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Wow Indiana
« on: December 10, 2011, 05:39:22 PM »
Their up by three with 2-3 minutes into the second half.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 06:07:22 PM »
When will they have the ceremony for the new banner in Assembly Hall? 

I'm sure TC will want to put the banner right between the 1981 and 1987 National Championship banners.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 06:27:51 PM »
WOW!!!  What an ending...
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »
Free throws boys.  Kentucky missed them at the end.  IU couldn't get shot off with 10 seconds, yet make a bomb three to win it.  Good for them......

BTW, Terrence Jones had 6 early turnovers and Calipari sits him for rest of game.........
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 06:30:50 PM »
That was an amazing ending and pretty cool to see for IND.  Plus I love to see an underdog take out KY>

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 06:31:17 PM »
Wow, big win, have to say, college basketball is better with Indiana relevant.....
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 06:32:15 PM »
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 10, 2011, 06:30:50 PM
That was an amazing ending and pretty cool to see for IND.  Plus I love to see an underdog take out KY>



Great game. Good win for IU. I didn't realize they were still undefeated. That might be the biggest jump from unranked in one week? Where do they go...top 15 for sure I'd guess.

Side note...they stole our big heads
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 06:33:16 PM »
Ahhh, Indiana's Super Bowl.

Indiana will really be dangerous when they switch from Adidas to Nike.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2011, 06:34:01 PM »
Quote from: marquette09 on December 10, 2011, 06:07:22 PM
When will they have the ceremony for the new banner in Assembly Hall? 

I'm sure TC will want to put the banner right between the 1981 and 1987 National Championship banners.

the hate gets old. I'm not an IU fan, and I don't care whether they win or lose any more than I do Purdue or Minnesota or Illinois. It was a great game. Let's just leave it at that
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 06:36:37 PM »
That was just unnatural carnal knowledgeing incredible. What an outstanding win for the kids first, and the program second.

College basketball needed an experience like this to make up for that Thug U-Xavier brawl earlier in the day.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2011, 06:46:36 PM »
Indiana shot 75% from three.   Huge win, but a tad fluky.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2011, 06:47:00 PM »
Quote from: Victor McCormick on December 10, 2011, 06:32:15 PM
Great game. Good win for IU. I didn't realize they were still undefeated. That might be the biggest jump from unranked in one week? Where do they go...top 15 for sure I'd guess.

Side note...they stole our big heads

Not Top 15.  Yes they beat the #1 team in the country, at home.  There best win prior to that was against NC State.  I'd say 18-22 range.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2011, 06:47:09 PM »
Courtesy of John Pudner, our roving reporter..

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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2011, 06:52:46 PM »
On a side note, I prefer our shade of powder blue jersey's and shoe's to that of Kentucky.  Those were ugly.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2011, 07:01:26 PM »
Quote from: marquette09 on December 10, 2011, 06:07:22 PM
When will they have the ceremony for the new banner in Assembly Hall? 

I'm sure TC will want to put the banner right between the 1981 and 1987 National Championship banners.

Beyond stupid and lame.  If I were to wager, they will likely hang a real banner (Final Four or National Title) before we do again.  They have it going big time there and they are stable with their conference, which is very important.  The Big Ten is the best conference in basketball this year which is the one thing that will hold IU back a bit this season, but next year they will be a top 10 program.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2011, 07:30:55 PM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 10, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
Beyond stupid and lame.  If I were to wager, they will likely hang a real banner (Final Four or National Title) before we do again.  They have it going big time there and they are stable with their conference, which is very important.  The Big Ten is the best conference in basketball this year which is the one thing that will hold IU back a bit this season, but next year they will be a top 10 program.

I understand the "if i had to place money on it, I would choose Indiana" - but aren't we being a little high on Indiana (and the Big 10) after one big win? You can pretty much throw that bet at me anytime and I'll take it, Indiana is one of the blue bloods and will always have a better possibility of making a FF or NC.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2011, 07:44:46 PM »
Quote from: Victor McCormick on December 10, 2011, 06:34:01 PM
the hate gets old. I'm not an IU fan, and I don't care whether they win or lose any more than I do Purdue or Minnesota or Illinois. It was a great game. Let's just leave it at that

For the record, I intend to have it both ways. I enjoy ripping Crean, and I enjoyed watching him beat Kentucky.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2011, 07:50:06 PM »
I hate Crean not Indiana...great win for the kids. Gotta love his postgame comments, said the players almost gave it away by shooting quick shots but the COACHES did a great job...
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2011, 07:50:19 PM »
Indiana gets a big win and Hoopaloop rears his head to:

1.) Bring up the year-old allegations
2.) Crow about Crean/the Big 10/11/12
3.) Trash the Big East (with inaccuracies)

Shocked he hasn't linked our JUCOs to the Xavier/Cincy brawl yet.

If it's not Chicos, it's the bastard love child of he and willie warrior.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2011, 07:51:35 PM »
This is gross...Wade uses a Blackberry.

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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2011, 07:52:18 PM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 10, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
Beyond stupid and lame.  If I were to wager, they will likely hang a real banner (Final Four or National Title) before we do again.  They have it going big time there and they are stable with their conference, which is very important.  The Big Ten is the best conference in basketball this year which is the one thing that will hold IU back a bit this season, but next year they will be a top 10 program.

You're a joke Chicos.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2011, 07:59:56 PM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 10, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
Beyond stupid and lame. 


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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2011, 08:51:06 PM »
Cream will never recover praise from me.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2011, 09:08:33 PM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 10, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
Beyond stupid and lame.  If I were to wager, they will likely hang a real banner (Final Four or National Title) before we do again.  They have it going big time there and they are stable with their conference, which is very important.  The Big Ten is the best conference in basketball this year which is the one thing that will hold IU back a bit this season, but next year they will be a top 10 program.

high praise from a Purdue grad.   ::)
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2011, 10:24:33 PM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 10, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
Beyond stupid and lame.  If I were to wager, they will likely hang a real banner (Final Four or National Title) before we do again.  They have it going big time there and they are stable with their conference, which is very important.  The Big Ten is the best conference in basketball this year which is the one thing that will hold IU back a bit this season, but next year they will be a top 10 program.

Shut up Chicos.  You were banned from this board.  No one wants you on this site nor wants to hear your lame crush for Tom Crean and Indiana.  Yes, it was a great win for Indiana.  But I will always be bitter towards Tom Crean and the way he left this program.  Please do us all a favor and never post on this board again.  We are sick and tired of your crap and do not need to hear how much you admire tan boy.  Take your man crush elsewhere b/c no one wants to hear it anymore.  You are a has been/never was love boy of Crean who never saw the court as a player but thinks he knows everything about basketball and I quite frankly am sick of your crap.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2011, 10:29:05 PM »
Good for Crean and IU.   I hated the way TC left MU and held that for a long time.  We are in a great place with Buzz Williams and it looks like Crean will start realizing his vision to rebuild IU from the toughest of starting points.   My son in college (Ohio State) was home for the weekend and we watched the ending of the game...it was what makes college athletics so much better than the pros in so many ways.  Anyway, I was sort of showing mixed emotions as Crean was celebrating and he looked at me and said:  "Dad, the guy was just following his dreams....why not celebrate that he is making them come true?"  Why not, indeed?

By the way, we were at the Allen Fieldhouse for KU vs. OSU today...talk about a raucous environment....wow.  

Great day for college hoops...and it is only December.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2011, 10:35:18 PM »
It should be interesting to see where the NCAA puts the MU-IU matchup in the tourney.  Pre-season, I thought it could possibly happen round one.  Maybe they'll have to wait until round 2.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2011, 10:38:38 PM »
Quote from: murobrob on December 10, 2011, 10:29:05 PM

Great day for college hoops...and it is only December.

Except for the huge fight at Xavier.

But anyway, Allen Fieldhouse is on my list of places where I need to see a game. 
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2011, 11:10:37 PM »
Quote from: marquette09 on December 10, 2011, 10:38:38 PM
Except for the huge fight at Xavier.

But anyway, Allen Fieldhouse is on my list of places where I need to see a game. 

That was horrible....except for the post-game speech by the cincinnati coach...I know there is another thread on it.

Allen Fieldhouse is sort of like a Lambeau Field of college hoops.   It only seats 16,000 and no tiers so the place is loud... I mean really loud.   They also have their hall of fame in the building which is very cool.   So much tradition at KU for hoops it is incredible.   Students and old fogies alike are up most of the game.    Almost every game is very loud as the place is really a barn, but, today was exceptional, even with Sullinger out.   If you ever have the chance...go.  It should be on college hoops fans bucket list.  If you do go, let me know and I will point you to some outstanding pre and post game places.

Since my son goes to OSU, I am hoping Marquette gets place in Columbus for the tourney's opening round this year...

Funniest part of the game today was watching Charlie Weiss promise at halftime that he would lead Kansas to national prominence in football....um...sure you will Charlie.   
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2011, 11:45:31 PM »
Keep this Indiana crap in the superbar.  I hope Crean dies of something sudden and horrible.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2011, 11:53:45 PM »
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 10, 2011, 11:45:31 PM
Keep this Indiana crap in the superbar.  I hope Crean dies of something sudden and horrible.

Really?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2011, 11:55:21 PM »
The guy has done an outstanding job rebuilding a program that was in absolute shambles when he got there. Atleast lets give him that. He still has his major flaws but I will atleast admit that he has done a very good job putting Indiana basketball back to some national attention. Hell they are about to be in the polls for the first time since like 07 this coming week.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2011, 12:00:06 AM »
Quote from: murobrob on December 10, 2011, 11:10:37 PM
Funniest part of the game today was watching Charlie Weiss promise at halftime that he would lead Kansas to national prominence in football....um...sure you will Charlie.

He couldn't lead ND to national prominence but he will with Kansas? Is he replacing Bill Self?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #33 on: December 11, 2011, 12:03:39 AM »
Quote from: murobrob on December 10, 2011, 11:10:37 PM

Allen Fieldhouse is sort of like a Lambeau Field of college hoops.   It only seats 16,000 and no tiers so the place is loud... I mean really loud.   They also have their hall of fame in the building which is very cool.   So much tradition at KU for hoops it is incredible.   Students and old fogies alike are up most of the game.    Almost every game is very loud as the place is really a barn, but, today was exceptional, even with Sullinger out.   If you ever have the chance...go.  It should be on college hoops fans bucket list.  If you do go, let me know and I will point you to some outstanding pre and post game places.

Since my son goes to OSU, I am hoping Marquette gets place in Columbus for the tourney's opening round this year...

Funniest part of the game today was watching Charlie Weiss promise at halftime that he would lead Kansas to national prominence in football....um...sure you will Charlie.   

My girlfriend went to Kansas, so I get the trickle-down benefit of attending the KU-Missouri game this February.  Can't wait.  Lawrence is a pretty fun town in general, but I'm sure it's even better on gamedays.

And as for the Charlie Weis hire, the gf says she's happy she gets to bring back the "KU Football: Our coach can eat your coach" t-shirt that she wore during the Mangino years.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #34 on: December 11, 2011, 12:08:26 AM »
agree superbar
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2011, 01:43:54 AM »
My sister sold her ticket for $60 bucks. Yikes.....
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2011, 09:38:52 AM »
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 10, 2011, 11:45:31 PM
Keep this Indiana crap in the superbar.  I hope Crean dies of something sudden and horrible.

Um, wow.
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« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2011, 10:19:11 AM »
On a related note, I am happy my desperate search to find a bookie yesterday was unsuccessful.  I wonder how many people were laying 3.5 with UK yesterday?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2011, 10:55:12 AM »
Not to stir the debate up, but Crean said it was the second biggest win of his career.
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2011, 11:18:01 AM »
Probably knocking off Tulsa, Western Michigan, or Kansas would be #1.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #40 on: December 11, 2011, 11:25:25 AM »
Quote from: MUDPT on December 11, 2011, 10:55:12 AM
Not to stir the debate up, but Crean said it was the second biggest win of his career.

I buy that.  Nothing wrong with that statement in my opinion.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2011, 11:51:20 AM »
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 10, 2011, 11:45:31 PM
Keep this Indiana crap in the superbar.  I hope Crean dies of something sudden and horrible.

I have never been so proud to be a graduate of Marquette University than reading this post.  Followed closely by Diaper, Jamailman and a few others.  So proud.   ::)
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2011, 11:59:19 AM »
Quote from: DiaperDandy on December 10, 2011, 10:24:33 PM
Shut up Chicos.  You were banned from this board.  No one wants you on this site nor wants to hear your lame crush for Tom Crean and Indiana.  Yes, it was a great win for Indiana.  But I will always be bitter towards Tom Crean and the way he left this program.  Please do us all a favor and never post on this board again.  We are sick and tired of your crap and do not need to hear how much you admire tan boy.  Take your man crush elsewhere b/c no one wants to hear it anymore.  You are a has been/never was love boy of Crean who never saw the court as a player but thinks he knows everything about basketball and I quite frankly am sick of your crap.

Take it up with Chicos then.   Stop accusing everyone that moved on years ago (with Crean's departure) and can appreciate a fantastic college basketball game of some pro Crean, pro IU, anti-Marquette agenda. Worse, stop accusing random people of being someone they aren't.

That was an incredible basketball game.  A number of our coaches left MU in a terrible fashion.  O'Neill, Majerus, Crean.  Crean gave us Buzz Williams, sweet uniforms, Wes Matthews, Steve Novak, Dwyane Wade, a Final Four.  He left as did O'Neill and Majerus.  We are doing just fine.  IU is doing really well now, which sucks from a Purdue perspective but it is hardly surprising they are successful.  Only an idiot or someone not thinking with their head but only through some lack of emotional development would think they wouldn't do well, but there are plenty of those people here and elsewhere.


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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2011, 12:08:01 PM »
Quote from: jhags15 on December 10, 2011, 07:50:06 PM
I hate Crean not Indiana...great win for the kids. Gotta love his postgame comments, said the players almost gave it away by shooting quick shots but the COACHES did a great job...

Your version of ESPN must be different than mine.  He said IU players tried to give it away, which at times they did.  He did applaud his coaches, as well as his players. 

video is here of interview   http://search.espn.go.com/results?searchString=indiana&dims=4294876477

"I love these players", "our team, there was never a time in those timeouts where they didn't believe we were going to win"

When Buzz says we almost gave it away is that any different than when another coach does?  Coaches get frustrated when players do not execute game plans.  Coach Caliprari has to be furious they didn't foul IU, especially when he told them to do that.  His post game comments were of frustration for that.  Coaches just calling it like it is.

Again, maybe your version of ESPN is different than mine but that is the interview I saw and apparently the one that was captured on ESPN.com also.
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« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2011, 12:10:35 PM »
Quote from: Z F-B on December 10, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
high praise from a Purdue grad.   ::)

 ::)  I'm a Bears fan also.  My belief is the Packers are the best team in the NFL and will be the favorites to win it next year also.  Is that not allowed to be said as a Bears fan?  The reality is that the Big Ten is the best conference this year.  The other reality is that IU has some crazy good kids coming in the next two years and they lose several players that aren't that good after this season.  They will be a top 10 team next year.  The Packers will be Super Bowl favorites.  High praise or just reality? 
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2011, 12:18:41 PM »
Quote from: MUDPT on December 11, 2011, 10:55:12 AM
Not to stir the debate up, but Crean said it was the second biggest win of his career.

If after coaching 13 years at storied Marquette and legendary Indiana his 2nd best win is a preconference, early December home game....well, that speaks volumes.

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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #46 on: December 11, 2011, 12:27:28 PM »
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 10, 2011, 06:36:37 PM
That was just fracking incredible. What an outstanding win for the kids first, and the program second.

College basketball needed an experience like this to make up for that Thug U-Xavier brawl earlier in the day.

Those kids aren't thugs, they're gangsters.  Didn't you listen to Holloway?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #47 on: December 11, 2011, 12:38:05 PM »
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #48 on: December 11, 2011, 12:47:15 PM »
Crean is a dbag. If it wasn't for DWade, this guy would be coaching 7th grade girl's basketball. No DWade and it likely means Crean doesn't make the tourney any of his 1st 6 years and never lasts at MU. Anybody who buys his line of bs is an idiot.

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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #49 on: December 11, 2011, 06:37:26 PM »
Quote from: ringout on December 11, 2011, 12:38:05 PM
HoopaLoop gets the Direct TV version of ESPN??

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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #50 on: December 11, 2011, 06:39:27 PM »
Quote from: jmayer1 on December 11, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
Crean is a dbag. If it wasn't for DWade, this guy would be coaching 7th grade girl's basketball. No DWade and it likely means Crean doesn't make the tourney any of his 1st 6 years and never lasts at MU. Anybody who buys his line of bs is an idiot.



I love it when our graduates call Dwyane Wade an idiot.  So much good will here.  We call Wade an idiot, we wish that Crean would die soon and harshly.  What a mature group we have here.  So proud.

http://twitter.com/#!/DwyaneWade/statuses/145648430889451521


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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2011, 06:40:23 PM »
Quote from: jmayer1 on December 11, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
Crean is a dbag. If it wasn't for DWade, this guy would be coaching 7th grade girl's basketball. No DWade and it likely means Crean doesn't make the tourney any of his 1st 6 years and never lasts at MU. Anybody who buys his line of bs is an idiot.


Indiana HS recruits are buying. 
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2011, 06:45:00 PM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 11, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
If after coaching 13 years at storied Marquette and legendary Indiana his 2nd best win is a preconference, early December home game....well, that speaks volumes.



He took over two programs and rebuilt one to a Final Four and looks like he is about to put the other one on very solid footing.  He will likely be around for a long time for you to rant about his lack of success.  You should be an AD somewhere.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2011, 06:45:42 PM »
Quote from: ringout on December 11, 2011, 06:40:23 PM
Indiana HS recruits are buying. 

So is that idiot, Dwyane Wade.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2011, 06:57:03 PM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 11, 2011, 06:45:42 PM
So is that idiot, Dwyane Wade.

Wade is showing loyalty to a former coach.  Nothing more or less.

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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2011, 07:25:29 PM »
Quote from: ringout on December 11, 2011, 06:57:03 PM
Wade is showing loyalty to a former coach.  Nothing more or less.

Mods.  When it walks like a Chicos, and smells like a Chicos?
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Oh please....just because he doesn't drink the anti-Crean koolaid...
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2011, 08:06:29 PM »
One of the things I agreed with chicos about was his attitude toward Crean.   I've never understood the collective inability to move on by a vocal minority.  
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2011, 07:26:30 AM »
I'm not enamored with Crean, but he's responsible for two great people coming to MU, Dwyane Wade and Buzz Williams (not to mention the 3 amigos, etc).  So he was good for MU.  When it comes to being a fan, you don't make rational decisions about who to root for, though, and despite myself I still want IU to lose every time they take the court.

All that being said, Indiana plays great defense.  I forgot how well his teams play D.  Buzz has him 6 ways to Sunday on the offensive end IMO, but Crean's team play good D.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2011, 08:20:05 AM »
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 11, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: ringout on December 11, 2011, 06:57:03 PM
Wade is showing loyalty to a former coach.  Nothing more or less.

Mods.  When it walks like a Chicos, and smells like a Chicos?
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Oh please....just because he doesn't drink the anti-Crean koolaid...

Sultan, didn't you make a similar comment/accusation over the past week or so?  Pot, meet kettle.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2011, 08:26:48 AM »
Quote from: Hoopaloop on December 11, 2011, 12:10:35 PM
::)  I'm a Bears fan also.  My belief is the Packers are the best team in the NFL and will be the favorites to win it next year also.  Is that not allowed to be said as a Bears fan?  The reality is that the Big Ten is the best conference this year.  The other reality is that IU has some crazy good kids coming in the next two years and they lose several players that aren't that good after this season.  They will be a top 10 team next year.  The Packers will be Super Bowl favorites.  High praise or just reality? 

Ziggy, being a Bears fan, won't like that either.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #60 on: December 12, 2011, 08:50:12 AM »
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 12, 2011, 07:26:30 AM


All that being said, Indiana plays great defense.  I forgot how well his teams play D.  Buzz has him 6 ways to Sunday on the offensive end IMO, but Crean's team play good D.

I usually agree with you CT, but we watched a different game on Saturday. Kentucky (great athletes, not great shooters) shot 55+% because they got layup after layup (especially the last 12-15 minutes). IU won because a) they were white hot from 3 (27 points on 15 shots), b) Kentucky couldn't make free throws and c) Kentucky didn't use the 2 free fouls they had to disrupt IU at the end of the game.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #61 on: December 12, 2011, 11:32:31 AM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 12, 2011, 08:50:12 AM
I usually agree with you CT, but we watched a different game on Saturday. Kentucky (great athletes, not great shooters) shot 55+% because they got layup after layup (especially the last 12-15 minutes). IU won because a) they were white hot from 3 (27 points on 15 shots), b) Kentucky couldn't make free throws and c) Kentucky didn't use the 2 free fouls they had to disrupt IU at the end of the game.

To be honest, I was doing some Christmas stuff for my church on Saturday and only saw the first half, and the IU D looked awfully good in the first half.  So I stand corrected.
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Re: Indiana up by one at the half.
« Reply #62 on: December 12, 2011, 03:01:12 PM »
Quote from: MUMac on December 12, 2011, 08:26:48 AM
Ziggy, being a Bears fan, won't like that either.

as much as i hate the packers, I do enjoy the Rodgers pack so must more than the farve packers teams.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #63 on: December 12, 2011, 06:18:21 PM »
Quote from: jmayer1 on December 11, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
Crean is a dbag. If it wasn't for DWade, this guy would be coaching 7th grade girl's basketball. No DWade and it likely means Crean doesn't make the tourney any of his 1st 6 years and never lasts at MU. Anybody who buys his line of bs is an idiot.



I just can't believe a true Marquette fan would parrot this bull$hit.

Merritt, Jackson, Diener, Novak, James, McNeal, Matthews, Hayward. Those guys weren't that f|_|cking awful yet all you people can do is claim Tom Crean only recruited one good player his entire coaching career. It's pathetic.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #64 on: December 12, 2011, 07:09:38 PM »
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 12, 2011, 06:18:21 PM
I just can't believe a true Marquette fan would parrot this bull$hit.

Merritt, Jackson, Diener, Novak, James, McNeal, Matthews, Hayward. Those guys weren't that f|_|cking awful yet all you people can do is claim Tom Crean only recruited one good player his entire coaching career. It's pathetic.

I don't think anyone is claiming TC "only recruited one good player his entire coaching career". That said, TC didn't make the tournament in years 1,2,5 and 6 at MU. I don't think it's unreasonable to opine that MU minus Wade also misses in years 3 and 4. Do you honestly think there would have been a year 7 under those circumstances?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #65 on: December 13, 2011, 09:14:43 AM »
I don't know if this has been posted or not, but this video shows multiple angles of the shot and reaction.

I hate Crean and IU, but this video just shows how awesome college basketball is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jsL6dRGD0&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #66 on: December 13, 2011, 09:19:10 AM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 12, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
I don't think anyone is claiming TC "only recruited one good player his entire coaching career". That said, TC didn't make the tournament in years 1,2,5 and 6 at MU. I don't think it's unreasonable to opine that MU minus Wade also misses in years 3 and 4. Do you honestly think there would have been a year 7 under those circumstances?

Tons of people have claimed Tom Crean was a one trick pony with that pony arriving from Robbins, IL.

As for his tenure, it's unclear. Cords and Wild firmly believed in his pedigree from Michigan State. If you travel back to the mindset of the early 2000s, forgetting all that has been accomplished since then in our program, I don't think its unreasonable to opine that Crean wouldn't have been fired.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2011, 09:13:26 PM »
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 13, 2011, 09:19:10 AM
Tons of people have claimed Tom Crean was a one trick pony with that pony arriving from Robbins, IL.

As for his tenure, it's unclear. Cords and Wild firmly believed in his pedigree from Michigan State. If you travel back to the mindset of the early 2000s, forgetting all that has been accomplished since then in our program, I don't think its unreasonable to opine that Crean wouldn't have been fired.

I agree that neither opinion is unreasonable. Furthermore, every MU fan is happy that we'll never know. Those two years with DWade were magical - and it had been a long time coming.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2011, 09:18:53 PM »
Quote from: DJO's Pump Fake on December 13, 2011, 09:14:43 AM
I don't know if this has been posted or not, but this video shows multiple angles of the shot and reaction.

I hate Crean and IU, but this video just shows how awesome college basketball is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jsL6dRGD0&feature=youtu.be


That is really cool...but what is up with the horrid music in the background?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #69 on: December 19, 2011, 12:52:44 AM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 12, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
I don't think anyone is claiming TC "only recruited one good player his entire coaching career". That said, TC didn't make the tournament in years 1,2,5 and 6 at MU. I don't think it's unreasonable to opine that MU minus Wade also misses in years 3 and 4. Do you honestly think there would have been a year 7 under those circumstances?

Never understood this line of thinking.  He did land Wade, so what is the point.  He came to Marquette, loved playing for Crean and to this day continues to say that.  Look at his tweets the last week about his former coach.  When people start saying what would have happened if Wade didn't come here they begin going into the abyss because that's a fairy tale game.  Wade did come here, that's part of Crean's legacy.  He got Wade to MU and deserves the spoils that go with it.  A good number of us that moved on years ago are damn glad that he did get Wade here and stay away from odd arguments that are based solely on emotion and personal animosity rather than facts.

Maybe you can find a comment that Jay Bilas didn't make and claim he did.   :D
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2011, 09:32:01 AM »
Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 13, 2011, 09:18:53 PM

That is really cool...but what is up with the horrid music in the background?

I think its this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8hdKnr7rpE&feature=related

The rapping is Spanish OD-esque, but that beat is kind of hot.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #71 on: December 20, 2011, 09:50:20 PM »
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 12, 2011, 07:09:38 PM
I don't think anyone is claiming TC "only recruited one good player his entire coaching career". That said, TC didn't make the tournament in years 1,2,5 and 6 at MU. I don't think it's unreasonable to opine that MU minus Wade also misses in years 3 and 4. Do you honestly think there would have been a year 7 under those circumstances?

Did you not read some of the posts in this very thread?
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #72 on: December 20, 2011, 11:16:13 PM »
Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on December 12, 2011, 06:18:21 PM
I just can't believe a true Marquette fan would parrot this bull$hit.

Merritt, Jackson, Diener, Novak, James, McNeal, Matthews, Hayward. Those guys weren't that f|_|cking awful yet all you people can do is claim Tom Crean only recruited one good player his entire coaching career. It's pathetic.

And with all these great players Crean won exactly 1 NCAA tournament game without Dwyane Wade in a now 13 year head coaching career.  The problem with Crean's recruiting was he landed 3 stars in 1 class (Big 3), and then about 1 good player every other year.  The depth of his recruiting was poor.  Thankfully Crean's assistant did recognize Wade as a talent and sold Crean on recruiting him...and thankfully we beat out Bradley for Wade's services as a Prop 48 since no BCS schools could sign him due to his Prop 48 status.  These are simply facts of his track record at MU...he definitely was an upgrade over Mike Deane, no doubt.
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2011, 07:02:27 PM »
Saw IU is dominating UMBC tonight. Decided to stop by realtimeRPI... their SOS is 229!! If they go sub-.500 in the big ten, do they still make the tournament? I'm not discounting the huge win against kentucky...
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Re: Wow Indiana
« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2011, 09:22:30 AM »
Quote from: socrplar125 on December 22, 2011, 07:02:27 PM
Saw IU is dominating UMBC tonight. Decided to stop by realtimeRPI... their SOS is 229!! If they go sub-.500 in the big ten, do they still make the tournament? I'm not discounting the huge win against kentucky...

Cincinnati did much the same thing last year, except of course the massive non-conference win over Kentucky, while being average in the Big East and it seemed they were a no-brainer.

If Indiana is 8-10 in conference but beats, say, Ohio State or Wisconsin, it could be tough to leave them out.
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