Sheek in the Portal?

[LAZER]

Do you really think an unproven 4-star redshirt is gonna get $2 Mil? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems high to me - especially if Parham is getting 1.5

I think he was probably just using it as an example, but if someone like SLU is desperate after missing out on other targets, going from $500k to $1 mil and a starting spot with big minutes could tip the scale.

[tower912]

In the way back machine, we used to lament that neither Crean nor Buzz could land quality bigs.  And we used to joke that you couldn't just go down to the corner market and find one.

Well, now you can.  But the corner store is a Porsche dealership.

And you are going to pay above sticker.

Or, if you prefer the housing market, more buyers than sellers and bidding wars for every decent house.

[GoFastAndWin]

Good grief.

Yes! 🙌
Daily Double!! 🐴 🏀

[MU82]

Do you genuinely think that isn't going to happen at any point?

Do I genuinely think what isn't going to happen at any point? What are you asking?

[Small Orange Soda]

Do I genuinely think what isn't going to happen at any point? What are you asking?

Caedin being part of the rotation and getting minutes in the first half of games.

[Jockey]

I think he was probably just using it as an example, but if someone like SLU is desperate after missing out on other targets, going from $500k to $1 mil and a starting spot with big minutes could tip the scale.

Except he said keeping Sheek would cost MU $3.5 mil.

[TallTitan34]

Do you really think an unproven 4-star redshirt is gonna get $2 Mil? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems high to me - especially if Parham is getting 1.5

Yes.

Which is why it's a smart move for Sheek and a smart move for MU not to match.

[TallTitan34]

Except he said keeping Sheek would cost MU $3.5 mil.

He literally explained that included the estimated cost to bump others up as well.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Let's say Fru averages 28 mpg. You honestly believe that Hamilton and Clark can't cover 12 minutes between them?

Oh so Hamilton "can't play" because he missed some bunnies at the rim? Or maybe got lost in a defensive rotation or two? Sure, he didn't perform up to Shaka's hype of him. We all
know he busts his a$$ and maybe is a bit confident and amped at times. I'd prefer that to unsure of himself, scared, and sulking around pouting about things not going his way on the court.

Sure, they can "cover" 12 minutes between them. So could I, in that sense. However, there is no evidence that can contribute to winning basketball in that time, and loads of evidence that they can't.

"Got lost in a defensive rotation or two"? I don't think I've ever seen someone who played as many minutes as he did be so absolutely unaware of where he was supposed to be defensively so often.

[Jockey]

He literally explained that included the estimated cost to bump others up as well.

Yeah.  So it would cost MU 3.5 mil. I never said it didn't include that the bump for others.

[wadesworld]

Let's say Fru averages 28 mpg. You honestly believe that Hamilton and Clark can't cover 12 minutes between them?

Oh so Hamilton "can't play" because he missed some bunnies at the rim? Or maybe got lost in a defensive rotation or two? Sure, he didn't perform up to Shaka's hype of him. We all
know he busts his a$$ and maybe is a bit confident and amped at times. I'd prefer that to unsure of himself, scared, and sulking around pouting about things not going his way on the court.

And Clark has "a long way to go". Can you think of something that was once difficult in your life until it wasn't. Something that confounded you and then you worked at it until it became so easy? Not trying to sound like Dodds here, but I have a lot of faith that these guys will get better.

And for dear sakes, Trevor Powell became a very, very good player by his JR year. His first couple years, he could barely catch an entry pass into the post. And yet there was a ton of buzz about his talents out of HS. He lived up to it in his last two years.

Cut these guys some slack!! Stop with the "18" references in lieu of his name. Some of you have coached and should know better. It's Caedin freaking Hamilton, and he's family, business or not. And maybe I just watched the wrong couple games, but I saw Josh Clark really running the floor well for his height and even blocking a few shots pretty naturally. Omg he was out of position a couple times on D 😱 during his FR season!

I'm sorry if I focused on one poster here, as I do "get" his logical concerns. I'm just tired of hearing the sky is falling 24/7 regarding Hamilton & Clark.  I really think Clark is going to be very good, and I think Caedin will be more than adequate. We're talking about 15 minutes max between them. Let's find out what they're made of.

Shaka cannot rely on Josh or Caedin to play regular minutes. The good thing is he knows that, which is why he got Fru. Now he'll have to go find a quality backup to Fru with Sheek gone.

But yeah the whole calling him "18" is one of the lamer things I've seen on Scoop. And there's a lot. Says a lot about posters who think that's some creative burn.

[MuggsyB]

Shaka cannot rely on Josh or Caedin to play regular minutes. The good thing is he knows that, which is why he got Fru. Now he'll have to go find a quality backup to Fru with Sheek gone.

But yeah the whole calling him "18" is one of the lamer things I've seen on Scoop. And there's a lot. Says a lot about posters who think that's some creative burn.

I fully expect Shaka to find a serviceable back-up big.  Yes.  This "18" shtick is stupid. 

[MU82]

Caedin being part of the rotation and getting minutes in the first half of games.

Had Sheek stayed, no.

If we add another big from the portal, no.

If we don't add another big, yes, someone is gonna have to play when Fru needs a rest or gets fouls.

[Jay Bee]

Had Sheek stayed, no.

If we add another big from the portal, no.

If we don't add another big, yes, someone is gonna have to play when Fru needs a rest or gets fouls.

False! He will, and always was, get minutes.

[tower912]

False! He will, and always was, get minutes.

You are so fetishizing Caedin you are willing to abandon grammar.

[Jay Bee]

So fetishizing Caedin you are willing to abandon grammar.

Point it is showing how backwards this situation is.

#NoMoreGuards

[Small Orange Soda]

Had Sheek stayed, no.

If we add another big from the portal, no.

If we don't add another big, yes, someone is gonna have to play when Fru needs a rest or gets fouls.

Your second point is only going to apply if he gets someone who Shaka thinks is better than Caedin. And if the counterpoint is 'Why would he get someone who he thinks is worse than Caedin?', well, I got a Josh Clark I can sell you.

[brewcity77]

Do you really think an unproven 4-star redshirt is gonna get $2 Mil? I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems high to me - especially if Parham is getting 1.5

Do I think an unproven 4-star redshirt deserves $2M? No.

Do I think that's right around what SLU offered him? Yes.

[MU82]

Your second point is only going to apply if he gets someone who Shaka thinks is better than Caedin. And if the counterpoint is 'Why would he get someone who he thinks is worse than Caedin?', well, I got a Josh Clark I can sell you.

Good for you. Never change!

[burger]

Trying to buy their way into the Big East....If St. Louis me thinks you made a terrible mistake.....And this action would have the opposite effect....

[barfolomew]

I don't know why people can't see this.  Sheek knew.

He knew.
He knew like you know about a good melon.

[forgetful]

Do I think an unproven 4-star redshirt deserves $2M? No.

Do I think that's right around what SLU offered him? Yes.

Based on numbers I've heard for other players, I highly highly doubt he was offered anywhere near $2M.

[JoanofArcMascot]

Had Sheek stayed, no.

If we add another big from the portal, no.

If we don't add another big, yes, someone is gonna have to play when Fru needs a rest or gets fouls.

I would rather have Owens, Parham, Clark get the backup center minutes than Hamilton. It's really scary that Hamilton is still in the program because Shaka's bizarre blind spot regarding him means he could make the mistake of playing him in games again. Shaka already sabotaged one season playing Hamilton and now it could happen again. Pay whatever necessary to keep Pearson and show Hamilton the door.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I would rather have Owens, Parham, Clark get the backup center minutes than Hamilton. It's really scary that Hamilton is still in the program because Shaka's bizarre blind spot regarding him means he could make the mistake of playing him in games again. Shaka already sabotaged one season playing Hamilton and now it could happen again. Pay whatever necessary to keep Pearson and show Hamilton the door.

LOL

[MU82]

I would rather have Owens, Parham, Clark get the backup center minutes than Hamilton. It's really scary that Hamilton is still in the program because Shaka's bizarre blind spot regarding him means he could make the mistake of playing him in games again. Shaka already sabotaged one season playing Hamilton and now it could happen again. Pay whatever necessary to keep Pearson and show Hamilton the door.

Cool.