.
I think the game flows so much better with quarters. Unfortunately they'll screw up that flow by shoehorning that final TV timeout into the second and fourth quarters.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 06, 2019, 10:44:08 PM
Tom Crean (@TomCrean) Tweeted:
Even in defeat, it's incredible to watch people we love on the @GoldenEaglesTBT Play and Coach with the passion, determination and resolve that our family got to see first hand for years. Great job and thank you @thetournament and @espn for such an incredible platform.
@tom go f urself
What happened to the fake Tom Crean twitter account? That was gold.
I love the Elam ending. The finish was no more anticlimactic than watching a team dribble out the clock or shoot endless free throws. The team that executed at the end won.
I don't love playing a guy at the end who has done nothing to help the team get where they are. Acker kept them in the game with his threes, then he rode the pine while his replacement handed the game away. JC was excellent all tourney, but that coaching mistake was co$tly.
Players win games
Coaches lose them
Quote from: wadesworld on August 06, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
What happened to the fake Tom Crean twitter account? That was gold.
TC lost his sh!t when the fake account reported Harbaugh to the 49ers, before harbaugh went to the 49ers.
As good a job as Chapman did the entire tourney, he blew that game. Awful roster management. Rel hadn't earned many minutes at all much less the crucial minutes with 2mil on the line. I feel really bad for the guys that got them there only to have it blown by a guy who didn't contribute. I love Jerel but that was inexcusably bad by him and JC
Quote from: wadesworld on August 06, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
I've always hated the Elam ending. If it's a tight game the refs do everything they can to not blow their whistles to give a team an easy shot at getting 25% of their points needed and it turns into a hack fest and terrible basketball, and if it's a blowout it's hoist up 3 pointers on both sides of the court and turns into a brick fest and horrible basketball.
I really do not like the Elam. I hope that other concepts develop as to how to eliminate some of the problems at game end. Here's one idea (that surely will quickly be picked apart by Scoopers) :
at the 3 minute mark (or wherevever you want to I.D. as the time frame) a buzzer goes off alerting the teams that the following is now in effect: both teams in double bonus and up to 3 shots are allowed to get the 2 free throws (or 4 to get 3) . The shot clock goes to 20 seconds on possesions after the first stoppage of play following the 3 minute buzzer.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 06, 2019, 10:44:08 PM
Tom Crean (@TomCrean) Tweeted:
Even in defeat, it's incredible to watch people we love on the @GoldenEaglesTBT Play and Coach with the passion, determination and resolve that our family got to see first hand for years. Great job and thank you @thetournament and @espn for such an incredible platform.
Thank you, Coach!
I see that Buzz has stayed silent, not acknowledging guys who played for him.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 07, 2019, 08:43:56 AM
I really do not like the Elam. I hope that other concepts develop as to how to eliminate some of the problems at game end. Here's one idea (that surely will quickly be picked apart by Scoopers) :
at the 3 minute mark (or wherevever you want to I.D. as the time frame) a buzzer goes off alerting the teams that the following is now in effect: both teams in double bonus and up to 3 shots are allowed to get the 2 free throws (or 4 to get 3) . The shot clock goes to 20 seconds on possesions after the first stoppage of play following the 3 minute buzzer.
Too complicated. How about just 2 shots and the ball?
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 07, 2019, 08:43:56 AM
I really do not like the Elam. I hope that other concepts develop as to how to eliminate some of the problems at game end. Here's one idea (that surely will quickly be picked apart by Scoopers) :
at the 3 minute mark (or wherevever you want to I.D. as the time frame) a buzzer goes off alerting the teams that the following is now in effect: both teams in double bonus and up to 3 shots are allowed to get the 2 free throws (or 4 to get 3) . The shot clock goes to 20 seconds on possesions after the first stoppage of play following the 3 minute buzzer.
How loud is the buzzer when the moon phase is a waning gibbous? And how much time is added to the shot clock when the visiting team has three players with the same middle initial (but different first names)?
The Elam Ending is simple and easy to understand, and it requires no material change in the rules of the game... it only modifies one thing: how the game ends. Buckets still count the same, fouls still register the same, number of players on the court stays the same, etc.
There are three ways you can end a game without changing the rules of the game: current clock rules, running clock (ala soccer) and Elam. There are also three end-of game situations at the under-4 stoppage: large lead, tie game (1 possession game), close game (within 3-4 possessions). Looking at each.
Large Lead: Rarely does a team who is down by double digits with under four to play have a chance to win the game under current rules, so with a running clock, it would be virtually impossible. Either way, you're not looking at the possibility of an extended game (OT or intentional FT's). With Elam, the trailing team at least has a chance to come back simply by shutting down the other team... no risk of having the clock run out. So Elam could potentially extend the game a bit longer than current or running clock, but like the NCAA Tournment itself, it doesn't matter how well you performed the first 90% of the game, everyone controls their own destiny to the very end.
Tight Game: Very exciting, back-and-forth contests. Great for watching and TV. But potential for OT extends length-of-game significantly, regardless of current or running clock. Elam can maintain the excitement without increasing length-of-game.
Close Game: Intentional FT's usually means one of two things... you're going to extend the game into OT, or you're going to extend the game in an exercise of futility. Running clock actually provides a meaningful length-of-game benefit in these situations, but it also means that a 3 possession game with 2 to play would be virtually insurmountable without reducing the shot clock duration. Elam is the best of both worlds... both teams play the game until the very end without material increase to length-of-game.
That said, I don't think we'll see Elam Ending in NCAA anytime soon, but if I'm a content producer, capping the length-of-game and/or keeping games competitive to the very last bucket might be music to my ears.
for $2 million, play it out the right way-might as well make it take it
I personally think the bashing of Rel is somewhat uncalled for. Did he struggle in Elam last night? Hell ya. But let's remember the critical minutes he played on Sunday to get them to the Final.
Rel forced a turnover right at the beginning of Elam in that game if my memory serves in what were his first minutes on the floor. I think Chapman's thought process was the D he brought to the table plus some rebounding was more than Mo could offer in a 3-5 possession stint. Remember that Travis, Dwight, Jamil AND Cook were all going to be on the floor, guaranteed. Chapman simply did not anticipate that Rel was going to have turnover problems. Perhaps the 'rust' associated with his injury should have been a factor. Water over the dam at this point.
I'm sure Rel is taking this personally today. Let's be a little charitable.
Quote from: jsglow on August 07, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
I personally think the bashing of Rel is somewhat uncalled for. Did he struggle in Elam last night? Hell ya. But let's remember the critical minutes he played on Sunday to get them to the Final.
Rel forced a turnover right at the beginning of Elam in that game if my memory serves in what were his first minutes on the floor. I think Chapman's thought process was the D he brought to the table plus some rebounding was more than Mo could offer in a 3-5 possession stint. Remember that Travis, Dwight, Jamil AND Cook were all going to be on the floor, guaranteed. Chapman simply did not anticipate that Rel was going to have turnover problems. Perhaps the 'rust' associated with his injury should have been a factor. Water over the dam at this point.
I'm sure Rel is taking this personally today. Let's be a little charitable.
I think jerel played 20 minutes in the semis.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 07, 2019, 01:10:54 PM
I think jerel played 20 minutes in the semis.
I'd have to back and look at the box. I do know he was in at crunch time.
Quote from: jsglow on August 07, 2019, 01:14:01 PM
I'd have to back and look at the box. I do know he was in at crunch time.
I remember looking at my bud and saying he looks old. I believe it was the 2nd quarter. I also drank a lot though. Soooooo
Quote from: jsglow on August 07, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
I personally think the bashing of Rel is somewhat uncalled for. Did he struggle in Elam last night? Hell ya. But let's remember the critical minutes he played on Sunday to get them to the Final.
16 mins. 0/2 FG, 0 pts, 1 Reb, 1 stl, 1 foul on Sunday. #critical
Quote from: Jay Bee on August 07, 2019, 01:19:50 PM
16 mins. 0/2 FG, 0 pts, 1 Reb, 1 stl, 1 foul on Sunday. #critical
You LOVE to second guess. It's all so easy for you JB.
Quote from: jsglow on August 07, 2019, 01:22:51 PM
You LOVE to second guess. It's all so easy for you JB.
Well, yeah, his Elam time performance on Sunday was not about measurable stats.
Quote from: jsglow on August 07, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
I'm sure Rel is taking this personally today. Let's be a little charitable.
Nice to have an adult reasonable view.
Quote from: NickelDimer on August 07, 2019, 08:38:29 AM
As good a job as Chapman did the entire tourney, he blew that game. Awful roster management. Rel hadn't earned many minutes at all much less the crucial minutes with 2mil on the line. I feel really bad for the guys that got them there only to have it blown by a guy who didn't contribute. I love Jerel but that was inexcusably bad by him and JC
Too many coaches forget you need to score and control the ball at the end of games. Yes defense is great but a smart player who can score and control the ball will not hurt you on defense at the end of games they will help you win more often than not.
That's on Chapman as much as McNeal at the end there. Why on earth he is playing him was beyond me. Could have played Acker, Charlo. Why was he bringing it up the court? So disappointing.
Quote from: warriorchick on August 07, 2019, 10:34:45 AM
Too complicated. How about just 2 shots and the ball?
I think that makes both teams leery of any serious defensive effort but I could see 1 shot and the ball. It is somewhat complicated but the idea was to float an idea that not only made intentional fouling a very risky gamble for the trailing team to get possesion but also a way to prevent the leading team to shoot at the :27 or:28 second mark ala UVA or UW and burn the clock. It makes both teams head more in the direction of a shootout.
Franschilla argued that the final eight of the TBT are the strongest basketball teams in the world that do not play in the NBA.
He said they are a collection for foreign all-stars and low to mid-level former NBA players. So they are better than the best college teams and the best foreign teams.
Do you agree with this?
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on August 07, 2019, 10:48:13 PM
Franschilla argued that the final eight of the TBT are the strongest basketball teams in the world that do not play in the NBA.
He said they are a collection for foreign all-stars and low to mid-level former NBA players. So they are better than the best college teams and the best foreign teams.
Do you agree with this?
Mostly. They would beat the best college teams by double digits. But, there may be a European team or two that could beat them.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on August 07, 2019, 10:53:48 PM
Mostly. They would beat the best college teams by double digits. But, there may be a European team or two that could beat them.
Maybe if they were coached adequately but I do feel that the best college teams would win if you took them both with the amount of practices each plays with before said season.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 07, 2019, 11:12:56 PM
Maybe if they were coached adequately but I do feel that the best college teams would win if you took them both with the amount of practices each plays with before said season.
I dunno about that, just look how much Buycks, Jamil, Acker, and even Derrick have all improved since college.
Same with top-tier guys like Anthony Davis. Yea, he was awesome at Kentucky, but I think current Jamil Wilson could hang with Freshman year AD.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 07, 2019, 11:24:35 PM
I dunno about that, just look how much Buycks, Jamil, Acker, and even Derrick have all improved since college.
Same with top-tier guys like Anthony Davis. Yea, he was awesome at Kentucky, but I think current Jamil Wilson could hang with Freshman year AD.
I agree but at the same time they looked sporadic and out of sorts quite often. I feel that against a disciplined Duke or UK they may struggle
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 07, 2019, 11:24:35 PM
I dunno about that, just look how much Buycks, Jamil, Acker, and even Derrick have all improved since college.
Same with top-tier guys like Anthony Davis. Yea, he was awesome at Kentucky, but I think current Jamil Wilson could hang with Freshman year AD.
Fraschilla also made this point.
Every guy on the eight teams in the finals is a pro player. That means 365 basketball for more years than they were in college (save Rowsey). And with age comes wisdom.
He then said that the Golden Eagles Alumni team today, would be #1 and the favorite to win the national championship. Again TODAY. Not 8, 10 or 16 years ago (Charo and Diener are both 37) when they played in college.
He was trying to stress that this is the highest level of basketball you will see away from the NBA.
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on August 07, 2019, 10:48:13 PM
Franschilla argued that the final eight of the TBT are the strongest basketball teams in the world that do not play in the NBA.
He said they are a collection for foreign all-stars and low to mid-level former NBA players. So they are better than the best college teams and the best foreign teams.
Do you agree with this?
They would mollywop any college team. Euro teams would get some wins
Agree on all counts with Frashilla. Absolutely men versus boys in the areas of skill, IQ, physicality, and mentality.
Didn't the MU squad scrimmage the alums last year and win? I think you guys are over reacting to what a talking head was saying during a broadcast..aka doing his job and trying to build hype
Quote from: swoopem on August 08, 2019, 07:47:55 AM
Didn't the MU squad scrimmage the alums last year and win? I think you guys are over reacting to what a talking head was saying during a broadcast..aka doing his job and trying to build hype
If they did it was because the alums were walking around.
A college team is not going to beat a team of seasoned pros who all also went to d1 colleges.
Players improve after college not regress.
Quote from: #UnleashCain on August 08, 2019, 09:02:27 AM
If they did it was because the alums were walking around.
A college team is not going to beat a team of seasoned pros who all also went to d1 colleges.
Players improve after college not regress.
I think it matters if you are referring to a November college team or a March college team. March teams are way better than they were in November. The biggest improvement is team defense. TBT teams have a lot of good offensive players. The teams that made Chicago were also pretty good on defense. However, they still were a collection of individual players vs. really well trained units. How many times did Buycks turn over the ball when he decided to do things on his own?
Quote from: bilsu on August 08, 2019, 11:01:09 AM
I think it matters if you are referring to a November college team or a March college team. March teams are way better than they were in November. The biggest improvement is team defense. TBT teams have a lot of good offensive players. The teams that made Chicago were also pretty good on defense. However, they still were a collection of individual players vs. really well trained units. How many times did Buycks turn over the ball when he decided to do things on his own?
It doesn't matter. There is no college team at any point in the season who would best the last 8 of the tbt.
Quote from: swoopem on August 08, 2019, 07:47:55 AM
Didn't the MU squad scrimmage the alums last year and win? I think you guys are over reacting to what a talking head was saying during a broadcast..aka doing his job and trying to build hype
A truly laughable statement.
U do realize basically MUs starting Tbt lineup has spent time in the NBA correct?
Now please define anyother profession where an 18-21 year old with zero professional experience is better than a 30 yo in the same profession. Swoop plz stop making yourself look so silly
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on August 08, 2019, 11:25:51 AM
A truly laughable statement.
U do realize basically MUs starting Tbt lineup has spent time in the NBA correct?
Now please define anyother profession where an 18-21 year old with zero professional experience is better than a 30 yo in the same profession. Swoop plz stop making yourself look so silly
Swimming, gymnastics
Quote from: swoopem on August 08, 2019, 07:47:55 AM
Didn't the MU squad scrimmage the alums last year and win?
I don't think it was last year but one of the years, yes it did happen. IIRC, it was at one of the TBT's first practices and not all of the players were present.
I am in agreement with those who give any college basketball team little if any chance of beating a good TBT team.
If we had this Jamil Wilson, this Mo Acker, this Dwight Buycks, even this Derrick Wilson (not to mention this Elgin Cook), we would win the NCAA title.
Quote from: MU82 on August 08, 2019, 12:56:25 PM
I am in agreement with those who give any college basketball team little if any chance of beating a good TBT team.
If we had this Jamil Wilson, this Mo Acker, this Dwight Buycks, even this Derrick Wilson (not to mention this Elgin Cook), we would win the NCAA title.
Hell, we might have won several.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 08, 2019, 12:35:52 PM
I don't think it was last year but one of the years, yes it did happen. IIRC, it was at one of the TBT's first practices and not all of the players were present.
But Sand Kit says it's laughable??? Oh wait, it happened
Quote from: MU82 on August 08, 2019, 12:56:25 PM
I am in agreement with those who give any college basketball team little if any chance of beating a good TBT team.
If we had this Jamil Wilson, this Mo Acker, this Dwight Buycks, even this Derrick Wilson (not to mention this Elgin Cook), we would win the NCAA title.
This Dwight Buycks could average 35-40 in the Big East. Aaron Craft was the B10 Defensive POY twice, National DPOY, and has won awards for his defense in Europe as he's presumably gotten even better. There were multiple times Buycks flat out shook him to get his shot. There isn't a player in college that could lock him down. He averaged 20+ in China and still averaged 22 in the TBT despite not playing well in Chicago.
Not to mention Wilson. People just don't realize the gap up in ability that occurs when you play basketball full time with no other distractions.
A scrimmage in training camp is not the same as a game.
The most talented team doesn't always win......especially in a short scrimmage when the better team just started practicing.
I have little doubt that the MU TBT team would beat the last 3 MU college squads in a meaningful game or series of games. .....but a scrimmage?......you are working on stuff........some older guys might be a little out of shape or whatever......it could happen.