Oso planning to go pro
Lefties, what do you think the best path is from today?I feel we’re just delaying things. I understand the things we probably need, but no promise as to when they’ll come. These past couple of weeks have told me (talking not just fed, but state & local levels) that the current approach is “fu(k, we need time to figure this out. Please stay home so it doesn’t get crazy wild super fast”. I don’t see answers/plans.. just buying time. Maybe a weather plan as well, which is scary from a longer term view. Earth is done. #LastDaysBut curious if the lefties on here have thoughts on what should be done at THIS point in time. (Aside from “be nicer in press conferences, etc)
Two words: Massive Testing
As I said in the other thread, they're only killing their own.
So, no current plan as of today. Great
Guns 'n God, baby. Guns 'n God.
The security blankets of the weak and ignorant.
The strong and smart prefer cocaine and hookers.
I'd rather see a test to see if you've already had it. And a vaccine but an antibody test first.
But we can’t currently do that, yes? Why not and when can we? If you can get it more than once, does it help?
Well, Ners, you're not blaming Wojo, so I guess that's progress!How should President Pandemic have handled things differently, you asked ... How about not forcing states to bid against each other and the federal government for PPE and ventilators?How about not denying aid and equipment to states whose governors he doesn't like?How about not letting maintenance contracts on life-saving equipment lapse in 2018 and not dismantling the NSC's global health security office that same year?How about not lying to the American public dozens (if not hundreds) of times about the severity of the problem? Those lies were backed up by endless lies from his embarrassingly cloying Fox News cohorts, insuring that millions upon millions of gullible people would totally dismiss the coming pandemic.How about not letting his red-state buddies keep beaches and churches open to serve as COVID-19 incubators?How about not pushing his experts aside at his press conferences and then contradicting what they said, giving Americans a false sense of security?How about educating himself as to how pandemics spread and not pretending we'd be down to "close to zero" cases "within days"?Having listened to his experts (which he didn't) and educating himself (which he didn't), how about stockpiling the equipment we would need to survive the pandemic without so much loss of life?How about, instead of going to rallies and getting his easily conned followers into a lather over the Dem "hoax," he had been honest with them instead? Maybe doing so would have convinced the deniers that this thing was serious. Maybe had they been led properly by their emperor, they would have paid more attention to social-distancing rules and other strong recommendations.Once it was here and infecting people, how about getting extremely proactive by ensuring adequate PPE supplies, convincing governors (especially those friendly to him) to shut down their states, etc.How about putting competent people, preferably those not married to his daughter, in charge of the effort?How about taking even a smidge of responsibility for any of this?How about not patting himself on the back if "only" 100K die?Etc, etc, etc ... as discussed many times earlier in this thread.I made the joke about Wojo to start this post, Ners, but I do find it funny that you are ever willing to hold a basketball coach accountable for failings on his watch -- so willing that you'll go on and on and on until you get yourself banned multiple times. But you are not willing to hold the president of the United States accountable for failings on his watch.
Your list sounds like a list of Huff Post/MSNBC/CNN/WashPost/NYTimes talking points.
Considering China lied extensively about the severity of this, and they were the earliest data point - why would our government have spent billions of dollars on PPE and Ventilators, when to this day there are a reported 82,000 cases in China, a country 4x the size of the U.S., and only 3,000 deaths.The World Health Organization didn't claim this as a public health emergency until January 30th. We had ZERO context around how contagious and how fast this was spreading until it hit Italy/Spain
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/americans-are-paying-the-price-for-trumps-failures/609532/Not behind a paywall.
Considering China lied extensively about the severity of this, and they were the earliest data point - why would our government have spent billions of dollars on PPE and Ventilators, when to this day there are a reported 82,000 cases in China, a country 4x the size of the U.S., and only 3,000 deaths.The World Health Organization didn't claim this as a public health emergency until January 30th. We had ZERO context around how contagious and how fast this was spreading until it hit Italy/SpainI was surprised to learn that the U.S. is NOT the Number 1 international travel destination, but that the top 5 are France, Spain, US, China, Italy. Take a look at COVID cases/deaths in those countries, notice one is not like the other?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankingsNo surprise these European countries also struggled due to large international travel. However, I would surmise that the travel between China and the US, greatly exceeds that of China to Italy, Spain, France.Considering Italy has 60 million people, France, 66 million, and Spain 46 million - I would say our country at 330 million is doing quite well as it relates to deaths - especially considering we had an estimated 12,700 deaths from the Swine Flu of 2009, which had a miniscule mortality rate of .0002https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates/April_March_13.htmThe current global mortality rate of Covid 19 is 5.8%https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Guess those leaders of Europe sure suck too. And why would Trump take any responsibility for a pandemic that has struck 184 countries? Your list sounds like a list of Huff Post/MSNBC/CNN/WashPost/NYTimes talking points. Go ahead and link the sources to your above "facts."