Science still not settled on Natural Immunity vs Vaccines

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

It has never been, nor will it ever be, completely secure. Common sense immigration laws would be 100% better.

But of course some people don’t like brown people who speak a non-English language, so they are easily swayed by “secure the border” nonsense.

I've known several illegal immigrants and none of them spoke Spanish and none of them ever crossed the border with Mexico.

"Securing the border" would have done jack.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Yeah, butt now FD Joe iz gonna kut cancer deaths bi 50%, hey?

4 out of 5 dentists recommend you die from cancer or COVID.

[forgetful]

I REFUSE TO PUT ON WINTER TIRES BECAUSE:
• It’s my car, my choice, my freedom.
• The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (like I’m supposed to trust them).
• My neighbor Bob had an accident even after putting on winter tires.
• Some drivers are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their ineffectiveness.
• We do not know what the tires are made of.
• The tire manufacturers scare us with winter just to enrich themselves.
• In fact, I read on the internet that the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.
• If I have winter tires, the government can track me in the snow.
Educate yourself, open your eyes, stop being sheep!
This year, I say no to winter tires!

Do people really use the equivalent for the COVID vaccines? It's not exactly hard to find what is in the vaccines.

[Pakuni]

You were the guy in college who would put his name on a group project and contribute nothing to the work weren’t you. 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/94258

Yes I know the expert said while natural immunity was stronger against reinfection then vaccination it isn’t a reason to go out and try to get Covid, I agree.  I’m talking about the millions of people who have already gotten Covid accidentally and that those people should not be mandated to get poked to keep their job, go to a show, or participate in normal life activities.

As always, your wit and charm are off the charts.

Anyhow, what you've written above has nothing to do with my post you labeled "not true at all."
I know you're not always so good at this, but could you try to tell me what was "not true at all," with actual evidence to support it.
Thanks

[pacearrow02]

I REFUSE TO PUT ON WINTER TIRES BECAUSE:
• It’s my car, my choice, my freedom.
• The effectiveness of winter tires is not proven, except by studies carried out by the manufacturers (like I’m supposed to trust them).
• My neighbor Bob had an accident even after putting on winter tires.
• Some drivers are already on their 3rd set of tires, which proves their ineffectiveness.
• We do not know what the tires are made of.
• The tire manufacturers scare us with winter just to enrich themselves.
• In fact, I read on the internet that the tire giants invented snow and spread it at night when you sleep.
• If I have winter tires, the government can track me in the snow.
Educate yourself, open your eyes, stop being sheep!
This year, I say no to winter tires!

Ugh....are you not allowed to drive on the roads in winter time unless you have winter tires? 

[Warriors4ever]

Actually there are areas of the west where you are required to have chains ( not sure if actual snow tires are allowed also) when the roads get bad.

[MU82]

A better metaphor would be wearing seat belts.

I refuse to wear a seat belt because I've seen studies that you're more likely to die if you wear one.

I refuse to make my 11-year-old kid wear a seat belt because "people say" seat belts can make a kid sterile.

Etc.

[thomaskyle]

A better metaphor would be wearing seat belts.

I refuse to wear a seat belt because I've seen studies that you're more likely to die if you wear one.

I refuse to make my 11-year-old kid wear a seat belt because "people say" seat belts can make a kid sterile.

Etc.

 If you dont wear a seat belt, its just a ticket, you dont lose your job.

[thomaskyle]

Ironies continue to both abound and be missed.

This from the guy who probably still want Wojo as coach.

[Uncle Rico]

If you dont wear a seat belt, its just a ticket, you dont lose your job.

Nope, but if you get a DUI you could lose your job.  If you refuse to be drug tested, you might not get a job.  Toughen up, snowflake

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

If you dont wear a seat belt, its just a ticket, you dont lose your job.

Then they should get vaccinated.  It is safe and effective.

This isn't rocket science.

[thomaskyle]

Then they should get vaccinated.  It is safe and effective.

This isn't rocket science.

I can go along with MOST people SHOULD.
But far from EVERYONE MUST.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I can go along with MOST people SHOULD.
But far from EVERYONE MUST.

I really don't care what you can go along with.  If an employer finds it in their best interests to require vaccination, like medical centers for instance, that is their choice. 

There are other employers out there for people who, for whatever weird reasons they have, don't want to get vaccinated.

[tower912]

This from the guy who probably still want Wojo as coach.

You simply can't get a single thing right.

[thomaskyle]

You simply can't get a single thing right.

your 5 year history was and is clear

[tower912]

Your 20 post history is much clearer.

I was a meh-Jo.  For the record.....
I worried about the Wojo hiring, saying he could only succeed if he grew past his Duke roots.
I criticized his pick and roll defense frequently, writing a treatise on why it couldn't work with two tiny guards.
I called his game coaching paint-by-numbers.
I did a dissertation about the holes in his recruiting.
I called his coaching Crean without Wade.  I still haven't figured how that can be construed as a compliment.
I criticized his handling if the Hauser situation, but arrived at a different conclusion than the then popular zeitgeist.

I got labeled a Pro-jo at that point.    For that and for saying that a coach averaging 20 wins a year over a 5 year stretch doesn't get fired.  I included in my 20-21 prediction that that year might give the no-jos what they wanted.   I never called for his firing, but I never called him a great coach.

I wrongly assumed that MU's money issues and the COVID season would get him a mulligan.    Oops.

But, no, I don't miss Wojo at all.


But thanks for proving my point about how wrong you are.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

thomas is angry because he is usually very, very wrong.  So he's lashing out.  Sad.

[tower912]

Brought basketball into a COVID thread.  That's new.

[Lighthouse 84]

For those who criticized and said there was nothing wrong with what Dr. Zeke Emmanuel said about unvaccinated kids getting a serious case of COVID,

There’s this.

MSNBC
@MSNBC
Editor’s note: A post that quoted Dr. Zeke Emanuel discussing the omicron variant and children has been removed after it was discovered to include a misstatement.

But go ahead and tell the rest of us his misstatement was a misstatement.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Pretty sure no one here defended what he said, but keep building that strawman!!!

[Lighthouse 84]

Some on here said, it’s a no brainer to get very small children vaxxed and that others on here were implying there are issues when in fact there aren't any.

Announced yesterday, Pfizer has postponed potential EUA-approval from the FDA, as European nations like Sweden are forgoing recommending the COVID-19 vaccine for young children, saying the risks of COVID-19 do not outweigh the benefits of the vaccine.

Now, it may ultimately get approved for use for very small children, but “no brainer” and “no issues”?  Waiting a while for a toddler doesn’t seem to be such an unreasonable approach, hey?

[Pakuni]

Some on here said, it’s a no brainer to get very small children vaxxed and that others on here were implying there are issues when in fact there aren't any.

Announced yesterday, Pfizer has postponed potential EUA-approval from the FDA, as European nations like Sweden are forgoing recommending the COVID-19 vaccine for young children, saying the risks of COVID-19 do not outweigh the benefits of the vaccine.

Now, it may ultimately get approved for use for very small children, but “no brainer” and “no issues”?  Waiting a while for a toddler doesn’t seem to be such an unreasonable approach, hey?

Why are they postponing the request?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Some on here said, it’s a no brainer to get very small children vaxxed and that others on here were implying there are issues when in fact there aren't any.

Announced yesterday, Pfizer has postponed potential EUA-approval from the FDA, as European nations like Sweden are forgoing recommending the COVID-19 vaccine for young children, saying the risks of COVID-19 do not outweigh the benefits of the vaccine.

Now, it may ultimately get approved for use for very small children, but “no brainer” and “no issues”?  Waiting a while for a toddler doesn’t seem to be such an unreasonable approach, hey?

It’s a no brainer when it’s approved.

[pacearrow02]

Why are they postponing the request?

https://mobile.twitter.com/rfsquared/status/1492951410597584899

Cause current dosage still isn’t working.

[4everwarriors]

The threat of getting covid and the consequences thereof are statistically insignificant for children, aina?