Nevada Smith Gone?

[MUbiz]

Marquette posted a open position for an assistant coach today:

https://employment.marquette.edu/postings/24623

[Uncle Rico]

Marquette posted a open position for an assistant coach today:

https://employment.marquette.edu/postings/24623

Great opportunity for many scoopers to show their basketball coaching chops.

[GoldenWarrior11]

We have a Center for Peacemaking?

[tower912]

We have a Center for Peacemaking?

Scoop needs one.

[Zog from Margo]

I'm not surprised that this past season would lead to some staff change.

[tower912]

If so, congratulations on the head coaching gig.  Thanks for the offense that brought us TKo, Oso, Omax, Kam, Stevie, Joplin, Nigel, Royce, Adrien.  I enjoyed the principles and the consistent open looks.

[onepost]

A buddy of mine said we're actually down a couple assistants right now...and Trilly Donovan hinted that we could have multiple shakeups on our staff - so maybe Nevada isn't gone just yet

[Zog from Margo]

Not sure why Haynes was suspended, but wonder if that's all resolved.

[DienerTime34]

Maybe we can get his brother, Idaho Smith.

[onepost]

Haynes was my guess, maybe Rivers since he has a relationship with JR Blount.
Jeremy Ballard would be a name to watch to join the staff in any case.

[tower912]

We have a Center for Peacemaking?

If we did, he wouldn't be an aircraft carrier.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Haynes was my guess, maybe Rivers since he has a relationship with JR Blount.
Jeremy Ballard would be a name to watch to join the staff in any case.

Another name I wondered about was Luke Yaklich (both former Smart assistants at various stops).

[onepost]

Another name I wondered about was Luke Yaklich (both former Smart assistants at various stops).

Would love Yaklich for defense - especially if we were to add Evans and Byrd.

[Shooter McGavin]

If so, congratulations on the head coaching gig.  Thanks for the offense that brought us TKo, Oso, Omax, Kam, Stevie, Joplin, Nigel, Royce, Adrien.  I enjoyed the principles and the consistent open looks.

If you have talent, you can definitely excel in his system. 

But I agree thank you for a fun offense.  Good luck at the next gig. 

[Biggie Clausen]

One of the job requirements is the "ability to evaluate talent and recruit student athletes who can be successful at Marquette."  Glad they're putting this on the JD as a requirement going forward.  Too bad the other assistants on the staff were grandfathered in.

[Captain Quette]

This coaching staff has underperformed for several years relative to talent evaluation and roster composition. Also, it did not appear that we had any offensive system, end of game plays, or out of bounds plays.

Never want to see anyone lose their job but it is time for a change.

Wouldn't mind taking Kentucky approach and hiring the dad of a 5 star.

[Jay Bee]

"- Ability to avoid #TheAltercation situations"

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He might be.  But i don't think they would post the job before he has an offer.

[jesmu84]

This coaching staff has underperformed for several years relative to talent evaluation and roster composition. Also, it did not appear that we had any offensive system, end of game plays, or out of bounds plays.

Never want to see anyone lose their job but it is time for a change.

Wouldn't mind taking Kentucky approach and hiring the dad of a 5 star.

Wrong

[Uncle Rico]

This coaching staff has underperformed for several years relative to talent evaluation and roster composition. Also, it did not appear that we had any offensive system, end of game plays, or out of bounds plays.

Never want to see anyone lose their job but it is time for a change.

Wouldn't mind taking Kentucky approach and hiring the dad of a 5 star.

Miss the days before NIL and the portal when programs didn't hire dads or coaches affiliated with recruits to get them to attend your school.

[The Sultan]

Also, it did not appear that we had any offensive system,

Check your eyes.

[avid1010]

This coaching staff has underperformed for several years relative to talent evaluation and roster composition. Also, it did not appear that we had any offensive system, end of game plays, or out of bounds plays.

Never want to see anyone lose their job but it is time for a change.

Wouldn't mind taking Kentucky approach and hiring the dad of a 5 star.

You're a gem.

[Viper]

If so, congratulations on the head coaching gig.  Thanks for the offense that brought us TKo, Oso, Omax, Kam, Stevie, Joplin, Nigel, Royce, Adrien.  I enjoyed the principles and the consistent open looks.

...and the early outs and 20 L's too?

[JTJ3]

The system is great.  I would love it if he ended up staying.

We just sucked at making open shots for most of the season.

[MU82]

Without blaming anyone for anything, sometimes it's just good to have a new stimulus, a new set of eyes, new ideas.

Change is often beneficial.

[Elonsmusk]

The system is great.  I would love it if he ended up staying.

We just sucked at making open shots for most of the season.

I was a fan of the system in the Kolek years, yet have come to believe the system is TOO, two dimensional.  It's easier to guard when you know a team will either shoot a 3 or attempt to get all the way to the basket.  As I've watched the tournament I've seen a lot of teams run inbounds plays from under the basket that free up a good midrange shot along the baseline.  Have seen a lot of guys hit midrange shots.

High D-1 college players are so skilled, shooting shots from the FT line, elbow, baseline, in my opinion would convert at a higher percentage than some of the reckless high degree of difficulty at the basket shots we've taken.

We finished 4th in KenPom on 2pt FG distance, yet 146th in 2pt FG% - and I'd argue because a lot of our at the basket attempts were high degree of difficulty shots.

Might be time to zag back against the trend.  Pitino, and Izzo teams shot a lot of midrange.  In fact Michigan State 346th in 2pt FG distance, yet shot 53.4% good for 110th.  Arizona ranks 363rd in 3pt FG attempt percentage.

[jfp61]

We finished 4th in KenPom on 2pt FG distance, yet 146th in 2pt FG% - and I'd argue because a lot of our at the basket attempts were high degree of difficulty shots.

They weren't difficult we just sucked at layups.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

I was a fan of the system in the Kolek years, yet have come to believe the system is TOO, two dimensional.  It's easier to guard when you know a team will either shoot a 3 or attempt to get all the way to the basket.  As I've watched the tournament I've seen a lot of teams run inbounds plays from under the basket that free up a good midrange shot along the baseline.  Have seen a lot of guys hit midrange shots.

High D-1 college players are so skilled, shooting shots from the FT line, elbow, baseline, in my opinion would convert at a higher percentage than some of the reckless high degree of difficulty at the basket shots we've taken.

We finished 4th in KenPom on 2pt FG distance, yet 146th in 2pt FG% - and I'd argue because a lot of our at the basket attempts were high degree of difficulty shots.

Might be time to zag back against the trend.  Pitino, and Izzo teams shot a lot of midrange.  In fact Michigan State 346th in 2pt FG distance, yet shot 53.4% good for 110th.  Arizona ranks 363rd in 3pt FG attempt percentage

No.  Get better players. Take open 3s and shots at the rim.

[brewcity77]

They weren't difficult we just sucked at layups.

Yeah, Chase and NJ were poor finishing at the rim. Caedin and Josh even worse. They also dug a big hole because Sean and Zaide were awful. Hopefully attrition helps in that regard as 4 of those 6 should be gone.

[JTJ3]

Yeah, Chase and NJ were poor finishing at the rim. Caedin and Josh even worse. They also dug a big hole because Sean and Zaide were awful. Hopefully attrition helps in that regard as 4 of those 6 should be gone.

Caedin or Josh included in that 4?

[DoctorV]

Yeah, Chase and NJ were poor finishing at the rim. Caedin and Josh even worse. They also dug a big hole because Sean and Zaide were awful. Hopefully attrition helps in that regard as 4 of those 6 should be gone.

Problem is that I don't think these guys were bad, I just think that TyKo and Kam were exceptionally good.

Those two are NBA guards, and have very elite skills.
Finishing at the rim and passing at elite levels.

[Jay Bee]

Problem is that I don't think these guys were bad, I just think that TyKo and Kam were exceptionally good.

Those two are NBA guards, and have very elite skills.
Finishing at the rim and passing at elite levels.

Yup. We knew our 2FG% was in trouble before the season began.

eFG% - This is our only hope for sustaining or improving on last year's Adj OE rankings. Our 2FG% of 54.7% ranked #52 in the land - very good. We lose Kam's high volume and super strong mark of 58.6%. Gulp. JoLp was at 55.0%. Now, maybe getting Royce and Ben shots inside more often helps combat things.. but our 2FG% is in trouble. Let's hope for something like 52.5%.

We finished the season at 52.6%, right where a reasonable projection had us pegged (pawz).

[Shooter McGavin]

I'm sure Brew knows the numbers well.  But it seems to me that NJ was light years ahead of Chase finishing at the rim in traffic.  He seems to be able to contort his body to get up a legitimate shot. Chase just seemed to throw the ball up in the air when his layups were contested with no chance of going in.  And because of that didn't get all of the fouls calls he could have gotten because he looked out of control.  Surprised to hear NJ and Chase in the same sentence in that regard. 

[Billy Hoyle]

Miss the days before NIL and the portal when programs didn't hire dads or coaches affiliated with recruits to get them to attend your school.

When was that? The NCAA had to adopt legislation prohibiting the hiring of family members or former HS or AAU coaches of student-athletes for BS non- coaching administrative positions (e.g., assistant to the traveling secretary). If they wanted to hire one of these people (IAWPs) they had to use a countable coaching position.

[Uncle Rico]

When was that? The NCAA had to adopt legislation prohibiting the hiring of family members or former HS or AAU coaches of student-athletes for BS non- coaching administrative positions (e.g., assistant to the traveling secretary). If they wanted to hire one of these people (IAWPs) they had to use a countable coaching position.

I've been told this kind of thing didn't happen and kids chose their destinations based on the school. 

[Galway Eagle]

When was that? The NCAA had to adopt legislation prohibiting the hiring of family members or former HS or AAU coaches of student-athletes for BS non- coaching administrative positions (e.g., assistant to the traveling secretary). If they wanted to hire one of these people (IAWPs) they had to use a countable coaching position.

When was this? Didn't Willard do that to get whitehead?

[Billy Hoyle]

When was this? Didn't Willard do that to get whitehead?

I don't know Whitehead's situation. IAWP was implemented around 2010 or 11. You could hire one of these individuals as a countable coach. One unintended consequence was that if a coach was demoted to DOBO or another non-coaching position, schools had to put in a waiver request for every kid on the roster the coach had worked with over the previous two years.

[brewcity77]

I'm sure Brew knows the numbers well.  But it seems to me that NJ was light years ahead of Chase finishing at the rim in traffic.  He seems to be able to contort his body to get up a legitimate shot. Chase just seemed to throw the ball up in the air when his layups were contested with no chance of going in.  And because of that didn't get all of the fouls calls he could have gotten because he looked out of control.  Surprised to hear NJ and Chase in the same sentence in that regard. 

Per Hoop-Explorer, NJ was 54.6% at the rim and Chase was 55.1% for the season.

However, in conference play only, NJ was at 57.1% while Chase was at 51.0%, so the recency bias would definitely favor NJ and show he was improving as the year went on while Chase was going in the opposite direction.

[MuMark]

https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/2039365056572363026?s=61

[Uncle Rico]

https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/2039365056572363026?s=61

Hope Siena likes losing

[Zog from Margo]

Congratulations to Nevada Smith! He was part of some pretty fun teams at MU. Hopefully, Shaka finds another Xs and Os guru for his staff.

[swoopem]

Congratulations to Nevada Smith! He was part of some pretty fun teams at MU. Hopefully, Shaka finds another Xs and Os guru for his staff.

Why not continue to run the same system? If Shaka couldn't learn the system over the last 5 years then we have major problems.

Hopefully we replace Nevada with a stud recruiter

[Galway Eagle]

Why not continue to run the same system? If Shaka couldn't learn the system over the last 5 years then we have major problems.

Hopefully we replace Nevada with a stud recruiter

6 yrs he was on Shakas staff his last year at Texas as well.

[BCHoopster]

Jerel McNeil

[cheebs09]

RIP Siena Midrange

[onepost]

Jeremy Ballard

[The Sultan]

Jerel McNeil

*McNeal

[jfp61]

He Gone

[Zog from Margo]

Why not continue to run the same system? If Shaka couldn't learn the system over the last 5 years then we have major problems.

Hopefully we replace Nevada with a stud recruiter

Hopefully, the guys who are supposed to be the recruiting studs on the staff are evaluated and necessary adjustments made. Every staff should have a guy that excels at the Xs and Os, IMO. I also didn't say the Xs and Os guru needed to be an offensive guru. The D and rebounding needed plenty of work too.

[Uncle Rico]

Jerel McNeil

Dominique James

[PJDunn]

Charles "Mandy" Johnson... hard stop.

[DoctorV]

Dominique James

Haha solid

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Hope Siena likes losing

The player to be named later in the Mike Deane signing.

[K1 Lover]

Thought I'd take a peek at the Siena hoops message board to see if they were excited about hiring Nevada Smith. Funnily enough, I found a link to this very thread, as it looks like some are trying to gauge their excitement based on how disappointed we are to lose Smith.

One Siena poster said, "Doesn't seem like they are too upset." 😂

[tower912]

I like Nevada.   I like his offensive schemes.   I am not heartbroken he left, as this is the nature of the business.  He did a lot of good work at MU and now has been rewarded with an opportunity at a big chair.
 
Thank you, congratulations, and good luck. 

[panda]

Will be interesting to see how he runs a program. He was hesitant to move into an assistant coaching role because he hated recruiting. Wish him well

[BrewCity83]

Thought I'd take a peek at the Siena hoops message board to see if they were excited about hiring Nevada Smith. Funnily enough, I found a link to this very thread, as it looks like some are trying to gauge their excitement based on how disappointed we are to lose Smith.

One Siena poster said, "Doesn't seem like they are too upset." 😂

Wait--Siena hoops has a message board???

[Uncle Rico]

Thought I'd take a peek at the Siena hoops message board to see if they were excited about hiring Nevada Smith. Funnily enough, I found a link to this very thread, as it looks like some are trying to gauge their excitement based on how disappointed we are to lose Smith.

One Siena poster said, "Doesn't seem like they are too upset." 😂

Any Siena fan reading this, thanks for beating Ohio State that one time and hope you enjoyed the Jim Secretarski years

[brewcity77]

Any Siena fan reading this, thanks for beating Ohio State that one time and hope you enjoyed the Jim Secretarski years

I went to high school with Jim. First time I ever heard of Siena was when he committed there. Was a hell of a football player too.

[Uncle Rico]

I went to high school with Jim. First time I ever heard of Siena was when he committed there. Was a hell of a football player too.

Walking bucket

[Viper]

Miami Heat organization, Spoelstra especially, saying nice things for Smith. Obviously they liked him during his time as their g-league team HC.

[avid1010]

I'd bet on guys like Pat Riley, Spoelstra and Shaka over most.

[Billy Hoyle]

Any Siena fan reading this, thanks for beating Ohio State that one time and hope you enjoyed the Jim Secretarski years

My HS has sent three hoops players to the D1 level, one was on the Mike Deane-coached team that knocked off Stanford in the first round of the tourney after winning their conference tournament in front of an empty arena due to a measles outbreak. We were all excited seeing Deane come to our HS gym for games, and it was probably the first time anyone in my town had heard of Siena College (Deane recruited the guy's brother to Michigan State).

[Uncle Rico]

My HS has sent three hoops players to the D1 level, one was on the Mike Deane-coached team that knocked off Stanford in the first round of the tourney after winning their conference tournament in front of an empty arena due to a measles outbreak. We were all excited seeing Deane come to our HS gym for games, and it was probably the first time anyone in my town had heard of Siena College (Deane recruited the guy's brother to Michigan State).

I forgot about that Siena moment, beating Stanford as a 14-seed.

[Jay Bee]

My HS has sent three hoops players to the D1 level, one was on the Mike Deane-coached team that knocked off Stanford in the first round of the tourney after winning their conference tournament in front of an empty arena due to a measles outbreak. We were all excited seeing Deane come to our HS gym for games, and it was probably the first time anyone in my town had heard of Siena College (Deane recruited the guy's brother to Michigan State).

Wow. What a crappy high school!

[tower912]

My HS has sent three hoops players to the D1 level, one was on the Mike Deane-coached team that knocked off Stanford in the first round of the tourney after winning their conference tournament in front of an empty arena due to a measles outbreak. We were all excited seeing Deane come to our HS gym for games, and it was probably the first time anyone in my town had heard of Siena College (Deane recruited the guy's brother to Michigan State).

The Brown brothers?

Not a slur.  A basketball playing family from a small town in Michigan who went on to play college basketball.   One at MSU, one at Siena, one at Hope.

[SchnitzelBoy]

Happy for the guy! Wondering if we'll start to see mid-range jumpers more regularly. Only Nigel started taking them towards the end of this season. Prior to that, there was a "break glass in case of emergency" play for Joplin that was surprisingly efficient.

It would be awesome to see Siena become a regular feature in the tournament under Nevada.

Do we schedule Siena????

[Billy Hoyle]

Wow. What a crappy high school!

three D1 hoops players from a rural town of 6500 is pretty good, IMO.

[Billy Hoyle]

The Brown brothers?

Not a slur.  A basketball playing family from a small town in Michigan who went on to play college basketball.

Yes. Mark went to MSU, then WMU. Mark went to Siena, and the youngest, Matt, played at Hope (D3). The other D1 guy was Tony Bowne, who went to Central. He ended up at the HS when he was adopted by his mom's family when she couldn't care for him anymore.

[Jay Bee]