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No one is saying that. Just that we shouldn't continue to whitewash American history.
So again, a bunch of foreign businessmen held a monarch at gunpoint and forced him to sign a constitution that transferred all of the voting rights away from native Hawaiians to the foreign plantation owners. But its okay because it protected American interests over European interests.That sounds like the same garbage argument as "Slavery was actually great for black people, if we didn't do it, they would be stuck in Africa right now!"
Gosh, we better give Hawaii back, and while we are at it, we should give back North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, and the Ohio Valley. I had two Pink Ladies yesterday. Nice and tart.
Remember when Juan got a free ticket to a Brewers game? We need to shut the bball program down and cleanse the history books, stat
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Abe Lincoln is best remembered for prosecuting the Civil War due to the illicit free sporting tickets Jeff Davis and Rob Lee secured.
Hundreds of those treasonous pieces of garbage are buried in Arlington National Cemetery. How many of them were charged, convicted and executed? Let's do it 162 years later - sounds fair to me!
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Breakfast Crunchwrap, bacon. Cinnabon for the side.They have a special morning sauce, but I eat while driving. No sauce opportunity.
Well now I know what I'm getting for breakfast on my drive in tomorrow.
I remember the scenes. I have a bond with the men I have fought fires with for these 27 years. I get that part of it. I truly do. Here is where I strongly disagree. There is no way to get around the fact that the confederacy attacked and tried to dissolve the USA through secession. Declaring war against the USA is the constitutional definition of treason. By your reasoning, we should have statues of others who have attacked the USA because they bonded with their fellow soldiers. We should put up statues of German, Japanese, Iraqi soldiers who fought against the USA because it wasn't really about ideology for them. We should remember the confederacy. There should be museums about it, like the Holocaust museum, that really gets deeply into the story, the history, the context, that pulls no punches describing the mindset of the confederacy, both from a state's rights perspective, as well as from a slavery perspective. But these statues should not be in the public square. Which is why I would never support taking down the statues of the founding fathers. I think that is a red herring of an argument. Our founding fathers were flawed individuals, like the rest of us. It is unfortunate that they kept slaves and compromised on the issue when writing constitution. But their goal was to create this country. The goal of the leaders of the confederacy was to destroy it.
I believe it is far too simple to distill the American Civil War down to the collective treason of 11 states over just slavery. (Remember, too, that MD, MO, and KY would have left were it not for Federal garrisoning and the suspending Habeus Corpus.) Without the south, and South Carolina in particular, there is no American Revolution and we would likely be a colonial possession of the UK through this day. (British policy towards its later dominion possessions was greatly altered by the shock of the American UDI; the UK recognized that there needed to be a middle course relationship with its dominions which were largely white/Anglo. For an excellent insight I highly recommend David Cannadine's Ornamentalism: How the British Saw Their Empire.)I have said before that the Union which emerged from the American UDI and subsequent conflict was far from perfect. So flawed was the Union that the Civil War was almost inevitable. Because of compromises made in the 18th Century by the Continental Congress and under the Articles of Confederation the secessionists genuinely believed there was legal basis for withdrawing from the Union. And frankly, they are not actually wrong. Fact is, Lincoln maintained the Union through armed force. There was a reason he suspended Habeus Corpus.To blithely categorize confederates as traitors is to trivialize a very complex problem.
I've read books espousing that point of view. It has always felt like desperate attempts to hide the most basic, unavoidable, underlying fact. They declared war on the USA, tried to secede, to preserve slavery. The rationalizations are just wordy attempts to assuage guilty consciences and deflect from an uncomfortable truth. To me, Keefe, it IS that simple.
LOL. OK. I guess if you want to redefine treason. Statues still shouldn't be around though. They meant something sinister when they were erected. They mean something sinister now.To blithely write that off trivializes a pretty straight-forward issue.
One of the most offensive weapons employed by ideologues is banning free speech.
That will be really great point...when free speech is banned.