Oso planning to go pro
before everyone jumps on me for saying the preseason isn't worth anything, With the bears, though Forte is golden, but who is Jay auntler going to throw to besides Greg Olsen? I'm even suprising myself by saying they are the 3rd best defense in the division, but I think that speaks to the quality of the division and my homerism.
You think so?
But, I also think Brett Favre can throw more than 5 yards. So we can disagree on 2 things.
I think he can throw farther than 5 yards, but I honestly do have significant doubts about his ability to make all of the throws anymore. He demonstrated that last year...not sure why this year would be any different.
Brett might not have as much left in the tank as Elway in 97/98, but it's a similar situation.
I think its a terrible comparison. For one, Elway was never the turnover machine that Favre has been his entire career. Add a couple birthdays to the mix, and it gets even worse. In his prime, Favre had the ability to make up for his own turnovers with spectacular plays. Those days are gone. Every INT he throws now equals a couple less carries for AP. That is the nightmare scenario for the Vikings.
Look back to last year, chief. The Packers had no problems scoring - they scored by far the most in the NFC North and I think they were about #3 in the conference in TD's scored. Yet, they only won 6 games. 6 fricken games - pathetic. "Ooh, but we were close" doesn't count in the NFL - be a winner, or you're the opposite. 10+ wins if the offense is firing on all cylinders. Get real. I think* you mean Tarvaris Jackson, but maybe we've added a 5th QB over the past few hours. I am sure Favre is leaps and bounds better (for this season) than Jackson. I also believe Sage is a better option than Tarvaris and would hope we trade Tarvaris (even for a 6th round pick) and keep JDB. Keep on getting overly excited by preseason results -- it's the only time in 2009 you'll feel like you have a chance (although both GB and MINN are 3-0 thus far).
I do think he can effectively manage a team and game without throwing the ball all over the field.
People keep mentioning the lack of "name" receivers on the Bears. It begs the question, do the receivers make a quarterback great, or does a quarterback make his receivers better?No question after seeing Cutler up close that his arm strength and mobility in the pocket will make guys like Earl Bennett much better. FWIW, I think Hester is a terrible receiver. Poor hands, runs bad routes. I don't think even Cutler can make Hester a great receiver.Olsen should make the Pro Bowl this season. Bears will utliize him a lot as an H back and in the slot. Linebackers and defensive ends won't be able to cover him. The new "monster" goal line set with Olsen, Dez Clark, and Kellen Davis on the field all at once is a terrible match up for opposing defenses (see Giants/Broncos preseason games).Cutler also has one of the best check down options in the league with Forte. As Peter King pointed out yesterday, Forte could catch 90 passes this season.Bears should have few problems scoring points this season. It's the giving up a ton of points that worries me as a Bears fan.
Besides wanting to believe it, what evidence is there to suggest this? When has he ever demonstrated as much? Perhaps in his prime in the mid-90's with Coach Holmgren. He's not in his prime. Its not the mid-90's, and Childress is not Mike Holmgren. Again, keep believing it if you want, but doing so, seems to require ignoring history.
Just ask Jay Bee, he's incredible at ignoring history. Unless the only history you acknowledge is that the Vikings won the division last year. That's the extent of his NFL knowledge.Unless you include "except for having 40% of our offensive line being new starters, one as a rookie and one replacing a career all-pro center, we're golden on the offensive line."
You're right. He has a big ego and has always loved to sling it. However, just 2 years ago Brett was lauded for effectively managing the team and their short passing game. He sliced and diced secondaries with a short, controlled passing game and let the receivers run after the catch (I believe the Packers led the league in YAC that year). His TD/INT ratio was an impressive 1.8/1 and people were loving him for modifying some of his old ways. Late in the Giants game, he made a poor decision and a bad throw, and it cost the Pack. No doubt. Now, in 2009, do I think he's going to become Neil O'Donnell? Nope. Do I think he can be effective? Yes, if healthy (big IF) I think Brett can be effective in 2009. Also, I've added some stats to my previous post about the Elway comparison. I still think it's a pretty good comparison. I know you disagree. Do you have a better one?
Rodgers is better than Cutler...not by a wide margin necessarily, but he's a better QB. There is no comparison between the Packers receivers and the Bears. The Bears get the nod at TE, but like the QB comparison, the margin is much slimmer than many people think.I like Forte, but he's just a guy - nothing special. He could catch that many passes because their receivers can't. That's a big number, that I agree with, but it is not necessarily a good thing. The Bears offense will be ok...certainly better than past years. It does look as if their defense probably has gotten worse, not better though. It is looking as if the Bears are probably the third team in a three team race, but it will probably be close, so an injury or two and a lucky bounce here or there for all three teams could make the difference.
He was also lauded for coming into Green Bay in March, studying film all off season, participating in off season activities, and working out with a personal trainer while he was off. When he retired, he said that he still loved to play on Sundays, but it was the stuff in between that he couldn't make a 100% commitment to. That's fine. Now he found a team that doesn't require him to do that other stuff.Childress and his crew are being even softer on Brett than Sherman was in his last year in Green Bay (2005). And we all remember how that turned out.
All fair points. But, this team isn't the 2005 Packers. They are much, much better. Brett will not have to shoulder the load. I think Brett Favre at at 39/40 can still be effective. Some of you guys disagree. We will find out.
However, just 2 years ago Brett was lauded for effectively managing the team and their short passing game. He sliced and diced secondaries with a short, controlled passing game and let the receivers run after the catch (I believe the Packers led the league in YAC that year).
WHO IS GOING TO CATCH THE BALL BOBBY WADE? BERNARD BERRIAN? PERCY HARVIN?HAHAHAHA WHAT A CROCK.