2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread

[WhiteTrash]

Not really.He didnt say his agents weren't working on it,  just that hes not.Poles comments didnt say he just started, just that they are working on it.

I think you are really stretching to defend the Bears. The Sweat's words should be taken at face value. Insinuating Sweat is playing coy or BS'ing the public is unfair to him. I think he is telling the truth; he is not engaging with the Bears on a new contract. End of story.

[Jockey]

What real incentive does Sweat have to do a deal with Chicago?

If they use the franchise tag, he gets a huge salary next year and then he gets a long term deal.

If they don’t use the tag, he gets the bucks now.

[Jockey]

So any word on the improper conduct by the latest coach they fired?

[lawdog77]

I think you are really stretching to defend the Bears. The Sweat's words should be taken at face value. Insinuating Sweat is playing coy or BS'ing the public is unfair to him. I think he is telling the truth; he is not engaging with the Bears on a new contract. End of story.

He's not, but his agent is. He's giving the words that most players use. "I'm focusing on football". My whold point was that all of this came from a poorly written article stating the Bears haven't "exactly laid the groundwork", whatever that means. I'm not even a Bears Fan.

[WhiteTrash]

He's not, but his agent is. He's giving the words that most players use. "I'm focusing on football". My whold point was that all of this came from a poorly written article stating the Bears haven't "exactly laid the groundwork", whatever that means. I'm not even a Bears Fan.

Maybe you're right and he's full of it. The significant issue is a 2-6 team is giving up major draft capital for a potential "rent a player". They could have negotiated an extension prior to giving up a high 2nd but chose not to.

[MU82]

Will Levis’ race to the Pro Bowl was interrupted last night.

[DegenerateDish]

That’s a lot of guaranteed cash for Sweat. 

[lawdog77]

I think you are really stretching to defend the Bears. The Sweat's words should be taken at face value. Insinuating Sweat is playing coy or BS'ing the public is unfair to him. I think he is telling the truth; he is not engaging with the Bears on a new contract. End of story.

ahem

[WhiteTrash]

That’s a lot of guaranteed cash for Sweat. 

Poles is shoving up the Bears' @$$ on his way out the door. Top 10 worst contracts on NFL history?

[JWags85]

Poles is shoving up the Bears' @$$ on his way out the door. Top 10 worst contracts on NFL history?

Exaggerate much? In NFL history?

It’s roughly $24M per year. Basically identical to what Maxx Crosby got a couple years ago.

Sweat is currently tied for 8th in sacks, tied for second with Aaron Donald in TFL, and 4 on total tackles for DE/Edge rushers.  He’s having a damn good year despite being on a terrible defense in Washington.  That deal isn’t gonna look pricey at all when a couple of the other DEs on the market sign/resign

[MU82]

Exaggerate much? In NFL history?

My thought exactly. Might not be one of the 10 worst contracts the Bears themselves have handed out in the last 20 years.

Or it might end up being that. We sure as sh!t don't know today.

[Pakuni]

Exaggerate much? In NFL history?

It’s roughly $24M per year. Basically identical to what Maxx Crosby got a couple years ago. 

Sweat is currently tied for 8th in sacks, tied for second with Aaron Donald in TFL, and 4 on total tackles for DE/Edge rushers.  He’s having a damn good year despite being on a terrible defense in Washington.  That deal isn’t gonna look pricey at all when a couple of the other DEs on the market sign/resign

I'm not sure "We're paying him only $600K more than Maxx Crosby" is a winning argument. (And yes, I understand contract inflation, etc. It's still a bad comp).

Sweat is having a good year, and he's a good player, but his statistical output this season is an outlier compared with the rest of his career. Is it sustainable? We'll see.
And I wouldn't understate how he's benefited from the rest of that D-line in Washington. He's playing alongside two Pro Bowl DTs and a seemingly healthy Chase Young. OCs aren't looking at that defensive front and scheming for one guy (unlike, say, Maxx Crosby or Danielle Hunter), and if they were, that guy isn't Sweat.

We'll see what other edge rushers get, but as of now, Sweat heads into 2024 as the 5th highest paid edge rusher in football - and that's if the Chargers don't release Kahili Mack, who's due to get $38 million next year. That's a big number for a guy who's never had more than 9 sacks in a season.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Yeah, I don't think it's a great contract. I don't like the trade either. But it most definitely can still work out.

Hell, I thought the Packers trading a first round draft pick for the Falcons' back up quarterback wasn't a good idea either.

[Uncle Rico]

Yeah, I don't think it's a great contract. I don't like the trade either. But it most definitely can still work out.

Hell, I thought the Packers trading a first round draft pick for the Falcons' back up quarterback wasn't a good idea either.

A lot of women who liked quickies in Milwaukee bar bathrooms liked that trade, though

[MuggsyB]

Are these the two best NFL teams?

[Uncle Rico]

NFL Network just showed a man kiss another man on the cheek on live TV.  Suspect the NFL is about to be cancelled and fees rights will plummet

[MuggsyB]

NFL Network just showed a man kiss another man on the cheek on live TV.  Suspect the NFL is about to be cancelled and fees rights will plummet

?????

[MU82]

NFL Network just showed a man kiss another man on the cheek on live TV.  Suspect the NFL is about to be cancelled and fees rights will plummet

The good news is they didn't show anybody drinking Bud Light.

[HutchwasClutch]

Are these the two best NFL teams?

No. Not now and I don’t think at the end of the season either. 

[Uncle Rico]

The good news is they didn't show anybody drinking Bud Light.

I’ve seen a bunch of Bud Light commercials.  This is why the NFL is doomed

[4everwarriors]

NFL Network just showed a man kiss another man on the cheek on live TV.  Suspect the NFL is about to be cancelled and fees rights will plummet

Ya sure it wuzant T. Swift in disguise, hey?

[MuggsyB]

No. Not now and I don’t think at the end of the season either.

Good because this game has been borderline unwatchable.  Thank God for MU Hoops Hutch.

[Uncle Rico]

Good because this game has been borderline unwatchable.  Thank God for MU Hoops Hutch.

The NFL is a week-to-week league where who looks like a Super Bowl contender changes all the time.  Three weeks ago, the 49ers looked great.  Now?

The Chiefs will be one of the favorites heading into the playoffs because they’ll win the west going away.  They may not get home field but it won’t matter.

The Dolphins are very explosive but have defensive issues.

I think the more important game is tonight’s game between Cincinnati and Buffalo. 


And lol on that TD

[JWags85]

I'm not sure "We're paying him only $600K more than Maxx Crosby" is a winning argument. (And yes, I understand contract inflation, etc. It's still a bad comp).

Sweat is having a good year, and he's a good player, but his statistical output this season is an outlier compared with the rest of his career. Is it sustainable? We'll see.
And I wouldn't understate how he's benefited from the rest of that D-line in Washington. He's playing alongside two Pro Bowl DTs and a seemingly healthy Chase Young. OCs aren't looking at that defensive front and scheming for one guy (unlike, say, Maxx Crosby or Danielle Hunter), and if they were, that guy isn't Sweat.

We'll see what other edge rushers get, but as of now, Sweat heads into 2024 as the 5th highest paid edge rusher in football - and that's if the Chargers don't release Kahili Mack, who's due to get $38 million next year. That's a big number for a guy who's never had more than 9 sacks in a season.

Do I think it’s a great contract? No, not initially.  I think it’s an overpay on a hot start being indicative of future success.

That being said, my post was less about proving what a great contract it was and more refuting the absurd notion that it’s a historically bad contract, and that it’s not even a horrible contract in current times/for the Bears recently.  And it’s certainly not Poles sabotaging the Bears with some poison pill contract

[WhiteTrash]

Exaggerate much? In NFL history?

It’s roughly $24M per year. Basically identical to what Maxx Crosby got a couple years ago.

Sweat is currently tied for 8th in sacks, tied for second with Aaron Donald in TFL, and 4 on total tackles for DE/Edge rushers.  He’s having a damn good year despite being on a terrible defense in Washington.  That deal isn’t gonna look pricey at all when a couple of the other DEs on the market sign/resign

Maybe I should have spelled it out, that they could have easily signed him to that contract in the off season and not give up a high 2nd round pick. When you take everything into account it is a god awful contract.

If they made the trade and signed him to a FMV contract or more team friendly because they have the franchise tag available, then the trade would have made sense.

The whole deal clearly shows that Poles is on his way out and he's sticking it to the Bears. Not the first time an employee has done it.