Wisconsin

[Jockey]

There aren't any shortages of ppe in any hospital I've worked at nor have any friends said any about theirs yet.

So your saying that doctors and nurses are lying?

Interesting.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So your saying that doctors and nurses are lying?

Interesting.

Not what he said.

Try to stop being insufferable please.

[mu_hilltopper]

Hey, Scoop lawyers:   What's the over/under on voter lawsuits that will be filed after today? 

[rocket surgeon]

Not what he said.

Try to stop being insufferable please.

thank you!! 

sometimes, i could almost kiss you on the lips

[warriorchick]

Still feeling like you upgraded governments by leaving IL, chick? 

Without a doubt.

[Lighthouse 84]

Without a doubt.

I couldn’t agree more Chick. Our guy in Illinois is as bad as it gets in just about every way imaginable.

[GB Warrior]

https://twitter.com/DanRShafer/status/1247614027288784896?s=19

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[pbiflyer]

Some people thing today's voting debacle is a feature, not a bug.

[Sir Lawrence]

Hey, Scoop lawyers:   What's the over/under on voter lawsuits that will be filed after today?

If you could purchase futures on that type of bet, I’d be all in on less than three days post official count.  And filed in Dane County.

[GB Warrior]

If you could purchase futures on that type of bet, I’d be all in on less than three days post official count.  And filed in Dane County.

Is there standing if the case was adjudicated by the Supreme Court?

[mu_hilltopper]

If you could purchase futures on that type of bet, I’d be all in on less than three days post official count.  And filed in Dane County.

Dane County .. wouldn't that imply state court remedies?    I'd imagine there'd be several in Federal court, too. 

I mean .. there are tens of thousands of people who properly asked for an absentee ballot and never received it.

Not to mention, people who requested one and then voted in person -- like Chris Abele.   There'll be thousands of people who had two ballots issued in their name.

What's the latin term for that, something like clusterfck maximus?

[HutchwasClutch]

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I mean .. there are tens of thousands of people who properly asked for an absentee ballot and never received it.

So after they requested and didn’t receive a ballot, they were all helpless to do anything else from that point on?  In person absentee voting started as early as March 16th and ended April 3rd.  I don’t think there’s a municipality in the state where every voter didn’t have at least two weeks. 

And people just sat on their hands and didn’t demand to know where the ballot they requested was?

If you requested a ballot and didn’t do a damn other thing than that, you didn’t really care much anyway.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Is there standing if the case was adjudicated by the Supreme Court?

Not when Dane Co judges can get involved.  They're the 9th Circuit of the WI judiciary.

Standing?  We don't need no stinkin standing.

[mu_hilltopper]

So after they requested and didn’t receive a ballot, they were all helpless to do anything else from that point on?  In person absentee voting started as early as March 16th and ended April 3rd.  I don’t think there’s a municipality in the state where every voter didn’t have at least two weeks. 

And people just sat on their hands and didn’t demand to know where the ballot they requested was?

If you requested a ballot and didn’t do a damn other thing than that, you didn’t really care much anyway.

Very much disagree.  Anyone who requests a ballot, whether online, by mail, or in person cares exactly the same.  They want to vote, full stop, the end. 

There are municipalities that were completely swamped and just did not get the ballots out in time.  My village pulled in extra people, working 11 hour days, but not every muni was able to execute that type of effort.   Not to mention, the USPS getting the ballots in mailboxes by today. -- There's a report from Fox Point that a tray of 150+ ballots, delivered to USPS was returned to Village Hall for no reason.

So indeed, we're left with people who requested but the munis couldn't execute quickly enough.

And .. there are people who are "absentee" in the truest sense, they are out of town or disabled, unable to go in-person.  If they got their request in 20 days or 1 minute before the deadline, they all have the expectation of reception.   

In the end, there are specific instructions for voters, which they followed properly, but the government failed to execute. 

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Very much disagree.  Anyone who requests a ballot, whether online, by mail, or in person cares exactly the same.  They want to vote, full stop, the end. 

There are municipalities that were completely swamped and just did not get the ballots out in time.  My village pulled in extra people, working 11 hour days, but not every muni was able to execute that type of effort.   Not to mention, the USPS getting the ballots in mailboxes by today. -- There's a report from Fox Point that a tray of 150+ ballots, delivered to USPS was returned to Village Hall for no reason.

So indeed, we're left with people who requested but the munis couldn't execute quickly enough.

And .. there are people who are "absentee" in the truest sense, they are out of town or disabled, unable to go in-person.  If they got their request in 20 days or 1 minute before the deadline, they all have the expectation of reception.   

In the end, there are specific instructions for voters, which they followed properly, but the government failed to execute.

Agrred, most

[Sir Lawrence]

Very much disagree.  Anyone who requests a ballot, whether online, by mail, or in person cares exactly the same.  They want to vote, full stop, the end. 

There are municipalities that were completely swamped and just did not get the ballots out in time.  My village pulled in extra people, working 11 hour days, but not every muni was able to execute that type of effort.   Not to mention, the USPS getting the ballots in mailboxes by today. -- There's a report from Fox Point that a tray of 150+ ballots, delivered to USPS was returned to Village Hall for no reason.

So indeed, we're left with people who requested but the munis couldn't execute quickly enough.

And .. there are people who are "absentee" in the truest sense, they are out of town or disabled, unable to go in-person.  If they got their request in 20 days or 1 minute before the deadline, they all have the expectation of reception.   

In the end, there are specific instructions for voters, which they followed properly, but the government failed to execute.

Agree.  I received mine five days before my wife and we requested them a day apart.  Between swamped municipalities and the oddness of the USPS, the system broke down for too many. 

[Jockey]

Not what he said.

Try to stop being insufferable please.

We know there are shortages of PPE. Anecdotal evidence that differs proves nothing.

[HutchwasClutch]

Very much disagree.  Anyone who requests a ballot, whether online, by mail, or in person cares exactly the same.  They want to vote, full stop, the end. 

There are municipalities that were completely swamped and just did not get the ballots out in time.  My village pulled in extra people, working 11 hour days, but not every muni was able to execute that type of effort.   Not to mention, the USPS getting the ballots in mailboxes by today. -- There's a report from Fox Point that a tray of 150+ ballots, delivered to USPS was returned to Village Hall for no reason.

So indeed, we're left with people who requested but the munis couldn't execute quickly enough.

And .. there are people who are "absentee" in the truest sense, they are out of town or disabled, unable to go in-person.  If they got their request in 20 days or 1 minute before the deadline, they all have the expectation of reception.   

In the end, there are specific instructions for voters, which they followed properly, but the government failed to execute.

I know, personal responsibility is a lost virtue these days. The govt, failed, so that’s that. Now you get to be a victim. 

For those truly absentee- out of state, I feel badly for them. But that’s a tiny minority in every election.  The thousands had plenty of time to do something other than sit on their hands and complain.  You find a way to get it done if it truly is important to you. 

[GB Warrior]

I know, personal responsibility is a lost virtue these days. The govt, failed, so that’s that. Now you get to be a victim. 

For those truly absentee- out of state, I feel badly for them. But that’s a tiny minority in every election.  The thousands had plenty of time to do something other than sit on their hands and complain.  You find a way to get it done if it truly is important to you.

Why would they when national leaders were downplaying it for the past several weeks and months?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Good news is that the president of a local health system was on TV today saying that Wisconsin should have enough PPE and hospital capacity to manage the peak, which is projected for next week.  He also said that we have to hit social isolation very hard between now and April 24 to have any thought of loosening stay at home after then.  But overall seemed pretty optimistic that we have avoided a New York like scenario.

[warriorchick]

I couldn’t agree more Chick. Our guy in Illinois is as bad as it gets in just about every way imaginable.

Yep. Wisconsin isn't any more corrupt than Illinois (just leaning in the opposite direction, perhaps), but at least it isn't teetering on the edge of fiscal collapse.

Plus cheese.  And beer.

[Hards Alumni]

I know, personal responsibility is a lost virtue these days. The govt, failed, so that’s that. Now you get to be a victim. 

For those truly absentee- out of state, I feel badly for them. But that’s a tiny minority in every election.  The thousands had plenty of time to do something other than sit on their hands and complain.  You find a way to get it done if it truly is important to you.

Bahahhahahahahhahaha

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I know, personal responsibility is a lost virtue these days. The govt, failed, so that’s that. Now you get to be a victim. 

Good lord.  Stop your nonsense.

[#UnleashSean]

We know there are shortages of PPE. Anecdotal evidence that differs proves nothing.

There are ppe shortages in states and cities where they were hit the hardest (As well as improperly managing the ppe)

Wisconsin does not have any of these shortages in hospitals.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

There are ppe shortages in states and cities where they were hit the hardest (As well as improperly managing the ppe)

Wisconsin does not have any of these shortages in hospitals.

Yep.  And as I said above, this was echoed by the President of a local heath system this morning.