Poll
Question:
Do you want Ners banned?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 161
Option 2: No
votes: 139
Figured I'd give the board their chance to speak as I've ruffled a lot of feathers here. I'll voluntarily go away if the majority of the board votes me off. (And I think it will be a close vote.)
Have fun with it Scoop.
Wow, you just don't get enough attention or what?
I voted no, but creating a poll about yourself almost swung me the other way.
Cmon Ners. Don't be a martyr.
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Hi, I'm an anonymous internet poster that is so cool that I'd like to create a poll about myself for other anonymous internet posters to participate in.
Is this really happening? Is he this dumb? Just when I thought the Internet hit rock bottom...
I voted "NO" because every one has a right to his or her opinion, but creating a poll about yourself is creepy.
Is there an option that just bans you from mentioning derrick and/or Dawson? Or perhaps puts a cap on how many posts you can do per day on the subject?
i voted yes, but not because it takes me 20 seconds to skim through the 5 page thread on the pg debate, but because you started a poll on yourself. even better that you gave a prediction on a close outcome. new poll...who strives for attention more, chicos or ners?
It was a sincere effort to give the board a chance to speak. There's been a LOT of frustration with my viewpoints here and I've read many times I'm making the board unreadable - and that is not my intent. I have no desire to "ruin" this board and if the majority feel I do - then I'll leave. (And probably get more work done in the process.)
This got weird.
No
Quote from: NersEllenson on November 20, 2014, 11:35:31 AM
It was a sincere effort to give the board a chance to speak. There's been a LOT of frustration with my viewpoints here and I've read many times I'm making the board unreadable - and that is not my intent. I have no desire to "ruin" this board and if the majority feel I do - then I'll leave. (And probably get more work done in the process.)
Another option would be to just stop repeatedly writing the repetitive repeats of the same repeated argument that is "ruining" the board and making it unreadable.
Question: What time do the polls close?
Superbar
Quote from: avid1010 on November 20, 2014, 11:35:12 AM
i voted yes, but not because it takes me 20 seconds to skim through the 5 page thread on the pg debate, but because you started a poll on yourself. even better that you gave a prediction on a close outcome. new poll...who strives for attention more, chicos or ners?
Agreed.
Ners has this incredible need for attention and validation. I generally don't want people banned, but this desperate plea for attention swung me the other way.
Quote from: NersEllenson on November 20, 2014, 11:35:31 AM
It was a sincere effort to give the board a chance to speak. There's been a LOT of frustration with my viewpoints here and I've read many times I'm making the board unreadable - and that is not my intent. I have no desire to "ruin" this board and if the majority feel I do - then I'll leave. (And probably get more work done in the process.)
Just to be clear, I don't think it's your viewpoint that creates frustration.
It's the constant attempts to share your viewpoint, and then the dismissal of any alternate viewpoints that creates friction.
You've used the term "adversaries" before. This doesn't have to be adversarial. It can be conversational.
I voted NO but your really need to stop being a pitbull with a ragdoll in its mouth on subjects
Quote from: buckchuckler on November 20, 2014, 11:25:08 AM
Wow, you just don't get enough attention or what?
+1. I came in here thinking I'd see it was started by a newer poster and I was going to suggest letting the mods decide who gets banned and who doesn't and that they can just put him on ignore if they'd like (although people quoting him negates that). The fact that Ners is the one who actually started this is...I think sad might be the best word to describe it. But there are a lot of words that could describe it. Pathetic might be the 2nd best.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on November 20, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
Another option would be to just stop repeatedly writing the repetitive repeats of the same repeated argument that is "ruining" the board and making it unreadable.
I voted No, but I agree 100% with Merritt. Before this whole subject came up, I thought he added a lot to the board and participated in some great discussions.
No, but how about a 5 post limit per day? Or maybe a self-imposed ban from talking about point guards for a month. I'll be your sponsor. One day at a time, man.
So your proposed solution to all the backlash you're receiving about your posts is to create a poll about whether or not you should be banned from Scoop? How about just stop posting about Derrick Wilson, or don't you have any control over your own posts?
No. But starting a poll about yourself almost changed my answer.
This board should allow for a free expression of ideas.
But, repeating the same idea/opinion over and over and over.......not so sure.
Nevertheless, I vote no.
Banned? Absolutely not. Dialed down a notch, sure
I agree with Freeport Warrior. Self impose the ban and stop posting on your own. You can do it.
The most self absorbed thing about this poll is not that Ners created a poll about himself, but the fact that he thinks he's potentially responsible for this board being unreadable. MUScoop was unreadable long before your recent thread hijacking.
Can the message board software just be configured to not post anything related to Derrick Wilson or Dawson by Ners?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on November 20, 2014, 12:07:39 PM
Can the message board software just be configured to not post anything related to Derrick Wilson or Dawson by Ners?
Can Ners be configured to not post anything related to Derrick Wilson or Dawson?
No.
Douche bag thread of the Millenium.
get off your high horse ners, no one cares
No, but your conduct and this inane thread is an example of how you are making this a worse community to discuss Marquette basketball. That should really contribute to you feeling a need to moderate yourself.
This thread is so preposterous that I almost have to respect it.
#donedeal
I voted yes.
The essence of this board is its free wheeling nature. This is nurtured by the mods, who trust us to be self moderating. They remind us of this from time to time.
Ners has no ability to self moderate. If this is a close vote, he will use it as vindication to go even further over the edge.
Quote from: MDMU04 on November 20, 2014, 12:35:14 PM
This thread is so preposterous that I almost have to respect it.
HAHAHA same.
I can freely admit I laughed out loud the moment I saw this thread..looked right...saw who started the thread...and saw the # of replies.
And the replies went basically how I could have imagined.
I often lurk but don't post too frequently. But I believe the few things I've said are balanced and so I'll add this: Ners is a total butt. Good riddance if he actually pays attention to the results of this retarded poll and leaves (not likely).
Really, jeans? Couldn't find a better word for this poll than that?
I voted "no." While I feel it is improper to campaign for others to vote the same, I thought I would provide a top ten list for reasons why to vote no.
10. The thing about extremes is that they always exist. Strip away the extremes, and someone inside moves closer to the outside. No Ners means Big Daddy just became a slight bit crazier. I can't live in that world.
9. Without the lunacy of Ners, this board might just become the Dodds board. While I appreciate the Dodds board as a nice vacation spot from time to time, the Mu Scoop fray is much more enticing.
8. The BMA smackdown of Ners loses its luster if Ners isn't around to argue about how it wasn't a smack down.
7. Ners is a perfect reminder of why "logic" should be taught throughout a person's schooling and not just rendered an elective in high school or college.
6. Feeling like you might be a little crazy? Read one of Ners' posts and you'll instantaneously be reminded of what crazy really is; a true barometer for craziness.
5. Without Ners, we might forget who John Dawson is. Seriously.
4. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words will never hurt us....unless they are written by Ners, the king of insults. A little trivia: In just his 4th post ever (as Ners, anyway), Ners wrote the following in a MU Scoop argument: "You come off pretty pompous and all-knowing, might want to re-evaluate your all-knowing attitude..." Whoa, baby. Genius from the beginning.
3. This poll is absolutely a reason to vote "no." Without Ners, gems such as this poll wouldn't be the property and province of MU Scoop. I, for one, am happy to be a member of a community that can boast that it has the most self-indulgent, ridiculous, popularity poll in the history of mankind.
2. Keep Austin weird; Keep Mu Scoop insane.
1. Ahh, F it. I am voting "yes."
PS. This list came out way less funny than it was originally envisioned in my mind. Honestly, it is pretty much comedic crap. Feel free to edit and revise as you all see fit.
Hoping a kid is injured and can't play? See ya
Quote from: MUCam on November 20, 2014, 01:03:55 PM
I voted "no." While I feel it is improper to campaign for others to vote the same, I thought I would provide a top ten list for reasons why to vote no.
10. The thing about extremes is that they always exist. Strip away the extremes, and someone inside moves closer to the outside. No Ners means Big Daddy just became a slight bit crazier. I can't live in that world.
9. Without the lunacy of Ners, this board might just become the Dodds board. While I appreciate the Dodds board as a nice vacation spot from time to time, the Mu Scoop fray is much more enticing.
8. The BMA smackdown of Ners loses its luster if Ners isn't around to argue about how it wasn't a smack down.
7. Ners is a perfect reminder of why "logic" should be taught throughout a person's schooling and not just rendered an elective in high school or college.
6. Feeling like you might be a little crazy? Read one of Ners' posts and you'll instantaneously be reminded of what crazy really is; a true barometer for craziness.
5. Without Ners, we might forget who John Dawson is. Seriously.
4. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words will never hurt us....unless they are written by Ners, the king of insults. A little trivia: In just his 4th post ever (as Ners, anyway), Ners wrote the following in a MU Scoop argument: "You come off pretty pompous and all-knowing, might want to re-evaluate your all-knowing attitude..." Whoa, baby. Genius from the beginning.
3. This poll is absolutely a reason to vote "no." Without Ners, gems such as this poll wouldn't be the property and province of MU Scoop. I, for one, am happy to be a member of a community that can boast that it has the most self-indulgent, ridiculous, popularity poll in the history of mankind.
2. Keep Austin weird; Keep Mu Scoop insane.
1. Ahh, F it. I am voting "yes."
PS. This list came out way less funny than it was originally envisioned in my mind. Honestly, it is pretty much comedic crap. Feel free to edit and revise as you all see fit.
No editing needed. You nailed it.
I voted Yes only because you created the poll for yourself.
"Enough about myself, what do you think of me?"
Sorry, MUfan12. I forgot that was an uncouth phrase to use nowadays (I say that sincerely). Gist of the post remains--dude detracts far more than he adds and probably has a personality disorder as starting this thread demonstrates.
This poll is more useless than Derrick Wilson
Little Murs
+1
Oh wait ... I thought it said "Should Ners be tanned?"
I thought it somehow was linking our resident ex-prep-hotshot/self-proclaimed-super-expert with our former coach.
Quote from: MUCam on November 20, 2014, 01:03:55 PM
I voted "no." While I feel it is improper to campaign for others to vote the same, I thought I would provide a top ten list for reasons why to vote no.
10. The thing about extremes is that they always exist. Strip away the extremes, and someone inside moves closer to the outside. No Ners means Big Daddy just became a slight bit crazier. I can't live in that world.
9. Without the lunacy of Ners, this board might just become the Dodds board. While I appreciate the Dodds board as a nice vacation spot from time to time, the Mu Scoop fray is much more enticing.
8. The BMA smackdown of Ners loses its luster if Ners isn't around to argue about how it wasn't a smack down.
7. Ners is a perfect reminder of why "logic" should be taught throughout a person's schooling and not just rendered an elective in high school or college.
6. Feeling like you might be a little crazy? Read one of Ners' posts and you'll instantaneously be reminded of what crazy really is; a true barometer for craziness.
5. Without Ners, we might forget who John Dawson is. Seriously.
4. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words will never hurt us....unless they are written by Ners, the king of insults. A little trivia: In just his 4th post ever (as Ners, anyway), Ners wrote the following in a MU Scoop argument: "You come off pretty pompous and all-knowing, might want to re-evaluate your all-knowing attitude..." Whoa, baby. Genius from the beginning.
3. This poll is absolutely a reason to vote "no." Without Ners, gems such as this poll wouldn't be the property and province of MU Scoop. I, for one, am happy to be a member of a community that can boast that it has the most self-indulgent, ridiculous, popularity poll in the history of mankind.
2. Keep Austin weird; Keep Mu Scoop insane.
1. Ahh, F it. I am voting "yes."
PS. This list came out way less funny than it was originally envisioned in my mind. Honestly, it is pretty much comedic crap. Feel free to edit and revise as you all see fit.
This is fantastic.
Ners brings more entertainment than the majority of you dolts combined. Without him, this forum would be as bland as generic oatmeal every morning for 15 years.
Of course ..... the entertainment value will double when the dark lord himself returns. Take Heed !!!!!!!!!
This user is making it difficult to be currently ignored.
Quote from: MUCam on November 20, 2014, 01:03:55 PM
I voted "no." While I feel it is improper to campaign for others to vote the same, I thought I would provide a top ten list for reasons why to vote no.
10. The thing about extremes is that they always exist. Strip away the extremes, and someone inside moves closer to the outside. No Ners means Big Daddy just became a slight bit crazier. I can't live in that world.
9. Without the lunacy of Ners, this board might just become the Dodds board. While I appreciate the Dodds board as a nice vacation spot from time to time, the Mu Scoop fray is much more enticing.
8. The BMA smackdown of Ners loses its luster if Ners isn't around to argue about how it wasn't a smack down.
7. Ners is a perfect reminder of why "logic" should be taught throughout a person's schooling and not just rendered an elective in high school or college.
6. Feeling like you might be a little crazy? Read one of Ners' posts and you'll instantaneously be reminded of what crazy really is; a true barometer for craziness.
5. Without Ners, we might forget who John Dawson is. Seriously.
4. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but words will never hurt us....unless they are written by Ners, the king of insults. A little trivia: In just his 4th post ever (as Ners, anyway), Ners wrote the following in a MU Scoop argument: "You come off pretty pompous and all-knowing, might want to re-evaluate your all-knowing attitude..." Whoa, baby. Genius from the beginning.
3. This poll is absolutely a reason to vote "no." Without Ners, gems such as this poll wouldn't be the property and province of MU Scoop. I, for one, am happy to be a member of a community that can boast that it has the most self-indulgent, ridiculous, popularity poll in the history of mankind.
2. Keep Austin weird; Keep Mu Scoop insane.
1. Ahh, F it. I am voting "yes."
PS. This list came out way less funny than it was originally envisioned in my mind. Honestly, it is pretty much comedic crap. Feel free to edit and revise as you all see fit.
This is awesome. +10000000.
I gladly voted yes Ners to be banned. Already blocked but because this thread was created - good riddance.
Quote from: barfolomew on November 20, 2014, 01:55:04 PM
This user is making it difficult to be currently ignored.
I completely agree!
If I vote yes, can you take Ellisium with you?
Can we cut off the voting now or does the poll run all season?
No
He is extremely annoying and wrong but at least he is a fan.
Chicos is far more destructive and negative towards the program, he should be the first one banned, every other mu site has.
Quote from: Fullodds on November 20, 2014, 01:11:34 PM
I voted Yes only because you created the poll for yourself.
"Enough about myself, what do you think of me?"
If most of you actually posted polls and voted in polls at a high level like Ners, then you would understand.
Ners has been around high level polls for a long time and he knows what high level polls look like. He even coached about the use of polls in poll camps. Hell he may even have posted polls in high school. So he has every right to post a poll about himself.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 20, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Ners brings more entertainment than the majority of you dolts combined. Without him, this forum would be as bland as generic oatmeal every morning for 15 years.
Of course ..... the entertainment value will double when the dark lord himself returns. Take Heed !!!!!!!!!
Ahh, but The Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy has already arrived!
(https://dailyhumorpix.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/vlcsnap-2010-10-19-03h43m36s219.jpg?w=320&h=240)
Post, post, post,
Ellisium! I, The Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy,
command it!
Who is Ners?
Hell of a race!!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 20, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
Banned? Absolutely not. Dialed down a notch, sure
I change my vote.
Ners should be banned. Not permenately. But given the two week vacation (also known as the Keefe politics special ;D). I changed my vote after reading a recent thread in which a mod warned Ners about going on and on about Derrick/Dawson. Ners responded by quoting the mod, saying he felt his comments were valid, and proceeded to go on and on about Derrick/Dawson. He has been warned by Mods several times about this issue and has ignored the warnings. That warrants a small vacation IMHO. That of course is up to the all powerful Mods, keepers of the legendary banhammer.
Ners brings good insight and opinions to the board. Its how he delivers them that I think most take issue with.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 20, 2014, 02:36:20 PM
I change my vote.
Ners should be banned. Not permenately. But given the two week vacation (also known as the Keefe politics special ;D). I changed my vote after reading a recent thread in which a mod warned Ners about going on and on about Derrick/Dawson. Ners responded by quoting the mod, saying he felt his comments were valid, and proceeded to go on and on about Derrick/Dawson. He has been warned by Mods several times about this issue and has ignored the warnings. That warrants a small vacation IMHO. That of course is up to the all powerful Mods, keepers of the legendary banhammer.
Ners brings good insight and opinions to the board. Its how he delivers them that I think most take issue with.
"How he delivers them", or how often?
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 20, 2014, 02:36:20 PM
Ners brings good insight and opinions to the board. Its how he delivers them that I think most take issue with.
I have no problem with his opinions, and I can usually accept the way he expresses them. The part that's getting most tiresome for me - expressed very well yesterday by FreeportWarrior - is his childish refusal to take his lumps and admit when he is wrong...or at the very least, just let it go.
Last year Buzz didn't get it. This year Wojo doesn't get it. But Ners once played basketball and now enjoys hot yoga, so he sees things our coaches don't.
We all be Americans, aina? Let freedom ring, y'all.
I voted No. Ners is a key "character" in the MUScoop narrative. Without Ners, the story just won't be the same.
Who even thinks to create a poll about themselves, let alone post it. We need that special brand of loony. Plus Ners has to do more than shill soft serve frozen yogurt in the tundra, live in a hi rise, and practice bikram Yoga.
Quote from: leever on November 20, 2014, 11:59:13 AM
This board should allow for a free expression of ideas.
But, repeating the same idea/opinion over and over and over.......not so sure.
Nevertheless, I vote no.
If you do not want to listen/read the repeated BS, vote yes. Then he said he would go away.
Quote from: NersEllenson on November 20, 2014, 11:35:31 AM
It was a sincere effort to give the board a chance to speak. There's been a LOT of frustration with my viewpoints here and I've read many times I'm making the board unreadable - and that is not my intent. I have no desire to "ruin" this board and if the majority feel I do - then I'll leave. (And probably get more work done in the process.)
Get over yourself. Just quit making
E V E R Y thread about Derek vs. John.
If you can't do that, you should leave voluntarily.
Quote from: MuMark on November 20, 2014, 02:06:08 PM
Can we cut off the voting now or does the poll run all season?
Just until Dawson gets the starting nod.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on November 20, 2014, 02:55:19 PM
I voted No. Ners is a key "character" in the MUScoop narrative. Without Ners, the story just won't be the same.
Who even thinks to create a poll about themselves, let alone post it. We need that special brand of loony. Plus Ners has to do more than shill soft serve frozen yogurt in the tundra, live in a hi rise, and practice bikram Yoga.
And day trade, don't forget the high risk day trading.
Maybe we should do scoop survivor where we vote someone off each week!
I haven't voted personally but I did receive two additional votes through my contact in Milwaukee:
Absolutely Yes:
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Hell No:
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Quote from: willie warrior on November 20, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
If you do not want to listen/read the repeated BS, vote yes. Then he said he would go away.
So... any chance that you'll be starting a self ban thread in the future?
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 20, 2014, 03:19:33 PM
So... any chance that you'll be starting a self ban thread in the future?
+1
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 20, 2014, 03:19:33 PM
So... any chance that you'll be starting a self ban thread in the future?
well played...very, very, very well played.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 20, 2014, 02:47:58 PM
But Ners once played basketball and now enjoys hot yoga, so he sees things our coaches don't.
For the hot yoga alone, Ners should stay. Do you know how much tail is in hot yoga? (sorry if the language offends you, Chick).
Don't post often obviously but really enjoy reading contrasting opinions except the usual couple folks I have on ignore. Every once in a while I will bring them back on board just to verify the reasons I have them on ignore in the first place. Then I am reminded of the famous Einstein quote on insanity about "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." That is how I feel about any thread that Ners is actively participating in. Tied for first place is you know who.
I voted to ban - Pete Rose lifetime ban if it is available.
I enjoy Ners perspectives on MU basketball.My only advice is that he may want to change his focus. It is more healthy when you eat a balanced diet.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 20, 2014, 02:36:20 PM
I change my vote.
Ners should be banned. Not permenately. But given the two week vacation (also known as the Keefe politics special ;D). I changed my vote after reading a recent thread in which a mod warned Ners about going on and on about Derrick/Dawson. Ners responded by quoting the mod, saying he felt his comments were valid, and proceeded to go on and on about Derrick/Dawson. He has been warned by Mods several times about this issue and has ignored the warnings. That warrants a small vacation IMHO. That of course is up to the all powerful Mods, keepers of the legendary banhammer.
Ners brings good insight and opinions to the board. Its how he delivers them that I think most take issue with.
If the poll is "yes" it shouldn't be a lifetime ban. Just until 1/1/2015.
Ners does love Marquette and the program. That counts for something.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on November 20, 2014, 03:44:00 PM
If the poll is "yes" it shouldn't be a lifetime ban. Just until 1/1/2015.
Ners does love Marquette and the program. That counts for something.
January first? I'm thinking till the seasons over.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 20, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
January first? I'm thinking till the seasons over.
If the "Yes" votes have it, a second vote over length of suspension should be held. Kind of like sentencing in criminal court.
Maybe play a game of 1 on 1, and loser gets banned?
OR the ban can just be in place until John Dawson plays over 25min. in 1 game.
OR maybe the ban is in place as long as Derrick has more points that Dawson (season totals).
maybe Ners should play Dawson 1 on 1 and if he beats Magic he leaves
Quote from: NersEllenson on November 20, 2014, 11:21:46 AM
Figured I'd give the board their chance to speak as I've ruffled a lot of feathers here. I'll voluntarily go away if the majority of the board votes me off. (And I think it will be a close vote.)
Have fun with it Scoop.
Scoop has 7725 members so we only need 3863 votes for the ban? How many times can I vote?
Can we put this in the SuperBar? I'm sick of looking at it.
Is it Saturday yet? This is pathetic.
This is getting unseemly with a hint of mob mentality. Let the mods handle the bans. Ners is fine. All should be welcome.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 20, 2014, 04:26:37 PM
This is getting unseemly with a hint of mob mentality. Let the mods handle the bans. Ners is fine. All should be welcome.
Normally, I would agree, but in this specific scenario, he asked a question, and wanted an answer.
Quote from: Avenue Commons on November 20, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
If the "Yes" votes have it, a second vote over length of suspension should be held. Kind of like sentencing in criminal court.
But the choices shouldn't be in terms of weeks or months...they should be in terms of behavior when he returns.
Personally, I'd be happy having him back when he can refrain from turning nearly every thread into: 1. Derrick bashing, 2. Comments about the untapped greatness at the end of our bench, or 3. A Ners appreciation thread. If we had to put that into a timeframe, I'd take the over.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 20, 2014, 04:26:37 PM
This is getting unseemly with a hint of mob mentality. Let the mods handle the bans. Ners is fine. All should be welcome.
Au contraire. Do you think I like cleaning the ban hammer? No.
Do people actually believe that if Ners didn't post on the Dawson/Derrick debate he'd suddenly become bearable? It's his way of getting all the attention on him. He knows that Derrick is the better player at this point, but he bought into him based on a performance against a no-name team so he can't back down now. He has to remind us all that he once played basketball in high school and knows more than guys who get paid millions of dollars to make the same decisions for their profession are clueless when it comes to evaluating talent compared to Ners. Again, the guy played freaking high school basketball! Wojo certainly doesn't have those credentials!
If there were no John Dawson and no Derrick Wilson in this world he'd be reminding us he has a great basketball mind in any other way possible. Heck, if everyone all of a sudden started crying for Dawson to get Derrick's minutes Ners would suddenly tell us why Derrick is the best player on Marquette and is the second coming of Lenny Wilkens.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on November 20, 2014, 05:37:09 PM
cleaning the ban hammer?
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
I bring word from the Dark Lord that he isn't happy about the Ners, potential ban. He feels that many of the posters against him, don't bring much entertainment value themselves. It's a classic case of groupthink. Those with boring conversation, huddle together, feeling the camaraderie. Instead, what they're doing is trying to eliminate a voice that is different. Oooooooh........ I'm scared of different !!! I don't know what to do or how to acknowledge different because my life is boring !!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! Let's ban him so I can go back to my normal white bread life.
Ners will not be banned. The Dark Lord hath put a plan in motion. He is disgusted that many of you would turn against your brethren.
UNITY shall prevail, not this petty divide and conquer mantra. You are weak like Juan Andersen in the paint.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 20, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
I bring word from the Dark Lord that he isn't happy about the Ners, potential ban. He feels that many of the posters against him, don't bring much entertainment value themselves. It's a classic case of groupthink. Those with boring conversation, huddle together, feeling the camaraderie. Instead, what they're doing is trying to eliminate a voice that is different. Oooooooh........ I'm scared of different !!! I don't know what to do or how to acknowledge different because my life is boring !!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! Let's ban him so I can go back to my normal white bread life.
Ners will not be banned. The Dark Lord hath put a plan in motion. He is disgusted that many of you would turn against your brethren.
UNITY shall prevail, not this petty divide and conquer mantra. You are weak like Juan Andersen in the paint.
I think you were looking for the Game of thrones blog
http://www.thronesblog.com
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 20, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
January first? I'm thinking till the seasons over.
It'll be over by then. (Unless Dawson plays 40/game.)
Quote from: Ellisium on November 20, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
I bring word from the Dark Lord that he isn't happy about the Ners, potential ban. He feels that many of the posters against him, don't bring much entertainment value themselves. It's a classic case of groupthink. Those with boring conversation, huddle together, feeling the camaraderie. Instead, what they're doing is trying to eliminate a voice that is different. Oooooooh........ I'm scared of different !!! I don't know what to do or how to acknowledge different because my life is boring !!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! Let's ban him so I can go back to my normal white bread life.
Ners will not be banned. The Dark Lord hath put a plan in motion. He is disgusted that many of you would turn against your brethren.
UNITY shall prevail, not this petty divide and conquer mantra. You are weak like Juan Andersen in the paint.
Thanks Ners.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 20, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
I bring word from the Dark Lord that he isn't happy about the Ners, potential ban. He feels that many of the posters against him, don't bring much entertainment value themselves. It's a classic case of groupthink. Those with boring conversation, huddle together, feeling the camaraderie. Instead, what they're doing is trying to eliminate a voice that is different. Oooooooh........ I'm scared of different !!! I don't know what to do or how to acknowledge different because my life is boring !!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! Let's ban him so I can go back to my normal white bread life.
Ners will not be banned. The Dark Lord hath put a plan in motion. He is disgusted that many of you would turn against your brethren.
UNITY shall prevail, not this petty divide and conquer mantra. You are weak like Juan Andersen in the paint.
This is actually getting really weird, and the misspelling of Juan's name on purpose is really starting to tick me off.
I'll vote yes if the small cluster of posters that constantly engage him on the endless, pitiful Derrick v. John crapfest go with him.
Quote from: Chip Chipman on November 20, 2014, 07:09:40 PM
I'll vote yes if the small cluster of posters that constantly engage him on the endless, pitiful Derrick v. John crapfest go with him.
No chance. I aint leaving.
I voted no. However, my hope is by doing this poll you realize you should change your posts.
Waited all day for this.
Reply 100!!!
Quote from: bilsu on November 20, 2014, 07:44:48 PM
I voted no. However, my hope is by doing this poll you realize you should change your posts.
That, or see a psychiatrist.
I think we nned a poll on whether Nebraska-Omaha is EVIL and must be DESTROYED.
Eff this thread. Let's get back to business!!!!
I don't think Ners should leave. There are certain posters whose relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick probably provoke Ners into setting the record straight. These same posters continually "poke the bear," then complain we he brings up his points. It takes two to tango. The same goes for everybody who whines about Chicos.
Hmm .. could this turn into a 128 page thread and beat 2012's record?
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31777
Quote from: MrSquido50 on November 20, 2014, 03:33:17 PM
Don't post often obviously but really enjoy reading contrasting opinions except the usual couple folks I have on ignore. Every once in a while I will bring them back on board just to verify the reasons I have them on ignore in the first place. Then I am reminded of the famous Einstein quote on insanity about "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." That is how I feel about any thread that Ners is actively participating in. Tied for first place is you know who.
I voted to ban - Pete Rose lifetime ban if it is available.
Solid post Squido. Been there.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 20, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
I don't think Ners should leave. There are certain posters whose relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick probably provoke Ners into setting the record straight. These same posters continually "poke the bear," then complain we he brings up his points. It takes two to tango. The same goes for everybody who whines about Chicos.
I vote a resounding "no." As frustrated as I am that discussions always seem to devolve into a "Derrick sucks/he's the best we have," I value Ners' opinion and devotion.
I still can't recall ANYONE that offers "relentless unwarranted praise of Derrick." If they are out there, they should be the ones banned, unless they are speaking about his character, which I don't recall Ners ever questioning.
And starting your own poll does seem a little needy.
I voted yes not because I necessarily think he should be banned but because it will be very funny when he is "voted out" and absolutely nothing changes.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 20, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
I don't think Ners should leave. There are certain posters whose relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick probably provoke Ners into setting the record straight. These same posters continually "poke the bear," then complain we he brings up his points. It takes two to tango. The same goes for everybody who whines about Chicos.
All sorts of wrong here. No one goes out of their way to start threads talking about the "relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick." If you'll notice though, Ners created 2 threads just in the last few days, this one and the "interesting quotes" thread. So, who is the one provoking? Who is the one constantly bringing stuff up?
He'll leave like Hess left. This site's addictin', hey?
I like Ners and voted no, but am having second thoughts.
Why in all hell with two games into the season are we making posts about Derrick Wilson who's averaging only 16 minutes/game? While the PG play of last year was subpar, it has no bearing on this season and after watching both games I can definitively say that adding or subtracting Derrick's minutes wouldn't have changed the outcome in either game.
Come on Ners you're losing even those who have stood up for both you and your positions.
I like the suggestion that he be banned to only 5 posts per day. Then he'll really have to think hard about what he's going to say before he says it. That'll save the rest of us hours per week reading all of the retorts.
I voted, but wish I had read all these posts before I did. Well done Board. My question is, WWBDD....What Would Big Daddy Do?
Quote from: GurneeHitchkr on November 20, 2014, 09:16:55 PM
I like the suggestion that he be banned to only 5 posts per day. Then he'll really have to think hard about what he's going to say before he says it. That'll save the rest of us hours per week reading all of the retorts.
You read 'em?
Complete rookie here/long time lurker so cast this off as you feel fit. IMO..it's America and the internet so everyone is free to express their own opinion. I voted 'no'.
However, if i could be so bold as to provide a personal allegory.... Not long ago the wife and I were at a party where we were not meshing at all with the other guests. Political and religious opinions (probably aided by vodka) were causing differing points of view to turn into uncomfortable conversations. We decided to leave via Irish goodbye but not wanting to waste a babysitter decided to try a restaurant we hadn't been to. We went on to have a fabulous night and heard from many friends that the party was equally great. The lesson is that most times everyone is happy when people are honest with themselves and do what they know is right and most times the Irish goodbye works for everyone.
To be fair, he makes alot of decent points regarding Buzz and Derrick. However I still hate him for the way he attacked people who didn't play basketball in highschool.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 20, 2014, 01:51:37 PM
Ners brings more entertainment than the majority of you dolts combined. Without him, this forum would be as bland as generic oatmeal every morning for 15 years.
Of course ..... the entertainment value will double when the dark lord himself returns. Take Heed !!!!!!!!!
No to banning Ners and yes to the return of the One with Dark Glasses!
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Quote from: GurneeHitchkr on November 20, 2014, 09:16:55 PM
I like the suggestion that he be banned to only 5 posts per day. Then he'll really have to think hard about what he's going to say before he says it. That'll save the rest of us hours per week reading all of the retorts.
Yeah--the thought police are always good to have around, right...right? That is surely the direction we should all take.
Ners is the Derrick Wilson of posters... he's getting pt whether you like it or not
Quote from: WarriorFan on November 21, 2014, 06:52:08 AM
Ners is the Derrick Wilson of posters... he's getting pt whether you like it or not
LOL :D Post of the week!
The topic isn't "Should Ners be banned" since he posted it himself.
It's "Should I (Ners) go away."
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 20, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
There are certain posters whose relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick
I'd be curious to see an example or two of these relentless-praise-of-Derrick posts
One thing is clear: Ners should be banned from posting polls, especially about himself.
NO Right or Wrong I like his passion.
Quote from: TSmith34 on November 21, 2014, 08:36:16 AM
I'd be curious to see an example or two of these relentless-praise-of-Derrick posts
Easy--just go back to most of Sultan's and you will find plenty--usually through inference by his non-stop defense of the Buzzster last year.
Quote from: tower912 on November 20, 2014, 06:06:03 PM
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
Ok this is funny. Makes this whole disaster of a thread worth it.
Ners' Napoleon complex plays out in many ways. He may be banished, but you know goddamn well he will return.
Quote from: Loose Ellenson Cannon on November 21, 2014, 08:51:44 AM
NO Right or Wrong I like his passion.
No issue with his stance or his passion. He is using up the cloud with his millions of posts in support of Magic Dawson.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 08:52:28 AM
Easy--just go back to most of Sultan's and you will find plenty--usually through inference by his non-stop defense of the Buzzster last year.
Nope. That's not true. Don't invent stuff, Willie. It's not a good look.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on November 21, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
Nope. That's not true. Don't invent stuff, Willie. It's not a good look.
Another Buzz Slurper I guess.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 08:52:28 AM
Easy--just go back to most of Sultan's and you will find plenty--usually through inference by his non-stop defense of the Buzzster last year.
Sultan has done quite a good job getting under your skin.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on November 21, 2014, 09:28:44 AM
Nope. That's not true. Don't invent stuff, Willie. It's not a good look.
Oh bet it is true. How we disagree. Once again, Watson, you see but you do not observe.
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 21, 2014, 09:41:20 AM
Sultan has done quite a good job getting under your skin.
More like under my foot. Meanwhile, I may be a burr in his shorts.
So Ners....we have 260 votes...54% to 46% you go... When does this take effect?
Also, I don't think you should be banned by the mods. But I do think you should voluntarily go away.
I think it is completely awesome that you are so obsessed with me willie. Seriously, I really never think of you when putting a Scoop thought together, but every other post of yours seems to refer to me.
Now run along...it's almost lunchtime.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 08:52:28 AM
Easy--just go back to most of Sultan's and you will find plenty--usually through inference by his non-stop defense of the Buzzster last year.
I can't find any. Perhaps you could point one out.
Quote from: ChitownJuan on November 20, 2014, 07:02:55 PM
This is actually getting really weird, and the misspelling of Juan's name on purpose is really starting to tick me off.
your last name is Anderson isn't it?
Quote from: Bleuteaux on November 21, 2014, 09:23:43 AM
Ners' Napoleon complex plays out in many ways. He may be banished, but you know goddamn well he will return.
Check yourself kid. He's 6'1" and he played high school basketball, damnit. He'll even play you in 1-on-1 to put you in your place! He can still dunk! Nothing short about him, especially in the pants!
Quote from: Bleuteaux on November 21, 2014, 10:07:02 AM
So Ners....we have 260 votes...54% to 46% you go... When does this take effect?
Also, I don't think you should be banned by the mods. But I do think you should voluntarily go away.
Never.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on November 21, 2014, 09:23:43 AM
Ners' Napoleon complex plays out in many ways. He may be banished, but you know goddamn well he will return.
The mods could simply ban hammer him every time he makes another Derrick v. Dawson post, but I understand that would be a significant effort on their part. Still, an enforced 5 day vacation every time and he'd learn, eventually.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 10:03:59 AM
Meanwhile, I may be a burr in his shorts.
This is creepier than Ners posting his own poll
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 10:03:59 AM
More like under my foot. Meanwhile, I may be a burr in his shorts.
Willie's thinking is:
"not that there's anything wrong with it!"
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 09:58:10 AM
Oh bet it is true. How we disagree. Once again, Watson, you see but you do not observe.
I'm totally willing to admit that I'm wrong.
Show me a post where Sultan (or anybody for that matter) has praised Derrick Wilson.
Ironically, the closest thing we have is probably something from NERS last year comparing Derrick to Aaron Craft.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on November 21, 2014, 10:40:11 AM
I'm totally willing to admit that I'm wrong.
Show me a post where Sultan (or anybody for that matter) has praised Derrick Wilson.
Ironically, the closest thing we have is probably something from NERS last year comparing Derrick to Aaron Craft.
Not going there--do your research. Just check out Sultan's posts.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
Not going there--do your research. Just check out Sultan's posts.
I have, that's the point. It's not a matter of opinion. You're factually incorrect.
If you have some sort of "secret facts" that I'm unaware of, feel free to share.
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on November 21, 2014, 11:19:19 AM
I have, that's the point. It's not a matter of opinion. You're factually incorrect.
If you have some sort of "secret facts" that I'm unaware of, feel free to share.
You see Watson, but you do not observe.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 11:24:29 AM
You see Watson, but you do not observe.
You type willie, but you do not inform.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 21, 2014, 11:16:31 AM
Not going there--do your research. Just check out Sultan's posts.
So you got nothing. Ok.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 20, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
I don't think Ners should leave. There are certain posters whose relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick probably provoke Ners into setting the record straight. These same posters continually "poke the bear," then complain we he brings up his points. It takes two to tango. The same goes for everybody who whines about Chicos.
I support Derrick, simply because Ners is relentlessly attacking him. Derrick has always given 100%. He is not a great player, but he is a great teammate and does not deserve to relentlessly attacked. The criticism should have been on Buzz for not recruiting a better point guard. It is quite obvious this season that Dawson is not a better point guard than Derrick.
Question for Ners.
What does Ners mean, stand for? If you're not comfortable divulging, how do you pronounce it? N'ers or ners?
I'll hang up and listen to your answer, love the show!
Ners is a dork
Quote from: The Lens on November 21, 2014, 12:41:41 PM
Question for Ners.
What does Ners mean, stand for? If you're not comfortable divulging, how do you pronounce it? N'ers or ners?
I'll hang up and listen to your answer, love the show!
If I'm not mistaken there was a post last year of the real life Ners having something to do with owning a yogurt chain. I believe 'Ners' is derived from a portion of his name. I'm not certain but I think you can search for it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: mattyv1908 on November 21, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken there was a post last year of the real life Ners having something to do with owning a yogurt chain. I believe 'Ners' is derived from a portion of his name. I'm not certain but I think you can search for it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Menchie's or Red Mango?
Based on the vote:
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Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 20, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
I don't think Ners should leave. There are certain posters whose relentless, unwarranted praise of Derrick probably provoke Ners into setting the record straight. These same posters continually "poke the bear," then complain we he brings up his points. It takes two to tango. The same goes for everybody who whines about Chicos.
Wholeheartedly agree.
Ners hijacks basketball threads with basketball opinion. I get tired of it, but the heart is in the right place.
I'll take Ners over the half dozen or so Chicos trolls, who hijack basketball threads to spew personal animus. While some of them may have been slighted at some point, how long should a grudge be held? They need to take a break, IMHO, and reconsider what made them originally choose to become part of the Marquette Family.
Quote from: Schmidtyfactor on November 21, 2014, 02:47:57 PM
Based on the vote:
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-10 pts.
This animated gif can only be used for the hiring of a new coach or the recruitment of a 4 or 5 star recruit. This is the equivalent of taking a 3 point shot when you're up 30, with 2 minutes to go.
Quote from: Archies Bat on November 21, 2014, 04:52:53 PM
Wholeheartedly agree.
Ners hijacks basketball threads with basketball opinion. I get tired of it, but the heart is in the right place.
I'll take Ners over the half dozen or so Chicos trolls, who hijack basketball threads to spew personal animus. While some of them may have been slighted at some point, how long should a grudge be held? They need to take a break, IMHO, and reconsider what made them originally choose to become part of the Marquette Family.
Just to set the record straight: I attack Chicos because he lied about me calling his wife a liar on this board. He has repeated the lie often.
That's it. I was never slighted nor do I hold a grudge. It is simply based on what he said and continues to say.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 20, 2014, 06:12:09 PM
I bring word from the Dark Lord that he isn't happy about the Ners, potential ban. He feels that many of the posters against him, don't bring much entertainment value themselves. It's a classic case of groupthink. Those with boring conversation, huddle together, feeling the camaraderie. Instead, what they're doing is trying to eliminate a voice that is different. Oooooooh........ I'm scared of different !!! I don't know what to do or how to acknowledge different because my life is boring !!! Ahhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! Let's ban him so I can go back to my normal white bread life.
Ners will not be banned. The Dark Lord hath put a plan in motion. He is disgusted that many of you would turn against your brethren.
UNITY shall prevail, not this petty divide and conquer mantra. You are weak like Juan Andersen in the paint.
And I thought I posted too often. By the end of the night you'll be averaging over 20 a day. I'm at under 1.5. You have returned and not missed a beat.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2014, 05:50:36 PM
And I thought I posted too often. By the end of the night you'll be averaging over 20 a day. I'm at under 1.5. You have returned and not missed a beat.
You speaketh of the Dark Lord. He shall arrive soon. I .... am but a messenger.
Dark Lorde
Quote from: warriorstrack on November 21, 2014, 06:03:34 PM
Dark Lorde
That was a pretty funny episode. Loved the Black Friday episode last year. I was in tears. Do you know if they're making another one this year?
Quote from: Canned Goods n Ammo on November 21, 2014, 10:40:11 AM
I'm totally willing to admit that I'm wrong.
Show me a post where Sultan (or anybody for that matter) has praised Derrick Wilson.
Ironically, the closest thing we have is probably something from NERS last year comparing Derrick to Aaron Craft.
You can't be serious. He was praised relentlessly last year by numerous posters.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 21, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
You can't be serious. He was praised relentlessly last year by numerous posters.
Honestly, I did take a break from MU Scoop for a position of last season.
Did I just miss the "numerous posters" and the "relentless praise" portion of the season?
Help me out, guys.
I haven't posted in a long long time.
There are so many things about MU basketball that could/should be discussed, but those threads are few and far between.
Making things worse, when there is actually the start to a good thread, it is quickly hijacked by the usual suspects and devolves into total garbage....usually completely off-topic......usually a pissing match.
For this reason, I voted "yes" to a voluntary ban.
I propose anyone who has been banned, be exiled to Rivals island. Maybe Scoop would be readable again.
How about a Scoop Survivor game?
Every month annoying posters get placed on the chopping block. The one with the most votes gets exiled to Rivals Island. Every 6 months one exiled poster can get voted back to Scoop.
Jeff Probst will host
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on November 21, 2014, 06:25:34 PM
How about a Scoop Survivor game?
Every month annoying posters get placed on the chopping block. The one with the most votes gets exiled to Rivals Island. Every 6 months one exiled poster can get voted back to Scoop.
Jeff Probst will host
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 20, 2014, 03:09:04 PM
Maybe we should do scoop survivor where we vote someone off each week!
Ahem nobody likes a copycat! Jk I'm sure you weren't.
Quote from: DomJamesToTheBasket on November 21, 2014, 06:25:34 PM
How about a Scoop Survivor game?
Every month annoying posters get placed on the chopping block. The one with the most votes gets exiled to Rivals Island. Every 6 months one exiled poster can get voted back to Scoop.
Jeff Probst will host
Why don't we just have an MUScoop pick up game and the losers buy the winners dinner and drinks. It'd be a great bonding experience and would definitely make this place more interesting. We could get MUTV to record it and post it on here for all of those who cannot attend.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 21, 2014, 06:30:19 PM
Ahem nobody likes a copycat! Jk I'm sure you weren't.
My subconscious loves the idea! ;D
Quote from: bilsu on November 21, 2014, 12:28:21 PM
I support Derrick, simply because Ners is relentlessly attacking him. Derrick has always given 100%. He is not a great player, but he is a great teammate and does not deserve to relentlessly attacked. The criticism should have been on Buzz for not recruiting a better point guard. It is quite obvious this season that Dawson is not a better point guard than Derrick.
Another example of the oft repeated fallacy that there is "relentless unwarranted praise of Derrick." This simply is not true. I cannot remember one example of a poster relentlessly praising Derrick for anything other than being an outstanding teammate---a judgement I believe Ners shares. That is what is so frustrating to me about this entire topic. The debate really concerns whether or not Derrick was the best of the available bad options. This year our options are different, and I wish Ners and the board would concentrate on that, not the f'd up disaster that played out last year.
Quote from: connie on November 21, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
Another example of the oft repeated fallacy that there is "relentless unwarranted praise of Derrick." This simply is not true. I cannot remember one example of a poster relentlessly praising Derrick for anything other than being an outstanding teammate---a judgement I believe Ners shares. That is what is so frustrating to me about this entire topic. The debate really concerns whether or not Derrick was the best of the available bad options. This year our options are different, and I wish Ners and the board would concentrate on that, not the f'd up disaster that played out last year.
+ 100 for being rational of which I should not have to give out, but when this forum is a sea of teenagers in 20-something bodies that lack core fundamentals, then expected behavior shall be praised. Well written Connie. I shall inform the Dark Lord of your esteemed character.
Quote from: connie on November 21, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
Another example of the oft repeated fallacy that there is "relentless unwarranted praise of Derrick." This simply is not true. I cannot remember one example of a poster relentlessly praising Derrick for anything other than being an outstanding teammate---a judgement I believe Ners shares. That is what is so frustrating to me about this entire topic. The debate really concerns whether or not Derrick was the best of the available bad options. This year our options are different, and I wish Ners and the board would concentrate on that, not the f'd up disaster that played out last year.
Good description of last year's issue. Ners' problem this season is that he hasn't yet come to grips with the fact that Derrick is
still a better option than John...even though it now means that Derrick is option 2 or 3 (depending on whether Duane is played at PG or SG), and that John is still behind him - as option 3 or 4.
That's right - I'm a "Derrick supporter", and I'm saying that he is the second or third best PG this season...only ahead of John. I guess that counts as "relentless unwarranted praise."
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 21, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
You can't be serious. He was praised relentlessly last year by numerous posters.
Praised, or merely defended?
Quote from: mattyv1908 on November 21, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken there was a post last year of the real life Ners having something to do with owning a yogurt chain. I believe 'Ners' is derived from a portion of his name. I'm not certain but I think you can search for it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
How do y'all get Ners outta Pinkberry?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 21, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
How do y'all get Ners outta Pinkberry?
Gosh damnit you never fail to crack me up.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 21, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
+ 100 for being rational of which I should not have to give out, but when this forum is a sea of teenagers in 20-something bodies that lack core fundamentals, then expected behavior shall be praised. Well written Connie. I shall inform the Dark Lord of your esteemed character.
You of all people should be talking ::).
By the way, what kind of fundamentals are we talking about here? We all know Ners has both fundamentals and street skills when it comes to on the court.
Also, anybody else find it absolutely hilarious that Ners calls people out every time they talk about being done posting here and/or putting someone on ignore, yet here he is starting an
entire thread about himself? I'm fairly certain I've seen him call others hypocrites. Might be time to look in the mirror.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2014, 08:06:52 PM
You of all people should be talking ::).
By the way, what kind of fundamentals are we talking about here? We all know Ners has both fundamentals and street skills when it comes to on the court.
Also, anybody else find it absolutely hilarious that Ners calls people out every time they talk about being done posting here and/or putting someone on ignore, yet here he is starting an entire thread about himself? I'm fairly certain I've seen him call others hypocrites. Might be time to look in the mirror.
Me? You don't know me!!! I'm a newbie - Assistant and Procurer for the Dark Lord. Beware ....... He shall rise again!
Just want to keep this thread alive. It has great, untapped potential for some early season levity. Have a great weekend, Marquette Nation.
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Quote from: connie on November 21, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
Another example of the oft repeated fallacy that there is "relentless unwarranted praise of Derrick." This simply is not true. I cannot remember one example of a poster relentlessly praising Derrick for anything other than being an outstanding teammate---a judgement I believe Ners shares. That is what is so frustrating to me about this entire topic. The debate really concerns whether or not Derrick was the best of the available bad options. This year our options are different, and I wish Ners and the board would concentrate on that, not the f'd up disaster that played out last year.
+1. Excellently stated. There was no one consistently praising Derrick. The best I remember anyone saying is "best option on the team right now" "very good defender" "high character kid." He certainly got trashed more than he got praised. This was never an argument about if Derrick Wilson was good, it was an argument about Derrick Wilson being less inadequate than Jamil/Mayo/Dawson at the PG.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 21, 2014, 08:10:34 PM
Me? You don't know me!!! I'm a newbie - Assistant and Procurer for the Dark Lord. Beware ....... He shall rise again!
Dude MU_hilltopper already outed either your IP address or something as the Mikedeanesdarkglasses guy so it's just weird to do what you're doing at this point
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 22, 2014, 01:46:44 AM
Dude MU_hilltopper already outed either your IP address or something as the Mikedeanesdarkglasses guy so it's just weird to do what you're doing at this point
Your subpar logic has failed you once again. Beware, for the Dark Lord may take his fury out on thee. And if he gives you mercy when he returns.... then I shall be the thorn in your side. For he is not me, nor I him, but part of the same kin.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 21, 2014, 08:06:52 PM
You of all people should be talking ::).
Also, anybody else find it absolutely hilarious that Ners calls people out every time they talk about being done posting here and/or putting someone on ignore, yet here he is starting an entire thread about himself?
Surely, somewhere, there is a GIF of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction saying 'I will not be ignored.'
Quote from: MUCam on November 20, 2014, 01:03:55 PM
8. The BMA smackdown of Ners loses its luster if Ners isn't around to argue about how it wasn't a smack down.
PS. This list came out way less funny than it was originally envisioned in my mind. Honestly, it is pretty much comedic crap. Feel free to edit and revise as you all see fit.
I actually laughed out loud. Even if the list wasn't as funny as you'd envisioned, No. 8 was great. It's still probably my favorite post ever on Scoop. (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=28095.msg324636#msg324636)
P.S. I also voted no.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 21, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
You can't be serious. He was praised relentlessly last year by numerous posters.
You and woody warrior keep making this claim but you can't seem to back it up. Why don't you provide us with some examples of this relentless praise of Derrick that
forces poor Ners to make 5,000 posts ripping the kid.
Anyone else equally hoping and fearing that Ellisium is really Ners trying to hijack a thread that he made about himself into a thread totally about his nom de plume?
This site is an embarrassment to MU. People come here to see what's new with MU basketball and the most active thread is about and created by some attention whore jagoff poster
Every time people on this site wonder why our fanbase isn't taken seriously, please reference this thread.
Although I'm sure there are similar threads on Duke, Kentucky and Wisconsin sites....
Quote from: MUsoxfan on November 22, 2014, 08:29:31 AM
This site is an embarrassment to MU. People come here to see what's new with MU basketball and the most active thread is about and created by some attention whore jagoff poster
Every time people on this site wonder why our fanbase isn't taken seriously, please reference this thread.
Although I'm sure there are similar threads on Duke, Kentucky and Wisconsin sites....
So every fan board has the same elements, but we should be embarrassed. Got it. Thanks for contributing.
Quote from: MUsoxfan on November 22, 2014, 08:29:31 AM
This site is an embarrassment to MU. People come here to see what's new with MU basketball and the most active thread is about and created by some attention whore jagoff poster
Every time people on this site wonder why our fanbase isn't taken seriously, please reference this thread.
Although I'm sure there are similar threads on Duke, Kentucky and Wisconsin sites....
Then don't come here any longer.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 22, 2014, 02:05:35 AM
Your subpar logic has failed you once again. Beware, for the Dark Lord may take his fury out on thee. And if he gives you mercy when he returns.... then I shall be the thorn in your side. For he is not me, nor I him, but part of the same kin.
I highly recommend you change your name to ...
DARK LORD OF DOUCHEBAGGERY
Or maybe ...
DARK LORD OF DIPSHITTERY
Or maybe ...
DARK LORD OF DUMBASSERY
Quote from: TSmith34 on November 22, 2014, 07:22:12 AM
You and woody warrior keep making this claim but you can't seem to back it up. Why don't you provide us with some examples of this relentless praise of Derrick that forces poor Ners to make 5,000 posts ripping the kid.
Look it up yourself. Love the internet people who expect others to do their click research for them.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 22, 2014, 09:31:42 AM
Look it up yourself. Love the internet people who expect others to do their click research for them.
But he did and TSmith34 found nada. The lesson? To this point there is no internet search engine that can search the dark recesses of your and Wojo'sMojo's imaginations.
This whole thread is beginning to remind me of this:
http://youtu.be/bD4xwK13lGk
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 21, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
How do y'all get Ners outta Pinkberry?
My wife actually preferred Red Mango. As for myself, when she would suggest a Red Mango run I would always counter with a trip to a local single malt dispensary.
Quote from: willie warrior on November 22, 2014, 09:31:42 AM
Look it up yourself. Love the internet people who expect others to do their click research for them.
You made the claim, yet you can't back it up. The transparent attempt to make believe others are just too lazy to prove your point for you is just pathetic and sad.
Quote from: tower912 on November 22, 2014, 06:15:09 AM
Surely, somewhere, there is a GIF of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction saying 'I will not be ignored.'
Ask and ye shall ....
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lswsyiRofY1qmxmrao1_r1_400.gif)
Quote from: MUsoxfan on November 22, 2014, 08:29:31 AM
This site is an embarrassment to MU. People come here to see what's new with MU basketball and the most active thread is about and created by some attention whore jagoff poster
Every time people on this site wonder why our fanbase isn't taken seriously, please reference this thread.
Although I'm sure there are similar threads on Duke, Kentucky and Wisconsin sites....
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/53f017b81486736335dd77ce60088403/tumblr_mki255QDR21qf8btso1_400.gif)
p.s. Go Sox.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 21, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
You can't be serious. He was praised relentlessly last year by numerous posters.
False. He was preferred over John Dawson. Multiple people (including myself) who had that preference, also acknowledged his play was bad. That's it.
Quote from: Ellisium on November 22, 2014, 02:05:35 AM
Your subpar logic has failed you once again. Beware, for the Dark Lord may take his fury out on thee. And if he gives you mercy when he returns.... then I shall be the thorn in your side. For he is not me, nor I him, but part of the same kin.
Did we really attend the same school? Like i used to think mu had some standards about who it admits
Ners must be sitting back just enjoying what he created here:
(http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/standby-melardass-07-560x313.jpg)
200
Quote from: LittleMurs on November 22, 2014, 09:41:13 AM
But he did and TSmith34 found nada. The lesson? To this point there is no internet search engine that can search the dark recesses of your and Wojo'sMojo's imaginations.
My imaginations? It's funny how the tune on Derrick has changed. Now certain posters claim that they have always said he was just the best of a bad situation. That's bs and there were plenty of arguments about it on here. What happened to his elite game changing defense? His ball security and leadership on the court? We just need to adjust our lineup to fit his skills? And the best one, "he's the least of our problems." Im not going to go into search history to prove my point and posters can backtrack from their statements all they want.
Quote from: Pakuni on November 22, 2014, 10:18:36 AM
Ask and ye shall ....
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lswsyiRofY1qmxmrao1_r1_400.gif)
And she wasn't ignored as he allowed her to do a different kind of slurping on the freight elevator.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 22, 2014, 10:27:38 AM
Did we really attend the same school? Like i used to think mu had some standards about who it admits
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8UG1edVCQECic/giphy.gif)
Quote from: keefe on November 22, 2014, 09:57:53 AM
My wife actually preferred Red Mango. As for myself, when she would suggest a Red Mango run I would always counter with a trip to a local single malt dispensary.
I've gone cold turkey off the chit since investigatin' the whole soft yogurt manufacturin' process. Basically, the softer the yogurt, the more sugar and/or sugar substitutes are involved. Sugar and wheat will absolutely kill one's ass. Can't completely eliminate all sugar, certainly can cut back. I like mine hard. So, stickin' to Purple Door or Go Greek in Chicos neck of the woods.
No human needs to eat any wheat or grains.
If Ners is banned, what happens to the bet? And just for a refresher, what were the conditions on that $500 bet?
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on November 22, 2014, 11:14:19 AM
My imaginations? It's funny how the tune on Derrick has changed. Now certain posters claim that they have always said he was just the best of a bad situation. That's bs and there were plenty of arguments about it on here. What happened to his elite game changing defense? His ball security and leadership on the court? We just need to adjust our lineup to fit his skills? And the best one, "he's the least of our problems." Im not going to go into search history to prove my point and posters can backtrack from their statements all they want.
Derrick does show good leadership. Derrick does protect the ball very well - check out his TO numbers.
The "elite game-changing defense" was a mocking phrase used by the Derrick haters in response to the Derrick supporters simply saying he is a good defender...which he is.
Fail.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 22, 2014, 03:01:25 PM
Derrick does show good leadership. Derrick does protect the ball very well - check out his TO numbers.
The "elite game-changing defense" was a mocking phrase used by the Derrick haters in response to the Derrick supporters simply saying he is a good defender...which he is.
Fail.
Well there ya go
Fitting that this thread is now about Derrick. It's gone on long enough, Locked.