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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on February 10, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
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JJJ for SOTG. Nersaloop (TW) told me so.
Victory for the WARRIORS!!!!
Dunks, what say you?
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Anyone else have a problem with fox sports go tonight (no authorized message)? And yes, I have an xfinity subscription with FS1.
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Baby blues again!
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Baby blues again!
Uh oh. Baby blues. National TV. We can't possibly win!
Wait...
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Anyways, feel free to join...well, just me right now...in the Gameday Chat.
http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php
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Anyone else have a problem with fox sports go tonight (no authorized message)? And yes, I have an xfinity subscription with FS1.
I am as well and now it is saying that "Due to league restrictions, this event is not available in your area." What the fook.
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My wife won't let me as it makes too much noise
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Baby blues again!
Till we lose
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My wife won't let me as it makes too much noise
You got a keeper.
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Actually it's one of her very few complaints. Gameday Chat and maybe beer
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I am as well and now it is saying that "Due to league restrictions, this event is not available in your area." What the fook.
Got it to work by going through the Xfinity live tv link...
http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/watch-live-tv
Still concerning that Fox's website is flaky.
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Gameday chat was always funnier than "game thread"
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baby blues because of Autism Speakers / Coaches Powering Forward for Autism.
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Is that Ben H. back in the studio? Man, he'd look good on the BMO floor right now! ::)
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Actually it's one of her very few complaints. Gameday Chat and maybe beer
You can mute the sound inside of chat.
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Got it to work by going through the Xfinity live tv link...
http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/watch-live-tv
Still concerning that Fox's website is flaky.
Awesome! thanks Rocky
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My wife won't let me as it makes too much noise
ZFB and his pals recommend astroglide
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When will there be a chat interface that works on an iPhone?
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luuuuke
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juuaaaann
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jjjjjjjjjj
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Poor shot by JjJ but made up for it with the shot in the paint.
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luuuuke on both ends so nice to see
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bad TO with only 3 on the clock; Luke needs to get it lower
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Good start lots of good passing into Luke.
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Playing well as a team. Great passing, awesome help D on Stainbrook.
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Nice floater
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Luke looking gassed early. He's going to have to work hard tonight, but it's an encouraging start.
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Don't let up. Don't ever let up.- Jimmy V
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Who are these guys?
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oh, sandy
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oh, sandy
x 2
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I hate when guys don't realize the shot clock.
LSU lost cuz of that
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oh, sandy
After that I'm sure he'll get yanked. Must be more mind games.
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Starting five looked good. Need something from Steve and Sandy.
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After that I'm sure he'll get yanked. Must be more mind games.
Only happens to JJJ
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good D by duane-tough call
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great D by Luke and nice board bt Steve
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is OMeara the kid from Bennet?
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I'm tired of seeing Abell hit 3s...
We're doing a great job getting the ball to Luke. Have to convert those.
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This sums up my thoughts on the game so far.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuWQfMGjZF4 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuWQfMGjZF4)
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Have to at least start attempting jump shots to open up the lane.
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Going on another of our can't score benders.
May get ugly soon
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Up 11 five minutes ago. 3 turnovers and 6 missed shots.
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Nice pass by Derrick, strong finish by JJJ....
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I like JJJ without the headband
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Oh sweet, they brought back the commercial comparing Hilliard to a Golden Eagle. Where's Derrick Wilson the Musketeer and Luke Fischer the Pirate?
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JJJ with the assist from.....drumroll....Derrick. :o :o :o
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Did you hear the announcer? Wake up call for JjJ? Everyone knows he was being toyed with by WoJo.
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JJJ has very good instincts , his cut through to the three point play was a good example. Nice pass from Derrick.
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bad derrick
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Ggood lord derrick.
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This is bad.
About to get F'ing destroyed
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I'd like to see Sandy get a look and take a 3. Or 2.
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Admittedly I've never played, nor had seats near a coach .. and this is one of the first seasons where TV has broadcast in-the-huddle conversations ..
.. Every time they let us listen to Wojo, it seems like he's just full of platitudes. "We can't let our emotions go up and down, blah blah" was right now. But I've heard him a few other times, and it's "we gotta play hard and try harder for rebounds" "we gotta fight for the ball more" ..
Is that how huddles usually go? I guess I was thinking it'd be more about strategy, like _how_ to get the rebound, not just a pep talk.
I mean, I get that some times you need to give a pep talk, but through this season, I've never heard anything but that from Wojo. ???
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no complaint with that shot by sandy
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If 12 & 10 didn't play another minute this season I would be more than fine with that.
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And of course sandy has two down and outs while their white boy rains.
Never seen a team with worse luck
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Bad stretch by Derrick and Steve. Sandy's shots are sooooo close.
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Admittedly I've never played, nor had seats near a coach .. and this is one of the first seasons where TV has broadcast in-the-huddle conversations ..
.. Every time they let us listen to Wojo, it seems like he's just full of platitudes. "We can't let our emotions go up and down, blah blah" was right now. But I've heard him a few other times, and it's "we gotta play hard and try harder for rebounds" "we gotta fight for the ball more" ..
Is that how huddles usually go? I guess I was thinking it'd be more about strategy, like _how_ to get the rebound, not just a pep talk.
I mean, I get that some times you need to give a pep talk, but through this season, I've never heard anything but that from Wojo. ???
Hard to teach in 2 mins in the huddle. Most of that is pregame and halftime
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If 12 & 10 didn't play another minute this season I would be more than fine with that.
Ditto
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Admittedly I've never played, nor had seats near a coach .. and this is one of the first seasons where TV has broadcast in-the-huddle conversations ..
.. Every time they let us listen to Wojo, it seems like he's just full of platitudes. "We can't let our emotions go up and down, blah blah" was right now. But I've heard him a few other times, and it's "we gotta play hard and try harder for rebounds" "we gotta fight for the ball more" ..
Is that how huddles usually go? I guess I was thinking it'd be more about strategy, like _how_ to get the rebound, not just a pep talk.
I mean, I get that some times you need to give a pep talk, but through this season, I've never heard anything but that from Wojo. ???
Had the exact same thought; I assume/hope that when the moment calls for x's nd O's (inbounds play; change up of ahow to ttack an unexpected defense), he does it, but they have not shown that at all
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And of course sandy has two down and outs while their white boy rains.
Never seen a team with worse luck
Derrick was the defender twice on him. Guy can shoot elitely......
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Our best offense has come in transition. Gotta run when we can. Half court sets have been bad to say the least.
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Admittedly I've never played, nor had seats near a coach .. and this is one of the first seasons where TV has broadcast in-the-huddle conversations ..
.. Every time they let us listen to Wojo, it seems like he's just full of platitudes. "We can't let our emotions go up and down, blah blah" was right now. But I've heard him a few other times, and it's "we gotta play hard and try harder for rebounds" "we gotta fight for the ball more" ..
Is that how huddles usually go? I guess I was thinking it'd be more about strategy, like _how_ to get the rebound, not just a pep talk.
I mean, I get that some times you need to give a pep talk, but through this season, I've never heard anything but that from Wojo. ???
I noticed this too. I played for a number of coaches in high school and AAU and usually pep talks were reserved for the locker room. Huddles would be more x & o's and adjustments
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Admittedly I've never played, nor had seats near a coach .. and this is one of the first seasons where TV has broadcast in-the-huddle conversations ..
.. Every time they let us listen to Wojo, it seems like he's just full of platitudes. "We can't let our emotions go up and down, blah blah" was right now. But I've heard him a few other times, and it's "we gotta play hard and try harder for rebounds" "we gotta fight for the ball more" ..
Is that how huddles usually go? I guess I was thinking it'd be more about strategy, like _how_ to get the rebound, not just a pep talk.
I mean, I get that some times you need to give a pep talk, but through this season, I've never heard anything but that from Wojo. ???
did anyone else notice how he was only looking at JjJ in the huddle? Like he's the only one who needs to be told anything? Damn that WoJo!
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Another stupid derrick play and leads to and 1.
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Sandy missed the baseline double on Stainbrook....
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ended I think an 18-3 run?
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Admittedly I've never played, nor had seats near a coach .. and this is one of the first seasons where TV has broadcast in-the-huddle conversations ..
.. Every time they let us listen to Wojo, it seems like he's just full of platitudes. "We can't let our emotions go up and down, blah blah" was right now. But I've heard him a few other times, and it's "we gotta play hard and try harder for rebounds" "we gotta fight for the ball more" ..
Is that how huddles usually go? I guess I was thinking it'd be more about strategy, like _how_ to get the rebound, not just a pep talk.
I mean, I get that some times you need to give a pep talk, but through this season, I've never heard anything but that from Wojo. ???
Valid point, I think it's just too small of a sample size to know for sure how Wojo's huddles go. I'm sure it's just part of the coaching learning curve: how to come up with something in every single huddle. To Wojo's credit, he drew up a great in-bounds play that got Sandy a wide open look, just didn't knock it down.
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I was just thinking Du needs to get involved.
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At least Derrick still playing D.
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ended I think an 18-3 run?
19-3...was 16-5.
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At least Derrick still playing D.
Lol and elite D at that!!!!!
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just how I would haave drawn it up; Derrick dribbling until we need a bail out 3 from...Juuannn!!!!
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If 12 & 10 didn't play another minute this season I would be more than fine with that.
Anderson has 9 pts (4/6 shooting) and 4 rebs at the half. You'd be fine with that?
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What's in the glass tonight?
Just poured some Pendleton here.
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just how I would haave drawn it up; Derrick dribbling until we need a bail out 3 from...Juuannn!!!!
#doable!
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What was the time when we had 16? This is a turd sandwich.
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Lol and elite D at that!!!!!
You missed the drawn charge and forced travel. Gotta pay attention!
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The Chief is starting to shoot it like JJJ, down from the chest.
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just how I would haave drawn it up; Derrick dribbling until we need a bail out 3 from...Juuannn!!!!
Until that prayer, MU scored 6 points in last 12 minutes, which included a three by Duane and traditional 3 pt play by JJJ. Thats two baskets made in 12 minutes.
Derrick has zero points, had 1 against SH and 2 against Nova.
Thought Juan had best half of his season tonight, but can't do it by himself.
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You missed the drawn charge and forced travel. Gotta pay attention!
Some people do not understand basketball, they will never be satisfied.
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Considering how the wheels came off I'll take a 3-point deficit. Not having Carlino makes things tough. Need to make threes if Xavier is taking away passing lanes and the easy interior looks we saw early. Onus is on Sandy and Duane to extend the defense.
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Some people do not understand basketball, they will never be satisfied.
Yup.
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Some people do not understand basketball, they will never be satisfied.
Clearly
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What's in the glass tonight?
Just poured some Pendleton here.
Mrs. Legs recuprating from some surgery, and her MU roommate brought over some black bean soup with a nice kick (more for me than for Mrs. Legs-gotta love those MU friends!). A Pipeworks imperial stout is a perfect match.
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Considering how the wheels came off I'll take a 3-point deficit. Not having Carlino makes things tough. Need to make threes if Xavier is taking away passing lanes and the easy interior looks we saw early. Onus is on Sandy and Duane to extend the defense.
Du hit the three and walked the next time down, shooting and making it as the whistle blew. Hopefully he's feeling it this next half.
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Considering how the wheels came off I'll take a 3-point deficit. Not having Carlino makes things tough. Need to make threes if Xavier is taking away passing lanes and the easy interior looks we saw early. Onus is on Sandy and Duane to extend the defense.
Duane sitting with 2 fouls really hurt us on offense
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Du hit the three and walked the next time down, shooting and making it as the whistle blew. Hopefully he's feeling it this next half.
On Duane's missed three a bit after that he spent too much time with his hand in the air admiring the brick. It's not just the confidence to take the shot, but the confidence to go after the board on a bad miss.
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Duane sitting with 2 fouls really hurt us on offense
And as usual, Derrick will play the whole game...because,,,his stats deserve it. He also had two fouls, but did not sit. Hope he does not get into foul trouble. We will need his clang FT's at crunch time.
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Anderson has 9 pts (4/6 shooting) and 4 rebs at the half. You'd be fine with that?
Yes. It's a flip of a coin whether he's going to contribute or disappear or make bone head plays. Because he is so unreliable (and frankly, even a "good" game for him really is usually not a huge contribution) I would rather sandy take his minutes. Sandy might not always contribute as much, as today's game illustrates so far, but the gap is not so great that it outweighs getting the younger player more experience.
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Valid point, I think it's just too small of a sample size to know for sure how Wojo's huddles go. I'm sure it's just part of the coaching learning curve: how to come up with something in every single huddle. To Wojo's credit, he drew up a great in-bounds play that got Sandy a wide open look, just didn't knock it down.
True .. I think I've only heard 4-5 of these in-huddle bits .. but all of them have been fluff. Keep waiting for some coaching adjustment speak, but so far zip.
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The Chief is starting to shoot it like JJJ, down from the chest.
Must be contagious. He is a better shooter than JJJ, however. I believe that JJJ's 3 point shooting is worse than Derrick's. Now that is amazing.
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JJJ has very good instincts , his cut through to the three point play was a good example. Nice pass from Derrick.
JJJ plays with very good instincts. He comes off screens/curls generally VERY aggressively and it leads to good things. When he sees a crease, its full speed ahead, no hesitation. Would have liked to see him convert a couple more of the shots though including nice midrange pull up from elbow (reminiscent of Vander junior year.)
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Considering how the wheels came off I'll take a 3-point deficit. Not having Carlino makes things tough. Need to make threes if Xavier is taking away passing lanes and the easy interior looks we saw early. Onus is on Sandy and Duane to extend the defense.
Why doesn't that onus apply to Derrick? Just asking.
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And as usual, Derrick will play the whole game...because,,,his stats deserve it. He also had two fouls, but did not sit. Hope he does not get into foul trouble. We will need his clang FT's at crunch time.
That was a head scratcher. I know we only got 7 guys. But he had 2 fouls and was playing like ass and still wasn't pulled even for a minute
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Mrs. Legs recuprating from some surgery, and her MU roommate brought over some black bean soup with a nice kick (more for me than for Mrs. Legs-gotta love those MU friends!). A Pipeworks imperial stout is a perfect match.
Temptation small batch bourbon.
Obviously love the first 6 hate the last 14. But i think JjJ has 16 minutes (guess) so we're only 9 minutes until the winning run!!!!!
**yes, i want JjJ to totally realize his potential and will be ecstatic when he does. Really looking for the magic 25**
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And as usual, Derrick will play the whole game...because,,,his stats deserve it. He also had two fouls, but did not sit. Hope he does not get into foul trouble. We will need his clang FT's at crunch time.
We're his rebounds and assists "bad"?
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Du hit the three and walked the next time down, shooting and making it as the whistle blew. Hopefully he's feeling it this next half.
That was not a walk. His foot never moved--anticipation call by the ref. Is Burr in the house?
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jjj 2 for 8, missing wide open shots, a couple of wildd drives and one really nice drive; Sandy 0 for 3. Need both to step up.
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True .. I think I've only heard 4-5 of these in-huddle bits .. but all of them have been fluff. Keep waiting for some coaching adjustment speak, but so far zip.
And I would be willing to be that's exactly what the producers at FS1 want us to hear: all the fluff. I don't think the coaches would appreciate the network showing the plays they draw up, in-game adjustments, match-up switches, offensive and defensive playcalls, etc... I don't recall hearing anything that much different from Wojo compared to other coaches.
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Longing for November.
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Fire em up Wojo!
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We're his rebounds and assists "bad"?
Has the same amount as JJJ.
That was a head scratcher. I know we only got 7 guys. But he had 2 fouls and was playing like ass and still wasn't pulled even for a minute
He's earning his minutes - what don't you understand about that. He has 3 assists and 2 rebounds.
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Turn off the lights, the party's over.
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Has the same amount as JJJ.
So...should they play or be benched?
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Looks like the implosion is starting. Hope we can rally.
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Well that was a good start to the half. Especially for a team that can't put the ball in the basket.
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Actually amazing how outmatched we are talent wise. We have nobody with the confidence to hit those jab step/crossover jumpers that bluitt and Davis hit
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As expected. We are getting absolutely steamrolled now.
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Keep calm everyone.
We got this.
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No overtime tonite, or defense!
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And as usual, Derrick will play the whole game...because,,,his stats deserve it. He also had two fouls, but did not sit. Hope he does not get into foul trouble. We will need his clang FT's at crunch time.
Nope means he will need Duane by the end of the game willing to sacrifice Derrick
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Nice tech, Woj - 2 fouls called on X in 30 sec.
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I personally tuned into this game to watch the refs...
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Damn, Luke. You have to convert that!
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We are so limited.
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there we go
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Keep calm everyone.
We got this.
Chilli going above and beyond on the drinking tonight?
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sheesh. jjj giveth and he taketh away.
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Chilli going above and beyond on the drinking tonight?
Nope.
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Need to do a better job of finding Duane when he's unguarded for the corner three.
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Ners has polluted this board so much that every time JaJuan turns it over, I take a mental note that I can use as ammo in the JJJ/Derrick arguments.
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Yes. It's a flip of a coin whether he's going to contribute or disappear or make bone head plays. Because he is so unreliable (and frankly, even a "good" game for him really is usually not a huge contribution) I would rather sandy take his minutes. Sandy might not always contribute as much, as today's game illustrates so far, but the gap is not so great that it outweighs getting the younger player more experience.
This is not how coaches think. Wojo will coach to win THIS game. If he would sit Juan and give his minutes to Sandy, what message does that send to the rest of the team? That we're giving up on this season? I think a message of quitting has a much more detrimental effect to the program long-term than throwing Sandy a few extra minutes. With 8 guys (7 tonight) he's still going to get plenty of minutes to gain experience.
I prefer the message Wojo is sending by playing to win now, it says that as long as he's at Marquette they are going to fight tooth and nail every single night.
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I didn't know Val Ackerman was an old Harley dude
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Geez Val, comb your hair.
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So Micura's not a one trick pony, eh? Got a handle.
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Luke has missed several point blank opportunities this half. Missed shots, travels....
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JJJ Vs Everybody.....
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So Micura's not a one trick pony, eh? Got a handle.
Macura.
Yes, he can put it on the floor. All around guy - pass, drive, shoot from deep.. whatever you need. Good size at 6'5".
D1 Minnesota represent
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This is not how coaches think. Wojo will coach to win THIS game. If he would sit Juan and give his minutes to Sandy, what message does that send to the rest of the team? That we're giving up on this season? I think a message of quitting has a much more detrimental effect to the program long-term than throwing Sandy a few extra minutes. With 8 guys (7 tonight) he's still going to get plenty of minutes to gain experience.
I prefer the message Wojo is sending by playing to win now, it says that as long as he's at Marquette they are going to fight tooth and nail every single night.
Anyone that has observed these two players body of work knows that the gap in their levels of contribution (if any) is minimal. Certainly not enough of one that anyone would perceive it as "quitting."
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JJJ Vs Everybody.....
That was a nice finish!
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JJJ nice court awareness and transition basket with high degree of difficulty (1 on 4)
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i am not confident that we will score 40 pts in this game.
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In the last 19 minutes, MU had 2 points in second half(after 7 minutes) and made a total of 4 field goals. 4 field goals in 19 minutes. That is brutal.
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JJJ nice court awareness and transition basket with high degree of difficulty (1 on 4)
+1
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Can't even get the ball in play on a BOOB. Awful!
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Macura.
Yes, he can put it on the floor. All around guy - pass, drive, shoot from deep.. whatever you need. Good size at 6'5".
D1 Minnesota represent
He is feeling it now--whole game
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Looks like the MU PR machine got to the announcers about JJJ and Juan
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Juan playing a complete game.
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Rock Bottom
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Without Carlino, it would be tough to argue if someone said this is the least dangerous offense in Division I.
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Xavier freshmen kicking our ass
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Ners has polluted this board so much that every time JaJuan turns it over, I take a mental note that I can use as ammo in the JJJ/Derrick arguments.
What do you do when Derrick goes on his 5 minute bender of JV girls bball?
Sorry but you all are just as bad as ners. It's amazing these debates still go on. And pathetic you wait around for fuel.
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Looks like the MU PR machine got to the announcers about JJJ and Juan
Must have. That's how it works, you know!
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Major suckage.
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Never heard of JP Macura but the kid can pass, shoot, dribble and defend.. Sheesh, He's "The Goods"
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JP Macura is quite a talent.
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Derrick wouldn't start on UWM
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Announcer mentions "fatigue."
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I didn't know Val Ackerman was an old Harley dude
HAAAA. Thought the exact same thing!
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Never heard of Macura but the kid can pass, shoot, dribble and defend.. Sheesh...
Yep.
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Looks like the MU PR machine got to the announcers about JJJ and Juan
Except they are actually doing something on the floor to merit the praise. That's the difference.
Though I will say we looked pretty bad with Duane running the point for the last minute - between the bad inbounds pass. But then Steve Taylor throws the ball away out of a double team in the post that causes Duane to go scrambling after it.
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Never heard of Macura but the kid can pass, shoot, dribble and defend.. Sheesh...
Has exceptional court vision.
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In the first game, he sucked against us. Got yanked early.
Different player tonight.
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In the first game, he sucked against us. Got yanked early.
Different player tonight.
25+ minutes?
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So that's 15 pts. in how long?
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Anyone that has observed these two players body of work knows that the gap in their levels of contribution (if any) is minimal. Certainly not enough of one that anyone would perceive it as "quitting."
You don't think the players would notice if their senior leader was relegated to the bench? I guarantee Juan is one of the best practice players. What message does it send when you practice harder than everyone, yet see your minutes reduced when you're a senior? Might be tough to recruit, retain and develop players at a program like that.
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wow this is hard to watch....
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From last month.. before the first meeting...
Hi friends,
I want you to understand that Bluiett and Macura are two incredibly gifted offensive freshmen. Have logged many hours in gyms watching both of them - Bluiett not Mr. athleticism, but flat out scores. So gifted.
I think the line reflects the fact that Xavier is excellent offensively and can create big gaps in a score quickly.
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We have met the enemy and it is us. Hard to watch this team as the season winds down.
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Derrick is terrible. He literally offers nothing. It's a bummer to watch.
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You don't think the players would notice if their senior leader was relegated to the bench? I guarantee Juan is one of the best practice players. What message does it send when you practice harder than everyone, yet see your minutes reduced when you're a senior? Might be tough to recruit, retain and develop players at a program like that.
Nah. Top talent/potential should get the most minutes no matter what. Otherwise you get transfers.
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Derrick not only clangs FT's, he Kapow Bangs them.
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God almighty, I am definitely not a Derrick hater but those were two of the worst FT's in memory.
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It is amazing that we have assembled two of the worst 3-point shooters in college basketball on the same team. At least Derrick knows not to shoot. JuJuan has to try one every now and then due to Carlino being out, but he is as bad as they get.
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For the rest of the season how about no one else suggests we might be better off without Carlino.
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God almighty, I am definitely not a Derrick hater but those were two of the worst FT's in memory.
Tough to argue that.
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JJJ nice court awareness and transition basket with high degree of difficulty (1 on 4)
Great move and finish, but this is literally the definition of poor court awareness.
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So, is the no Carlino = team plays better at offense argument still valid?
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What do you do when Derrick goes on his 5 minute bender of JV girls bball?
Sorry but you all are just as bad as ners. It's amazing these debates still go on. And pathetic you wait around for fuel.
Derrick is certainly not the best basketball player either. Been very poor tonight.
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Derrick is terrible. He literally offers nothing. It's a bummer to watch.
Did you miss his turnaround jumper? That warranted 38 minutes in wojos eyes. His first free throw I think I caught glass in my eye.
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For the rest of the season how about no one else suggests we might be better off without Carlino.
Hahaha you just beat me to it!
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From last month.. before the first meeting...
;D ;D ;D
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Luke had 6 points in the first 4:50.
He still has 6 points, even though he has repeatedly gotten the ball in the paint.
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It is amazing that we have assembled two of the worst 3-point shooters in college basketball on the same team. At least Derrick knows not to shoot. JuJuan has to try one every now and then due to Carlino being out, but he is as bad as they get.
Whether it's Cheatham, Nick N or another recruit, someone who can shoot will play a lot next year in this Wojo offensive system. No choices now.
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So, is the no Carlino = team plays better at offense argument still valid?
Small sample size either way, aina?
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You don't think the players would notice if their senior leader was relegated to the bench? I guarantee Juan is one of the best practice players. What message does it send when you practice harder than everyone, yet see your minutes reduced when you're a senior? Might be tough to recruit, retain and develop players at a program like that.
I agree with your premise, but I have no idea if Juan is a better practice player than sandy. You seem to know, though, since you guarantee he is one of the best practice players. I don't have that kind of inside info to make such a claim.
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Whether it's Cheatham, Nick N or another recruit, someone who can shoot will play a lot next year in this Wojo offensive system. No choices now.
Which is why I would LOVE to have Carlino on NEXT year's team. Oh well.
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It is amazing that we have assembled two of the worst 3-point shooters in college basketball on the same team. At least Derrick knows not to shoot. JuJuan has to try one every now and then due to Carlino being out, but he is as bad as they get.
Yup.
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Great move and finish, but this is literally the definition of poor court awareness.
If only he waited for Derrick to dribble the air out of the ball
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This is brutal. I hope they show the Focus commercial so I can see Margot Robbie again.
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I don't believe that the MU cheerleaders are sincerely that happy right now
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We would have benefitted from having Deonte and Dawson in a game like this.
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If only he waited for Derrick to dribble the air out of the ball
I'm not a really a derrick defender. Just was a funny post. Praise the guy for court awareness after going 1 on 4
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Small sample size either way, aina?
Yea right!
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Juan!!
That was a walk on freshmen move.....
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Freshman guards Bluiett & Macura w/23 points on 67.6% eFG, 5:35 left in the game.
Chicos finds these data points... "interesting"
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Stainedpants make his Ft's. Gotta give him that.
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Ugh what is our FT% tonight?
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The effort is there. Defensively we are not bad despite being undersized. Our issue is just a complete lack of talent. Need next year's class to be as advertised.
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Ugh what is our FT% tonight?
A very hot 40% 4/10
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The effort is there. Defensively we are not bad despite being undersized. Our issue is just a complete lack of talent. Need next year's class to be as advertised.
7 top 100 players
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Ugh what is our FT% tonight?
While it's usually not 40% bad. It's always pretty bad. No Matt makes this more reasonable
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Derrick does need to sit and it's hard to figure out how he doesn't. Du is throwing the ball away, Luke doing nothing since the first minutes, and the rest of the team generally terrible.
Come back quickly Matt.
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A very hot 40% 4/10
Sounds about right. Guessing there are some missed front ends too. Yeesht.
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Freshman guards Bluiett & Macura w/23 points on 67.6% eFG, 5:35 left in the game.
Chicos finds these data points... "interesting"
I find the divorce rate at 38% much more interesting, but yes I find these interesting as well. Steve Taylor was great the other night. Tonight, non-existent. Sometimes guys step up, and sometimes they don't.
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7 top 100 players
Doesn't matter. Duane and Luke are the only two who have proven their ranking and they are both underclassmen. Just watch the games. We have no players as talented as Davis, Bluitt, macura
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I'd like everyone who argued that we were a better team without Carlino to please show yourself, and continue your argument here. WHERE ARE YOU NOW??? WHAT SAY YOU NOW?!?!?!?!
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Myles Davis is only 21??
That hairline looks more like 39......
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Luke had 6 points in the first 4:50.
He still has 6 points, even though he has repeatedly gotten the ball in the paint.
luke has been brutal after that nice start. suppose we could say the same for everyone. what a mess...
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Yeah let's bench Juan the guy diving on the floor giving max effort w two mins left in a blowout.
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I agree with your premise, but I have no idea if Juan is a better practice player than sandy. You seem to know, though, since you guarantee he is one of the best practice players. I don't have that kind of inside info to make such a claim.
I know he's more qualified to evaluate talent than I am, so if he's giving more minutes to Juan than Sandy, Juan must be performing better in games, practice, classroom, or whatever else Wojo asks of them.
My point is that I don't need to see practice to surmise that Juan is a better practice player. I trust that Wojo knows what he's doing. I believe he's sending the right message to these kids that when you play for Marquette, you NEVER give up whether it's in a game, a season, a job, life, you name it.
He's also sending the message that when you play for Wojo, he will NEVER give up on you. Remember - Sandy, Duane, et al. will become seniors eventually too. Don't you think they want to know that Wojo will have their back when their seniors just like he's had Juan's and Derrick's? If he just cast Derrick and Juan to the bench, don't you think they would wonder if the same could happen to them at the end of their careers in favor of the younger players?
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Juan played well all night.
The other 4 starters each had moments, but too many lapses.
The 2 subs were invisible.
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Bring on the twins!
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Love Duane standing up for Luke.
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I know he's more qualified to evaluate talent than I am, so if he's giving more minutes to Juan than Sandy, Juan must be performing better in games, practice, classroom, or whatever else Wojo asks of them.
My point is that I don't need to see practice to surmise that Juan is a better practice player. I trust that Wojo knows what he's doing. I believe he's sending the right message to these kids that when you play for Marquette, you NEVER give up whether it's in a game, a season, a job, life, you name it.
He's also sending the message that when you play for Wojo, he will NEVER give up on you. Remember - Sandy, Duane, et al. will become seniors eventually too. Don't you think they want to know that Wojo will have their back when their seniors just like he's had Juan's and Derrick's? If he just cast Derrick and Juan to the bench, don't you think they would wonder if the same could happen to them at the end of their careers in favor of the younger players?
Juan must be an all american in practice...
Way to go Duane stick up for your guys!
Bring on the Twins +2
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Liked seeing Duane get after Reynolds there. Good sign for his leadership, though in the future I hope he does it without contact.
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Love Duane standing up for Luke.
Yup, but bigman Taylor standing right there should have, well........
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Luke is exceptional at blocking shots
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Liked seeing Duane get after Reynolds there. Good sign for his leadership, though in the future I hope he does it without contact.
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Eh, not sure I would call that "contact." Sure, physical contact, but not baskeball scrum contact.
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Liked seeing Duane get after Reynolds there. Good sign for his leadership, though in the future I hope he does it without contact.
Yep. Could have T'd up Duane there too.
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Bring on the twins!
They didn't cheer hard enough
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Yup, but bigman Taylor standing right there should have, well........
Steve is only here so he doesn't get fined........
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I know he's more qualified to evaluate talent than I am, so if he's giving more minutes to Juan than Sandy, Juan must be performing better in games, practice, classroom, or whatever else Wojo asks of them.
My point is that I don't need to see practice to surmise that Juan is a better practice player. I trust that Wojo knows what he's doing. I believe he's sending the right message to these kids that when you play for Marquette, you NEVER give up whether it's in a game, a season, a job, life, you name it.
He's also sending the message that when you play for Wojo, he will NEVER give up on you. Remember - Sandy, Duane, et al. will become seniors eventually too. Don't you think they want to know that Wojo will have their back when their seniors just like he's had Juan's and Derrick's? If he just cast Derrick and Juan to the bench, don't you think they would wonder if the same could happen to them at the end of their careers in favor of the younger players?
One would hope. I don't think it's so clear cut. some underclassmen might take a different message from sticking with a player(s) that aren't winning and transfer. Juan hustles his butt off and I'm sure is a great kid and student. Same with Derrick.
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We might need to start a tracker: who scored more points in their last game, Henry or MU?
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What an ass kicking! And the beat goes on.
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Liked seeing Duane get after Reynolds there. Good sign for his leadership, though in the future I hope he does it without contact.
+1
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I don't mind the contact from Duane. Good move by him.
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I'd like everyone who argued that we were a better team without Carlino to please show yourself, and continue your argument here. WHERE ARE YOU NOW??? WHAT SAY YOU NOW?!?!?!?!
Really? Are you going to beat them up?
I believe the comments made were that people stepped up and played well the other day, they were aggressive, didn't just sit around and defer. I believe people also said whether that can be sustained was unknown and probably couldn't be....but good luck on your expedition.
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We might need to start a tracker: who scored more points in their last game, Henry or MU?
MU was outscored 59 to 28 in last 32 minutes.
Thought it was worst game played this year, almost everyone didn't play well.
Fischer was gassed after first 10 minutes
If SH didn't play its worst game this year, it would be 8 losses in a row.
Don't really know if they win another this year, just the hand Wojo was dealt.
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Juan must be an all american in practice...
Way to go Duane stick up for your guys!
Bring on the Twins +2
Ummm, Juan was our best player tonight.
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Luke has to learn to pass out of a double team and how to avoid the foot shuffling but his defense was good tonight.
Hard to stay in a game when at most you have three offensive threats on the floor.
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MU was outscored 59 to 28 in last 32 minutes.
Thought it was worst game played this year, almost everyone didn't play well.
Fischer was gassed after first 10 minutes
If SH didn't play its worst game this year, it would be 8 losses in a row.
Don't really know if they win another this year, just the hand Wojo was dealt himself
Wojo didn't have to go hard a$$ on Todd Mayo and run him off. Wojo also lost Burton and Dawson. No doubt this team could have used Burton's absolute talent and ability to score. Dawson could have contributed to this team too.
It is what it is. But if WOJO were a ticker symbol - I wouldn't be buying.
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Has Steve Taylor checked in yet? 0 points, 0 FGA.
Out rebounded by 11 at home. Not good.
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Ummm, Juan was our best player tonight.
5/7 Fg 1-1 3pt 2 asst 9 rbds 2 blks, 11 pts., 3 TO's (only bad stat). Yes he was our best player.
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Wojo didn't have to go hard a$$ on Todd Mayo and run him off. Wojo also lost Burton and Dawson. No doubt this team could have used Burton's absolute talent and ability to score. Dawson could have contributed to this team too.
It is what it is. But if WOJO were a ticker symbol - I wouldn't be buying.
What would Wojo have to accomplish in the next five years to change your mind?
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What would Wojo have to accomplish in the next five years to change your mind?
Hand over the coaching reins to Ners.
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Wojo didn't have to go hard a$$ on Todd Mayo and run him off. Wojo also lost Burton and Dawson. No doubt this team could have used Burton's absolute talent and ability to score. Dawson could have contributed to this team too.
It is what it is. But if WOJO were a ticker symbol - I wouldn't be buying.
Mayo basically ran himself off
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What would Wojo have to accomplish in the next five years to change your mind?
100 wins in his first 5 years on the job. Crean did it (inheriting a much worse situation). Buzz did it, and had an empty cupboard his second year on the job - could be argued more depleted than what this current Wojo team is. Particularly when you realize he lost a 4-star All Big East freshman after his first semester of sophomore year and a 3 star 1st semester sophomore. Meanwhile we scramble to sign 3 star players to fill our open 3 scholarships.
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Really? Are you going to beat them up?
I believe the comments made were that people stepped up and played well the other day, they were aggressive, didn't just sit around and defer. I believe people also said whether that can be sustained was unknown and probably couldn't be....but good luck on your expedition.
I don't disagree that people stepped up and played well the other day, they were aggressive, didn't just sit around and defer. Once again, we're not a better team without Carlino as some were arguing heavily.
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It is what it is. But if WOJO were a ticker symbol - I wouldn't be buying.
Hopefully you didn't buy JJJ when it ipo'd at $25 in November 2013 - you'd be down 90% by now.
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100 wins in his first 5 years on the job. Crean did it (inheriting a much worse situation). Buzz did it, and had an empty cupboard his second year on the job - could be argued more depleted than what this current Wojo team is. Particularly when you realize he lost a 4-star All Big East freshman after his first semester of sophomore year and a 3 star 1st semester sophomore. Meanwhile we scramble to sign 3 star players to fill our open 3 scholarships.
Really? A team with two future NBA 1st Round picks and a couple of sharp-shooting senior guards was a "more depleted" team than a team with one player who averaged more than 13.5 minutes and no one who averaged more than 7 ppg?
You truly believe that?
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Really? A team with two future NBA 1st Round picks and a couple of sharp-shooting senior guards was a "more depleted" team than a team with one player who averaged more than 13.5 minutes and no one who averaged more than 7 ppg?
You truly believe that?
Again, I look at what the roster was the day Wojo signed on the dotted line... Todd Mayo, Deonte Burton, John Dawson. Then he added Carlino...before he essentially kicked Todd off the team.
No, the team doesn't have an equal as to what Lazar was to that 2nd team of Buzz's. Yet, I believe Mayo/Carlino/Burton are very close to what Lazar/DJO/Jimmy comprised - with Jimmy being in his 2nd year of high major ball, and DJO his first. Carlino a 5 year guy, Mayo a 4 year guy, and Burton of course a sophomore.
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Again, I look at what the roster was the day Wojo signed on the dotted line... Todd Mayo, Deonte Burton, John Dawson. Then he added Carlino...before he essentially kicked Todd off the team.
No, the team doesn't have an equal as to what Lazar was to that 2nd team of Buzz's. Yet, I believe Mayo/Carlino/Burton are very close to what Lazar/DJO/Jimmy comprised - with Jimmy being in his 2nd year of high major ball, and DJO his first. Carlino a 5 year guy, Mayo a 4 year guy, and Burton of course a sophomore.
Buzz brought in DJO and Buycks that season so I wasn't even including them. That means the team had 4 future NBA players on the roster. Does MU even have any D-League players on the current roster?
You're entitled to your opinion, but I see no way that Mayo/Carlino/Burton would have come close to matching the Lazar/DJO/Jimmy line of 46-16.5-6 on 46.3% shooting and 41.4% from 3.
To each his own...
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Wojo didn't have to go hard a$$ on Todd Mayo and run him off. Wojo also lost Burton and Dawson. No doubt this team could have used Burton's absolute talent and ability to score. Dawson could have contributed to this team too.
It is what it is. But if WOJO were a ticker symbol - I wouldn't be buying.
If you have actual "inside" info, I might buy into your statements about Wojo and Mayo. But you've never said you have that. Other people have said they know exactly what happened this summer and they have repeatedly stated that the decision on whether Mayo stayed or left was not up to Wojo. But you keep placing it on Wojo over and over. Why?
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Here we go again.
Ners destroys another thread.
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Again, I look at what the roster was the day Wojo signed on the dotted line... Todd Mayo, Deonte Burton, John Dawson. Then he added Carlino...before he essentially kicked Todd off the team.
No, the team doesn't have an equal as to what Lazar was to that 2nd team of Buzz's. Yet, I believe Mayo/Carlino/Burton are very close to what Lazar/DJO/Jimmy comprised - with Jimmy being in his 2nd year of high major ball, and DJO his first. Carlino a 5 year guy, Mayo a 4 year guy, and Burton of course a sophomore.
Todd kicked himself off the team.
I believe that if Deonte's mother hadn't passed he would still be here. Even if that's not true, the decision to leave is on Burton. It's not Wojo's job to give players the minutes they think they deserve.
Dawson transferred to a Big South cellar dweller to find playing time. Enough said.
You really think that one guy who's coming off the bench in the D-League, one guy who may or may not end up in the league in three years, and another who will never sniff the NBA are equal to three guys who got drafted? One of whom is playing in the all star game next weekend? You must have really high hopes for Burton because DJO/Hayward >>>>>>> Mayo/Carlino. You must be expecting Burton to be twice as good as Jimmy Butler...the all star.
If I had to draft those six players you just listed I would draft them:
1. Jimmy
2. Lazar
3. DJO
4. Carlino
5. Burton
6. Mayo