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I agree, but would like to se the 18+ number get closer to 70% vaccinated (currently 57%) and also likely quite a few 12+ will be able to have shot(s) by July 1. I'd like to be "done" with everything today, but just because some people have had shots for months, doesn't mean that we shouldn't allow the full gambit to get in for their shots. It took a 3-4 months to get vaccines available to all the 65+ folks, 18-45 have only had it available for a month or so. It's a process and I'm willing to respect that.
Pa, dat tyme iz now, hey?
So I just found out that one of the leading researchers on the rona and the vaccines is a UW doc that has a kid in my kid's class.He was quoted in a news story saying that the first shot gets your immune system warmed up, but the 2nd shot is what will protect you 1) fully and 2) from the variants. (Paraphrasing)He's also a big believer in the safety of the Pfizer for 12-16 year olds. His 12 year old is getting his shot this week on the news to help move the needle on getting that age group vaxxed.
Yes, what they did was illegal.https://www.govtech.com/health/florida-gov-desantis-signs-bill-banning-vaccine-passportsGov. Ron DeSantis signed a bill into law that prohibits businesses and government agencies in the state from asking people for proof — digital passport or otherwise — of a COVID-19 vaccination.DeSantis on April 2 issued an executive order blocking COVID-19 passports, which he said would create "huge" privacy issues that could result in people handing over medical information to a "big corporation." The law now makes the executive order permanent.But yeah, great thing Florida is open. Nothing bad happened.Florida had more new COVID-19 cases just in *schools* over the last 7 days than most states had across their entire population.Nearly 3,700 this week in K12 cases alone.Total new cases for all of Florida7 days: 27,125.Rank in country: #51 (1 is best- 51 is worst)
While I generally agree Rocky and would absolutely like the numbers to go up, my hurdle has long been the opportunity to get vaccinated. 60 days ago we all still necessarily had a hand in protecting the population because vax distribution was quite limited. That said, I have little sympathy for the 'when I get around to it' crowd. So take July 4th for example. If the guidance is 'only small groups because we need to protect the unvaccinated', I'll ignore it. At some point in the very short term, the unvaccinated must become 100% responsible for their own health decisions and consequences. I don't think we disagree.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a36381674/vaccines-prevent-transmission-spread/"If You’re Vaccinated You Can Live Your Life Again. It Really Is That Simple.""But we are getting to a place in this country where we can start to do the things that make life worth living again. We must honor those we lost, and acknowledge that we lost more than we should have, and learn from that. But it's hard to believe that anyone who died from this vicious disease would want we, the living, to delay going back to some of the best things in life longer than is necessary. We can honor them with monuments and remembrances, but we can also honor them by enjoying ourselves. Raise a glass—your free vaccination beer, maybe—with a promise to devote yourself to a life well-lived. As it stands, I intend to go to some concerts this summer. Maybe even a club. That doesn't mean you have to do the same. If being vaccinated means you are not putting others at risk, and this lack of spread means cases and hospitalizations and deaths continue to drop, it's time to choose your own path through the world, just like you did a year and a half ago."
Wow. You are treated with kid gloves around here. I got nailed when I said I am done caring about people who refuse to get vaccinated and when I criticized Corbin Burnes for his refusal. Obviously I worry about people dying after getting Covid from an unvaccinated person, but screw the anti-vaxxers.
I actually do care about them. I'm simply saying that their health decisions on a going forward basis once everyone has a reasonable chance to get 2 shots are their responsibility, not mine. I may have told this story last week. I was at a wedding last weekend where a couple folks indicated that they had no plans to vaccinate. They also didn't expect me to wear a mask in their presence. All good. We're all responsible for ourselves.
The bill that DeSantis signed (per your own link) does not go into effect until July Ist. Long before then everyone who wants the vaccine in Florida will have received it. So I’m good with it.Take a snapshot, cherry pick, whatever. Florida has done better than many of the bigger states and as well as virtually all of them with considerably less suffering by its citizens. But I guess bankruptcies, unemployment, all the terrible issues that result from remote learning, etc., etc., are meaningless to you. You should move someplace where the policies have been (in your opinion) effective. New York, New Jersey, Texas, California, Illinois and Michigan are good comps. All things considered, I’d choose Florida over all of them. I think I’m in a pretty solid majority in that thinking. I’d rather consider the empirical evidence, you’d rather argue politics. So be it.
I agree Glow. Allowing people to make their own choices and live with the consequences doesn’t mean you don’t care about them. I wish people wouldn’t smoke, drink or use drugs to excess, be inactive, become obese, etc., etc.,.But I’m not for taking their Lucky Strikes, Jack Daniels or Big Gulps away from them because I (or the government) decides “they would be better off without them”. I’ll pay higher insurance, risk driving our highways, etc., because prohibition and a free society don’t mix well. All of the awful things that happen because of our poor choices don’t add up to the awful not having those choices would bring.
And your stance on drugs and prostitution are what?
Legal, regulated.
I agree up to the point where an individuals bad choices have a negative impact to those around them. Drink as much as you want but as soon as you get behind the wheel it negatively impacts those around you - therefore it's illegal. Smoke until your lungs are briquettes but second hand smoke causes damage to others - therefore it's prohibited in public. Don't get the vaccine but the more people who choose to go unvaccinated the higher likelihood of a variant developing that will make all our vaccinations much less effective - therefore feel free to return to normal social interaction without any responsibility?Again, totally agree that not getting vaccinated is a choice and I wouldn't force people to get it (or outlaw cigs, or ban booze) but that choice could have an impact on others and therefore there should be limits to what that impact is.
How much heroin should I be allowed to buy at once?
I’ll leave that to the FDA.How much booze can you buy at once? Enough to kill yourself and then some, ai’na?