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The Sultan

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Quote from: JWags85 on August 24, 2026, 04:25:16 PMYea, he was clearly sitting front row with the shirt for this very reason, but beyond that trolling, Cloud was the one that started it.  Honestly, him standing up and moving towards the court was stupid cause if he sat and just yelled back and still got likely ejected, it would have made his ragebait even better and Cloud/WNBA officials look worse.

Yet again though, the WNBA can't stop stepping on the proverbial rake in all of this.  Kanter and White are terrible and formulaic/lazy messengers, but even at that lame and unclever level, they are still getting exactly what they want out of the WNBA.  The messaging from the league on the whole topic is still vague and inconsistent, the league (whether players, coaches, ownership) still look like they are shouting down/trying to silence voices they disagree with, and more of the poor marketing/league issues the WNBA has always dealt with.

Is this a minor issue being made into a huge culture war fighting point?  Absolutely.  But everyone involved is just chucking 50 gallon drums of gasoline onto the fire.  Just because you think one side is "morally right", doesn't mean that all their actions/commentary/behavior around the topic is commendable and justified...and thinking otherwise is childish and tribal.


I think the WNBA is handling this fine. The front office isn't saying much and the players are sticking up for themselves. Kanter and White are coming off like fools who are clearly losing the "culture war" with those who actually care about the league.

What exactly do you think they should do that would actually make a difference? Those engaging in this nonsense aren't swayed by logic and reasoned discussion.  I actually think they should throw more fuel on the fire and ban these knuckleheads for the rest of the season.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on August 24, 2026, 04:25:16 PMYea, he was clearly sitting front row with the shirt for this very reason, but beyond that trolling, Cloud was the one that started it.  Honestly, him standing up and moving towards the court was stupid cause if he sat and just yelled back and still got likely ejected, it would have made his ragebait even better and Cloud/WNBA officials look worse.

Yet again though, the WNBA can't stop stepping on the proverbial rake in all of this.  Kanter and White are terrible and formulaic/lazy messengers, but even at that lame and unclever level, they are still getting exactly what they want out of the WNBA.  The messaging from the league on the whole topic is still vague and inconsistent, the league (whether players, coaches, ownership) still look like they are shouting down/trying to silence voices they disagree with, and more of the poor marketing/league issues the WNBA has always dealt with.

Is this a minor issue being made into a huge culture war fighting point?  Absolutely.  But everyone involved is just chucking 50 gallon drums of gasoline onto the fire.  Just because you think one side is "morally right", doesn't mean that all their actions/commentary/behavior around the topic is commendable and justified...and thinking otherwise is childish and tribal.

Why is this an issue at all? A pedophile wants it to be and there are millions of dum people who will do his bidding to curry favor.

Correction: I forgot dum had a 'b' at the end.

Pakuni

Quote from: JWags85 on August 24, 2026, 04:25:16 PMYet again though, the WNBA can't stop stepping on the proverbial rake in all of this.  Kanter and White are terrible and formulaic/lazy messengers, but even at that lame and unclever level, they are still getting exactly what they want out of the WNBA. 

Genuinely curious as to how you think the league should be handling this or what the league has done that you define as stepping on the rake.
Like, specific examples of league actions/inactions, please.

Pakuni

Somewhere, a pickleball court is being flooded with tears.

NEW YORK (AP) — Former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White are not eligible for the WNBA draft, a person familiar with the decision said Monday.

https://apnews.com/article/wnba-enes-kanter-freedom-royce-white-4b23db1f7817caa2a5de018fa7c94b86

MU1in77

Quote from: Jockey on August 25, 2026, 08:28:37 AMWhy is this an issue at all? A pedophile wants it to be and there are millions of dum people who will do his bidding to curry favor.

Just curious - whose the pedophile you are referring too?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU1in77 on August 25, 2026, 07:10:45 PM
Quote from: Jockey on August 25, 2026, 08:28:37 AMWhy is this an issue at all? A pedophile wants it to be and there are millions of dum people who will do his bidding to curry favor.

Just curious - whose the pedophile you are referring too?

The President
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MU82

Now now ... as far as anybody knows, he's only the long-time best friend of a pedophile. And a pedophile protector who exchanged a transfer into a country-club prison for favorable testimony. And a cringey weirdo who said he wanted to schtupp his daughter. And a creep who used to go backstage to leer at naked teenagers when he ran beauty pageants. And a Supreme Court-confirmed sexual abuser.

But not a proven pedophile. No way!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2026, 10:23:17 AMSomewhere, a pickleball court is being flooded with tears.

NEW YORK (AP) — Former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White are not eligible for the WNBA draft, a person familiar with the decision said Monday.

https://apnews.com/article/wnba-enes-kanter-freedom-royce-white-4b23db1f7817caa2a5de018fa7c94b86

And just wait until he sees the news after he finishes pouting about a line call an octogenarian made
#BanGBWarrior

MU82

From espn.com:

The Indiana Fever-Chicago Sky game Sunday averaged 3.31 million viewers on NBC and Peacock to make it the most-watched regular-season WNBA game since the league's inaugural season in 1997.

It also was the third-most-watched regular-season game ever and peaked at 3.82 million viewers. That is behind only the June 21-22, 1997, opening weekend games that featured the New York Liberty-Los Angeles Sparks (5.04 million) and Charlotte Sting-Phoenix Mercury (3.59 million) matchups, also both on NBC.

Caitlin Clark and the Fever continue to be the league's top draw. They also have set all-time viewing records this season for games on CBS, ESPN and Amazon Prime Video.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

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MuggsyB

The WNBA can end
Quote from: Pakuni on August 25, 2026, 09:44:32 AMGenuinely curious as to how you think the league should be handling this or what the league has done that you define as stepping on the rake.
Like, specific examples of league actions/inactions, please.

The WNBA should do exactly what the WTA is doing and this nonsense would all be over tomorrow.

jesmu84

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 01, 2026, 10:22:58 PMThe WNBA can end
The WNBA should do exactly what the WTA is doing and this nonsense would all be over tomorrow.

What do you mean by "nonsense"?

MuggsyB

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 02, 2026, 04:50:40 PMWhat do you mean by "nonsense"?

It's very simple:  announce the same gender test as the WTA, which all of their players agreed with universally.  It would immediately end the nonsense from Enes Kanter as well as the so called "position" of the WNBA which is essentially fear of stating the obvious. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 02, 2026, 05:43:38 PMIt's very simple:  announce the same gender test as the WTA, which all of their players agreed with universally.  It would immediately end the nonsense from Enes Kanter as well as the so called "position" of the WNBA which is essentially fear of stating the obvious. 

The obvious being the right is using this to distract from the disaster that is the current administration, economy, endless wars in the Middle East, inept management of our allies internationally, destroying the environment, the disparity between your heroes the rich and the poor, and other obvious things?
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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 02, 2026, 06:22:12 PMThe obvious being the right is using this to distract from the disaster that is the current administration, economy, endless wars in the Middle East, inept management of our allies internationally, destroying the environment, the disparity between your heroes the rich and the poor, and other obvious things?

Yup. Using an "issue" that affects a bazillionth of the population to distract, divide and inflame. Pretty pathetic.

Meanwhile, our "leaders" are killing U.S. soldiers and innocent Iranians, screwing American consumers, and fleecing U.S. taxpayers.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jesmu84

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 02, 2026, 06:22:12 PMThe obvious being the right is using this to distract from the disaster that is the current administration, economy, endless wars in the Middle East, inept management of our allies internationally, destroying the environment, the disparity between your heroes the rich and the poor, and other obvious things?
Quote from: MuggsyB on September 02, 2026, 05:43:38 PMIt's very simple:  announce the same gender test as the WTA, which all of their players agreed with universally.  It would immediately end the nonsense from Enes Kanter as well as the so called "position" of the WNBA which is essentially fear of stating the obvious. 

What do you mean by "the obvious"?

lawdog77

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 02, 2026, 06:22:12 PMThe obvious being the right is using this to distract from the disaster that is the current administration, economy, endless wars in the Middle East, inept management of our allies internationally, destroying the environment, the disparity between your heroes the rich and the poor, and other obvious things?
Sports has always been designed to be a distraction from the mess that society/the government is in.The First MLB All Star game was right in the middle of the Great Depression. The First Super Bowl was right when Vietnam was getting hot and heavy.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 02, 2026, 05:43:38 PMIt's very simple:  announce the same gender test as the WTA, which all of their players agreed with universally.  It would immediately end the nonsense from Enes Kanter as well as the so called "position" of the WNBA which is essentially fear of stating the obvious. 

First, it would obviously not end the nonsense from Kanter because the whole thing is a culture war. They'll simply find another way to fight it.

Second, because it's a culture war, there is zero reason for the WNBA to give in to anything. The people engaging in this nonsense have never cared about the WNBA and never will. So ignore them like the NFL did with Big Bunny. They know it's just a vocal minority blathering away. Let them blather.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Sultan on September 03, 2026, 09:02:07 AMFirst, it would obviously not end the nonsense from Kanter because the whole thing is a culture war. They'll simply find another way to fight it.

Second, because it's a culture war, there is zero reason for the WNBA to give in to anything. The people engaging in this nonsense have never cared about the WNBA and never will. So ignore them like the NFL did with Big Bunny. They know it's just a vocal minority blathering away. Let them blather.


Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on September 03, 2026, 08:38:39 AMSports has always been designed to be a distraction from the mess that society/the government is in.The First MLB All Star game was right in the middle of the Great Depression. The First Super Bowl was right when Vietnam was getting hot and heavy.

The first marathon was held right when Persia was invading Greece.
Very convenient.

The Sultan

Quote from: The Sultan on September 03, 2026, 09:02:07 AMFirst, it would obviously not end the nonsense from Kanter because the whole thing is a culture war. They'll simply find another way to fight it.

Second, because it's a culture war, there is zero reason for the WNBA to give in to anything. The people engaging in this nonsense have never cared about the WNBA and never will. So ignore them like the NFL did with Big Bunny. They know it's just a vocal minority blathering away. Let them blather.

Right on cue...

https://x.com/enesfreedom/status/2095602085463216611?s=46&t=ppua9BCUAa7dWM9-SthPmg
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Douchenozzles be douchenozzles.

He'll lose in court, just as he usually lost when he was on the court.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Ignore him, he's being paid to do this.

JWags85

Cathy stepping down/retiring at the end of the season.  BIG BIG moment for the league going forward.

cheebs09

Quote from: JWags85 on September 04, 2026, 10:27:15 AMCathy stepping down/retiring at the end of the season.  BIG BIG moment for the league going forward.

Maybe Val gets involved?

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