Oso planning to go pro
You guys are right, I was wrong. Finishing 7-10, with the 15th pick, not making a reasonable educated decision towards my young 1st round picks fifth year option, that’s definitely something I’d rather build on going into 2023.
Don’t lump me in with “you guys.” It doesn’t matter to me what you root for regarding your team, and I totally understand you hoping for better draft position. I was just saying that I, personally, have trouble pulling for losses for my team.
Tell me every Bears fan is thrilled with losses. Then go look at the reactions here after they smoked the Patriots or beat the 49ers. They weren't hoping for losses there. They were THRILLED! Even trying to troll Packers fans talking about how they're going to finish last in the NFC North.If the Bears were just dominated from start to finish in these games, sure you're happy to get a better draft pick. But if I'm thinking Fields is "a dude," I'm not celebrating that he can't sustain a drive (previous games) or throws picks in the last 2 possessions of games they're in position to win. Even if it drops me a couple draft picks (oh no!). If I'm thinking he's "a dude," I'm looking for him to go out and win those games. And I'm jacked up if he does, and disappointed if he's turning the ball over in situations where he can win the game.But that's just me. It's funny seeing Bears fans being thrilled about losses, while also talking about Shaka building a winning culture.
Has anyone "pulled for losses"? Or have people said a loss is fine in the context of a rebuild? And if Fields keeps developing so the franchise doesn't also have to rebuild the QB position, even better.
I think the Bears are in a great position to build something the next 2-4 years. I don't think a few spot differential in draft position and a 4th place schedule matter all that much in whether they succeed in capitlizing on that opportunity. The right QB-1, signing the right guys with all that cap-space and draft picks, and having the right GM/coach/locker-room-dynamic are orders of magnitude more important. See: Detroit Lions. The celebration of losing is bizarre to me. I can understand "oh well, we lost but at least ...." but instead I keep seeing "this is great. it's exactly the plan and what we want.".
Considering every time the Bears lose we have a couple Bears fans coming on here saying it’s a “great result,” I’d say it seems Bears fans are pulling for losses. Even when their dude threw picks in back to back possessions with a chance to win a football game.
It is a great result for a rebuild.Again, maybe they decide the "dude" isn't good enough and they can go get another QB in the draft.Such a weird thing that a knowledgeable sports fan like you can't imagine a scenario where getting as much draft capital as possible (and evaluating the future of the QB position) is good for a rebuild.
I do get that. What I don’t get is celebrating that the guy I claim has shown these incredible strides and is my future upon which I do rebuild throws interceptions in back to back drives with a chance to beat my rival. Because “great result! 4th place schedule and second draft pick!”
As I've now said multiple times, can't the rebuild potentially include a new QB?
Is any Bears fan on here bothered by either interception Fields threw today? St. Brown burns Fields on a bum route, and after getting torched most of the game, Alexander finally makes a play off St. Brown’s laziness. The other pick is in garbage time, bad decision, didn’t change the outcome of the game. If he keeps getting better and learns from it, that’s what any second year QB should do.
It can. But if Fields isn’t a dude, your higher draft pick this season really won’t matter much in the long run.
Higher draft picks give you the chance to take a highly rated QB, if you need it.So, ya, it would help in the long run.
This Packers fan wasn’t bothered with them either. I know I should be because fourth place schedules and higher draft picks were on the line, oh well.
As a Bears fan, the outrage of Packer fans about the Bears' strategy makes me more confident in the strategy. It would really suck if I felt the Bears were trying to be good, possibly SuperBowl good and were 5-8. That would be a nightmare.
But the Bears will not be taking a QB in the first round this year.
Yup, big win today. That 7-10 record is going straight to Guinness.
Having a top 4 pick in a strong qb year can equate to much more overall traded draft capital if teams are willing to bite hard for their guy. Weirdly obsessed with an opposing fan base’s buy in to a strategy though. I suppose the mediocrity I'm numb to is new and scary to others.
It's not a strong QB year. Bryce Young ought to be a lock for #1 to Houston, but after that there are big questions about Stroud and even bigger questions about Levis. They'll both get drafted too high, but I don't see any team mortgaging the future to move up a few spots for them.As for the Bears, no, they're not trying to lose. Nobody in the NFL tries to lose. They'll accept losses as part of the rebuilding process, and are happy to deal older players and expiring contracts as part of that process, but that's not the same as trying to lose. If they were trying to lose, Fields would not have played yesterday.