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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: LastWarrior on November 12, 2009, 10:28:00 PM
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I just got done watching his youtube video and this guy is a STUD. We've been missing exactly this type of player at MU for a long time. He'd be special here... come on down Tarik!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0B1PAv_E&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0B1PAv_E&feature=player_embedded)
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I just got done watching his youtube video and this guy is a STUD. We've been missing exactly this type of player at MU for a long time. He'd be special here... come on down Tarik!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0B1PAv_E&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7l0B1PAv_E&feature=player_embedded)
...wow. Dude is sick. I had to back up the vid when he did that behind the back thing. Would be incredible to see this guy in Blue and Gold.
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He says now he's deciding in the early signing period - so what he does int he next few days will be key....
come on Tarik - come to MU!
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where did you see that he is going to decide during this signing period. Thats a change of pace from what everyone has been saying
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nevermind found it http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/11/13/big-east-signing-day-roundup-part-ii/
this video of him is pretty sweet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQPN3Jcyx5k
The kid is athletic
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where did you see that he is going to decide during this signing period. Thats a change of pace from what everyone has been saying
http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/11/13/big-east-signing-day-roundup-part-ii/ (http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/11/13/big-east-signing-day-roundup-part-ii/)
- Tarik Black hopes to make a decision during the early signing period. “I’m actually planning on it,” Black said. He added that his finalists are Marquette, Memphis, Tennessee, Florida and Alabama. Black does not have a favorite, but he will make up his mind very soon. “I’m gonna have one real soon,” he said.
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He would be great in Blue and Gold :)
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"Justin Young had a blurb today saying that, with Memphis getting the commit from Tsafack yesterday that Memphis is likely out and he says "stock your backboards Marquette"."
Monday, November 9, 2009
Marquette Close to Landing Tarik Black?
It appears that Marquette is in a strong position to land 6-7 forward Tarik Black from Memphis Ridgeway High School.
I would have predicted that Black ended up at Memphis, but it now looks as if Marquette will take one away from the Tigers. Black is ranked #47 on the Rivals150 List for 2010.
His final list of schools also includes Tennessee, Memphis, Florida and Alabama.
at 6:38 AM
http://www.recruitingchronicles.com/2009/11/tarik-black-2010-memphis-florida.html
COME ON TARIK!
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But as of today, Memphis is feeling confident again, word is. They feel if he shows up for the Memphis game this weekend, then they have him.
Who knows - we want hinm here! Tarik - come to MU for the Black and Blue
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I watched an interview with him and it seems like he has a really good head on his shoulders too. This would be a huge get.
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Come on Tarik!!!!! We Want YOU!
(http://www.ranger25.com/Ranger25Photos/I%20WANT%20YOU.jpg)
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We sign tarik and we are the best team in the best conference in the country for the next 3-4 years...that translates into competing for Final fours every single year. Tarik just has to ask himself if he wants to go to an outstanding academic institution and compete at the highest levels in college basketball ...if the answer is "Yes" the choice is really pretty simple.
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He's got some smooth back-to-the-basket moves. I'm not sure we've had as polished of a post player come to MU in a while (maybe excepting Maymon, but I really haven't seen much of him yet). By this I mean, as polished when he arrives. Our big-guys always seem like projects.
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he is not what I would label a "big" he is a PF. Yes he has nice back to the asket moves but what one can do with his back to the basket in HS or even AAu is different than what one can do in the BE. I think he projects to a wonderfully athletic BE 4, one who with time working on skill and time in the weight room could have a Jeff Adrien type career or maybe more on the upside a career similar to Carlos Boozer or Corliss Williamson. Needs to get stronger but looks great for a HS senior
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Beyond the combination of size and ability he clearly has, getting Vander Blue out of Madison (after he had committed to the red menace), ,and Tarik Black out of Memphis of all places, in the same class would be...well I don't even know what the word for it is. Maybe we throw in a kid from NYC just for good measure. I think its hard to overstate big of a get this would be.
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We sign tarik and we are the best team in the best conference in the country for the next 3-4 years...that translates into competing for Final fours every single year. Tarik just has to ask himself if he wants to go to an outstanding academic institution and compete at the highest levels in college basketball ...if the answer is "Yes" the choice is really pretty simple.
I don't want to be a wet blanket, because I hope you are right...
But, doesn't Villanova, Georgetown, Pitt, etc. pull in talented classes every year as well?
I'm certainly optimistic, but saying "We sign tarik and we are the best team in the best conference in the country for the next 3-4 years" seems a little too bold.
There are a lot of other teams out there who are probably saying the same things, ya know?
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He would be great in Blue and Gold :)
How about "Black & Blue in the Big East"
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I don't want to be a wet blanket, because I hope you are right...
But, doesn't Villanova, Georgetown, Pitt, etc. pull in talented classes every year as well?
I'm certainly optimistic, but saying "We sign tarik and we are the best team in the best conference in the country for the next 3-4 years" seems a little too bold.
There are a lot of other teams out there who are probably saying the same things, ya know?
Shhhh, don't bother him with details. He operates in a vacuum as if nothing else is happening with the other teams.
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Shhhh, don't bother him with details. He operates in a vacuum as if nothing else is happening with the other teams.
Chicos that is not a fair comment, those other teams in the BE that have blockbuster recruiting classes don't have HOF caliber coaching like we do
Seriously, a talent like Tarik would let us be a contender for the BE title in a year or two. Perhaps that is what he meant.
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Daniel is right on this one. The posters on memphisroar are feeling pretty confident again even though many of the national guys think MU is in the lead. It feels like the winds are shifting south.
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http://memphis.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1015429
The Memphis Rivals writer still thinks he is going somewhere other than Memphis. We shall see. Here's to hoping he comes here.
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Chicos that is not a fair comment, those other teams in the BE that have blockbuster recruiting classes don't have HOF caliber coaching like we do
Seriously, a talent like Tarik would let us be a contender for the BE title in a year or two. Perhaps that is what he meant.
Actually the only school that will have as good a back to back recruitng classes as us would be Villanova. Pitt no, georgetown, no Loserville and Syracuse no. All have signed good classes but not as good as our two would be with the addition of Black.
Getting back to my point we would then be on par recruitng wise in conference with villanova only, seeing as how they went to the final 4 last year and are favored to win the conference this year my projection stands.
siding with chicos is pretty soft, no matter what i say he will differ i say white he says black. i guess we just see things differently with him being a vertically challenged Californian metrosexual, it's probably not surprising.
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Actually the only school that will have as good a back to back recruitng classes as us would be Villanova. Pitt no, georgetown, no Loserville and Syracuse no. All have signed good classes but not as good as our two would be with the addition of Black.
I'll have to take your word for it because I don't follow recruiting that closely.
Getting back to my point we would then be on par recruitng wise in conference with villanova only, seeing as how they went to the final 4 last year and are favored to win the conference this year my projection stands.
Well, I see where you are going with this, but college basketball is a combination of talent, player development and in-game coaching. Getting great recruiting classes are certainly a good sign, but there are still a lot of important things that have to happen before I think I can say that MU is a final 4 contender. I guess we shall see.
siding with chicos is pretty soft, no matter what i say he will differ i say white he says black. i guess we just see things differently with him being a vertically challenged Californian metrosexual, it's probably not surprising.
I'll let you guys hash this one out. Again.
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http://memphis.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1015429
The Memphis Rivals writer still thinks he is going somewhere other than Memphis. We shall see. Here's to hoping he comes here.
That's not the Memphis writer, that's the national guy for Rivals. Most of the national writers seem to think he's headed to Marquette after going on his official to Florida this weekend. Most of the Memphis insiders think he's skipping his visit to Florida and will commit to Memphis over the weekend.
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That's not the Memphis writer, that's the national guy for Rivals. Most of the national writers seem to think he's headed to Marquette after going on his official to Florida this weekend. Most of the Memphis insiders think he's skipping his visit to Florida and will commit to Memphis over the weekend.
I'm sorry...maybe I'm slow...
Tarik IS going to Florida this weekend? Or he DID go to Florida and now, after the visit, the national guys think he's coming to MU?
As for the whole final four debate...it's a little premature, but Buzz has definitely displayed the kind of recruiting necessary to consistently compete at a national level. The biggest question will be whether or not Buzz and his staff can develop the talent they're bringing in and can Buzz game plan and coach well enough in game situations to put us in a position to compete on the highest level?
Those two questions are tbd...but regardless, I'm excited as hell about the direction he's taking this program as of today.
Back to the actual topic of this posting...I've got my fingers and toes crossed on Black...GO MARQUETTE!
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He is scheduled to go to Florida this weekend for an official visit. Most of the national guys seem to think that visit doesn't matter and he's still headed to MU.
The Memphis insiders believe that he is going to cancel his visit to Florida and instead visit them this weekend to possibly commit.
One of the exact quotes was something telling Memphis fans to pay attention to their game tonight, and if they see Black there with the other recruits then he's committing to Memphis.
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I'm so jacked for the game tonight, this thread is just icing on the cake.
After watching/reading about him I like pretty much everything about this kid.
Huge upside, seems to have his head on his shoulders strong post player with a great hook.
I'd love to see him and Otule dominating the low post next year!
Go MU
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He is scheduled to go to Florida this weekend for an official visit. Most of the national guys seem to think that visit doesn't matter and he's still headed to MU.
The Memphis insiders believe that he is going to cancel his visit to Florida and instead visit them this weekend to possibly commit.
One of the exact quotes was something telling Memphis fans to pay attention to their game tonight, and if they see Black there with the other recruits then he's committing to Memphis.
Thanks for the clarification...
If that's the case, who the hell would have thought that we'd WANT him to go visit Florida this weekend?
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maybe he should do neither and stay home tonight and listen to the Marquette game on ESPN 540, maybe call into Homer and McIlvaine during half time ;D
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Can we get a check on Jamail "Eazy" Jones facebook to see if he knows something?
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Can we get a check on Jamail "Eazy" Jones facebook to see if he knows something?
You mean Mellow?
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You mean Mellow?
He wants to be called Mellow, but searching on Facebook he comes up as the only result when you type in Jamail Eazy Jones.
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There is a thread on there saying he is going to Florida and not the game tonight. Just posted about an hour ago, maybe 2. So that could be good news and hopefully it follows the path of a visit to FL and then a commitment to MU
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Cheebs I'm keeping my fingers-crossed on this one. I really feel TB brings a lot to the table.
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maybe he should do neither and stay home tonight and listen to the Marquette game on ESPN 540, maybe call into Homer and McIlvaine during half time ;D
Only if he asks why we never play Curry, Key & MacIlvaine together.
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I am really hoping he signs early for his sake and ours. It seems like the kid really has his choice of where he wants to play right now, and that the only thing that could hold him back is waiting till the spring when scholarship spots might limit his choices. It would also go a long way in determing where buzz should be placing his time recruiting the next few months as well. if we get Black awesome, but if we don't its fine, I just hope we have ample time to actively recruit another big. It would really hurt this class if he waits to spring and chooses not to pick marquette.
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Anyone have access to flight manifests? We need to verify Tarik is off to Florida.
Sunday or Monday we may realize that getting black and blue can be a great thing.
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On a football Saturday, Tarik can see first hand what kind of attention FL men's basketball gets at a football school.
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...wow. Dude is sick. I had to back up the vid when he did that behind the back thing. Would be incredible to see this guy in Blue and Gold.
In the beginning of the video, I initially thought to myself that he looked good but not overly athletic or with big hops. But then the dunks started and I realized he is just really long and thus he doesn't need to get way up to stuff it down. He would look awesome down low. Bring it home Buzz. Black and Blue...and Jones too! in 2010
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He is scheduled to go to Florida this weekend for an official visit. Most of the national guys seem to think that visit doesn't matter and he's still headed to MU.
The Memphis insiders believe that he is going to cancel his visit to Florida and instead visit them this weekend to possibly commit.
One of the exact quotes was something telling Memphis fans to pay attention to their game tonight, and if they see Black there with the other recruits then he's committing to Memphis.
BMA, just want to say I really appreciate all the info you provide on this board. I really dont' have the time or money to go the "insider" route, and the snippets you are able to provide are very well-informed, straightforward, and more than enough to keep me interested. Just wanted to give you some props. It's much appreciated.
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BMA, just want to say I really appreciate all the info you provide on this board. I really dont' have the time or money to go the "insider" route, and the snippets you are able to provide are very well-informed, straightforward, and more than enough to keep me interested. Just wanted to give you some props. It's much appreciated.
+1 bma is a true asset. Thanks.
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He says he has a 7'2" wingspan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmpLzTf2U-Y&feature=related
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He says he has a 7'2" wingspan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmpLzTf2U-Y&feature=related
7'2" wingspan...just think of the deflections!
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We sign tarik and we are the best team in the best conference in the country for the next 3-4 years...that translates into competing for Final fours every single year. Tarik just has to ask himself if he wants to go to an outstanding academic institution and compete at the highest levels in college basketball ...if the answer is "Yes" the choice is really pretty simple.
I guess you are assuming the rest of the conference stops recruiting.
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+100. Thanks BMA
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black and blue and mellow.
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black and blue and easy.
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just plain awesome!
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He says he has a 7'2" wingspan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmpLzTf2U-Y&feature=related
Can we steal Tarik AND the girl interviewing him??? :o
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Here's another update... Tarik is headed to UF for a visit this weekend. FYI... the Gators are playing at South Carolina this weekend. Sounds like we should know something by next Wednesday.
http://memphisroar.com/2009/11/tarik-black-to-visit-florida/ (http://memphisroar.com/2009/11/tarik-black-to-visit-florida/)
Tarik Black to Visit Florida
Tarik Black, a 6’8”, 230 lb post player from Ridgeway High School in Memphis, will not be at the University of Memphis Men’s basketball game tonight. Instead, Black is taking an official visit to see Coach Billy Donovan and the University of Florida. It is unclear what this means for his future with respect to the University of Memphis. Black did say that he would be making a decision during the early signing period, so we should know by next Wednesday when the period closes. Check back regularly with Memphis Roar for updates on this developing situation.
Evaluations of Tarik:
ESPN grades Tarik a 94 and had this to say about the big man.
“He is one of the most efficient players in this class, regardless of position. Black understands his role on the floor better than most big men and relishes in the fact he can defend, block shots and control the boards.”
Memphis Roar had this to say about Tarik’s performance against the #3 overall rated player in the 2010 class Jared Sullinger at the Real Deal in the Rock.
Tarik Black put on a interior defensive and rebounding clinic. Black’s offense is somewhat limited, but if he is close to the rim, consider it over. At some points, it appears as though Black would like to rip off the rim and take it back to Memphis with him.
Memphis Roar’s Clark Merriam on Tarik’s performance at the River City Showdown.
An inside presence that will never go unnoticed, Black turned heads and grabbed attention with his monstrous blocks and dunks, often providing a much needed spark for his Magic team. Black worked a great deal over the summer on his offense. Inserting an effective hook shot/leaner, Black makes use of his body and is becoming a great all-around power forward. Black also displayed a good awareness on the court, finding the open man, and passing out of double teams down low. One thing Black can continue to improve on is his post-up moves on offense. Black has shown great improvement and can continue to develop on offense.
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so thats good, right?
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Maybe Black is just looking for a free trip to FL to hang with Mellow for the weekend. Monteverde is only 90 miles from Gainesville. :)
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ahh...the recruiting dance. feels like prom night doesn't it?
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A few things...About a minute and a half into that highlight clip, I was wondering if he could dunk (or was he a Charles Oakley clone).
I like his game, but showed waaaaaaaay too much hesitation for a man his size in a high school arena. I like the ball fakes, but there comes a point when you have to power that ball up.
In Buzz we trust.
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A few things...About a minute and a half into that highlight clip, I was wondering if he could dunk (or was he a Charles Oakley clone).
I like his game, but showed waaaaaaaay too much hesitation for a man his size in a high school arena. I like the ball fakes, but there comes a point when you have to power that ball up.
In Buzz we trust.
Did you not watch the last 1.5 minutes of the clip? The dude has absolute hops and the ability to crush it home. What I found so impressive about the clip was his ability to finish around the rim with a variety of moves... skyhooks, lay-ups, turnaround jumpers, etc. Then the 2nd half of the clip showed his ability to catch and finish very strong with dunks. There's not a doubt in my mind that he'd get heavy minutes as a freshmen. He's a very impressive player and something that I have not seen from a MU big man in the past 20 years.
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so thats good, right?
Well, at least at the moment, heading to Florida rather than going to the Memphis game is better for us. Of course, any visit at this time, with decision time by Wednesday, could be the endgame. We will have to wait and see.
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Did you not watch the last 1.5 minutes of the clip? The dude has absolute hops and the ability to crush it home.
I did see the last minute and a half. Impressive yes, but would like to see one of those highlights include him going hard/drawing contact.
Don't get me wrong...the thought of having a talented big man on campus is hard to grasp.
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I was reading the Memphis board and one poster seems very confident that Tarik is heading to Memphis and could make a decision very soon. I don't know if he is someone with a lot of connections and has supplied them with a lot of information, like an IWB or bma for us. Hopefully it is more of a hunch than anything and not anything definitive. Would love to see him at Marquette.
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hopefully that would take away one of our competitors. I agree the video is awesome, but I think you see even more in the you-tube two items under the one you sent around.
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Just trying to connect the dots on some info via twitter...
I have a feeling we might know in a couple of hours.
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Memphis has scheduled a press conf for 6 ET tonight, to announce a major commitment for the 2010 class.
Heres hoping its Jelan Kendrick....
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Memphis has scheduled a press conf for 6 ET tonight, to announce a major commitment for the 2010 class.
Heres hoping its Jelan Kendrick....
Thanks for the info but isn't TB on an official recruiting visit to UF? It would be hard to believe that it was only be for an overnight or that he came home after one night and was ready to commit. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.
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I assume you are talking about the MemphisRoar feed.
http://twitter.com/Memphisroar
It says "Memphis has a recruit in town who will announce". That makes it seems like it wouldn't be Tarik since he's always in town.
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Could go different ways. The locals are very excite about it though.
BTW, correction, the announcement is set for 6:30 CT
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Maybe its just the actual signing of that center Hippotyle Tsafyck (sp?). He verbally committed, but did not sign yet.
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..from the wonderful Peabody Hotel in Memphis, TN. I only assume it's wonderful - I've seen the Duck Walk, or whatever its called, but only at the Orlando location.. I think there is also one in Arkansas.
Whoever it is committing, I hope he works the ducks into the announcement.
nyg - definitely not Hippotyle-related.
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Here's the memphis thread if anyone is interested in following along...
http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=399578&page=1 (http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=399578&page=1)
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One poster there said Tarik was flyng back tonight - that would seem like a short trip to Florida. Well, all we can do is wait. . .
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They said it would probably give them the number 1 recruiting class. I think Tarik would be a huge get, but is he big enough to push them ahead of Barnes and UNC? Hopefully it is Kenderick because I got very excited at the thought of Tarik joining our team.
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Daniel - I think they only have 48 hours.. it's always a quick trip.
Young Mellow is down with Jelan and if anyone wants to bet, I will go with Kendrick as the kid announcing in Memphis.
Tarik is a Warrior.
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Daniel - I think they only have 48 hours.. it's always a quick trip.
Young Mellow is down with Jelan and if anyone wants to bet, I will go with Kendrick as the kid announcing in Memphis.
Tarik is a Warrior.
Thanks JB - I thought TB had left yesterday to go to Florida - maybe that was wrong. I am hoping we hear an announcement soon from TB - that he is coming to Marquette :)
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Daniel - I think they only have 48 hours.. it's always a quick trip.
Young Mellow is down with Jelan and if anyone wants to bet, I will go with Kendrick as the kid announcing in Memphis.
Tarik is a Warrior.
If its Kendrick, then that is some recruiting class. Will Barton #1 SG, Joe Jackson, #4 PG, and Kendrick #2 SF and the 6ft 8 Hippo guy. Along with their current roster, wow....
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Thanks JB - I thought TB had left yesterday to go to Florida - maybe that was wrong. I am hoping we hear an announcement soon from TB - that he is coming to Marquette :)
Tarik Black did head down to Florida. I think he was 95% of the way to a decision pre-trip, and hopefully tomorrow or Monday it's 100%. Don't know if I can wait til Wednesday if it goes that long!!!
Kendrick is a huge signing for Memphis. He will not have a problem handling his biz, no matter what the Marshall, Eastern Carolina and Central Florida types throw at him.
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If it is JK, does anyone know what this does to their scholarship situation for 2010?
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Per this thread, it's Kendrick. wheewww...
http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=399617 (http://ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=399617)
That makes a pretty sick class... also probably the #1 class in the country. Hopefully they're full now!
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If it is JK, does anyone know what this does to their scholarship situation for 2010?
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2010&Sport=2&School=42
Hope this helps. Add another five star SF and that is ridiculous.
Very good for MU's status with Black though.
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One guy on their boards has a "source" implying that it could be Black + Kendrick...yikes.
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http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2010&Sport=2&School=42
Hope this helps. Add another five star SF and that is ridiculous.
Very good for MU's status with Black though.
According to a Memphis fan on the Rivals National Board, they're looking to sign 7 or possibly 8 players in this class. Sounds ridiculous but I guess you never know. With Kendrick, they'd have 6 players committed.
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Its Kendrick
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To clarify what GOMU1104 said, Wolken just tweet that Kendrick signed yesterday
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Memphis signing Kendrick does not help Marquette at all, in fact it probably hurts us. I happy that Kendrick is not going to Indiana. They were sure they had him. Now I need Selby to go elsewhere also.
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Kendrick and Joe Jackson (Memphis commit) both play on the same AAU team as Black, the Memphis Magic, so it does not necessarily help our chances as much as we think. Maybe he wants to branch out from those guys, got my fingers crossed. At least in a way we dodged a bullet and Black didn't commit to them tonight, but I was much more confident earlier today than I am now about Black coming to MU.
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Kendrick played this as close to the vest as anyone. Nobody knew what he was thinking. The fact that he actually signed YESTERDAY, and no one found out, just speaks to how close he kept this.
He was supposed to wait til spring...IU thought they had him...Georgetown thought they had him...and then out of seemingly nowhere, he commits to Memphis.
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Talk about a stacked AAU team...Jackson, Kendrick, Black, J. Jones...wow
Jones and Kendrick were teammates on HoopPlanet, which Kendrick left to play for the Memphis Magic.
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Jones and Kendrick were teammates on HoopPlanet, which Kendrick left to play for the Memphis Magic.
That was my mistake, I thought Jones joined him on the Magic.
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Wow - the Memphis folks think they will get Black too. Hope that is not the case and he comes to MU - come on TB!
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Kendrick played with Black. Momentum is with Pastner. My guess is that Black is at Memphis.
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Tarik is a Warrior.
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Wow - the Memphis folks think
That's simply not true.
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That's simply not true.
Hope you are correct :)
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One guy on their boards has a "source" implying that it could be Black + Kendrick...yikes.
I want all Memphis commits to look at themselves hard in the mirror and say, "I do not want to dominate the Big East (or insert other power conference). I want to dominate a mid-major CUSA."
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So what happened?
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I want all Memphis commits to look at themselves hard in the mirror and say, "I do not want to dominate the Big East (or insert other power conference). I want to dominate a mid-major CUSA."
I really don't think that even enters into the equation.
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I want all Memphis commits to look at themselves hard in the mirror and say, "I do not want to dominate the Big East (or insert other power conference). I want to dominate a mid-major CUSA."
To each his own...They will get to play with some amazing talents (each other), win alot of games, get high seeds, get alot of attention, etc...
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Yup, #1 or #2 seeds, which basically guarantee you the second weekend in the tourney.
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Memphis currently has 16 players on its roster, and only four of them are seniors. How do they bring back 12 players, then sign eight new ones? Is this a football team or a basketball team?
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At this point, it seems it would be pretty surprising if he comes to MU seeing that he could stay home on a stacked team. Memphis does have too many guys, but we've all seen how somehow the coaches make the numbers work out.
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Memphis currently has 16 players on its roster, and only four of them are seniors. How do they bring back 12 players, then sign eight new ones? Is this a football team or a basketball team?
Take a closer look.
Of the 16, 6 of them are walk ons. So that's only 10 scholarship players. They lose three to graduation, so they have 6 available scholarships to start with. Given that Angel Garcia's career may be over due to injury, and someone may decide to turn pro, 8 schollies is not out of the question.
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Hi there MU fans.
I must admit, it has been fun shadow reading your posts and comments about Memphis.
Whats going to be more fun is witnessing what shall transpire Tuesday of next week (possibly Wednesday, but no later than that) and checking you guys reaction.
BTW, the NCAA has imposed a rule were former high coaches cant use their players as a bargaining tool to land collegiate jobs. That sucks for you guys. ;)
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I want all Memphis commits to look at themselves hard in the mirror and say, "I do not want to dominate the Big East (or insert other power conference). I want to dominate a mid-major CUSA."
Memphis State is guaranteed a sweet 16 position every year. They storm through the cusa and get a 1,2,or 3 seed. They basically can walk to the sweet 16 and do even more with luck.
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Hi there MU fans.
I must admit, it has been fun shadow reading your posts and comments about Memphis.
Whats going to be more fun is witnessing what shall transpire Tuesday of next week (possibly Wednesday, but no later than that) and checking you guys reaction.
BTW, the NCAA has imposed a rule were former high coaches cant use their players as a bargaining tool to land collegiate jobs. That sucks for you guys. ;)
No matter what happens with the basketball, you can be proud of your stellar grammar. Amazing. Truly amazing. You may be slow, but I bet you can run fast. Talk to you Tuesday of 'next week' (or possibly Wednesday, but no later than that).
I'm sure you're enjoying your unemployed status, but if you want a gig to pick up a couple bucks, you'd fit in well as an interviewer at euroleague.net.. check it out, homeboy.
PS - good luck vs. Rice in your tough conference play this year - I hear they are tough.
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Memphis State is guaranteed a sweet 16 position every year. They storm through the cusa and get a 1,2,or 3 seed. They basically can walk to the sweet 16 and do even more with luck.
Sounds like skating through a season to me.
Hi there MU fans.
I must admit, it has been fun shadow reading your posts and comments about Memphis.
Whats going to be more fun is witnessing what shall transpire Tuesday of next week (possibly Wednesday, but no later than that) and checking you guys reaction.
BTW, the NCAA has imposed a rule were former high coaches cant use their players as a bargaining tool to land collegiate jobs. That sucks for you guys. Wink
Best of luck to you guys... I guess your veiled comments mean that Black's committing or that someone on Memphis staff was a former coach who helped land some recruit?
Whatever you say pally. Let's hope they're all academically eligible and Pastner (or assts) doesn't pull any stunts to *gasp* get Memphis State disqualified for the big dance. BTW, pray for a victory on Tuesday vs Kansas.
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If Tarik is set on earning a degree I'm assuming (and you know what happens when you do that) he's planing for a 3-4 year collage career unless he is so good he becomes a lotto pick after 2 years. Several of these kids going to Memphis look as if they maybe 1 and done so maybe, and this is pure speculation, Terik would like to compete in a competitive league with a group of young men he can play side by side with for 3+ years. It would kinda suck to have everyone who convinced you to go to a school take off after a year.
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Hi there MU fans.
I must admit, it has been fun shadow reading your posts and comments about Memphis.
Whats going to be more fun is witnessing what shall transpire Tuesday of next week (possibly Wednesday, but no later than that) and checking you guys reaction.
BTW, the NCAA has imposed a rule were former high coaches cant use their players as a bargaining tool to land collegiate jobs. That sucks for you guys. ;)
Do we really have Memphis fans here gloating? Maybe we have some of our fans on their board talking smack I don't know. I do know we have a Final Four this decade and Memphis doesn't. That's right... that supposed Final Four was vacated for being cheats. I imagine, though, the average Memphis fan really doesn't care. Whatever it takes I guess?
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I don't like leaving messages on other school's boards, and I don't like when they leaves theirs here. But I know we do it. But I really hate any smack, bragging posts either from our side on another board, or another board coming here.
This Memphis poster quoted above need to go chill. You guys are signing great players, and will continue to do so, So are we. Competition for these players is intense, so be it. Gloating and smack talk and inferring that other schools are pushing the rules is bs. I hate it.
Memphis: if you get Tarik, congrats to you. MU will continue to work hard to sign great kids, w/o the smack and inferences. Maturity and integrity are such a rare things these days, and common sense, is not so common.
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I get a kick out of the "smack" talk. I have no problem with fans giving each other crap. If a Memphis fan wants to come on here and brag about signing a good recruiting class he should feel free to do so. It may be his only chance as they really can't brag about their history, the fact that they continue to come up short in FedEx's pull to get them in a Div. 1 conference, never won a championship, had their final four taken away, etc. I like Buzz's recruiting, but the verdict is still out on whether or not he can coach. I'd suggest waiting to see what Pastner can do with his talent before you get too excited.
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Let him talk. Hey, Memphis already has a hellacious class signed. Pastner, like Buzz, is apparently a great recruiter. Memphis has a storied history. Recently, not one to be proud of, vacating the FF, being a really big fish in a really small pond, etc., but a storied history nonetheless. Icons among ethical coaches like Dana Kirk and Larry Finch. If Tarik Black signs with them, it will be good for them, but hardly the end of MU hoops. So let the jackasses bray. It is their nature.
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I think its pretty funny that a Memphis fan would come over and accuse us of dirty recruiting. Kind of like the Mafia accusing us of having unpaid parking fines. But sadly that is what has passed for normal down there so long with Cal and the recruiting circles they ran in that I'm sure this guy just thinks that his how the rest of the world does business.
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I think its pretty funny that a Memphis fan would come over and accuse us of dirty recruiting. Kind of like the Mafia accusing us of having unpaid parking fines. But sadly that is what has passed for normal down there so long with Cal and the recruiting circles they ran in that I'm sure this guy just thinks that his how the rest of the world does business.
Uh, Calipari was just the latest in a proud tradition...Dana Kirk, Larry Finch, dedicated boosters...
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Hopefully people will listen to what Buzz and the actual players say about his recruiting. He never negatively recruits and there is no evidence of that unlike many Badger fans thought he did with Blue. There is no foundation for anyone saying that Buzz was going to offere some high school coach a job at MU if Tarik Black signs.
I think that guy is doing a little bit of psychological projecting. As posts have mentioned, Memphis has not been the cleanest program in the country.
Black has a lot of great options in front of him. Come play right away in the Big East with a pretty stacked team of guards and swingmen, play in the SEC for a proven coach at FL, or play with his buddies close to home like Blue and J-May are kind of doing. It's admittedly hard for us MU fans or those guys over on the Memphis blog to see how a kid would not pick their program, but Black is looking at it from a whole other angle.
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Hopefully people will listen to what Buzz and the actual players say about his recruiting. He never negatively recruits and there is no evidence of that unlike many Badger fans thought he did with Blue. There is no foundation for anyone saying that Buzz was going to offere some high school coach a job at MU if Tarik Black signs.
I think that guy is doing a little bit of psychological projecting. As posts have mentioned, Memphis has not been the cleanest program in the country.
Black has a lot of great options in front of him. Come play right away in the Big East with a pretty stacked team of guards and swingmen, play in the SEC for a proven coach at FL, or play with his buddies close to home like Blue and J-May are kind of doing. It's admittedly hard for us MU fans or those guys over on the Memphis blog to see how a kid would not pick their program, but Black is looking at it from a whole other angle.
Personally, I could care less what any Memphis fan has to say about Marquette. We run a clean progam and the stench around their program over the years continues to liger. Maybe Pastner can clean it up.
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Everything I'm reading makes it sound like he's headed to Memphis. It's an amazing recruiting class for Pastner, and it will be interesting to see how well he can coach his talent.
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what can you possibly reading that indicates memphis ... or mu for that matter other than some yahoo's opinion?
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what can you possibly reading that indicates memphis ... or mu for that matter other than some yahoo's opinion?
You could start with the need for a Memphis presser on Monday, Twitter accounts, etc. I hope I'm wrong, but if I'm not at least Buzz will have finished second which makes him a stud in your eyes ?-(
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Well, a Memphis presser on Monday certainly can mean a Black signing - but they are involved with lots of other players too . . . but I agree that at least the rumors and indicators like the presser put some doubt about TB coming to MU - but again, who knows?
We don't.
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The message board over at Memphis had a title line that says that Black will sign on Tuesday. It does not say where he will sign, but rather that he will sign. People are taking it to mean that he will sign at Memphis because their board has a thread saying that. Had muscoop made a thread saying that Black will sign on Tuesday, then people might infer that he was coming here. Who knows where the Twitter accounts got their info from. The twitter guys could have been making that same inference.
Memphis may have a presser on Monday to announce all of their other guys. If they knew that they were going to sign another top 50 player, why not wait until Tuesday?
Black seems like a good, hardworking kid (based solely on his youtube interview). He seems like he has the character Buzz is looking for, not to mention the skill set. Hopefully he makes the right choice for himself and his family and all of this hoopla can be over for him. He sounded like he wanted to be patient and wait until spring, but all of this hype around his decision came about.
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The message board over at Memphis had a title line that says that Black will sign on Tuesday. It does not say where he will sign, but rather that he will sign. People are taking it to mean that he will sign at Memphis because their board has a thread saying that. Had muscoop made a thread saying that Black will sign on Tuesday, then people might infer that he was coming here. Who knows where the Twitter accounts got their info from. The twitter guys could have been making that same inference.
Memphis may have a presser on Monday to announce all of their other guys. If they knew that they were going to sign another top 50 player, why not wait until Tuesday?
Black seems like a good, hardworking kid (based solely on his youtube interview). He seems like he has the character Buzz is looking for, not to mention the skill set. Hopefully he makes the right choice for himself and his family and all of this hoopla can be over for him. He sounded like he wanted to be patient and wait until spring, but all of this hype around his decision came about.
I'm going off of this (http://twitter.com/Greg_Gaston) and a few other comments I've read. I hope this guy is wrong, and it sounds like he has been in the past, but Memphis seems very confident. We'll see.
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Why have a presser on Monday for a Tuesday signing? They can't talk about a verbal.
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Where do you see a Memphis presser scheduled for Monday?
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No matter the outcome of this, I consider it a minor victory for MU. The fact that by all accounts the decision of this kid, from Memphis, with his combination of size and ability, appears to have come down to Memphis and MU is borderline remarkable. When rumblings of his interest in MU first surfaced, I more or less blew it off as having no chance. Regardless of what he decides, it certainly seems that was not the case.
Obviously, players leave their home towns all the time, but in my opinion, should he choose MU, it will be one of the more remarkable signings in decades, even more so than Vander Blue, given where he comes from. That's why I say this is a small victory no matter what.
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should he choose MU, it will be one of the more remarkable signings in decades, even more so than Vander Blue,
I wouldn't go that far, but the trend is something to be excited about. In about 1.5 years under Buzz, we have had a bunch of top 50 recruits to come to campus (thinking back to that 5-star shooting guard who ended up choosing FL State) and we landed one in Vander Blue. This is in addition to our normal pace of having a few 4-star top-150 type players coming. That is pretty good progress if Buzz can keep that up and hopefully improve on it.
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I wouldn't go that far, but the trend is something to be excited about.
I base that comment primarily on geography and precedent. Blue was from Wisconsin/Madison, and Wes Matthews and Maymon had already blazed the trail of Memorial players spurning UW-Madison to attend MU. Getting a high quality player from Memphis' back yard is something that doesn't happen at MU, or any other school for that matter.
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Guys, tis been a wonderful Monday so far!
:)
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Guys, tis been a wonderful Monday so far!
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Yeah it has. I just put my replica Final Four ring on my desk at work ;D
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Yeah it has. I just put my replica Final Four ring on my desk at work ;D
+1
I believe our C-USA lurker said he was going to enjoy reading our reactions. Wow, I guess the "Good luck Tarik" comments in the "Black to Memphis" thread really made it worth his/her while.
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Hi there MU fans.
the NCAA has imposed a rule were former high coaches cant use their players as a bargaining tool to land collegiate jobs. That sucks for you guys. ;)
Hello there...
Question: Do players still have to take their own entrance exams? I think so.
Sucks for you guys.
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Guys, tis been a wonderful Monday so far!
:)
Why, did FedEx finally buy Memphis a real conference? I didn't see that news.
I read the Memphis board a bit this weekend. It's cute how you guys egg each other on to post some trash talking on other teams threads. Now run on back to your boyfriend and tell him the job is done.
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Was there any even remote foundation for the accusation that Buzz would keep a coaching job as a bargaining chip for a 4-star recruit's basketball coach to encourage him to look at high major who has playing time open at the PF/C position?
Or is it just that the people in Memphis could not understand how someone would consider going to another school so there had to be a conspiracy theory?
Great class by Memphis though. At least Louisville didn't get these kids I guess...
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Why, did FedEx finally buy Memphis a real conference? I didn't see that news.
I read the Memphis board a bit this weekend. It's cute how you guys egg each other on to post some trash talking on other teams threads. Now run on back to your boyfriend and tell him the job is done.
People from Memphis can read?
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Speaking of reading, perhaps you guys should work on your comprehension skills. Wes wanted an assistant job on the TIGERS bench... via Black.... Wes would allow Black to go to any other school w/o such demands. I know, I know... it's still too complicated for ya. ;D
Anywho, Let's Play Ball!
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BTW, the NCAA has imposed a rule were former high coaches cant use their players as a bargaining tool to land collegiate jobs. That sucks for you guys. ;)
Wes wanted an assistant job on the TIGERS bench... via Black.... Wes would allow Black to go to any other school w/o such demands. I know, I know... it's still too complicated for ya.
What is complicated is trying to read your incoherent posts. All I can get out of this is some guy named Wes is/was stoned.
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I think he's referring to world wide (watermelon juice?) Wes
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I think he's referring to world wide (watermelon juice?) Wes
No, Wes Hennig.
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No, Wes Hennig.
Oh,that wes. Lol. I guess it was too complicated for me.
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Speaking of reading, perhaps you guys should work on your comprehension skills. Wes wanted an assistant job on the TIGERS bench... via Black.... Wes would allow Black to go to any other school w/o such demands. I know, I know... it's still too complicated for ya. ;D
Anywho, Let's Play Ball!
Nice conference.
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Tarik who?
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Speaking of reading, perhaps you guys should work on your comprehension skills. Wes wanted an assistant job on the TIGERS bench... via Black.... Wes would allow Black to go to any other school w/o such demands. I know, I know... it's still too complicated for ya. ;D
Anywho, Let's Play Ball!
Hopefully we will get a chance to play Memphis at some point. The great thing about playing Memphis is if you do in fact lose the game you just have to wait until the infractions committee overturns the win at a later date. You win either way!
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Memphis could hold there own in the BEAST. Be interesting to see how they would have turned out had they came with us, depaul, and louisville.
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If they didn't have a dirty program we could have found out.
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I just hate the retrospective penalties. They are useless, as all of the benefits associated with exposure and indirect financial benefit have already hit.
I would much prefer to see corrupt programs (ie. everywhere Jon Cal has coached) punished prospectively with huge sanctions on the coach himself, prohibiting him from leaving a former school in shambles while he proceeds to rosier pastures. For the multiple infractions, a school like Memphis should get 2 years no post-season, and 1 year without ANY national TV exposure, including highlights. That sends a much stronger message than stripping away wins that already occurred.
With all that said, good luck Tarik, by all written accounts you seem like a good guy.
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I just hate the retrospective penalties. They are useless, as all of the benefits associated with exposure and indirect financial benefit have already hit.
I would much prefer to see corrupt programs (ie. everywhere Jon Cal has coached) punished prospectively with huge sanctions on the coach himself, prohibiting him from leaving a former school in shambles while he proceeds to rosier pastures. For the multiple infractions, a school like Memphis should get 2 years no post-season, and 1 year without ANY national TV exposure, including highlights. That sends a much stronger message than stripping away wins that already occurred.
With all that said, good luck Tarik, by all written accounts you seem like a good guy.
I agree for the most part. However, I believe in Memphis' case they had to forfeit nearly $700,000 to the NCAA (so at least they lost some of the financial benefits). I think they are appealing the money aspect.
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What really leaves a bad taste in my mouth is that they don't just suspend the COACH and AD from ANY NCAA event, and fine the pants off of them.
hit em where it hurts, their wallets and their egos.
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Wes Hennig? Help! who is that, one of TB's HS or AAU coaches?
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I just hate the retrospective penalties. They are useless, as all of the benefits associated with exposure and indirect financial benefit have already hit.
I would much prefer to see corrupt programs (ie. everywhere Jon Cal has coached) punished prospectively with huge sanctions on the coach himself, prohibiting him from leaving a former school in shambles while he proceeds to rosier pastures. For the multiple infractions, a school like Memphis should get 2 years no post-season, and 1 year without ANY national TV exposure, including highlights. That sends a much stronger message than stripping away wins that already occurred.
With all that said, good luck Tarik, by all written accounts you seem like a good guy.
I'd agree, and I think schools that hire coaches that have been found guilty of issues in the past should be warned that if issues persist they will be hit with greater sanctions. If you hire a cheat and then allow him to cheat...you should be done.
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Wes Hennig? Help! who is that, one of TB's HS or AAU coaches?
(Henning is the last name) - he is the coach at Ridgeway high school where Tarik goes.
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I find it hysterical that someone from Memphis would ever throw stones at ANY school in the country. A school that went 15 years wuithout having one of its basketball players get a degree? A school that purchased a brand new Cadillac for Dejuan Wagner, then hired Wagner's father as assistant coach to make Dejuan would attend the school? A school that has been dirty for three decades now? We can take hits from UW, Louisville, even Kentucky. But Memphis? God.
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Awesome video (although there doesn't seem to be much going on with the left hand) - would be what we were always looking for at the Ardmore - a sweet pick-up.
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This gets my vote for most confusing post of the year 2009.
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The MU in MUScoop doesn't stand for Memphis University...
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best of luck to Tarik. I guess getting an education wasn't part of his agenda.
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He could be the next Baskerville Holmes!
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I wish him the best but I also don't want to read about him anymore ... just like Taylor, Nick Williams, or Crean for that matter. He no longer matters to Marquette until we play them. I want to read about our future even if merely speculation.
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Ummmm last time I checked marquette_g,
The NCAA still has yet to provide any evidence that Rose actually cheated, only that he was deemed ineligible due to non-compliance (not answering inquiry letter sent to his Chicago residence while he <pay attention now> resided in Memphis during his collegiate career. Innocent until proven guilty used to be the American way.
Also I'd like to add this:
Corey Magette. Enough said....
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Looking at the storied history of Memphis violations, do you really expect ANYONE to believe that D-Rose was clean?
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CUSA - get real.
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Ummmm last time I checked marquette_g,
Also I'd like to add this:
Corey Magette. Enough said....
I am confused how Corey Magette is the hammer in this argument.
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C_USA:
Why are you here? To gloat about Black? congratulations - by all account the kid is a stud. Now, having said that:
Marquette is no longer in Conference USA, MU does not play Memphis on a yearly basis, and no one cares about Memphis here in Milwaukee. I understand somewhat why that G'Town fan, Hoyasincebirth, is here - at least that is Big East competition, but it is unfathomable to me why a Memphis fan is even on an MU forum.
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I am confused how Corey Magette is the hammer in this argument.
Research young fellow, research...
Ciao
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Research young fellow, research...
Ciao
Why would spend time researching a guy when you can't even figure out how to spell his name correctly?
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Research young fellow, research...
Ciao
Not quite the same situation.
Hasta luego.
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Also I'd like to add this:
Corey Magette. Enough said....
I guess what our friend from Memphis is saying is that since the NCAA let Duke slide for an alleged violation, they should have let Memphis slide too. Interesting that this isn't really a denial of the allegation. A tip for Memphis: when you hire a coach that has a history of cheating (and of getting final four appearances stripped) you won't get a lot of breaks from the NCAA.
I think they made a great hire with Pastner. Although others might be uninterested in Memphis, I am interested to see how Pastner does (and if he uses Memphis as a stepping stone).
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Actually he does have a valid argument with Maggette and the NCAA playing favorites with a program like Duke. That being said, Memphis' history may have played a bigger part in why they were so severely punished and a program like Duke that is seen as squeaky clean did not.
Here's a good article summarizing the issue from Sportsline: http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/5881996/16724605)
And a timeline I found at Yahoo Sports by Dan Wetzel
April 1997 to August 1997: Kansas City summer basketball coach Myron Piggie makes cash payments to high school player Corey Maggette totaling $2,000. The money comes from a revenue pool that includes donations to Piggie from professional sports agents Kevin Poston and Jerome Stanley.
Nov. 12, 1997: Maggette signs a national letter of intent with Duke.
October 1998 to March 1999: Maggette averages 10.6 points per game to help Duke (37-2) reach the national championship game, which Duke loses to Connecticut.
June 30, 1999: Maggette is selected 13th in the NBA draft.
April 13, 2000: A federal grand jury in Missouri hands down an 11-count indictment of Piggie, which details the payments to Maggette (along with players at three other schools). By NCAA statutes the payments compromise Maggette's amateur status. Maggette initially denies receiving any money.
April 18, 2000: The NCAA's Jane Jankowski says: "We will have to determine if Duke, in fact, had an ineligible player in the NCAA tournament. And, if so, what monies would have to be returned for use of an ineligible player."
May 23, 2000: Piggie works a plea bargain and admits making the payments.
July 12, 2000: Maggette comes clean and admits he received the cash from Piggie.
Spring 2001: Duke hands over all its information to the NCAA, according to John Burness, Duke's senior vice president for public affairs.
May 30, 2001: Piggie is sentenced to 37 months in federal prison for fraud.
January 2003: Piggie is paroled from federal prison in Arkansas.
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Look Memphis obviously has nothing to hide ?-(
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4668536
On a side note...your name CUSA-News, is well, lame. We all know that no real news comes out of that conference, and when it does they do all they can to hide it from the public.