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What is "white culture"?
@ tamuSo if it's a bad thing to be proud to be white, why isn't it bad to say someone is proud to be black, or Asian, or native American? They have just as much if not more differences in culture than Irish or Italians. Also many people of each of these races committed atrocities. If you include Japanese internment camps as white atrocities, surely you should have Japanese pride or Chinese pride as straight evil.
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A couple of things.1. When did I say it was bad to be proud to be white? I think it is fine if you are (depending on the reason why), I just also recognize the impact that it could have an other people if you don't explain why you are proud.2. The difference with saying "proud to be black" or "proud to be asian" in America is that those races are marginalized. Our society views minorities as less thans. Saying they're proud is a way to counteract that marginalization. 3. You mixed up race and ethnicity. Japanese and Chinese are both ethnicities. I don't think there's any problem with someone saying they are proud to be American (or Irish, Italian, Jewish, Armenian....)I guess I go back to the question I had for Mr. Dekker. Why is he proud to be white? Why are you proud to be white? I don't think its necessarily a bad thing, I just personally can't think of any reason why I would be proud to be white. I am proud to be American, proud to be Irish, proud to be Christian....I just can't think of anything that makes me proud to be white.I'm curious about this too. I'm open to learning about it, but as a white person I have no idea what it is other thanand jokes of this nature. Again, I can tell you all about my American culture, my Irish culture, and my Christian culture. I just have no idea what my white culture is
Just another quick one. If you don't know what white culture is, what is black culture? A Sudanese is very different then a Ugandan but we don't seem to make that distinction in regards to ethnicity vs race. This is the problem I see with American racial issues, it's a very one way street.
Well in the United States, we often use "black" and "African-american" interchangeably. This is technically incorrect because black is a race and African-american is an ethnicity but it is a reality of our society. So when some one is saying "black culture" they actually mean "african-american culture." Which would be the same as me talking about my Irish culture. It's unfortunate because I do think it causes confusion. Because as you point out Ugandan culture, Sudanese culture, African-american culture, Haitian culture, etc are all very different. You say we "don't make that distinction" and I would agree, white people often don't make that distinction. But in my experience people of color almost always make that distinction.It seems like you are very concerned about what other races are doing. "If they can say they're proud to be asian than I can be proud to be white" or "there is black culture so then I must have white culture." Frankly, I don't really care what all the other races are doing. Just because something works for others doesn't mean it will work for me.I am very open to being proud of being white and learning about white culture. I am all about self pride. I am very proud to be American and will tell others so even if there are parts of America and its past that I don't approve of. I just don't personally know of any reason to be proud to be white or what white culture is.So I'll ask again, why are you proud to be white? And what is white culture?
I would have to say that white culture is American white culture, that is completely separate from Irish, English, or italian culture.
You can now add immigrant children camps to that list.
no you can't! i'm not going to get in to the morality of this, but the japanese-americans were rightly or wrongly placed in to these camps during world war II based on the safety and what is best for our country at the time. i'm sure their was a punitive measure as well. many probably believe it was punitive first, then what is best for our country the illegal-immigrant children are not citizens of this country. they have come here and entered illegally. try doing what they did in canada or mexico for that matter. it is the illegal immigrant parents who bring their illegal immigrant children into this and then force the long arm of the law to enforce what they have and put all of them into a one size fits all. then comes the faux outrage...unless ya'll remember elian gonzalez our laws regarding this are so lucy-goosey and need to be changed
no you can't!
I don't view Sam Dekker as a racist. I think this is an example of a conversation that never should have been made public. Most of us white guys at some point have had conversations with non-white friends where they explain to us why there is a difference between white pride and black pride. Or taken us with them to a car dealership and watched the salesman step around them and come talk to you, even though they are looking to buy a car and you're not. Gone out to lunch with them and seen the hostess completely ignore them and talk to you. A conversation where white privilege is explained to you by a non-white. Sam made the youthful mistake of engaging in this conversation via social media. Instead of him having a heart to heart with Bronson over a beer with no record except in their hearts, he did it in front of everyone and got called on it. A curse of the modern age and social media. Sam's only crime is bro ignorance. Being a bro-flake. Hopefully, he emerges from this wiser and more prudent about what he puts on social meda.