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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wadesworld on December 18, 2017, 10:50:30 PM
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Didn't get to see the game and not sure I'm going to have time to read through the entire game thread/post game threads, plus if it's a serious injury I'm thinking it would deserve it's own thread because that, my friends, would be the season.
Any word on Rowsey's injury? Sounds like he suffered a leg injury that didn't look good but that he was able to walk off on his own.
Thanks for any information.
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A guy from NIU came down on the back of AR's ankle and twisted it. He didn't come back into the game, but he walked back in and sat on the bench after a few minutes in the locker room. I'm guessing it isn't anything major...but then again I didn't stay at Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Wojo said tests tonight in post game presser. Markus said that AR told him he’d be fine. Maybe would be a bit surprised to see him Thursday but hopefully ready to go for X.
I was worrried when it happened. Didn’t look good.
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He was walking on it after it happened and then came out on the bench later. I think he'll be okay. Then again, I'm not a doctor and don't know anything about the injury.
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Btw Dickie Simpkins, Andrew Row "C"? Sorry, it bugs me. Row "Z" please.
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Jeff Levering calls him Rossey——-it’s not that difficult of a name.
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Just asking....
If he were to have to sit for 2 to 3 months...(MCL).....Effectively ending his season......Could he apply for a medical redshirt?
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it would be his 6 season and he has played in 11 games this year. So it would be unlikely. I think the cutoff is 10 games and that would be for someone that had not already sit out a year. How many years did Otule play he got Med redshirt also there was a either a Northwestern or Badger 6-7 years ago that got a 6 year. Maybe Even eschmeyer.
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Just asking....
If he were to have to sit for 2 to 3 months...(MCL).....Effectively ending his season......Could he apply for a medical redshirt?
We would have to play 37 games for him to be eligible. Has to play in less then 30% of the season.
So we would need to finish in the bottom four of the conference, make the BE championship, and then play three rounds of a postseason tournament
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We would have to play 37 games for him to be eligible. Has to play in less then 30% of the season.
So we would need to finish in the bottom four of the conference, make the BE championship, and then play three rounds of a postseason tournament
Don’t believe post-season games count.
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We would have to play 37 games for him to be eligible. Has to play in less then 30% of the season.
So we would need to finish in the bottom four of the conference, make the BE championship, and then play three rounds of a postseason tournament
So you’re saying there’s a chance
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We would have to play 37 games for him to be eligible. Has to play in less then 30% of the season.
So we would need to finish in the bottom four of the conference, make the BE championship, and then play three rounds of a postseason tournament
The conference tournament counts as one game. NCAA tournaments games don't count.
He would not be able since he played in over 30% of the games.
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We would have to play 37 games for him to be eligible. Has to play in less then 30% of the season.
So we would need to finish in the bottom four of the conference, make the BE championship, and then play three rounds of a postseason tournament
Nope. Not how it works (and it’s a medical hardship waiver... redshirt means you didn’t play).
The 30% is your scheduled games, plus the conf tourney counts as one, regardless of how many you play. The NCAA or other postseason tourneys count for nada
So, it’s 31 x 30% = 9.3. Per bylaws, round up to 10. He’s played in 11. Therefore he does not meet the criteria. If he did, getting a five year rule waiver would be the other issue - only missed one year due to somethingboutvofvhis control. Transfer year was by choice.
So, he’s got two things stacked against him. NCAA has done weird things in the past, but by rule he isn’t a medical hardship waiver candidate and isn’t a 6th year candidate
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Are we even sure Rowsey would want to play another year of college hoops?
He might say that he has proven he can play in the games he has already participated in this year, and he would rather go pro, wherever in the world that happens to be. It's not like he is going to grow six inches between now and the 2019 draft, or markedly improve his stats.
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Are we even sure Rowsey would want to play another year of college hoops?
He might say that he has proven he can play in the games he has already participated in this year, and he would rather go pro, wherever in the world that happens to be. It's not like he is going to grow six inches between now and the 2019 draft, or markedly improve his stats.
Sure? No..but I am sure the kid would love to play another year if he had to miss the rest of this season.
That being said, I am pretty hopeful that this isn't a long term injury. Maybe miss the American game, but I think he'll be ready to roll by next week. He seemed to be walking on it fine, and if they thought it was serious, I feel like he wouldn't have come back and it would have been on ice. But I am no doctor.
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video of the injury
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/942935768829489152
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At first it looked like an ACL injury the way he went down. Replay showed his back calf got stepped on by a player coming down which twisted his ankle and possibly caused a fracture to the leg bone. As long as thee is no break, I'd be happy to sacrifice Thrusday's game for no ACL injury.
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I thought the hit to the head might have knocked him woozy and that was the whole thing. Never saw him limping at all. Were they looking at the knee/leg?
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I thought the hit to the head might have knocked him woozy and that was the whole thing. Never saw him limping at all. Were they looking at the knee/leg?
Were you watching a replay of the Packers game? Davante Adams and Rowsey look nothing alike.
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video of the injury
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/942935768829489152
yikes.
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He'll be fine Im betting. Too much over-reaction right now.
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The refs called that play a travel on Rowsey, correct?
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The refs called that play a travel on Rowsey, correct?
Yeah. And I can understand why if they viewed the contact as incidental.
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Btw Dickie Simpkins, Andrew Row "C"? Sorry, it bugs me. Row "Z" please.
Dickie Simpkins wasn't even in the Bradley Center last night. Talk about things that bug people.
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Yep. It was Bardo, who is actually pretty good for a regional guy. Much better than Simpkins.
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I thought the hit to the head might have knocked him woozy and that was the whole thing. Never saw him limping at all. Were they looking at the knee/leg?
That’s what I initially thought as well. In the stadium, I thought he may have been concussed. I was surprised they didn’t review an elbow to the head.
I didn’t realize he had anything wrong with his leg until he was limping on his way to the tunnel.
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Dodds said on his board "the worry is about the knee"
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Dodds said on his board "the worry is about the knee"
I took it as a good sign he walked out under his own power in uniform. I figured he’d either be in street clothes and crutches or not come back at all if there was a big worry. Although, the public comments seem to show there is still some worry.
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I took it as a good sign he walked out under his own power in uniform. I figured he’d either be in street clothes and crutches or not come back at all if there was a big worry. Although, the public comments seem to show there is still some worry.
If I remember correctly, philly eagles qb Carson Wentz walked off the field with minimal difficulty with a ACL injury. I have a bad feeling on this one....
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If I remember correctly, philly eagles qb Carson Wentz walked off the field with minimal difficulty with a ACL injury. I have a bad feeling on this one....
I get that. Same with Brady. However, this is after he went to the locker room and had his knee examined a little bit. Maybe they didn’t do much of an examination and I’m just grasping at straws. I’ve heard it’s relatively easy to tell if an ACL is torn from a quick evaluation, but it takes time for the MRI to confirm.
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An ACL tear usually comes with perceptible looseness when pressure is applied medially. Usually. My guess is the staff would have wrapped the knee, at least, if that had been noticed. But there are LCLs and MCLs to worry about here too. In any case, that he could put weight on it and walk without difficulty is good, but might not be "basketball good".
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I get that. Same with Brady. However, this is after he went to the locker room and had his knee examined a little bit. Maybe they didn’t do much of an examination and I’m just grasping at straws. I’ve heard it’s relatively easy to tell if an ACL is torn from a quick evaluation, but it takes time for the MRI to confirm.
Doc followed him to the locker room and then Andrew came back in a bit. Hoping for a sprain like Vander in Maui. Similar type of play, IIRC.
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0% chance there are any torn ligaments. I know a doctor for a professional sports team and he once examined me for a torn ACL. Long story short, they would know immediately and he would NOT be in his jersey on the bench. Rowsey will be fine, likely back for X.
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I’m just nervous that we haven’t heard anything yet...If everything was good to go, you would think they would announce it as soon as they could...
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No way it was an ACL. Having done 3 of them (yes, one twice) I can confirm that it's like getting kicked in the balls by an elephant. No, I'd rather get kicked in the balls by an elephant. Rowsey wasn't in that kind of pain. Either an ankle or the bop to the head shook him up.
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0% chance there are any torn ligaments. I know a doctor for a professional sports team and he once examined me for a torn ACL. Long story short, they would know immediately and he would NOT be in his jersey on the bench. Rowsey will be fine, likely back for X.
I am a physician, and yes the exam is specific if positive, but for sure not sensitive if negative. It is reassuring they let him walk back to the bench though, that is what I am hanging my hopes on that this isn't season ending.
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Looks happy in this picture. Of course he’s standing next to Wade and Crowder but it doesn’t look like a guy who thinks his college career may be over.
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Looks happy in this picture. Of course he’s standing next to Wade and Crowder but it doesn’t look like a guy who thinks his college career may be over.
Kinda random that so many MU alumni are involved with the Cavs.
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NEED UPDATE.
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Just chill guys. We will know by Thursday.
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I will feel better if Nd when I hear that the injury is no more than a minor sprain or less and that he will be back at least for the Georgetown game next week.
But, after seeing Yovanni Gallardo going back to pitch and then being diagnosed with a torn ACL the next day, I am not comforted by seeing a player walking without much of a limp. Dodds report said Rowsey heard something pop in his leg, and that doesn’t sound good.
MU is on a thin margin already with only 9 scholarship players, including only 3 guards and 3 legitimate scoring threats. Losing Rowsey for any extended period would be extremely tough to overcome.
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0% chance there are any torn ligaments. I know a doctor for a professional sports team and he once examined me for a torn ACL. Long story short, they would know immediately and he would NOT be in his jersey on the bench. Rowsey will be fine, likely back for X.
I’ve seen guys tear their ACL early in a game, and remain in their jersey on the bench the rest of the game. 0% sounds silly, a1na?
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No way it was an ACL. Having done 3 of them (yes, one twice) I can confirm that it's like getting kicked in the balls by an elephant. No, I'd rather get kicked in the balls by an elephant. Rowsey wasn't in that kind of pain. Either an ankle or the bop to the head shook him up.
There are different kinds of ACL tears. When I tore mine (at the Rec Center no less), it was just like yours -- excruciating and absolutely required crutches. But, as referenced below re Gallardo, you can also tear your ACL and simply have a burning sensation that wears off. Yovani finished pitching his inning with a torn ACL, whereas mine immediately swelled to where I couldn't move the joint.
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Yeah, the instant I saw the replay, I cringed. The "down and in" buckle of the knee is exactly what gets an ACL. I walked off the field and drove home when I tore mine...didn't really hurt that much. Doc called me several days later after MRI results were in and told me it was ACL tear. Crushing news to get at work.
Dear God...let it only be a sprain.
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I will feel better if Nd when I hear that the injury is no more than a minor sprain or less and that he will be back at least for the Georgetown game next week.
But, after seeing Yovanni Gallardo going back to pitch and then being diagnosed with a torn ACL the next day, I am not comforted by seeing a player walking without much of a limp. Dodds report said Rowsey heard something pop in his leg, and that doesn’t sound good.
MU is on a thin margin already with only 9 scholarship players, including only 3 guards and 3 legitimate scoring threats. Losing Rowsey for any extended period would be extremely tough to overcome.
I saw it reported as feeling "a pull" not a pop on the other board. If he heard "a pop" that typically signifies an ACL tear, which would be very bad news. If it was "a pull" that could signify a less serious injury.
Waiting a bit on pins and needles. This would be as significant as an injury as D. James...except this time we'd be going from a fringe tournament team, to clearly out, instead of going from possible final four team to solid tournament team.
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Dickie Simpkins wasn't even in the Bradley Center last night. Talk about things that bug people.
All them black announcers sound the same,aina.
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There are different kinds of ACL tears. When I tore mine (at the Rec Center no less), it was just like yours -- excruciating and absolutely required crutches. But, as referenced below re Gallardo, you can also tear your ACL and simply have a burning sensation that wears off. Yovani finished pitching his inning with a torn ACL, whereas mine immediately swelled to where I couldn't move the joint.
Hey, I tore my ACL at the Rec Center as well! Just posting to back this comment up - there are a lot of ligaments in the knee. The only way to confirm for sure what happened is an MRI. Anyone saying a ZERO percent chance or 100 percent chance of anything relative to knee injuries is full of it. For me, it was excruciating pain immediately. A person I work with finished the soccer game they were playing in, then was diagnosed with a full ACL tear. Sooo it can be different for different people.
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0% chance there are any torn ligaments. I know a doctor for a professional sports team and he once examined me for a torn ACL. Long story short, they would know immediately and he would NOT be in his jersey on the bench. Rowsey will be fine, likely back for X.
This is 100% incorrect.
I tore my ACL playing basketball on at lunch on a Monday. My wife, who is a PT of 10 years, didn't think it was an ACL when she looked at it that night. Went to a well known ortho doc she works with and does countless ACLs, he tested everything and thought it was a meniscus tear. I went on a business trip for a couple of days, knee didn't feel right but I could walk without issue and not too much pain. Had an MRI on Friday morning......that afternoon the doc called me on the 7th green to tell me to stop whatever I was doing because the MRI revealed a vaporized ACL, torn meniscus, and an impact injury that might require microfracture to resolve.
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No way it was an ACL. Having done 3 of them (yes, one twice) I can confirm that it's like getting kicked in the balls by an elephant. No, I'd rather get kicked in the balls by an elephant. Rowsey wasn't in that kind of pain. Either an ankle or the bop to the head shook him up.
Was at the game, with a very good view of where he went down and the medical staff tending to him. I thought it was an ankle at first when I saw the action, but they did not even check the ankle, the focus was on the knee.
I hoping(guessing) it isn't an ACL but more likely something like an MCL sprain or a temporary patella displacement (partially or temporarily dislocated knee cap). Who knows, but ACL definitely isn't off the table based on what I saw.
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This is 100% incorrect.
I tore my ACL playing basketball on at lunch on a Monday. My wife, who is a PT of 10 years, didn't think it was an ACL when she looked at it that night. Went to a well known ortho doc she works with and does countless ACLs, he tested everything and thought it was a meniscus tear. I went on a business trip for a couple of days, knee didn't feel right but I could walk without issue and not too much pain. Had an MRI on Friday morning......that afternoon the doc called me on the 7th green to tell me to stop whatever I was doing because the MRI revealed a vaporized ACL, torn meniscus, and an impact injury that might require microfracture to resolve.
And don't forget Dejuan Blair lost both ACLs due to botched surgeries and played both college and professional basketball with no ACLs. Depending on the strength of surrounding muscles, the effect of an ACL tear will be different in all people as far as how the initial impact will be felt.
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If Rowsey has to miss significant time, the impact on this season would be devastating. Just gotta hope its something minor.
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Nope. Not how it works (and it’s a medical hardship waiver... redshirt means you didn’t play).
The 30% is your scheduled games, plus the conf tourney counts as one, regardless of how many you play. The NCAA or other postseason tourneys count for nada
So, it’s 31 x 30% = 9.3. Per bylaws, round up to 10. He’s played in 11. Therefore he does not meet the criteria. If he did, getting a five year rule waiver would be the other issue - only missed one year due to somethingboutvofvhis control. Transfer year was by choice.
So, he’s got two things stacked against him. NCAA has done weird things in the past, but by rule he isn’t a medical hardship waiver candidate and isn’t a 6th year candidate
Mea Culpa. That's why I'm just a padawan
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Ok, what’s the upside. Of course this is a net negative if he misses any time. But if just American, more minutes to spread around. If X that’s a real bummer. Hoping that will be an upset win. But if AR misses the X game, the opportunities for step up immense.
So I’ll look forward to see what hsppens.
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Ok, what’s the upside. Of course this is a net negative if he misses any time. But if just American, more minutes to spread around. If X that’s a real bummer. Hoping that will be an upset win. But if AR misses the X game, the opportunities for step up immense.
So I’ll look forward to see what hsppens.
I'm figuring he is at least out until Georgetown. Hoping that is not the case, but that is the earliest I'm expecting him back at this point. Hopefully not much much worse.
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I've mildly sprained my MCL before (which looks like it may be the case) and felt a poping sensation. Hopefully that's the worse case scenario here.
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I've mildly sprained my MCL before (which looks like it may be the case here) and felt a poping sensation. Hopefully that's the worse case scenario here.
This is what I'm leaning to as well. I partially tore my LCL (opposite side of the knee) in almost the same way as Rowsey (but knee moving in opposite direction). Played another 10 minutes of basketball fine, until I started to notice that I didn't feel as stable on that knee. Quit playing and saved myself a more significant injury.
Was back playing basketball in about 3-4 weeks.
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Hoping the Scoop Orthopods are as accurate with their diagnoses as they were with Harry’s first game stat predictions, aina?
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And don't forget Dejuan Blair lost both ACLs due to botched surgeries and played both college and professional basketball with no ACLs. Depending on the strength of surrounding muscles, the effect of an ACL tear will be different in all people as far as how the initial impact will be felt.
Nobody who ever saw Dejuan Blair play could ever forget he had no ACLs - the announcers wouldn't let you.
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And don't forget Dejuan Blair lost both ACLs due to botched surgeries and played both college and professional basketball with no ACLs. Depending on the strength of surrounding muscles, the effect of an ACL tear will be different in all people as far as how the initial impact will be felt.
And he wuz 17 yo two, hey?
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And don't forget Dejuan Blair lost both ACLs due to botched surgeries and played both college and professional basketball with no ACLs. Depending on the strength of surrounding muscles, the effect of an ACL tear will be different in all people as far as how the initial impact will be felt.
And don't forget that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 feet through the Spanish announcer's table.
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No two injuries are the same as no two rehabilitations are the same. If he's out "indefinitely," that's what it means. The docs don't know, the trainers don't know and Rowsey doesn't know. With that being said, there was some good news last night in that he walked back without crutches. The part I saw, there was no "ACL" testing being done on court and his knee was in full extension (hamstrings tend to tighten after an ACL tear, not allowing the knee to get fully straight).
Kind of off topic, but a lot of ligaments are aneural (no "pain" innervation), so the pain that you get from a ligament tear is usually something else (with ACL's, impact from the femur on the tibia causing a bone bruise).
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I'm impressed at the number of physicians in here who can diagnose an injury, determine its severity and assess how long the patient will be immobilized from afar.
Medical science in Wisconsin is way ahead of the rest of the nation!
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Not surprising, that's why we come here.
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And don't forget Dejuan Blair lost both ACLs due to botched surgeries and played both college and professional basketball with no ACLs. Depending on the strength of surrounding muscles, the effect of an ACL tear will be different in all people as far as how the initial impact will be felt.
Sean Elliott tore his ACL when he was a kid and never got it fixed had a long NBA career.
I tore my ACL in my right knee in 1991. Never got it fixed. Going on a quarter century of skiing, basketball, running etc.
We overdo the "fixing" of knee injuries. A lot of them should just heal and learn how to deal with it.
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Scoop today:
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I assume I've had an un-diagnosed ACL injury since high school. That would completely explain my lack of explosion on the court over all these years.
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I'm impressed at the number of physicians in here who can diagnose an injury, determine its severity and assess how long the patient will be immobilized from afar.
Medical science in Wisconsin is way ahead of the rest of the nation!
Marquette Medical School is alive and well!
Also, for the record: I saw Rowsey today outside of Jimmy Johns. He had a boot from his foot up to his shoulder. (More body armor than a boot, tbh.) The boot had a Jimmy Johns bumper sticker on it. Take it for what it's worth.
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Sean Elliott tore his ACL when he was a kid and never got it fixed had a long NBA career.
I tore my ACL in my right knee in 1991. Never got it fixed. Going on a quarter century of skiing, basketball, running etc.
We overdo the "fixing" of knee injuries. A lot of them should just heal and learn how to deal with it.
This is true. Ever since I had my second knee surgery I have to put ample amounts of biofreeze on my knee before soccer, Hurling, boxing or any running. The “fixing” can make things worse
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Sean Elliott tore his ACL when he was a kid and never got it fixed had a long NBA career.
I tore my ACL in my right knee in 1991. Never got it fixed. Going on a quarter century of skiing, basketball, running etc.
We overdo the "fixing" of knee injuries. A lot of them should just heal and learn how to deal with it.
I tore mine in half in April, 1989, without getting it fixed, then tore the meniscus in the same knee almost a year to the day later wearing a brace (got some money out of a company for that one). I also have the same results as Heisey, able to do most everything, though I'd wear an updated and improved brace to play balls out basketball or racquetball.
But the reason I didn't get it fixed was that I was a weekend athlete at the time, not playing Division I nor planning on playing overseas at some point after it healed. The standard, even now, is to fix it regardless of whether one is a weekend athlete or not. If AR tore it, there is no doubt that he's going to have it repaired.
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Imagine Sean Elliott with two ACLs. . . Wow!
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Ners tore both of his ACLs, his MCL, and blew out an achilles heel. Dude still throws down alley-oops at the Oak Creek YMCA to this day.
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If Rowsey has to miss significant time, the impact on this season would be devastating. Just gotta hope its something minor.
If by devastating you mean virtually no chance to make the NCAA I would agree.
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I'm impressed at the number of physicians in here who can diagnose an injury, determine its severity and assess how long the patient will be immobilized from afar.
Medical science in Wisconsin is way ahead of the rest of the nation!
My diagnosis is that Scoopers are really, really smart.
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If by devastating you mean virtually no chance to make the NCAA I would agree.
Yep, that would qualify as devastating.
I do think it'd be a nice trial by fire for Howard running the point everytime he is on the court. Maybe that team finds a way to 8-10 and sneaks in...but yah, probably not. Offense would take a big hit, but not playing Howard and Rowsey together would help the D.
But there is a no way to spin it into a net positive. Need Rowsey to be OK.
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I assume I've had an un-diagnosed ACL injury since high school. That would completely explain my lack of explosion on the court over all these years.
ACL does not affect that ... you're just unathletic :)
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Imagine Sean Elliott with two ACLs. . . Wow!
Like David Boone + 2" !!!
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But the reason I didn't get it fixed was that I was a weekend athlete at the time, not playing Division I nor planning on playing overseas at some point after it healed. The standard, even now, is to fix it regardless of whether one is a weekend athlete or not. If AR tore it, there is no doubt that he's going to have it repaired.
IMO, the biggest reason every injury gets surgery is teams often hire surgeons to be on call for their athletes ... and this is what surgeons do.
When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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I tore mine in half in April, 1989, without getting it fixed, then tore the meniscus in the same knee almost a year to the day later wearing a brace (got some money out of a company for that one). I also have the same results as Heisey, able to do most everything, though I'd wear an updated and improved brace to play balls out basketball or racquetball.
But the reason I didn't get it fixed was that I was a weekend athlete at the time, not playing Division I nor planning on playing overseas at some point after it healed. The standard, even now, is to fix it regardless of whether one is a weekend athlete or not. If AR tore it, there is no doubt that he's going to have it repaired.
The standard is not necessarily to fix it. I could go into more details, but if you don't want to play cutting sports, you don't need it. Then there is the grouping of people into coper vs. non-copers and if people can't do everyday tasks without it, then they recommend surgery. A surgeon who recommends ACL repair for everyone, is not someone I would recommend.
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I think no news is good news. Thanks for conveying as much via a million posts, Scoop.
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ACL does not affect that ... you're just unathletic :)
How dare you....
I dunked on a 9 foot hoop once.
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Ners tore both of his ACLs, his MCL, and blew out an achilles heel. Dude still throws down alley-oops at the Oak Creek YMCA to this day.
I can't be positive, but I believe he may have played high school basketball, as well.
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IMO, the biggest reason every injury gets surgery is teams often hire surgeons to be on call for their athletes ... and this is what surgeons do.
When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Those are bad surgeons then.
I had a couple of bad discs and was referred to a surgeon for a consult. The surgeon took a look at my scans and talked about my goals - getting back to cycling - and said he could operate, but recommended that I first try more conservative therapy. Within a few weeks, I was back on my bike. Several years later - and with daily core strength exercises - I regularly ride 50+ miles at a time.
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This is true. Ever since I had my second knee surgery I have to put ample amounts of biofreeze on my knee before soccer, Hurling, boxing or any running. The “fixing” can make things worse
27 years ago, I had an orthopedic surgeon chomping at the bit to scope the knee that I hurt falling off a ski lift. Then I found out I was pregnant, so the doctor prescribed PT instead. I haven't had trouble with it since, even while training for and running half marathons.
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you all must be seeing marquette trained PT's 8-)
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I am getting reports that a shortish man in a head-to-toe body cast is being wheeled Hannibal-Lecter-style into Humphrey Hall. No actual confirmation on who it is, but he had a perfectly coiffed undercut and lunged stiffly at a guy who bumped into him on the sidewalk.
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I am getting reports that a shortish man in a head-to-toe body cast is being wheeled Hannibal-Lecter-style into Humphrey Hall. No actual confirmation on who it is, but he had a perfectly coiffed undercut and lunged stiffly at a guy who bumped into him on the sidewalk.
Teal??
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I am getting reports that a shortish man in a head-to-toe body cast is being wheeled Hannibal-Lecter-style into Humphrey Hall. No actual confirmation on who it is, but he had a perfectly coiffed undercut and lunged stiffly at a guy who bumped into him on the sidewalk.
Well played!
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I'm impressed at the number of physicians in here who can diagnose an injury, determine its severity and assess how long the patient will be immobilized from afar.
Medical science in Wisconsin is way ahead of the rest of the nation!
Many non-Wisconsinites on here, bud.
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Many non-Wisconsinites on here, bud.
Not the smart ones, though.
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I am getting reports that a shortish man in a head-to-toe body cast is being wheeled Hannibal-Lecter-style into Humphrey Hall. No actual confirmation on who it is, but he had a perfectly coiffed undercut and lunged stiffly at a guy who bumped into him on the sidewalk.
So that's what happened to Bo Ryan.
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This thread was entertaining. So many personal anecdotes, so little time.
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27 years ago, I had an orthopedic surgeon chomping at the bit to scope the knee that I hurt falling off a ski lift. Then I found out I was pregnant, so the doctor prescribed PT instead. I haven't had trouble with it since, even while training for and running half marathons.
The doctor was the baby daddy? Does glow know?
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I hurt my knee once. I thought I needed surgery but then it got better. I now climb mountains every few hours. Ergo, Rowsey is fine and doesn't need surgery.
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I have crushed cartledge from football, no surgery. Too many cynics around here.
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This thread reminds me a little bit of when I heard Paul was dead.
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We should all say a Rowsery for his quick recovery.
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The doctor was the baby daddy? Does glow know?
Well, I guess he knows now.
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It's interesting how so many people think that a certain type of injury always presents just the way that theirs did.
The fact of the matter is that you often cannot diagnose a knee problem on the basis of physical exam alone, no matter how thorough.
I think we're just going to have to wait and hope.
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I’m sorry to break the string of personal interest stories and snarky (but funny) responses.....But any news on actual AR condition? Or just wait for Homer and Mac tomorrow night?
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I’m sorry to break the string of personal interest stories and snarky (but funny) responses.....But any news on actual AR condition? Or just wait for Homer and Mac tomorrow night?
Um, he's hurt. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Andrew pass out at Caffrey's last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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This thread reminds me a little bit of when I heard Paul was dead.
Rowsey is dead?
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I hurt my leg one time and I didnt need surgery. Rowsey should drop 30 against American.
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Rowsey is dead?
1 Wojo 15:5
and on the third day he rose and beat American
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Rowsey practicing today.
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@marquettembb
#mubb @drewskirowsey30 expected to practice today in advance of Thursday's non-conference finale vs. American at the @BMOHBC
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@marquettembb
#mubb @drewskirowsey30 expected to practice today in advance of Thursday's non-conference finale vs. American at the @BMOHBC
HE'S ALIVE! WOOP WOOP!
Seriously, that is great news.
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@marquettembb
#mubb @drewskirowsey30 expected to practice today in advance of Thursday's non-conference finale vs. American at the @BMOHBC
Rowzerus
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Um, he's hurt. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Andrew pass out at Caffrey's last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
You freaked me out a little bit with this because I do know that Rowsey hangs out at Caffrey's.
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@marquettembb
#mubb @drewskirowsey30 expected to practice today in advance of Thursday's non-conference finale vs. American at the @BMOHBC
Great news!—thanks for the update.
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You freaked me out a little bit with this because I do know that Rowsey hangs out at Caffrey's.
Seems like more of a JTO’s guy.
More serious question though, when I was at MU it seemed like the BBall players were absent from the bars, absent from parties sort of not a part of that part of campus but I’ve heard stories and personally seen some of wojos guys around. Was there any rule buzz had against partying or was I just at all the wrong spots?
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When I was there ('13) the men's team more stuck to themselves rather than go to house parties. I knew Jamil pretty well as well as a few of the managers and they always said that they would stick to drinking at the Hump. However, Junior and Otule came out to our senior bar crawl that was pretty fun.
Also, to no one's surprise, in the summer Davante was always at Dogg Haus around 1:30 Thursday thru Saturday.
Seems like more of a JTO’s guy.
More serious question though, when I was at MU it seemed like the BBall players were absent from the bars, absent from parties sort of not a part of that part of campus but I’ve heard stories and personally seen some of wojos guys around. Was there any rule buzz had against partying or was I just at all the wrong spots?
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Seems like more of a JTO’s guy.
More serious question though, when I was at MU it seemed like the BBall players were absent from the bars, absent from parties sort of not a part of that part of campus but I’ve heard stories and personally seen some of wojos guys around. Was there any rule buzz had against partying or was I just at all the wrong spots?
Definitely the wrong spots, haha. Not a Buzz player but Barro used to come to my fraternity's house for just about every party we threw.
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When I was there ('13) the men's team more stuck to themselves rather than go to house parties. I knew Jamil pretty well as well as a few of the managers and they always said that they would stick to drinking at the Hump. However, Junior and Otule came out to our senior bar crawl that was pretty fun.
Also, to no one's surprise, in the summer Davante was always at Dogg Haus around 1:30 Thursday thru Saturday.
We were the same year then because I was 09-14. Definitely remember them at dog Haus. Thanks for the answer!
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Seems like more of a JTO’s guy.
More serious question though, when I was at MU it seemed like the BBall players were absent from the bars, absent from parties sort of not a part of that part of campus but I’ve heard stories and personally seen some of wojos guys around. Was there any rule buzz had against partying or was I just at all the wrong spots?
I was 06-10 and the players were out all the time. Mostly at Angelo's and Murphy's, but I'd see them occasionally at house parties.
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Many non-Wisconsinites on here, bud.
I recognize this, being in Florida and all. But I assume that most of the people in here received their medical training at the Marquette University Golden Eagle School of Optimistic Medical Recovery.
They were taught by the late Rev. Reginald White, MD, and Professor of Miraculous Healing who came back from a tear in his Achilles Tendon to lead the Green Bay Packers to the Super Bowl within three weeks.
That or it must be Lourdes Water.
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IMO, the biggest reason every injury gets surgery is teams often hire surgeons to be on call for their athletes ... and this is what surgeons do.
When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
I've actually had the opposite experience in my limited years. I had very severe sleep apnea for about four years as a result of breaking my nose four times and having huge tonsils that never shrunk after a bad case of mono. I did a sleep study and they said I was having an apnea once every 40 seconds...so basically I didn't sleep for four years. My ENT wanted me to do CPAP therapy first. I tried for a few months and it didn't help. I begged him and a few others in my area to try a surgical fix but they all insisted that it wouldn't work and I should stay on the CPAP. It wasn't until I flew back to Minnesota got an opinion from the freaking Mayo Clinic that I was able to convince one of them to do the surgery. Two years later and I am still apnea free!
Seriously, if there is any chance you have sleep apnea, go and have a sleep study done. Getting that managed completely changed my life for the better. I've found a lot of people dismiss and ignore it but it has a huge impact on quality of life.
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I was 06-10 and the players were out all the time. Mostly at Angelo's and Murphy's, but I'd see them occasionally at house parties.
Mo Acker once told me he carries two phones, "one for business and one for pleasure" at Caffrey's. That was an outlier, though, I don't believe they were there regularly.
Ousmane made semi-regular appearances at my house parties as well.
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Yeah I never saw the Crowder, DJO, Jamil group out my first couple years at MU. But once my buddies and I got a house off-campus and would see Duane, Deonte, and Jajuan in our living room when having a party, I knew a new wave of guys had officially come in. Wojo runs a much tighter ship than Buzz though so I don't think there's much of a correlation between seeing guys out and program maintenance.
Also, Rowsey is a riot out at the bars. That combined with his small stature makes his incredible offensive game all the more surprising.
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Rowsey practicing today.
That is wonderful new. The readers of Horse and Hound will be very relieved.
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Collective exhale.
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That is wonderful new. The readers of Horse and Hound will be very relieved.
Love that movie!
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Love that movie!
Yeah one of my favorites, I'm always a sucker for nice endings.
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Mo Acker once told me he carries two phones, "one for business and one for pleasure" at Caffrey's. That was an outlier, though, I don't believe they were there regularly.
Ousmane made semi-regular appearances at my house parties as well.
Was it at Renee Row? I always enjoyed running into Ousmane at parties there. Dom went to a good amount of parties as well, I always tried to offer him a beverage, he smartly declined each time.
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I've actually had the opposite experience in my limited years. I had very severe sleep apnea for about four years as a result of breaking my nose four times and having huge tonsils that never shrunk after a bad case of mono. I did a sleep study and they said I was having an apnea once every 40 seconds...so basically I didn't sleep for four years. My ENT wanted me to do CPAP therapy first. I tried for a few months and it didn't help. I begged him and a few others in my area to try a surgical fix but they all insisted that it wouldn't work and I should stay on the CPAP. It wasn't until I flew back to Minnesota got an opinion from the freaking Mayo Clinic that I was able to convince one of them to do the surgery. Two years later and I am still apnea free!
Seriously, if there is any chance you have sleep apnea, go and have a sleep study done. Getting that managed completely changed my life for the better. I've found a lot of people dismiss and ignore it but it has a huge impact on quality of life.
But did it make you a better basketball analyst?
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Dave Singleton (remember him?) used to pretend to be Jimmy Butler at Murphy's to hit on girls. It worked.
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I've actually had the opposite experience in my limited years. I had very severe sleep apnea for about four years as a result of breaking my nose four times and having huge tonsils that never shrunk after a bad case of mono. I did a sleep study and they said I was having an apnea once every 40 seconds...so basically I didn't sleep for four years. My ENT wanted me to do CPAP therapy first. I tried for a few months and it didn't help. I begged him and a few others in my area to try a surgical fix but they all insisted that it wouldn't work and I should stay on the CPAP. It wasn't until I flew back to Minnesota got an opinion from the freaking Mayo Clinic that I was able to convince one of them to do the surgery. Two years later and I am still apnea free!
Seriously, if there is any chance you have sleep apnea, go and have a sleep study done. Getting that managed completely changed my life for the better. I've found a lot of people dismiss and ignore it but it has a huge impact on quality of life.
My guess is that at least part of the reason was your insurance wouldn't pay for surgery until you tried CPAP.
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Dave Singleton (remember him?) used to pretend to be Jimmy Butler at Murphy's to hit on girls. It worked.
Dave Singleton gave chick jr. his phone number his first week of school (and used his real name). I guess he hadn't figured out the JFB scam at that point.
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I just played the clip of Rowsey's injury backward and Bardo clearly says, "Rowsey is dead! Rowsey is dead!"
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Was it at Renee Row? I always enjoyed running into Ousmane at parties there. Dom went to a good amount of parties as well, I always tried to offer him a beverage, he smartly declined each time.
19th and Kilbourn. I wasn't classy enough for Renee Row.
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Dave Singleton gave chick jr. his phone number his first week of school (and used his real name). I guess he hadn't figured out the JFB scam at that point.
The next morning?
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The next morning?
Theres the room clearer.
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Mo Acker once told me he carries two phones, "one for business and one for pleasure" at Caffrey's. That was an outlier, though, I don't believe they were there regularly.
Ousmane made semi-regular appearances at my house parties as well.
I had a history class with Mayo... he carried two phones, but I think one was just for looking up answers during exams. Everyother player I had a class with seemed like decent students but he made no effort to even pretend he cared about classes.
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The next morning?
Bold move, Cotton.
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The next morning?
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No worries. We get the humor. Don't quit your day job. 8-)
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No worries. We get the humor. Don't quit your day job. 8-)
Chick Jr. is smart. She ain't giving it up for no walk-on.
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Chick Jr. is smart. She ain't giving it up for no walk-on.
Theoretical couldn’t putting that in teal mean she did give it up for a walk on or that the entire thing was meant to be humorous?
Figure I’d let you know there’s still a weird response sand knit could give
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Theoretical couldn’t putting that in teal mean she did give it up for a walk on or that the entire thing was meant to be humorous?
To my knowledge chick jr. did not fraternize with basketball players of any scholarship status.
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To my knowledge chick jr. did not fraternize with basketball players of any scholarship status.
TMI lol
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19th and Kilbourn. I wasn't classy enough for Renee Row.
Me too. 1918. You?
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Me too. 1918. You?
853 N 19th. We signed our lease in the fall of 2004 and then a few weeks later some kids got shot there at a house party. Moved in the following summer and there was still a bullet hole in the staircase. That landlord was something else.
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You were across from the school, now rescue mission? We were on Kilbourn.
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You were across from the school, now rescue mission? We were on Kilbourn.
Correct, right on the corner
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That landlord was something else.
Chris Ganos?
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Rowsey is dressed and running warm-up normally.
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Rowsey is dressed and running warm-up normally.
Bardo’s medical career is off to a shaky start.
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Bardo’s medical career is off to a shaky start.
rowsey limping coming off court at half
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Chris Ganos?
Gary Michaels if I recall correctly.
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Six pages of responses to a non injury. What a country.
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To my knowledge chick jr. did not fraternize with basketball players of any scholarship status.
I didn't tell my parents of my sexual conquests in college.
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I didn't tell my parents of my sexual conquests in college.
But did you tell them of your sexual mishaps?
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I didn't tell my parents of my sexual conquests in college.
...maybe bc they had intimate knowledge of said conquests, thereby making telling them unecessary a1na?
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But did you tell them of your sexual mishaps?
Those I kept locked in a part of my brain I don't access
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I didn't tell my parents of my sexual conquests in college.
Your right hand isn’t really a “conquest.”
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Your right hand isn’t really a “conquest.”
What about the left hand?
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The off hand definitely counts.