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Shaka Shart

Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 29, 2026, 09:42:56 AMExamples, please.  Not just a media narrative that is being pushed.

The examples lie in the comment sections and the replies of the most maladjusted fans of the stated examples. As we know Twitter and the like is a cesspool.

This of course does not mean Piker and the like are openly antisemitic like is being pushed, rather it's projecting the lunatics in that area of fandom into the main representation of their views. (And also a useful position to take as a centrist trying to depress the left flank).

this portrayal is similar to Muggsy saying you can't care about Gaza if you haven't denounced every single global atrocity, but there can't be a denial that Israel's batcrap insanity has manifested in projecting its actions onto all American Jews condoning it. (But do you denounce Hamas?)

America has and continues to have an antisemitism problem. However this problem is being co-opted to weaponize against prominent voices on the left.

And it doesn't really matter if they denounce the most extreme positions of their fans, it will never be enough.

The difference lies in separating condemning the nation vs projecting on the entire religion. (which piker has explained in detail many times!). This differs from the "wink wink" which I think is the important distinction between a Piker and a Tucker. But for the cynically opportunistic among us, it's the same because it's convenient to say so.

#BanGBWarrior

MU82

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 29, 2026, 01:40:40 PMBee Jay is clutching his pearls at such slander

And the head Nazi in that group is the one who oversaw der Fuhrer's masked Gestapo murdering two innocent U.S. citizens in JB's town.

Bovino's only regret is that the Gestapo didn't execute more Twin Cities residents.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

Quote from: Shaka Shart on May 29, 2026, 01:50:51 PMThe examples lie in the comment sections and the replies of the most maladjusted fans of the stated examples. As we know Twitter and the like is a cesspool.

This of course does not mean Piker and the like are openly antisemitic like is being pushed, rather it's projecting the lunatics in that area of fandom into the main representation of their views. (And also a useful position to take as a centrist trying to depress the left flank).

this portrayal is similar to Muggsy saying you can't care about Gaza if you haven't denounced every single global atrocity, but there can't be a denial that Israel's batcrap insanity has manifested in projecting its actions onto all American Jews condoning it. (But do you denounce Hamas?)

America has and continues to have an antisemitism problem. However this problem is being co-opted to weaponize against prominent voices on the left.

And it doesn't really matter if they denounce the most extreme positions of their fans, it will never be enough.

The difference lies in separating condemning the nation vs projecting on the entire religion. (which piker has explained in detail many times!). This differs from the "wink wink" which I think is the important distinction between a Piker and a Tucker. But for the cynically opportunistic among us, it's the same because it's convenient to say so.



Good overall post.

My quibble is "stated examples" in your first paragraph.

Billy hasn't stated any examples. He just says "far left progressives"

cheebs09

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 29, 2026, 01:35:12 PMDon't call them Nazi's!

https://bsky.app/profile/jtischauser.bsky.social/post/3mmyw4pvaj22t

Frankly, it's amazing he found a group that could make him look average height.

MU82

Nice job by Texas law-enforcement officials and officers. They tracked down and arrested a Gestapo ICE agent who shot a Venezuelan man (and lied about having done so) during der Fuhrer's Final Solution operation in the Twin Cities.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Shaka Shart

Quote from: jesmu84 on May 30, 2026, 07:31:28 AMGood overall post.

My quibble is "stated examples" in your first paragraph.

Billy hasn't stated any examples. He just says "far left progressives"

I was referring to what I have witnessed in the cesspool as stated examples. But yes there have not been specifics provided
#BanGBWarrior

Billy Hoyle

#58
Cooper Union - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTFrCwEePaM
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/nyregion/cooper-union-jewish-students-lawsuit-antisemitism.html

Columbia - https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/columbia-university-anti-semitism-report-37d018c8

many other college campuses: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zOGmbUwgZuI

Kosher restaurants - https://abc7ny.com/post/nyc-jewish-restaurant-owner-says-swastikas-painted-israeli-flag-town-down-in-chelsea/14767285/?userab=kabc_content_recs-577*variant_c_trending-2482%2Cwls_content_recs-584*variant_a_control_wls-2516%2Cwpvi_content_recs-586*variant_b_trending_wpvi-2521%2Cotv_web_content_rec-539*variant_c_trending-2268%2Cotv_search_page_design_unification-546*variant_a_control-2299%2Cabcn_popular_reads_exp-542*variant_b_7days_filter-2288

https://nypost.com/2026/05/28/us-news/hundreds-rally-in-support-of-nyc-kosher-bagel-shop-trashed-in-anti-semitic-attack/

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-kosher-restaurant-vandalized-on-anniversary-of-kristallnacht/3765042/

From a personal standpoint, I have two close friends working on college campuses (in Colorado) who were each victims of taunts and verbal abuse, by their own students, and were told they were not of a "protected class" and to "deal with it." One has a colleague who is also the coach of an Israeli national team who had a swastika carved into his office door and was openly mocked about one of his team members being murdered on October 7. One of the guys, in Colorado Springs, was told by his son's teachers (elementary age) that for their safety, they should "not be openly Jewish," which included bringing "Jewish food" for lunch and celebrating Hanukkah. Totally normal stuff, right? BTW, both of those guys are left-leaning. But sure, call it a "media narrative."

And keep ignoring that the psychos who carried out the attack in San Diego also targeted Jews.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU82

Yes, Jews are now and have often been targets. Antisemitism is disgusting, and it appears to be increasing. And there are those who use anti-Israel messaging and/or actions as a thinly veiled disguise for antisemitism.

That said, there is STILL a difference between criticizing Israeli government leaders and being antisemitic. If there weren't, my Orthodox Jewish, Tel Aviv resident brother would be antisemitic ... and I can assure you that he is not.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

I may have missed in skimming those articles, but where are "far left progressives" the source of anti-Semitic acts/words?

Also, anti-zionism is not anti-Semitism

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: jesmu84 on June 02, 2026, 02:13:30 PMI may have missed in skimming those articles, but where are "far left progressives" the source of anti-Semitic acts/words?

Also, anti-zionism is not anti-Semitism

Why are Jewish students being barricaded in a library? Why are Kosher restaurants being vandalized?

If they were right wing groups that would have been mentioned by the media. Do you really think the students at Columbia were a bunch of MAGA choads? It definitely wasn't moderates who woke my mom and her neighbors up when they attacked the house behind them....owned by a U of M board member. Progressive ideology is staunchly anti-Israel (it's a single issue litmus test for them now...and it's amazing to see how it's blowing up on them in Maine with Plattner) and they have used that to tar all Jews as "Zionists" and justify threats and violence.

Being able to criticize the actions of one's own side doesn't not make one disloyal to the overall cause. It's a shame the MAGAs refuse to realize that.

IMO, we need Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East...but Netanyahu needs to be gone ASAP.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 04, 2026, 10:48:34 AMIMO, we need Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East...but Netanyahu needs to be gone ASAP.

I agree with you 100% on this. But I do hope you are aware that some would accuse us of being antisemitic for agreeing about the words you used after the ellipses.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 04, 2026, 10:48:34 AMWhy are Jewish students being barricaded in a library? Why are Kosher restaurants being vandalized?

If they were right wing groups that would have been mentioned by the media. Do you really think the students at Columbia were a bunch of MAGA choads? It definitely wasn't moderates who woke my mom and her neighbors up when they attacked the house behind them....owned by a U of M board member. Progressive ideology is staunchly anti-Israel (it's a single issue litmus test for them now...and it's amazing to see how it's blowing up on them in Maine with Plattner) and they have used that to tar all Jews as "Zionists" and justify threats and violence.

Being able to criticize the actions of one's own side doesn't not make one disloyal to the overall cause. It's a shame the MAGAs refuse to realize that.

IMO, we need Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East...but Netanyahu needs to be gone ASAP.

Found the Morning Joe watcher.

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 04, 2026, 10:48:34 AMWhy are Jewish students being barricaded in a library? Why are Kosher restaurants being vandalized?

If they were right wing groups that would have been mentioned by the media. Do you really think the students at Columbia were a bunch of MAGA choads? It definitely wasn't moderates who woke my mom and her neighbors up when they attacked the house behind them....owned by a U of M board member. Progressive ideology is staunchly anti-Israel (it's a single issue litmus test for them now...and it's amazing to see how it's blowing up on them in Maine with Plattner) and they have used that to tar all Jews as "Zionists" and justify threats and violence.

Being able to criticize the actions of one's own side doesn't not make one disloyal to the overall cause. It's a shame the MAGAs refuse to realize that.

IMO, we need Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East...but Netanyahu needs to be gone ASAP.

You raise some fair and valid points regarding antisemitism from the left, but it's way off base to suggest it - and those behind it - are not mentioned in the media. The reason you know about these things is because it's in the media.


jesmu84

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 04, 2026, 10:48:34 AMWhy are Jewish students being barricaded in a library? Why are Kosher restaurants being vandalized?

If they were right wing groups that would have been mentioned by the media. Do you really think the students at Columbia were a bunch of MAGA choads? It definitely wasn't moderates who woke my mom and her neighbors up when they attacked the house behind them....owned by a U of M board member. Progressive ideology is staunchly anti-Israel (it's a single issue litmus test for them now...and it's amazing to see how it's blowing up on them in Maine with Plattner) and they have used that to tar all Jews as "Zionists" and justify threats and violence.

Being able to criticize the actions of one's own side doesn't not make one disloyal to the overall cause. It's a shame the MAGAs refuse to realize that.

IMO, we need Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East...but Netanyahu needs to be gone ASAP.

Any evidence that progressives or progressive ideology or anti-zionists are defining every Jewish person as a Zionist?

Shaka Shart

I think any country who imprisons innocent women and children and sexually abuses them systematically shouldnt be trusted with keeping the peace in a region.

I guess Israel also does that.

No wonder america has a senator that takes calls from the prime minister on a regular basis about policy.
#BanGBWarrior

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 04, 2026, 10:48:34 AMIMO, we need Israel as a stabilizing force in the Middle East...but Netanyahu needs to be gone ASAP.

We ain't in the club (leader of a nation clinging to power to avoid going to prison for corruption)
#BanGBWarrior

MU82

ICE is under pressure after reporting 18 detainee deaths in the first five months of this year.

So naturally, the agency will change reporting practices.

Problem solved by the Gestapo!

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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