Kolek planning to go pro
Jay Whitehead > Jimmy Mac for the 2nd team, especially if the NBA seems to be included. Now if the best player-advantaged NBA contract is the criteria, then Mac is first team all by himself.
Tom Crean's mission is complete: George Thompson was left off MU's All-time Team.The Godfather of Marquette Basketball was was left off MU's All-time Team.The true scoring champion was left off MU's All-time Team.It's a sad day for Scoop, a sad day for #mubb.
These are the types of lines that gets people to roll their eyes about the past.. Markus has more points and more points per game. In what way is George Thompson the "true scoring champion?"
I don't think you can call Thompson the true scoring champion. Howard in three years scored more, and then if you normalize the 3pt makes for 2pts because Thompson didn't have a 3pt line then Howard ends up with 1,999pts. Thompson was a damn good player but to call still call him the true scoring champ is a stretch.
Jay Whitehead > Jimmy Mac for the 2nd team
Reasonable, and probably right.Is this blog post the one and only, judge and jury "MU All-Time Team"? It's some guy on the interwebs giving his opinion. Unless you meant that as teal-less teal. If so, good job.
not even a mention of Hutch? SMH.
TAMUI do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.
George did not have the shot clock either which limited possessions. This is what happens when you compare athletes who play under different rules, impossible to say who is better, all-time, top 15 or whatever. Yes, I'm an old-timer and lived seeing all the players except Kojis and they're all pretty great.I just wonder will MU have a player in the next 10-15 years that we will be arguing about being an "all-time" great.
Being one of the old codgers, who saw most of the guys Cracked Sidewalks listed play, geez, folks, you can do better than that.Here's my list for comparison:The Butch and Bo Show -- You can't have a Greatest Ever list without these guys. Pure and simple. They got these guys right.Dean Meminger -- They got Dean right too.Maurice Lucas -- The catalyst behind the 1974 National Runner-up Team. Lucas left after 1974 and, while the 1974-1975 team was good, if Lucas had stayed another year, we might have won the Natty that year. He was THAT Good.Jim Chones -- Don't kid youself. This guy was among the best ever to don a Warrior uniform. Don't believe me? Look what happened in 1972 after he left for the pros. We were on a collision course with UCLA for a Natty, being undefeated before Chones left. The Saturday after he was gone, we lost 70-49 to Detroit. To Detroit, forgodssake. We made the tournament that year but did not get out of the regional semifinal. Retire the man's jersey, will you?Dwyane Wade -- OK, this guy was with us for only slightly more time than Chones and yet many think of him as the greatest Warrior ever. Darn, he was good. His pro career was the best of any Warrior ever. That Kentucky game will live forever in Warrior history. Is he better than Meminger or Lee? If he had brought us a natty, maybe. But he didn't.Beyond these six, I'd list next five as follows: -- Earl Tatum -- Lloyd Walton -- Jeral McNeal -- George Thompson -- He put the program on the map and probably should be in the Top group. -- Don Kojis
Yep, he sure did. I remember how George would, after securing a rebound, hold the ball with his elbows extended and swung them vigorously back and forth on his way down, just in case a foolish defender tried to take it from him.
Dwyane Wade -- OK, this guy was with us for only slightly more time than Chones and yet many think of him as the greatest Warrior ever. Darn, he was good. His pro career was the best of any Warrior ever. That Kentucky game will live forever in Warrior history. Is he better than Meminger or Lee? If he had brought us a natty, maybe. But he didn't.
Dwyane Wade is a top 25 basketball player of all time. Top 40 at the absolute worst. I don't see any reasonable argument to put Wade behind Lee, Meminger, or any other MU alum for that matter.
Who's on your all cool team Scoop Snoop?Wade Meminger Thompson LucasChonesI'm just taking a guess.Perhaps Sam Worthen?
1977 NCAA Champions1970 NIT ChampionsThere is your argument. Please note that the NIT back then was a bigger deal than it is today. There were only 24 teams in the NCAA back then. These are the two biggest moments in Marquette Athletic history.Brother Snoop, the Captain of the "all Cool" Team would be Bob Lackey, pure and simple. My favorite Warrior of all time.
1977 NCAA Champions1970 NIT ChampionsThere is your argument. Please note that the NIT back then was a bigger deal than it is today. There were only 24 teams in the NCAA back then. These are the two biggest moments in Marquette Athletic history.
Yes the NIT was considerably better back then. No, it is not the second most impressive feat in school history when the field was as follows:Army: UnrankedCincy: 19Duke: unrankedDuquesne: UnrankedGeorgetown: UnrankedGeorgia Tech: UnrankedLSU: unrankedLouisville: unrankedManhattan: unrankedMarquette: 9Massachusetts:unrankedMiami (OH): unrankedUNC: unrankedOklahoma: unrankedSJU: unrankedUtah: UnrankedThe fact that the NIT was considerably better has gotten way overblown in older scoopers heads to the level that people are thinking it was on par with the NCAA at the time.
Meminger's NIT championship is better than Wade's Final Four? I don't buy that.Lee won one more NCAAT game in 1977 than Wade did in 2003 while being surrounded by better teammates. I don't think that makes up for Wade being a significantly better player than Lee.Lee/Meminger are first ballot MU hall of famers. Wade is a first ballot hall of famer.