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wadesworld

Quote from: Skatastrophy on August 27, 2025, 03:09:57 PMMinneapolis mayor gets it

He does, but...

We've seen passionate speeches from politicians after school shootings before yet...

Jay Bee

Frey is a pandering tool. This city is a cesspool.
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The Lens

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 03:45:33 PMFrey is a pandering tool. This city is a cesspool.

No it's not.  It has isolated violence here and there like every other city / metwro plex / small town / village in America.

My family was in the Twin Cities this summer for volleyball and college visits.  It was sensational.  Didn't feel an ounce unsafe.
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wadesworld

The tough guys with big guns are complete wusses when they talk about bigger cities, homelessness, etc.  Scared of everything.

Jay Bee

Quote from: The Lens on August 27, 2025, 03:48:19 PMNo it's not.  It has isolated violence here and there like every other city / metwro plex / small town / village in America.

My family was in the Twin Cities this summer for volleyball and college visits.  It was sensational.  Didn't feel an ounce unsafe.

False. Nice that you had some pleasant visits, but the city is done. I've been here.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on August 27, 2025, 03:50:04 PMThe tough guys with big guns are complete wusses when they talk about bigger cities, homelessness, etc.  Scared of everything.

No one softer than the big babies afraid of cities
How bad slavery was

tower912

Meh.  I was more worried about being attacked by bears in Alaska than I was worried about crime walking the streets of DC, Baltimore, NYC, Chicago, Detroit over the last 18 months.

#sackupbuttercup
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Shooter Robin Westman.  Formerly Robert Westman.  Information provided by Chat GPT.
Here's what is known so far about Robin M. Westman (formerly Robert Paul Westman), the individual responsible for the tragic shooting at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis on August 27, 2025:

Personal Background

Name & Identity

Born Robert Paul Westman on June 17, 2002, in Richfield, Minnesota.
Wikipedia
The Washington Post
ABC News

Changed name to Robin M. Westman in January 2020 (application filed at age 17) to reflect her female gender identity.
The Washington Post
Wikipedia
ABC News

Family & Community Ties

Grew up in Richfield, Minn.
https://www.kttc.com
Wikipedia

Attended Annunciation Catholic School, graduating in 2017.
New York Post
Wikipedia

Her mother, Mary (or Mary Grace) Westman, worked as a parish secretary at Annunciation from around 2016 until her retirement in 2021.
New York Post
The Times
Wikipedia
https://www.kttc.com

Criminal History

Authorities report no significant prior criminal history for Westman.
The Washington Post
New York Post
Wikipedia

The Shooting & Preceding Manifesto

Incident Summary

On August 27, 2025, around 8:30 a.m. CDT, Westman attacked during a school-wide Mass at Annunciation Catholic School—firing through stained-glass windows with a rifle, shotgun, and pistol.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia

Victims: Two children (ages 8 and 10) were killed. Seventeen others—including students and elderly parishioners—were wounded. Westman died by a self-inflicted gunshot at the scene.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia

Manifesto & Online Activity

Westman posted disturbing videos to YouTube hours before the attack, including:

A narrated walkthrough of a handwritten notebook (some pages in Cyrillic) containing violent fantasies, plans, and schematics.

A second video showcasing her weapons, with magazines labeled phrases like "for the children" and "kill Donald Trump."
New York Post
+1
People.com
Wikipedia

The notebook entries revealed:

Deep admiration for past mass shooters (e.g., Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook) and explicit fantasies about terrorism and violence.
New York Post
+1

Hate-filled, antisemitic content—referencing "Zionist Jews," stating desires to kill Jewish people, along with broader extremist and political themes.
New York Post
+1

The FBI is investigating the shooting as a domestic terrorism incident and potential hate crime, particularly given the anti-Catholic tone and extremist content of the manifesto.

wadesworld

Is it the same people that said people were welcome to move out of the country if they don't like the results of an election the same people that are calling for the National Guard to be called in to clean up their cities that are "done?"

tower912

Quote from: NCMUFan on August 27, 2025, 04:04:57 PMShooter Robin Westman.  Formerly Robert Westman.  Information provided by Chat GPT.
Here's what is known so far about Robin M. Westman (formerly Robert Paul Westman), the individual responsible for the tragic shooting at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis on August 27, 2025:

Personal Background

Name & Identity

Born Robert Paul Westman on June 17, 2002, in Richfield, Minnesota.
Wikipedia
The Washington Post
ABC News

Changed name to Robin M. Westman in January 2020 (application filed at age 17) to reflect her female gender identity.
The Washington Post
Wikipedia
ABC News

Family & Community Ties

Grew up in Richfield, Minn.
https://www.kttc.com
Wikipedia

Attended Annunciation Catholic School, graduating in 2017.
New York Post
Wikipedia

Her mother, Mary (or Mary Grace) Westman, worked as a parish secretary at Annunciation from around 2016 until her retirement in 2021.
New York Post
The Times
Wikipedia
https://www.kttc.com

Criminal History

Authorities report no significant prior criminal history for Westman.
The Washington Post
New York Post
Wikipedia

The Shooting & Preceding Manifesto

Incident Summary

On August 27, 2025, around 8:30 a.m. CDT, Westman attacked during a school-wide Mass at Annunciation Catholic School—firing through stained-glass windows with a rifle, shotgun, and pistol.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia

Victims: Two children (ages 8 and 10) were killed. Seventeen others—including students and elderly parishioners—were wounded. Westman died by a self-inflicted gunshot at the scene.
The Guardian
People.com
Wikipedia

Manifesto & Online Activity

Westman posted disturbing videos to YouTube hours before the attack, including:

A narrated walkthrough of a handwritten notebook (some pages in Cyrillic) containing violent fantasies, plans, and schematics.

A second video showcasing her weapons, with magazines labeled phrases like "for the children" and "kill Donald Trump."
New York Post
+1
People.com
Wikipedia

The notebook entries revealed:

Deep admiration for past mass shooters (e.g., Adam Lanza of Sandy Hook) and explicit fantasies about terrorism and violence.
New York Post
+1

Hate-filled, antisemitic content—referencing "Zionist Jews," stating desires to kill Jewish people, along with broader extremist and political themes.
New York Post
+1

The FBI is investigating the shooting as a domestic terrorism incident and potential hate crime, particularly given the anti-Catholic tone and extremist content of the manifesto.
Yep.  A deeply troubled soul who acted out their pain and alienation with guns.  Same old story.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on August 27, 2025, 04:11:40 PMYep.  A deeply troubled soul who acted out their pain and alienation with guns.  Same old story.   

Do thoughts and prayers stop gun violence
 
ChatGPT said:
"Thoughts and prayers" alone do not stop gun violence.

They may offer emotional support and show solidarity with victims, but they do not address the root causes or change the conditions that lead to gun violence. Meaningful reduction in gun violence generally requires:

Policy changes (e.g. background checks, safe storage laws, red flag laws)
Community-based programs
Mental health support
Improved law enforcement practices
Addressing systemic inequality and poverty

The phrase "thoughts and prayers" is often criticized when it's used in place of concrete action, especially after mass shootings. Many see it as a symbolic gesture that lacks follow-through.
How bad slavery was

MU82

Shooter isn't a thug or low-IQ or violent. He's white, so it was a mental-health thing.

But don't ask why we're cutting mental-health funding by billions of dollars.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jay Bee

Quote from: MU82 on August 27, 2025, 04:29:05 PMShooter isn't a thug or low-IQ or violent. He's white, so it was a mental-health thing.

But don't ask why we're cutting mental-health funding by billions of dollars.

Stop misgendering her
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 27, 2025, 04:37:12 PMStop misgendering her

She went to a Catholic school, so she was probably abused by a priest.  It's a pretty sick cult.
How bad slavery was

tower912

Probably traumatized by super-annuated sexually confused 12 year olds who still make gay jokes and think they are funny.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Pakuni

Quote from: wadesworld on August 27, 2025, 03:50:04 PMThe tough guys with big guns are complete wusses when they talk about bigger cities, homelessness, etc.  Scared of everything.

https://x.com/3YearLetterman/status/1958708036660293869

Pakuni

We've got a white guy who flirted with transitioning, who was also an antisemitic Nazi sympathizer, who was also obsessed with mass shooters, who also somehow got a hold of an arsenal of guns despite all the above.

Everybody wins!*


*Except for the dead kids, who are secondary to the issue

tower912

Wasn't a criminal until the first trigger was pulled.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on August 27, 2025, 05:02:32 PMWe've got a white guy who flirted with transitioning, who was also an antisemitic Nazi sympathizer, who was also obsessed with mass shooters, who also somehow got a hold of an arsenal of guns despite all the above.

Everybody wins!*


*Except for the dead kids, who are secondary to the issue

Dead kids have always been secondary to the issue.  That's been resolved for decades
How bad slavery was

Shaka Shart

The nihilism irony-meme driven violence culture is pretty concerning right now. I'm not sure many on here are familiar with it but it's irony poisoning to a terminal level where nihilistic violence based on "nothing matters anyway" furthers the meme. It's self perpetuating and each iteration adds another layer of copycat potential.

There's been multiple incidents in the past year driven by this insular hyperviolence fixated youth culture.

As you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 05:34:40 PMThe nihilism irony-meme driven violence culture is pretty concerning right now. I'm not sure many on here are familiar with it but it's irony poisoning to a terminal level where nihilistic violence based on "nothing matters anyway" furthers the meme. It's self perpetuating and each iteration adds another layer of copycat potential.

There's been multiple incidents in the past year driven by this insular hyperviolence fixated youth culture.

As you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.

Factory jobs and coal mining are coming back bigly, so that will help poors
How bad slavery was

Pakuni

Quote from: Shaka Shart on August 27, 2025, 05:34:40 PMThe nihilism irony-meme driven violence culture is pretty concerning right now. I'm not sure many on here are familiar with it but it's irony poisoning to a terminal level where nihilistic violence based on "nothing matters anyway" furthers the meme. It's self perpetuating and each iteration adds another layer of copycat potential.

There's been multiple incidents in the past year driven by this insular hyperviolence fixated youth culture.

As you continue to dry up community and recreational opportunities along with continuing downward trending economic disparity, this is just gonna keep exponentially spreading. Social/economic Isolation is a big f***ing problem in the current young generation.

Fear not, Mark Zuckerberg is going to fix this problem he helped perpetuate by giving isolated kids AI friends.


Jay Bee

How old was reeko when ze was allowed to "switch" ze's sex?
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