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Elonsmusk

Quote from: JTJ3 on March 31, 2026, 07:18:09 PMThe system is great.  I would love it if he ended up staying.

We just sucked at making open shots for most of the season.

I was a fan of the system in the Kolek years, yet have come to believe the system is TOO, two dimensional.  It's easier to guard when you know a team will either shoot a 3 or attempt to get all the way to the basket.  As I've watched the tournament I've seen a lot of teams run inbounds plays from under the basket that free up a good midrange shot along the baseline.  Have seen a lot of guys hit midrange shots.

High D-1 college players are so skilled, shooting shots from the FT line, elbow, baseline, in my opinion would convert at a higher percentage than some of the reckless high degree of difficulty at the basket shots we've taken.

We finished 4th in KenPom on 2pt FG distance, yet 146th in 2pt FG% - and I'd argue because a lot of our at the basket attempts were high degree of difficulty shots.

Might be time to zag back against the trend.  Pitino, and Izzo teams shot a lot of midrange.  In fact Michigan State 346th in 2pt FG distance, yet shot 53.4% good for 110th.  Arizona ranks 363rd in 3pt FG attempt percentage.

jfp61

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 31, 2026, 07:49:40 PMWe finished 4th in KenPom on 2pt FG distance, yet 146th in 2pt FG% - and I'd argue because a lot of our at the basket attempts were high degree of difficulty shots.

They weren't difficult we just sucked at layups.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 31, 2026, 07:49:40 PMI was a fan of the system in the Kolek years, yet have come to believe the system is TOO, two dimensional.  It's easier to guard when you know a team will either shoot a 3 or attempt to get all the way to the basket.  As I've watched the tournament I've seen a lot of teams run inbounds plays from under the basket that free up a good midrange shot along the baseline.  Have seen a lot of guys hit midrange shots.

High D-1 college players are so skilled, shooting shots from the FT line, elbow, baseline, in my opinion would convert at a higher percentage than some of the reckless high degree of difficulty at the basket shots we've taken.

We finished 4th in KenPom on 2pt FG distance, yet 146th in 2pt FG% - and I'd argue because a lot of our at the basket attempts were high degree of difficulty shots.

Might be time to zag back against the trend.  Pitino, and Izzo teams shot a lot of midrange.  In fact Michigan State 346th in 2pt FG distance, yet shot 53.4% good for 110th.  Arizona ranks 363rd in 3pt FG attempt percentage

No.  Get better players. Take open 3s and shots at the rim.

brewcity77

Quote from: jfp61 on March 31, 2026, 07:50:34 PMThey weren't difficult we just sucked at layups.

Yeah, Chase and NJ were poor finishing at the rim. Caedin and Josh even worse. They also dug a big hole because Sean and Zaide were awful. Hopefully attrition helps in that regard as 4 of those 6 should be gone.

JTJ3

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 31, 2026, 08:24:31 PMYeah, Chase and NJ were poor finishing at the rim. Caedin and Josh even worse. They also dug a big hole because Sean and Zaide were awful. Hopefully attrition helps in that regard as 4 of those 6 should be gone.

Caedin or Josh included in that 4?

DoctorV

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 31, 2026, 08:24:31 PMYeah, Chase and NJ were poor finishing at the rim. Caedin and Josh even worse. They also dug a big hole because Sean and Zaide were awful. Hopefully attrition helps in that regard as 4 of those 6 should be gone.

Problem is that I don't think these guys were bad, I just think that TyKo and Kam were exceptionally good.

Those two are NBA guards, and have very elite skills.
Finishing at the rim and passing at elite levels.

Jay Bee

Quote from: DoctorV on March 31, 2026, 11:55:00 PMProblem is that I don't think these guys were bad, I just think that TyKo and Kam were exceptionally good.

Those two are NBA guards, and have very elite skills.
Finishing at the rim and passing at elite levels.

Yup. We knew our 2FG% was in trouble before the season began.

Quote from: Jay Bee on September 14, 2025, 10:47:41 AMeFG% - This is our only hope for sustaining or improving on last year's Adj OE rankings. Our 2FG% of 54.7% ranked #52 in the land - very good. We lose Kam's high volume and super strong mark of 58.6%. Gulp. JoLp was at 55.0%. Now, maybe getting Royce and Ben shots inside more often helps combat things.. but our 2FG% is in trouble. Let's hope for something like 52.5%.

We finished the season at 52.6%, right where a reasonable projection had us pegged (pawz).
The portal is NOT closed.

Shooter McGavin

I'm sure Brew knows the numbers well.  But it seems to me that NJ was light years ahead of Chase finishing at the rim in traffic.  He seems to be able to contort his body to get up a legitimate shot. Chase just seemed to throw the ball up in the air when his layups were contested with no chance of going in.  And because of that didn't get all of the fouls calls he could have gotten because he looked out of control.  Surprised to hear NJ and Chase in the same sentence in that regard. 
TRGV

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 31, 2026, 06:14:45 PMMiss the days before NIL and the portal when programs didn't hire dads or coaches affiliated with recruits to get them to attend your school.

When was that? The NCAA had to adopt legislation prohibiting the hiring of family members or former HS or AAU coaches of student-athletes for BS non- coaching administrative positions (e.g., assistant to the traveling secretary). If they wanted to hire one of these people (IAWPs) they had to use a countable coaching position.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 09:11:53 AMWhen was that? The NCAA had to adopt legislation prohibiting the hiring of family members or former HS or AAU coaches of student-athletes for BS non- coaching administrative positions (e.g., assistant to the traveling secretary). If they wanted to hire one of these people (IAWPs) they had to use a countable coaching position.

I've been told this kind of thing didn't happen and kids chose their destinations based on the school. 
If you're still mad about a nickname, examine your life

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 09:11:53 AMWhen was that? The NCAA had to adopt legislation prohibiting the hiring of family members or former HS or AAU coaches of student-athletes for BS non- coaching administrative positions (e.g., assistant to the traveling secretary). If they wanted to hire one of these people (IAWPs) they had to use a countable coaching position.

When was this? Didn't Willard do that to get whitehead?
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Galway Eagle on Today at 09:31:05 AMWhen was this? Didn't Willard do that to get whitehead?

I don't know Whitehead's situation. IAWP was implemented around 2010 or 11. You could hire one of these individuals as a countable coach. One unintended consequence was that if a coach was demoted to DOBO or another non-coaching position, schools had to put in a waiver request for every kid on the roster the coach had worked with over the previous two years.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

brewcity77

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:08:54 AMI'm sure Brew knows the numbers well.  But it seems to me that NJ was light years ahead of Chase finishing at the rim in traffic.  He seems to be able to contort his body to get up a legitimate shot. Chase just seemed to throw the ball up in the air when his layups were contested with no chance of going in.  And because of that didn't get all of the fouls calls he could have gotten because he looked out of control.  Surprised to hear NJ and Chase in the same sentence in that regard. 

Per Hoop-Explorer, NJ was 54.6% at the rim and Chase was 55.1% for the season.

However, in conference play only, NJ was at 57.1% while Chase was at 51.0%, so the recency bias would definitely favor NJ and show he was improving as the year went on while Chase was going in the opposite direction.


Uncle Rico

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Zog from Margo

Congratulations to Nevada Smith! He was part of some pretty fun teams at MU. Hopefully, Shaka finds another Xs and Os guru for his staff.

swoopem

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 10:46:17 AMCongratulations to Nevada Smith! He was part of some pretty fun teams at MU. Hopefully, Shaka finds another Xs and Os guru for his staff.

Why not continue to run the same system? If Shaka couldn't learn the system over the last 5 years then we have major problems.

Hopefully we replace Nevada with a stud recruiter
Bring back FFP!!!

Galway Eagle

Quote from: swoopem on Today at 11:06:49 AMWhy not continue to run the same system? If Shaka couldn't learn the system over the last 5 years then we have major problems.

Hopefully we replace Nevada with a stud recruiter

6 yrs he was on Shakas staff his last year at Texas as well.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

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The Sultan

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jfp61


Zog from Margo

Quote from: swoopem on Today at 11:06:49 AMWhy not continue to run the same system? If Shaka couldn't learn the system over the last 5 years then we have major problems.

Hopefully we replace Nevada with a stud recruiter

Hopefully, the guys who are supposed to be the recruiting studs on the staff are evaluated and necessary adjustments made. Every staff should have a guy that excels at the Xs and Os, IMO. I also didn't say the Xs and Os guru needed to be an offensive guru. The D and rebounding needed plenty of work too.

Uncle Rico

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