Sheek in the Portal?

[Billy Hoyle]

This just makes me wonder if we're headed down a path where a 30 year old who had their time in the NBA ends up being able to come back and finish out years of "eligibility."  All limits on money, age, years of eligibility, etc seem to be eroding gradually over time... eventually I could see college BB will be a minor pro league used before and after an NBA career for some.

One that has held up is that you only get 5 years from HS graduation. So, if one graduated in 2024, they can play one year of outside competition in that sport before enrolling in college, then every other year of outside competition starts the clock. The media doesn't cover the denials of players who try to come back outside of that window and are denied; it doesn't create outrage.

The sky isn't falling to the point where LeBron can come back to play college ball.

[Uncle Rico]

But I hear the NCAA is a dead man walking. Who cares about NCAA rules. 

It is.  The Big 18 and SEC will be breaking away at some point.

[SchnitzelBoy]

If Shaka is playing 3D chess... They're essentially "loaning" Sheek out to SLU for a season to get 30+ games as a starter under a solid coach.

He truly might not be ready for extended run in the Big East, but the A10 should be more forgiving for a skinny-but-tall combo forward who just turned 18.

But after he gains experience in his hometown and Schertz leaves SLU after a good season, perhaps MU could lure Sheek back.

[The Sultan]

If Shaka is playing 3D chess... They're essentially "loaning" Sheek out to SLU for a season to get 30+ games as a starter under a solid coach.

He truly might not be ready for extended run in the Big East, but the A10 should be more forgiving for a skinny-but-tall combo forward who just turned 18.

But after he gains experience in his hometown and Schertz leaves SLU after a good season, perhaps MU could lure Sheek back.

I think all of this is 100% unrealistic.

[MU82]

Then again.. 20%+ to% rate, only 16.0% DR%, and, *gasp* 61.1% from the line.. scoopers may turn on him before we know it.

Yup. As folks were talking about trying to keep Fru for multiple years, one thing that popped into my brain was, "Yeah, but what happens when Scoop gets sick of him for some perceived shortcoming and wants to toss him to the curb?"

Before you know it, some will even be referring to him only by his number.

[Zog from Margo]

If Shaka is playing 3D chess... They're essentially "loaning" Sheek out to SLU for a season to get 30+ games as a starter under a solid coach.

He truly might not be ready for extended run in the Big East, but the A10 should be more forgiving for a skinny-but-tall combo forward who just turned 18.

But after he gains experience in his hometown and Schertz leaves SLU after a good season, perhaps MU could lure Sheek back.

Why wouldn't Schertz take him to the new gig, which likely will have more resources?

[Scoop Snoop]

Yup. As folks were talking about trying to keep Fru for multiple years, one thing that popped into my brain was, "Yeah, but what happens when Scoop gets sick of him for some perceived shortcoming and wants to toss him to the curb?"

Before you know it, some will even be referring to him only by his number.

"Perceived shortcoming"? Jay Bee already has ID'd several. Fru probably gets a pass on the first game, but after that Willie should have a name picked out, so no need to refer to him by his number.

[willie warrior]

If Shaka is playing 3D chess... They're essentially "loaning" Sheek out to SLU for a season to get 30+ games as a starter under a solid coach.

He truly might not be ready for extended run in the Big East, but the A10 should be more forgiving for a skinny-but-tall combo forward who just turned 18.

But after he gains experience in his hometown and Schertz leaves SLU after a good season, perhaps MU could lure Sheek back.

Anything is possible in the wild west of college basketball.

[Scoop Snoop]

Why wouldn't Schertz take him to the new gig, which likely will have more resources?

Exactly. Sheek has left the building, and he's not coming back. He gowne.

[Tarragona]

Not really.  The A10 isn't exactly high major basketball.

SLU just went 28-5 overall, 15-3 in conference going into the NCAA Tournament and they were a 9 seed, playing playing a bunch of games on FanDuel Sports Network, ESPN+, CBSSN and Tru TV.  Their conference tournament was aired on USA Network and CBSSN.  Prior to the NCAA Tournament, their biggest TV broadcasted games were three ESPN2 games on Friday nights.

If Marquette goes 28-5, 15-3 (call it 16-4) in conference next year they're a 2 seed at worst.

You've said this multiple times but it's misplaced.

SLU's 9 seed was more about their non-conference schedule than it was their league.

Their league was good enough. Their non-conference strength of schedule was 316. Improve the non-conference schedule, and improve the seed. Play the better non top 5 league teams and don't schedule too many cupcake state programs. They still have to win games of course.

It's true they are having issues getting top 5 league teams to play them home and home or neutral site. But you can still construct a top 100 schedule in spite of that. Several other good non top 5 league programs did that.

[JakeBarnes]

You can either be a SLUt for cash, or play for Shaka (working on the tshirt so it is ready for the Sheek announcement)

[Uncle Rico]

You've said this multiple times but it's misplaced.

SLU's 9 seed was more about their non-conference schedule than it was their league.

Their league was good enough. Their non-conference strength of schedule was 316. Improve the non-conference schedule, and improve the seed. Play the better non top 5 league teams and don't schedule too many cupcake state programs. They still have to win games of course.

It's true they are having issues getting top 5 league teams to play them home and home or neutral site. But you can still construct a top 100 schedule in spite of that. Several other good non top 5 league programs did that.

The A-10 was farther behind the Big East at 7 in KenPom conference metrics and farther away at 7 from the Big East being 5 than the Big East was from the number 1 conference.

The A-10 was mediocre

[The_Blaze]

With the new "5 in 5" rule which reverts back to only 1 transfer allowed without sitting a season does this transfer count as Sheek's one? Based on my brief research it sounds like it would likely be his one if "5 in 5" is ratified soon but this will not be known for certain until all the rules/criteria are formally communicated. 

If this will be his only free transfer without sitting that makes Sheek's decision to go to SLU more difficult now since he will not have a chance to go back to a high level program with more exposure, if he performs well, without sitting a season.         

[lawdog77]

The most disappointing thing about this transfer?  Not getting the chance to see Tower's headlines when Sheek dominates. Such as, "Sheek, and ye shall find.", or "Le freak, c'est Sheek", etc

[wadesworld]

You've said this multiple times but it's misplaced.

SLU's 9 seed was more about their non-conference schedule than it was their league.

Their league was good enough. Their non-conference strength of schedule was 316. Improve the non-conference schedule, and improve the seed. Play the better non top 5 league teams and don't schedule too many cupcake state programs. They still have to win games of course.

It's true they are having issues getting top 5 league teams to play them home and home or neutral site. But you can still construct a top 100 schedule in spite of that. Several other good non top 5 league programs did that.

What is misplaced?  The A10 is not a mid major?  The biggest TV games for them were 3 ESPN2 Friday night games?

Their league gave them a total of 2 Q1 opportunities.  It gave them 5 Q3 games, 6 Q4 games.

I know you think they're going to be Gonzaga of the A10, you've said so multiple times.  They aren't.  Can they consistently win the A10?  They should, the A10 stinks.  But instead of being a 1 seed when they're dominant in their league, they'll be a 7 seed.

[Uncle Rico]

What is misplaced?  The A10 is not a mid major?  The biggest TV games for them were 3 ESPN2 Friday night games?

Their league gave them a total of 2 Q1 opportunities.  It gave them 5 Q3 games, 6 Q4 games.

I know you think they're going to be Gonzaga of the A10, you've said so multiple times.  They aren't.  Can they consistently win the A10?  They should, the A10 stinks.  But instead of being a 1 seed when they're dominant in their league, they'll be a 7 seed.

There's no room for another Gonzaga unless some middie wins big in March and they'll have to have continuity in the coaches chair.  Ain't happening

[Tarragona]

What is misplaced?  The A10 is not a mid major?  The biggest TV games for them were 3 ESPN2 Friday night games?

Their league gave them a total of 2 Q1 opportunities.  It gave them 5 Q3 games, 6 Q4 games.

I know you think they're going to be Gonzaga of the A10, you've said so multiple times.  They aren't.  Can they consistently win the A10?  They should, the A10 stinks.  But instead of being a 1 seed when they're dominant in their league, they'll be a 7 seed.

Your conclusion that they can't improve a 9 seed is misplaced. Your conclusion that is was the league and had nothing to do with their non-conference schedule is misplaced.

[wadesworld]

Your conclusion that they can't improve a 9 seed is misplaced. Your conclusion that is was the league and had nothing to do with their non-conference schedule is misplaced.

There's a reason MO Senators are spending time worrying about what conference SLU is in.

[Scoop Snoop]

There's a reason MO Senators are spending time worrying about what conference SLU is in.

Spot on! SLU is "misplaced", but "the messenger" hasn't figured that out yet.

 

[JakeBarnes]

There's a reason MO Senators are spending time worrying about what conference SLU is in.

Even the Senator from Virginia that represents Missouri is concerned.

[Tarragona]

There's a reason MO Senators are spending time worrying about what conference SLU is in.

Yes and that reason is that grifter Senator you mention, is trying to deflect from the Kansas City Chiefs relocating to Kansas, among his other failures. The next sincere thought he has will be the first.

And none of that has anything to do with what I said.

[Tarragona]

Even the Senator from Virginia that represents Missouri is concerned.

They have 2 bad Senators. Wisconsin has a bad senator that spent the 4th of July in Russia one year. Plenty of those to go around unfortunately.

[mileskishnish72]

Kwicher bitchin'.  I'll put our Bay State senators up with the worst.

[Jay Bee]

Their league was good enough. Their non-conference strength of schedule was 316. Improve the non-conference schedule, and improve the seed. Play the better non top 5 league teams and don't schedule too many cupcake state programs. They still have to win games of course.

Uh oh.. let me look at some facts. Their KenPom NC strength of schedule excluding tourney games was 316. However, the selection committee has a different NC SOS -- it was 317.

Anyway, their two tourney games dramatically improved their SOS.. Kenpom shot up to 113.. and the NET NC SOS rose to 111.

So... that's good, right? What happened to their NET ranking?

At Selection time.. they were 31. After all games were played... ready for the big jump?  29.

Had they played Michigan in the regular season and WON.. yeah, I can see a seed jump.. but the data shows this: their crappy league handcuffed them (and not in a good way, hey).

[Tarragona]

Uh oh.. let me look at some facts. Their KenPom NC strength of schedule excluding tourney games was 316. However, the selection committee has a different NC SOS -- it was 317.

Anyway, their two tourney games dramatically improved their SOS.. Kenpom shot up to 113.. and the NET NC SOS rose to 111.

So... that's good, right? What happened to their NET ranking?

At Selection time.. they were 31. After all games were played... ready for the big jump?  29.

Had they played Michigan in the regular season and WON.. yeah, I can see a seed jump.. but the data shows this: their crappy league handcuffed them (and not in a good way, hey).

That's a lot of words to say if they had a better non-conference schedule they would have had a better seed.