Sheek in the Portal?

[Hards Alumni]

Based on numbers I've heard for other players, I highly highly doubt he was offered anywhere near $2M.

I have bad news for you.

[Hards Alumni]

Based on numbers I've heard for other players, I highly highly doubt he was offered anywhere near $2M.

I have bad news for you.

I would rather have Owens, Parham, Clark get the backup center minutes than Hamilton. It's really scary that Hamilton is still in the program because Shaka's bizarre blind spot regarding him means he could make the mistake of playing him in games again. Shaka already sabotaged one season playing Hamilton and now it could happen again. Pay whatever necessary to keep Pearson and show Hamilton the door.

Owens is 6'7.  Parham is 6'8.  Clark is as bad on defense as Hamilton.  There is nothing scary about a player returning to the program.  Hamilton alone was not the reason Marquette lost 20 games last year.  Sheek is gone, come to terms with it and get a grip.

[avid1010]

I don't believe Sheek left because Hamilton stayed. 

I don't believe Hamilton is capable of giving us meaningful minutes.

I have no idea what Sheek looked liked in a year at MU against Hamilton, work-ethic wise, teammate wise, etc...

I believe Hamilton has done everything Shaka has asked him to do.  I believe he is an amazing kid, and I hope like hell he proves me and everyone wrong.

In a world of 15 scholarship players, I have no issue with Shaka keeping Hamilton around.  Given that I don't believe him staying was the reason Sheek left, I think an argument can be made that we should be happy Hamilton stayed and didn't transfer to a MM.  I'm very hopeful that he continues to work his butt off, is a solid practice player, and in situational minutes (along with Clark), can help MU this year.

[Hards Alumni]

careful man, that is way too even measured for this board.

The only thing you forgot to say is that it is freaking April and we have two open scholarships and that meaningful basketball doesn't return for SEVEN whole months.

[muwarrior69]

I don't know. It sounds like the money may have been too good to turn down, even if he thought Shaka walked on water.

Can you imagine what Jim Chones would be getting in this wild wild west of college sports.

[Viper]

Can you imagine what Jim Chones would be getting in this wild wild west of college sports.

...let's just say, if Al looked in the Chones refrigerator, it would no longer be empty.

[Uncle Rico]

Can you imagine what Jim Chones would be getting in this wild wild west of college sports.

He wouldn't sniff a roster today

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

He wouldn't sniff a roster today

Jim Chones is just a better Matt Heldt.

[Uncle Rico]

Jim Chones is just a better Matt Heldt.

Don't insult Matt Heldt like that.  Chones could work the popcorn stand

[Elonsmusk]

I don't believe Sheek left because Hamilton stayed. 

I don't believe Hamilton is capable of giving us meaningful minutes.

I have no idea what Sheek looked liked in a year at MU against Hamilton, work-ethic wise, teammate wise, etc...

I believe Hamilton has done everything Shaka has asked him to do.  I believe he is an amazing kid, and I hope like hell he proves me and everyone wrong.

In a world of 15 scholarship players, I have no issue with Shaka keeping Hamilton around.  Given that I don't believe him staying was the reason Sheek left, I think an argument can be made that we should be happy Hamilton stayed and didn't transfer to a MM.  I'm very hopeful that he continues to work his butt off, is a solid practice player, and in situational minutes (along with Clark), can help MU this year.

Well said.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

False! He will, and always was, get minutes.

getting not get

[Jockey]

Do I think an unproven 4-star redshirt deserves $2M? No.

Do I think that's right around what SLU offered him? Yes.

Thanks, Brew.

[SchnitzelBoy]

I know they've invested plenty of $$$ but does SLU really have 2m to spend on a center?

[Hards Alumni]

I know they've invested plenty of $$$ but does SLU really have 2m to spend on a center?

Yes, easily.

[1SE]

Yes, easily.

Then why not get a good one? Why didn't they spend 3 or 3.5 on  Fru? If they have 2 mil to splash on Sheek, they could have gone top shelf.

[Hards Alumni]

Then why not get a good one? Why didn't they spend 3 or 3.5 on  Fru? If they have 2 mil to splash on Sheek, they could have gone top shelf.

Because $2m isn't $3m.  Or they feel that Sheek might be a top shelf player.  Not to mention that they'll probably have to overspend since they're in a mid-major conference with a much smaller TV deal.  Less exposure for the players.

I don't know the motivation, but you can easily google as to why SLU has money to spend.

[The Sultan]

Then why not get a good one? Why didn't they spend 3 or 3.5 on  Fru? If they have 2 mil to splash on Sheek, they could have gone top shelf.

Rumor is that they thought they had Drew Scharnowski from Belmont locked up, but Duke swept in at the last minute. So them turning to Sheek is a bit of a last minute move.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Then why not get a good one? Why didn't they spend 3 or 3.5 on  Fru? If they have 2 mil to splash on Sheek, they could have gone top shelf.

Perhaps they missed on their targets, had resources and got a little desperate and overpaid to secure a high-upside prospect.

[Tha Hound]

My concern with Hamilton is purely about whether Shaka leans on him as the backup C next year. If we go out and add another capable big, fine, Hamilton on the roster doesn't bother me. But if we don't do that because Shaka thinks he can actually rely on him to contribute, that's a serious problem.

It sounds like the Sheek news caught the staff off guard so we should give them some time to find a replacement. But if there's been no progress in the next couple weeks that would not feel great.

[jfp61]

This whole Caedin Hamilton chatter is fine. The coach should be judged on who he runs off and who he opts not too run off.

But I will say this staff did clearly run off the 2 players on the roster last year who were worse than Caedin, in tre and sean.

[Galway Eagle]

But I will say this staff did clearly run off the 2 players on the roster last year who were worse than Caedin, in tre and sean.

If I recall one of the advanced stats sites had Cardin as the second worst high major D1 player.

[lawdog77]

My concern with Hamilton is purely about whether Shaka leans on him as the backup C next year. If we go out and add another capable big, fine, Hamilton on the roster doesn't bother me. But if we don't do that because Shaka thinks he can actually rely on him to contribute, that's a serious problem.

Caedin wasn't horrible in the UConn game coming off the bench. I think if Clark can improve, Shaka might be able to have one serviceable 10 min a game big between the two. My concern is 3 point shooting. Hoping Phillips improves his all around game to see the court more. If not, I believe this is where we need to get another rental.

[jfp61]

If I recall one of the advanced stats sites had Cardin as the second worst high major D1 player.

Probably filtered by qualified number of possessions or minutes.

Sean and Tre were worse than him.

[WhiteTrash]

This whole Caedin Hamilton chatter is fine. The coach should be judged on who he runs off and who he opts not too run off.

But I will say this staff did clearly run off the 2 players on the roster last year who were worse than Caedin, in tre and sean.

I disagree. IMO, Caedin was our worst player. Again, IMO, when he did something well, it felt like it was an accident. He doesn't even look comfortable playing basketball.

[Billy Hoyle]

I know they've invested plenty of $$$ but does SLU really have 2m to spend on a center?

If Nepo Brat Ross Chaifetz wants a new center, especially one poached from evil Marquette, daddy is going to buy one for him.

Chaifetz is actively trying to buy SLU's way into the Big East.