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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on April 04, 2014, 05:57:17 PM

Title: Recruit Situation
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 04, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Other than the Cohen's encouraging tweet last night, radio silence from the signed recruits.

No one has affirmed they are coming BUT no one has asked for their release either. (Note, Harris is different as he never signed in the first place)

Wojo was spotted today in the AL having lunch so he's in no hurry to go see Hill (he better hurry or the masters is going to lock up Augusta's airport with all the private planes next week).

Wojo has been here four days, what should we read into no movement by the recruits?

* good that no one is asking out (they are seriously considering going with Wojo)

* bad that no one has affirmed (they are unsure of him)

* not surprised no movement after 4 days, patience grasshopper

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Markusquette on April 04, 2014, 05:59:41 PM
Not surprised about anything.  In fact I'm quite happy he's already spoken with and met Sandy as well as talked to some of the other guys (even Flory).  Clearly he's dedicated.  A lot is going on and he will get to the recruits as soon as he can.  To be honest I like that he's focusing on developing relationships with the current players first.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: brandx on April 04, 2014, 06:01:45 PM
Being here for 4 days means nothing. Most recruits develop relationships with assistants and head coaches that may last a year or more before they sign. I would not expect any of our recruits to jump right aboard until they develop a relationship with Wojo - if they even do.

Being our recruits with a signed LOI gives Wojo a leg up in getting them to want to still attend Marquette, but we will have to wait a while to see what happens.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 04, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
The spring signing date is getting closer all the time, and schools are still locking up kids, so, if Marquette's recruits aren't feeling a sense of urgency to get a release from their LOI, I take that as good news for now.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: BM1090 on April 04, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
I vote good. They are at least talking to him. Could have asked for their release already.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Groin_pull on April 04, 2014, 06:07:15 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 04, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Other than the Cohen's encouraging tweet last night, radio silence from the signed recruits.

No one has affirmed they are coming BUT no one has asked for their release either. (Note, Harris is different as he never signed in the first place)

Wojo was spotted today in the AL having lunch so he's in no hurry to go see Hill (he better hurry or the masters is going to lock up Augusta's airport with all the private planes next week).

Wojo has been here four days, what should we read into no movement by the recruits?

* good that no one is asking out (they are seriously considering going with Wojo)

* bad that no one has affirmed (they are unsure of him)

* not surprised no movement after 4 days, patience grasshopper

Thoughts?

I would ask for patience. No one knows who Wojo has been in contact with (other than Cohen). At this point, no news is good news. But honestly, if our recruits ask for their release, the world will continue spinning. I've quickly warmed to Wojo and assume he has a good handle on the situation. He knows who is going to stay...and who will want to leave.

It would be nice to keep this incoming class together, but if not, Wojo (and his eventual coaching staff) will recruit solid replacements. I feel good about that.

I would also urge people not to judge Wojo based on whether these recruits stay or go. Not fair to expect a new coach to instantly build relationships with these kids...especially compared to the outgoing coach who has been able to build a connection over a year or two or more.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 04, 2014, 06:07:25 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 04, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
The spring signing date is getting closer all the time, and schools are still locking up kids, so, if Marquette's recruits aren't feeling a sense of urgency to get a release from their LOI, I take that as good news for now.

My thought too.  If you want to leave, you would have spoken up days ago.  Available landing spots are filling up.

If you want to go to VT with Brent, they just say so.  Why put yourself through this process if you want to go yo VT?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: AirPunches on April 04, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Wojo will do his best to keep the guys. I have heard Wojo has been thinking about Hill a lot lately. A whole lot.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: bilsu on April 04, 2014, 06:17:02 PM
I would think Wojo has talked to all the recruits on the phone and has scheduled a visit with them. After the visit they can ask out.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Tums Festival on April 04, 2014, 06:18:02 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 04, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
The spring signing date is getting closer all the time, and schools are still locking up kids, so, if Marquette's recruits aren't feeling a sense of urgency to get a release from their LOI, I take that as good news for now.

Runs from April 16 to May 21.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mr.MUskie on April 04, 2014, 06:20:18 PM
Quote from: MARQ_13 on April 04, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Wojo will do his best to keep the guys. I have heard Wojo has been thinking about Hill a lot lately. A whole lot.


Source?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 04, 2014, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: Heavy Gear on April 04, 2014, 06:18:02 PM
Runs from April 16 to May 21.

But all the spots are filling and the bulk will sign on the 16th.  If you want out, these are critical days to open your recruitment.  Even waiting until Monday risks spots going to others.

Therefore I think no one asking out is a good sign.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: brandx on April 04, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
Teams would make room for Hill. Pearce and Shayok would probably go mid-major where there will be plenty of openings.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on April 04, 2014, 06:28:55 PM
I'm trying to find the article I read this morning...but it was a Kentucky recruiting article and it said if the Harrison twins declare for the draft, they would have playing time available in their backcourt and were going to target Ahmed Hill.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: AirPunches on April 04, 2014, 06:32:57 PM
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 04, 2014, 06:28:55 PM
I'm trying to find the article I read this morning...but it was a Kentucky recruiting article and it said if the Harrison twins declare for the draft, they would have playing time available in their backcourt and were going to target Ahmed Hill.

How nice of them to target one of our SIGNED recruits. Be interesting to know when that article was written. Prior to Brent leaving ? Have heard the same regarding hill though. Good chance he ends up at UK. He will be extremely hard to keep.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 04, 2014, 06:38:32 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 04, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
No one has affirmed they are coming BUT no one has asked for their release either. (Note, Harris is different as he never signed in the first place)


This is not true. Our recruits asked for their release right when Buzz left.

They were informed that they'd have to wait to be released until the new head coach has talked to them.

Wojo still hasn't talked to most of them.

We are in a holding pattern right now. There is no good news yet since it's been 4 days. Just the bad news that all of our recruits asked to be released and the only reason that they weren't was because of University policy.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: wadesworld on April 04, 2014, 06:40:09 PM
Respect the process.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Sunbelt15 on April 04, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 04, 2014, 06:20:18 PM

Source?

Nobody gives real sources here, so why ask.  ?-(
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: nyg on April 04, 2014, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 04, 2014, 06:28:55 PM
I'm trying to find the article I read this morning...but it was a Kentucky recruiting article and it said if the Harrison twins declare for the draft, they would have playing time available in their backcourt and were going to target Ahmed Hill.

http://sports.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2014/kentucky-69

They already are loaded up.  Booker #30 (overall), Ulis #33 (overall) guards and Matthews for 2015.  

Can't believe alot of scoopers already writing Hill off based on complete nothing said by him/coaches/anybody.  Unless I am missing the statement made by Hill that he requested his release and will consider options.  
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: BM1090 on April 04, 2014, 06:42:58 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 04, 2014, 06:38:32 PM
This is not true. Our recruits asked for their release right when Buzz left.

They were informed that they'd have to wait to be released until the new head coach has talked to them.

Wojo still hasn't talked to most of them.

We are in a holding pattern right now. There is no good news yet since it's been 4 days. Just the bad news that all of our recruits asked to be released and the only reason that they weren't was because of University policy.

No. Only Cohen asked for his release. And he has met with Wojo and has yet to formally request it.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: nyg on April 04, 2014, 06:55:48 PM
Quote from: Buzz'sBS on April 04, 2014, 06:28:55 PM
I'm trying to find the article I read this morning...but it was a Kentucky recruiting article and it said if the Harrison twins declare for the draft, they would have playing time available in their backcourt and were going to target Ahmed Hill.

http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/2014/03/21/williams-leaves-marquette-which-has-top-recruits/

Found the article.  Just generic, stating UK "could", not going to, target Hill. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dish on April 04, 2014, 07:09:09 PM
Most importantly, what did he have for lunch?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: muwarrior97 on April 04, 2014, 07:36:58 PM
Quote from: MARQ_13 on April 04, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Wojo will do his best to keep the guys. I have heard Wojo has been thinking about Hill a lot lately. A whole lot.
per IWB?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Warrior1969 on April 04, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 04, 2014, 06:38:32 PM
This is not true. Our recruits asked for their release right when Buzz left.

They were informed that they'd have to wait to be released until the new head coach has talked to them.

Wojo still hasn't talked to most of them.

We are in a holding pattern right now. There is no good news yet since it's been 4 days. Just the bad news that all of our recruits asked to be released and the only reason that they weren't was because of University policy.

You are full of $hit, you have no clue who Wojo has talked to or not.  You mean to tell me he has been on the job 4 days and you think he has not even called Hill?  Yeah that is believable.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 04, 2014, 07:38:33 PM
Quote from: Sunbelt15 on April 04, 2014, 06:42:13 PM
Nobody gives real sources here, so why ask.  ?-(

You're joking, right?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/tom-crean-accidentally-sends-weird-tweet-not-meant-193243362--ncaab.html
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Big Daddy Z on April 04, 2014, 08:17:15 PM
I fully expect to lose most of our current commits and we will gain new ones...that's just how this stuff goes. This year will be lean but next year will be much better as the new assistants will be on board working their magic!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Wally Schroeder on April 04, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
Quote from: mr.MUskie on April 04, 2014, 06:20:18 PM

Source?

Pretty sure that's a play on a Tom Cream tweet. He mistakenly tweeted that about some recruit instead of sending him a PM.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: HutchwasClutch on April 04, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
I think the school we nosed out to get Med Hill to sign with us was Missouri.  Anyone know their scholarship situation as it stands today?  That would seem a very likely destination IF he wants out of his MU LOI.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 04, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
When Kansas had an opening and wanted Tyshawn Taylor it was curtains. If Kentucky really wants Ahmed Hill I'd expect the same.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 04, 2014, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 04, 2014, 10:12:34 PM
When Kansas had an opening and wanted Tyshawn Taylor it was curtains. If Kentucky really wants Ahmed Hill I'd expect the same.

The next game.... or two.... and how well the Harrison twins do, will dictate the Hill decision.  If tHarrison twins play lights out the next 2 games, then I think they leave.  If they have a poor showing against Wisconsin, I think they stay as their stock won't be anything special. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: source? on April 04, 2014, 10:52:01 PM
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 04, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
I think the school we nosed out to get Med Hill to sign with us was Missouri.  Anyone know their scholarship situation as it stands today?  That would seem a very likely destination IF he wants out of his MU LOI.

I don't know about their scholarship situation, but their program is a mess right now. Players getting arrested on drug charges, assaulting each other. The last month has been brutal over there.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 07:46:45 AM
Quote from: Warrior1969 on April 04, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
You are full of $hit, you have no clue who Wojo has talked to or not.  You mean to tell me he has been on the job 4 days and you think he has not even called Hill?  Yeah that is believable.

You can curse all you want, but in-homes take a while to set up. You're completely out of touch if you think we'd let these cats walk after just a phone-call.

Daily Eagle ‏@Daily_Eagle  18h
Marial Shayok (@supermarial03) plans to meet with Coach Wojo this week to discuss his future, per @HoopsHypeCA. #mubb
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Jay Bee on April 05, 2014, 07:55:43 AM
Med is big on relationship with the coach.. could see him going to VT.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MUEng92 on April 05, 2014, 08:55:05 AM
Believe it or not I wasn't a scholarship athlete at MU so I won't pretend to know exactly what goes into a recruits thinking.  That said, I would think the relationships they have developed with the current players and other recruits would be a major factor in the decision to back out of their commitment.  If the coach was the only reason to choose a school, i would not respect recruit's process.

I am not suggesting the player relationships are more important than the relationship with the coach, but, they are going to be spending more time in the next four years with the other players than the coach.  I think it should be a larger factor than is being given credit for on this board.

I have to think it is a major plus that the player exodus has not happened, in terms of MUs ability to keep recruits.  Or, to put it another way, it could be worse!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: sailwi on April 05, 2014, 09:17:49 AM
I think part of the reason we have not seen any exodus is the parameters MU has put out.  LOI signors need to meet with WOJO before we will grant them a release.  None of the players gone public with they are being held hostage, etc like Hurley did with Taylor so it appears we are in better shape but I don't know if that is necessarily true.  Seems the players are respecting the process and not being jerks like Hurley.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: TedBaxter on April 05, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
I wiuldn't be surprised if Wojo will have had face to face visits with all 4 of the signees as early as the end of the weekend.  Just a guess as Pierce just returned from a trip to China.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Boone on April 05, 2014, 09:37:52 AM
Too bad policy apparently dictates a face to face w/Pierce. Nothing more than a project; will be a waste of fossil fuel.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
Quote from: sailwi on April 05, 2014, 09:17:49 AM
I think part of the reason we have not seen any exodus is the parameters MU has put out.  LOI signors need to meet with WOJO before we will grant them a release.  None of the players gone public with they are being held hostage, etc like Hurley did with Taylor so it appears we are in better shape but I don't know if that is necessarily true.  Seems the players are respecting the process and not being jerks like Hurley.

Careful. I mentioned that on the last page and I was told that I'm full of crap.

#RespectTheProcess
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 09:44:26 AM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
Careful. I mentioned that on the last page and I was told that I'm full of crap.

#RespectTheProcess

You're lucky....  If you didn't write #RespectTheProcess, I'd say you deserve to be in prison with Buzz.  Keep treading on thin ice ..... you rebel !!!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 05, 2014, 09:45:10 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 05, 2014, 09:44:26 AM
You're lucky....  If you didn't write #RespectTheProcess, I'd say you deserve to be in prison with Buzz.  Keep treading on thin ice ..... you rebel !!!


Oh god, not Internet jail!

#BuzzShouldBeInPrison
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 05, 2014, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: brandx on April 04, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
Teams would make room for Hill. Pearce and Shayok would probably go mid-major where there will be plenty of openings.

Why would they take a step down?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 05, 2014, 11:39:57 PM
Quote from: Boone on April 05, 2014, 09:37:52 AM
Too bad policy apparently dictates a face to face w/Pierce. Nothing more than a project; will be a waste of fossil fuel.

Pitt and Miami (both ACC BTW) beg to differ.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 01:07:06 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 05, 2014, 11:32:47 PM
Why would they take a step down?

Talk to me in two years.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Earl Tatum on April 06, 2014, 07:59:52 AM
Who are the Assistants. Don't Wojo have any in place?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MU Beaver on April 06, 2014, 08:46:55 AM
Quote from: Jamil_toMU10 on April 04, 2014, 05:59:41 PM
Not surprised about anything.  In fact I'm quite happy he's already spoken with and met Sandy as well as talked to some of the other guys (even Flory).  Clearly he's dedicated.  A lot is going on and he will get to the recruits as soon as he can.  To be honest I like that he's focusing on developing relationships with the current players first.

Totally agree. Also if you look at HIll's twitter backround it is a picture of the Bradley Center Packed with the MU floor. I think he is still a SOLID commit.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: dgies9156 on April 06, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
If it is down to us and the Hillbilly, we probably will get all of our recruits. We have a. Dynamic new coach with a winning tradition and good returning talent.

They have the Hillbilly. By all measures, he has limited talent, is in the ACC and will take at least a few years to rebuild.

Plus! Our players aren't bemoaning the loss of the Hillbilly as their head coach the way I would have expected? That tells me there is way more to what happened that what's been said.

I suspect we'll be OK and the Hillbilly will be an unemployed Hillbilly in just a few short years.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 06, 2014, 10:00:32 AM
If it is down to us and the Hillbilly, we probably will get all of our recruits. We have a. Dynamic new coach with a winning tradition and good returning talent.

They have the Hillbilly. By all measures, he has limited talent, is in the ACC and will take at least a few years to rebuild.

Plus! Our players aren't bemoaning the loss of the Hillbilly as their head coach the way I would have expected? That tells me there is way more to what happened that what's been said.

I suspect we'll be OK and the Hillbilly will be an unemployed Hillbilly in just a few short years.

The Hillbilly took MU to a higher level then Crean, maybe the best since Al, and you complain.  I hope Wojo can do as good.  Buzz brought in Fulce and Butler in right away with his connections,
that was pretty good start.  Lets see how Wojo sells the 4 kids committed.  Buzz lost out on Tyshawn Taylor who was pretty good at Kansas.  Taylor left, hopefully Hill will not.  Maybe there is another player out there that Wojo will be in contact with to save this recruiting year.  It probably would be best just to bring in 2 kids this year.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 11:33:26 AM
Quote from: MU Beaver on April 06, 2014, 08:46:55 AM
Totally agree. Also if you look at HIll's twitter backround it is a picture of the Bradley Center Packed with the MU floor. I think he is still a SOLID commit.

Yes, you just nailed it on the head.  This clearly proves that Hill is coming to MU.  Twitter has a new app that connects to our brains internally, so all thoughts are projected onto the twitter page itself. 

#donedeal
#twitterturd
#easilyinfluenced
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: dgies9156 on April 06, 2014, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
The Hillbilly took MU to a higher level then Crean, maybe the best since Al, and you complain.  I hope Wojo can do as good.  Buzz brought in Fulce and Butler in right away with his connections,
that was pretty good start.  Lets see how Wojo sells the 4 kids committed.  Buzz lost out on Tyshawn Taylor who was pretty good at Kansas.  Taylor left, hopefully Hill will not.  Maybe there is another player out there that Wojo will be in contact with to save this recruiting year.  It probably would be best just to bring in 2 kids this year.

I didn't criticize what the Hillbilly did for us at Marquette. Quite frankly, I would rather had him not become a hillbilly and stay with us at Marquette. I thought last year was bizarre and a learning experience for the Hillbilly, and had hoped for better things next year. We will have better things next year with Coach Wojo.

What I have said elsewhere is that we have gone through a messy and painful divorce with the Hillbilly. He left with our money, house and valuables and left us with alimony and child support. That's why I don't like the Hillbilly. I look forward to him waking up in his $10 million mansion in Blacksburg unemployed someday.

HO MU. Go WOJO!!!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
The Hillbilly took MU to a higher level then Crean, maybe the best since Al, and you complain. 

The Hillbilly won the lottery with all things started for him.  There are real reasons why MU didn't try to keep Buzz \ pushed him out vs a real reason why they didn't want Crean to go.

If Buzz was so wonderful, MU would have done everything they could to keep him.  If he was the best thing since Al McGuire, MU would do everything the could to keep him.................................


Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 06, 2014, 02:42:33 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
The Hillbilly won the lottery with all things started for him.  There are real reasons why MU didn't try to keep Buzz \ pushed him out vs a real reason why they didn't want Crean to go.

If Buzz was so wonderful, MU would have done everything they could to keep him.  If he was the best thing since Al McGuire, MU would do everything the could to keep him.................................

It terms of performance on the floor, he was the best thing since Al, yet Marquette was content to see him leave.  Ouch.  Let's hope that Wojo stays, although if he is successful, he'll make himself the number one candidate to one day replace Coach K.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 06, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
The Hillbilly won the lottery with all things started for him.  There are real reasons why MU didn't try to keep Buzz \ pushed him out vs a real reason why they didn't want Crean to go.

If Buzz was so wonderful, MU would have done everything they could to keep him.  If he was the best thing since Al McGuire, MU would do everything the could to keep him.................................

There is a difference. Bert left when the gittin' was good. Tom Crean was summarily dismissed.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: UticaBusBarn on April 06, 2014, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
The Hillbilly won the lottery with all things started for him.  There are real reasons why MU didn't try to keep Buzz \ pushed him out vs a real reason why they didn't want Crean to go.

If Buzz was so wonderful, MU would have done everything they could to keep him.  If he was the best thing since Al McGuire, MU would do everything the could to keep him.................................





You have alluded, on 27 different occasions, to the "real reasons" regarding MU opening the door to let Bent out. Without compromising your sources (ahem), might you be so kind as to articulate what the "real reasons" might be? This, for those of us who fully agree with you that something happened, but who might be a tad slow on figuring out what those reasons might be. Thank you.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 02:49:10 PM
Buzz had a lot of issues within the program, I might have taken that guaranteed contract. Third new regime at MU, time to move on, can he take Derrick with him.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 06, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
Quote from: keefe on April 06, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
There is a difference. Bert left when the gittin' was good. Tom Crean was summarily dismissed.

News coming from 4I?  The surprise in MU land and where he landed hardly makes Crean getting summarily dismissed from MU credible.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 06, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on April 06, 2014, 02:49:10 PM
Buzz had a lot of issues within the program, I might have taken that guaranteed contract. Third new regime at MU, time to move on, can he take Derrick with him.

Probably could, but he won't.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 06, 2014, 02:53:47 PM
Probably could, but he won't.


Will the, shorter, stockier PG syndrome manifest itself @ VaTech?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 06, 2014, 02:59:54 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 06, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
makes Crean getting summarily dismissed from MU credible.

(http://www.tvworthwatching.com/img/pages/HU5J8WR4PGZGJ3G.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: Wally Schroeder on April 04, 2014, 08:18:34 PM
Pretty sure that's a play on a Tom Cream tweet. He mistakenly tweeted that about some recruit instead of sending him a PM.

Was it ever established WHO TC tweeted about? The tone and context is not those typically used when talking to a recruit.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 06, 2014, 03:06:56 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:03:13 PM
Was it ever established WHO TC tweeted about? The tone and context is not those typically used when talking to a recruit.


It wasn't a recruit

(http://ksr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/crean-harbaughs-500x339.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
The Hillbilly won the lottery with all things started for him.  There are real reasons why MU didn't try to keep Buzz \ pushed him out vs a real reason why they didn't want Crean to go.

If Buzz was so wonderful, MU would have done everything they could to keep him.  If he was the best thing since Al McGuire, MU would do everything the could to keep him.................................

This. Brent was the coach at Marquette for as long as they'd have him. And not any longer.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: UticaBusBarn on April 06, 2014, 02:45:26 PM

You have alluded, on 27 different occasions, to the "real reasons" regarding MU opening the door to let Bent out. Without compromising your sources (ahem), might you be so kind as to articulate what the "real reasons" might be? This, for those of us who fully agree with you that something happened, but who might be a tad slow on figuring out what those reasons might be. Thank you.

-Fallout from sex assault reporting scandal. While Brent Williams didn't do anything wrong per se (unless you want to argue he could've reported directly to MPD sooner) things were never the same for him at MU thereafter.
-Conflicts over recruiting: Academic caliber of recruits, profile of recruits, etc.
-Discipline of current players.
-Conflicts over expectations of current MU players in the classroom and community.

BW did a lot of good things for Marquette and Milwaukee. There was a total breakdown between BW and the Administration.

All of this was very unfortunate for everyone involved it seems.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: keefe on April 06, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
There is a difference. Bert left when the gittin' was good. Tom Crean was summarily dismissed.

Switch those two around and you have an accurate statement.   
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
-Fallout from sex assault reporting scandal. While Brent Williams didn't do anything wrong per se (unless you want to argue he could've reported directly to MPD sooner) things were never the same for him at MU thereafter.
-Conflicts over recruiting: Academic caliber of recruits, profile of recruits, etc.
-Discipline of current players.
-Conflicts over expectations of current MU players in the classroom and community.

BW did a lot of good things for Marquette and Milwaukee. There was a total breakdown between BW and the Administration.

All of this was very unfortunate for everyone involved it seems.

I'd add 6 more things to that list
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 03:41:24 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
I'd add 6 more things to that list


Hurry, you only 1 minute until the buzzer goes off!!!  Pun intended. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
I'd add 6 more things to that list

Feel free. By all means.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mr.MUskie on April 06, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:29:23 PM
Switch those two around and you have an accurate statement.   

+1
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
I'd add 6 more things to that list

Hurry!!!  Chico

http://www.youtube.com/v/B3lLYOGDsts?hl=en_US&version=3"
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: AZWarrior on April 06, 2014, 03:57:01 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
I'd add 6 more things to that list

Please do.  I'd sincerely like to hear.  Well, OK....read.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on April 06, 2014, 02:42:33 PM
It terms of performance on the floor, he was the best thing since Al, yet Marquette was content to see him leave.  Ouch.  Let's hope that Wojo stays, although if he is successful, he'll make himself the number one candidate to one day replace Coach K.

Would you agree that sometimes it is more than performance on the floor that is critical?  You can look good on the outside while the body is diseased on the inside. 

"content" isn't the word I would have used....."ouch" isn't either. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 04:11:21 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
Would you agree that sometimes it is more than performance on the floor that is critical?  You can look good on the outside while the body is diseased on the inside. 

"content" isn't the word I would have used....."ouch" isn't either. 

I do not see 6 items here.  Please enjoy your parting gift and thanks for playing......

http://www.youtube.com/v/7IPiVNntIjE?hl=en_US&version=3
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 04:30:55 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 04:11:21 PM
I do not see 6 items here.  Please enjoy your parting gift and thanks for playing......




Gotta side with Chicos here.

Everybody on this board is guilty of conjecture at times.  Whether Chicos has inside information or not isn't the issue.  Neither is him choosing to share that information or not to.

He clearly has strong opinions on the issue and can be a polarizing figure on this board, but rarely does he make a statement that is overtly false or without merit.

For you to smugly call him out is rediculous at this point.  Why don't you reference your vintage briar pipe some more like it's some kind of status symbol?  I could just as easily mention my seven 1957 Fender tweed twins sitting in my studio but nobody gives a sh!t.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 04:30:55 PM

I could just as easily mention my seven 1957 Fender tweed twins sitting in my studio but nobody gives a sh!t.

Perfect amps for a vintage Les Paul
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
Quote from: brandx on April 06, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
Perfect amps for a vintage Les Paul

I think a Les Paul is best paired with an early AC30 top boost myself, but nothing sounds bad through a tweed twin.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 06, 2014, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 04:11:21 PM
I do not see 6 items here.  Please enjoy your parting gift and thanks for playing......


I wanted the Rice-A-Roni.


I told you the other day, others are coming out with stuff, slowly and surely.  I put out my concerns years ago and it was not pleasant.  People circled the wagons, no one wanted to hear it.  The hypocrisy was off the charts.  No, I'll just sit back and watch it unfold.  Some may not get out there, some will.  It's already started with some folks.  You don't let a coach with that success walk away to go to a God awful place like Va. Tech without reasons.

I thank him for his service, I'm glad he isn't coaching at MU anymore. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 06, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 04:30:55 PM

Why don't you reference your vintage briar pipe some more like it's some kind of status symbol?  I could just as easily mention my seven 1957 Fender tweed twins sitting in my studio but nobody gives a sh!t.

I have a mug from the Ardmore
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: keefe on April 06, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
I have a mug from the Ardmore

You should mention that more often when you're seeking credibility on an internet message board.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: keefe on April 06, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
I have a mug from the Ardmore
+75 Credibility Points
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 06, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:04:03 PM
You should mention that more often when you're seeking credibility on an internet message board.

I believe that stands very well in some circles. Very well, indeed!

Briar pipes and old guitars! Really. Let's speak of enduring value now, shall we?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: keefe on April 06, 2014, 05:08:47 PM
I believe that stands very well in some circles. Very well, indeed!

Briar pipes and old guitars! Really. Let's speak of enduring value now, shall we?


I am sorry Keefe
the color was not for you
mocking dean's glasses
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:13:47 PM

I am sorry Keefe
the color was not for you
mocking dean's glasses

Matty wants a smoke
Off the vintage briar pipe
Not today my friend
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MU82 on April 06, 2014, 05:19:01 PM
Quote from: Avenue Commons on April 06, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
This. Brent was the coach at Marquette for as long as they'd have him. And not any longer.

If this is true, nobody should be upset in the slightest that Buzz left.

If this is true, it's totally different from Crean, who obviously considered MU a stepping-stone. If this is true, Buzz didn't want to go anywhere, certainly not to Blacksburg.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Warhawk Warrior on April 06, 2014, 05:19:38 PM
Brett suffered the fate of many snake oil salesmen.  Their antics are novel at first, start to where thin after time, and finally run out of town.  They take their trade to another town where their oil isn't yet known.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:20:58 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
Matty wants a smoke
Off the vintage briar pipe
Not today my friend


Legend in own mind
M D D G needs to learn
Silence is golden

Hastily posting
Seeking self validation
Will leave one wanting

A losing battle
Deane should stick to cork sniffing
Give posting a rest
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 06, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 06, 2014, 05:19:01 PM
If this is true, nobody should be upset in the slightest that Buzz left.

If this is true, it's totally different from Crean, who obviously considered MU a stepping-stone. If this is true, Buzz didn't want to go anywhere, certainly not to Blacksburg.

Bert mistook warning shots across the bow as bad aim.  
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: brandx on April 06, 2014, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:20:58 PM
Legend in own mind
M D D G needs to learn
Silence is golden

Hastily posting
Seeking self validation
Will leave one wanting

A losing battle
Deane should stick to cork sniffing
Give posting a rest

+1
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 06:58:10 PM
Brandx - here's my final draft.  I included one last stanza.  Tell me what you think



Legend in own mind
M D D G needs to learn
Silence is golden

Hastily posting
Seeking self validation
Will leave one wanting

A losing battle
Deane should stick to cork sniffing
Give posting a rest

Dangerous gambit
Engaging people who have
Keener intellect
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 07:08:20 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 05:20:58 PM
Legend in own mind
M D D G needs to learn
Silence is golden

Hastily posting
Seeking self validation
Will leave one wanting

A losing battle
Deane should stick to cork sniffing
Give posting a rest


Is that all you have?
Amateur Hour Continues
I'm Your Host Matt V

Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
It took you forty five minutes to come up with that drivel?

Keep up the good work
Your post count climbs quickly now
A medal awaits

Internet courage
Your schtick grows more tiresome
Each passing keystroke

If you'll learn one thing
It's that this board will tell you
Where to put your pipe
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
It took you forty five minutes to come up with that drivel?

Keep up the good work
Your post count climbs quickly now
A medal awaits

Internet courage
Your schtick grows more tiresome
Each passing keystroke

If you'll learn one thing
It's that this board will tell you
Where to put your pipe

You start to scare me
Always talking about my pipe
Why are you obsessed?

You remind me of
Glenn Close Fatal Attraction
Please take cold shower

http://www.youtube.com/v/OZHe3GYQp_8?hl=en_US&version=3
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Are you two really having an internet haiku fight?  I can imagine the stories to your grandchildren...
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Put the keyboard down
The fresh air smells much better
Than parents' basement


(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7107/nerd1.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 07:47:06 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Are you two really having an internet haiku fight?  I can imagine the stories to your grandchildren...

Please address us in haiku format.  It would really make our day.  (slow day today)
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 07:47:06 PM
Please address us in haiku format.  It would really make our day.  (slow day today)

Hah, if you think this is slow, you know nothing about the offseason on Scoop.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: National Champs on April 06, 2014, 07:48:45 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Are you two really having an internet haiku fight?  I can imagine the stories to your grandchildren...

It's the educated version of a rap battle unfolding before our eyes.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 07:51:40 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Hah, if you think this is slow, you know nothing about the offseason on Scoop.

I don't think I speak alone when I say some of us are just hoping he get's his fifth gold star under his name and calls it a career.

EDIT:  Apparently in this topic alone he managed to earn his final merit badge with an additional 35 posts.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: NersEllenson on April 06, 2014, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Are you two really having an internet haiku fight?  I can imagine the stories to your grandchildren...

This epic.  Mike Deane's Glasses is quite the board addition...for better or worse...the guy single handedly alone is making up for the 5 or so departed Scoopers.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 06, 2014, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
Hah, if you think this is slow, you know nothing about the offseason on Scoop.

Not enough tinfoil hats.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 06, 2014, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: National Champs on April 06, 2014, 07:48:45 PM
It's the educated version of a rap battle unfolding before our eyes.
DJ...spin that Shiii...poem!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 07:46:45 PM
Put the keyboard down
The fresh air smells much better
Than parents' basement


(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7107/nerd1.jpg)

Matt V so Cliche'
Someone else step up to mic
Bored of 2nd string


Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: AZWarrior on April 06, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Are you two really having an internet haiku fight?  I can imagine the stories to your grandchildren...

Well, a break-dance-off wasn't practical.  So they settled for this.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 06, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
Well, a break-dance-off wasn't practical.  So they settled for this.

DANCE OFF !      MATTYV 1908 vs.  Mike Deane's Dark Glasses MOM!!!        DANCE OFF!!!

Mattyv1908  Dance Move
http://www.youtube.com/v/ebfaIF64sLA?hl=en_US&version=3

I decided to let Momma Deane's Dark Glasses lay down the gauntlet on Mattyv1908

http://www.youtube.com/v/7Zv-6AeZIHw?version=3&hl=en_US
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 10:58:29 PM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 06, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
Matt V so Cliche'
Someone else step up to mic
Bored of 2nd string





Sorry took a break
I have an actual life
Not that you would know

Goodnight M U scoop
Deane bores me with his daily
forty seven posts......... ::)
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 07, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
Quote from: keefe on April 06, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
I have a mug from the Ardmore

I have a red plastic cup from Real Chilli.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 07, 2014, 09:09:11 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 07, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
I have a red plastic cup from Real Chilli.

Vintage Briar Pipes
Ceramic Mugs from Ardmore
Red Real Chili Cup
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 07, 2014, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 07, 2014, 09:09:11 AM
Vintage Briar Pipes
Ceramic Mugs from Ardmore
Red Real Chili Cup

The Deaner showing he has a full understanding of Scoop!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: AZWarrior on April 07, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 07, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
I have a red plastic cup from Real Chilli.

I have a "Spy's Demise" glass from The Safe House.   ;D
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 07, 2014, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 07, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
I have a "Spy's Demise" glass from The Safe House.   ;D

Glasses, cups and pipes,
The cupboard no longer bare
More items needed
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 07, 2014, 12:24:35 PM
drinking at lenny's
harlots, pimps, the down and out
the other marquette
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 07, 2014, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: AZWarrior on April 07, 2014, 12:12:04 PM
I have a "Spy's Demise" glass from The Safe House.   ;D

I have such a glass
Don't remember getting it
It was a good night
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 07, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 07, 2014, 01:07:24 PM
I have such a glass
Don't remember getting it
It was a good night

how many brain cells
drowned beneath the frothy wave
the folly of youth
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 07, 2014, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: keefe on April 07, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
how many brain cells
drowned beneath the frothy wave
the folly of youth

If only back then
We knew what we know today...
Who am I kidding?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Newsdreams on April 07, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 07, 2014, 07:55:00 AM
I have a red plastic cup from Real Chilli.
I have a faded Real Chili bumper sticker.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 07, 2014, 04:19:30 PM
Quote from: newsdrms on April 07, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
I have a faded Real Chili bumper sticker.

I'm sorry, but we cannot clog up the cupboard with Real Chili adornments.  There must be some other trinket that  you can use..... 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: BrewCity83 on April 07, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
Avalanche is gone
Just hazy memories and
Ass splinters remain

Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 08, 2014, 03:06:51 PM
Quote from: newsdrms on April 07, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
I have a faded Real Chili bumper sticker.


two am cravings
double meat marquette special
not just for breakfast
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Eldon on April 09, 2014, 01:04:37 AM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on April 06, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Are you two really having an internet haiku fight?  I can imagine the stories to your grandchildren...

LOL oh man, this is so great. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 09, 2014, 01:54:42 AM
Since we're reminiscing here...


Marquette Gyros' art
walls splashed with ketchup, aged spit
puke outside the steps
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 02:28:52 AM

stale odor of malt
glass crunching under my feet
night time at the lanche
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2014, 05:35:06 AM
year~1979-sunday morning walk past the 'lanche to open(work)hegarty's at 7 a.m. for the gesu early morning ushers-never forget that sound of a push broom moving all the broken glass from the previous night's revelers.  30 cent special ex, red white and blue, blatz bottles.  remeber when leinies was a secretly good beer at mu liquor at gut rot price-$4.69/case? not too bad warm if you didn't have a fridge either ?-( 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 08:03:48 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2014, 05:35:06 AM
sunday morning walk past the 'lanche to open(work)hegarty's at 7 a.m.

Just one word cost you dearly in the esteem of many Scoopers...
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2014, 05:35:06 AM
year~1979-sunday morning walk past the 'lanche to open(work)hegarty's at 7 a.m. for the gesu early morning ushers-never forget that sound of a push broom moving all the broken glass from the previous night's revelers.  30 cent special ex, red white and blue, blatz bottles.  remeber when leinies was a secretly good beer at mu liquor at gut rot price-$4.69/case? not too bad warm if you didn't have a fridge either ?-(  

I remember when Leinies was a bargain beer. Amazing repositioning of a brand.

We had the scion of the Walters Beer Empire living on Schroeder 10N. There was never any need to make that 0100 trudge to Marquette Liquor with that sort of connection living just a few doors down. Come to think of it, we also had the scion of the La Rosa Pasta Empire living on our floor. Is it any wonder why Schroeder 10N was known as the "Park Avenue" of Marquette Residence Life?

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mvBQE4pz0InxTv_AmjgWoAw.jpg)


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6gM-N1QgvuEjoZGsK9-ZaVD31FS_NanoTkghieqBCiwEyh2D8)
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Sharpie on April 09, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2014, 05:35:06 AM
year~1979-sunday morning walk past the 'lanche to open(work)hegarty's at 7 a.m. for the gesu early morning ushers-never forget that sound of a push broom moving all the broken glass from the previous night's revelers.  30 cent special ex, red white and blue, blatz bottles.  remeber when leinies was a secretly good beer at mu liquor at gut rot price-$4.69/case? not too bad warm if you didn't have a fridge either ?-( 

Year 2005-2007....we would venture to the harp and shamrock around 6-630ish after getting a quick drunken bite from mcdonalds to pursue lots of bad decisions/bloody Mary's/shots/beers on many weekend mornings.

Wish I could've experienced the lanche and the other bars that many posters reminisce about. Hegartys was also frequented every wed for double your dough nights. Again, lots of bad decisions stemmed from that place.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 08:23:24 AM
Beer that is Beer - Love the slogan!  Who made Walter's?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 08:26:38 AM
Quote from: mattyv1908 on April 06, 2014, 10:58:29 PM

Sorry took a break
I have an actual life
Not that you would know

Goodnight M U scoop
Deane bores me with his daily
forty seven posts......... ::)

internet haikus
gives new meaning to bitch slap
al gore would be proud
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 09, 2014, 08:32:24 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 08:23:24 AM
Beer that is Beer - Love the slogan!  Who made Walter's?

German immigrants named Walter started the Walter Brewing Company in Eau Claire & Pueblo, CO
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 08:48:02 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 08:23:24 AM
Beer that is Beer - Love the slogan!  Who made Walter's?

The Walter family did back then. The Walters sent their sons to Marquette for several generations where they learned about life, love, and the loss of innocence before returning to Eau Claire to assume their rightful role in the running of Empire.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MU82 on April 09, 2014, 08:50:59 AM
Quote from: keefe on April 09, 2014, 08:20:47 AM
I remember when Leinies was a bargain beer. Amazing repositioning of a brand.

We had the scion of the Walters Beer Empire living on Schroeder 10N. There was never any need to make that 0100 trudge to Marquette Liquor with that sort of connection living just a few doors down. Come to think of it, we also had the scion of the La Rosa Pasta Empire living on our floor. Is it any wonder why Schroeder 10N was known as the "Park Avenue" of Marquette Residence Life?

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mvBQE4pz0InxTv_AmjgWoAw.jpg)


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6gM-N1QgvuEjoZGsK9-ZaVD31FS_NanoTkghieqBCiwEyh2D8)

When did you go to MU? I was buds with a Walter's kid on my floor -- (McCormick 4) freshman year (78-79). Always brought back a few cases when he returned to school after Thanksgiving, Xmas, spring breaks. I can't remember what it tasted like ... as if I cared. I was 18 and drank anything that said "beer" on it.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
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Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: State Street Warrior on April 09, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
Walter's was shut down a while ago (fire destroyed the brewery, I believe I read) but the recipe was sold to Northwoods brewpub based out of Eau Claire.  You can actually find 6 packs of it at liquor stores in northwest Wisconsin.  I sometimes pick one up when I'm up there to bring it to relatives in Milwaukee that remember it fondly.  If the hipsters find out about it I expect it will double in price.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: humanlung on April 09, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
There has been A LOT of value-added info on recruits the last few pages...
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: humanlung on April 09, 2014, 09:44:19 AM
There has been A LOT of value-added info on recruits the last few pages...

LOL !!! 

If someone has a high school video of a game of any recruit that's not Sandy Cohen, I'll be happy to watch and analyze.  Otherwise, with the limited amount of information, it's hard to speculate. 
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: WadeATKBurton on April 09, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on April 09, 2014, 10:00:08 AM
LOL !!!  

If someone has a high school video of a game of any recruit that's not Sandy Cohen, I'll be happy to watch and analyze.  Otherwise, with the limited amount of information, it's hard to speculate.  

Right. I havnt even seen a video of Satchel or Shayok. Dont even know if they are any good or not!
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 09, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: atk13thst on April 09, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
Right. I havnt even seen a video of Satchel or Shayok. Dont even know if they are any good or not!
you just have to look....

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=40570.msg531339#msg531339
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Warrior Code on April 09, 2014, 12:07:03 PM
Quote from: Sharpie on April 09, 2014, 08:22:56 AM
Year 2005-2007....we would venture to the harp and shamrock around 6-630ish after getting a quick drunken bite from mcdonalds to pursue lots of bad decisions/bloody Mary's/shots/beers on many weekend mornings.

Wish I could've experienced the lanche and the other bars that many posters reminisce about. Hegartys was also frequented every wed for double your dough nights. Again, lots of bad decisions stemmed from that place.


I could see the Hamrock from my back balcony. It was my favorite haunt junior and senior year due to proximity and lack of underagers. Severely underrated and severely leaning to one side. It only had, what, MGD and Lite on tap?
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: MU82 on April 09, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: WarriorCode on April 09, 2014, 12:07:03 PM

I could see the Hamrock from my back balcony. It was my favorite haunt junior and senior year due to proximity and lack of underagers. Severely underrated and severely leaning to one side. It only had, what, MGD and Lite on tap?

Harp & Shamrock was our hangout junior and senior years, too. We'd put a fiver on the bar when we got there and it would still be sitting there hours later when we left. I guess Dan the barkeep just liked our company! Schlitz on tap back then, I believe.

The owner, a raging, admitted racist named Bernie who trained his dog to go nuts if a black person happened into the bar, made me sick. Fortunately, he usually wasn't there. And when he was, he usually was too drunk to say anything or to get off his fat ass. I liked Harp a lot better when he wasn't there.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: Warrior Code on April 09, 2014, 01:49:09 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 09, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
Harp & Shamrock was our hangout junior and senior years, too. We'd put a fiver on the bar when we got there and it would still be sitting there hours later when we left. I guess Dan the barkeep just liked our company! Schlitz on tap back then, I believe.

The owner, a raging, admitted racist named Bernie who trained his dog to go nuts if a black person happened into the bar, made me sick. Fortunately, he usually wasn't there. And when he was, he usually was too drunk to say anything or to get off his fat ass. I liked Harp a lot better when he wasn't there.

Never met Bernie or any dog. There were two or three heavily tattooed bar keeps, one or more of whom always there (used to be pretty friendly with them but their names escape me now). They were the only employees I ever saw at the bar.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 04:52:52 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 09, 2014, 08:50:59 AM
When did you go to MU? I was buds with a Walter's kid on my floor -- (McCormick 4) freshman year (78-79). Always brought back a few cases when he returned to school after Thanksgiving, Xmas, spring breaks. I can't remember what it tasted like ... as if I cared. I was 18 and drank anything that said "beer" on it.

Same year there was a Walter living on my floor in Schroeder. I know the Walters all went to MU so it might have been a sib or cuz. Good guy and always had a stash of brew that was there for the taking. Like you I wasn't that particular back then and the price was right. Heading down the hall to his room was usually a better proposition than heading out into Ice Station Zebra to get a 6 of PBR.
Title: Re: Recruit Situation
Post by: keefe on April 09, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 09, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
The owner, a raging, admitted racist named Bernie who trained his dog to go nuts if a black person happened into the bar

Was Pakuni there to compare what happened if an Asian dude wandered in?
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