Syria = Impending S-Show

[MUBurrow]

Proportionality to population size is a criminally insane concept when it comes to human death. That's it. That's the post.

[MUBurrow]

You have your head in the sand and this board is spending too much time dealing with your ignorance.

Muggs doesn't think we should hold western-style liberal societies to a higher standard when judging how they use violence. It's a tremendous self own he'll never wrap his head around.

[jesmu84]

To be fair to muggs, he likely would have seen the Warsaw ghetto uprising as a terrorist attack

[Scoop Snoop]

Substitute "Muggsy's" for the word "our" in my second signature to get to the heart of the problem. I'm thinking about changing it to that.

[MU82]

I don't but I understand why they exist.  Rebel groups have existed since the dawn of time in an attempt to throw off the shackles of their oppressors.

I'd say Hamas are more terrorists than "rebels," and I'd say that what they did on Oct. 7 was more than "attempt to throw off the shackles."

[Scoop Snoop]

I'd say Hamas are more terrorists than "rebels," and I'd say that what they did on Oct. 7 was more than "attempt to throw off the shackles."

Agree. I would add that the belief (probably Muggsy's) that severely reducing the number of Hamas fighters means that Hamas will no longer be a threat is naive. No doubt the young male survivors of this war are already imbued with a visceral hatred of Israelis. Hamas will rebuild. Not if. When. 

[Pakuni]

Agree. I would add that the belief (probably Muggsy's) that severely reducing the number of Hamas fighters means that Hamas will no longer be a threat is naive. No doubt the young male survivors of this war are already imbued with a visceral hatred of Israelis. Hamas will rebuild. Not if. When. 

Yup.
Contrary to the advice they're getting from one prominent Scooper, the Israelis are mistaken if they think they can kill their way to a peaceful existence.
Of course, we probably shouldn't pretend that's the goal here.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I suggest you read the just-published New York Times Magazine article headlined: SECRET MEETINGS, ALTERED RECORDS, IGNORED WARNINGS: HOW ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER PROLONGED THE WAR IN GAZA TO STAY IN POWER

Professor Timothy Snyder explains it as "the classic dictatorial position: He needs to die in bed holding all executive power to stay out of prison. This means that he will do whatever he can to gain power, and once in power will do all that he can to never let it go. This is a basic incentive structure which underlies everything else. It is entirely inconsistent with democracy."

Of course, he was not referring to Bibi here.

Good luck, America.

[Shaka Shart]

Muggsy where is your dental practice

[Uncle Rico]

https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3luyikkksjc2o

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy where is your dental practice

I'm not a dentist. 

[Hards Alumni]

I'd say Hamas are more terrorists than "rebels," and I'd say that what they did on Oct. 7 was more than "attempt to throw off the shackles."

They can be both.

[Hards Alumni]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-say-israel-based-human-rights-groups

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-say-israel-based-human-rights-groups

Too bad Netanyahu will never face a day in jail.

[MU82]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/28/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-say-israel-based-human-rights-groups

All the Israeli Jews in those organizations obviously are antisemitic and anti-Israel.

[jesmu84]

"send only bombs to gaza, not food"

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Hamas has fired missiles at food trucks.  Israel isn't blameless, and there are assheads in tbeir govt., but starving Palestinians is an asset for Hamas. 

Do you think Israel is "a genocidal state"?

Here you go Muggsy. This isn't a one-off, this is systemic genocide.

[The Sultan]

Muggsy thinks she deserved it.

[jesmu84]

Here you go Muggsy. This isn't a one-off, this is systemic genocide.

But does he condemn hamas?

[MU82]

Also, only 29% of Americans polled approve of Netanyahu's handling of the situation.

[Uncle Rico]

Also, only 29% of Americans polled approve of Netanyahu's handling of the situation.

Only 29% of America can comprehend five point plans

[JWags85]

Here you go Muggsy. This isn't a one-off, this is systemic genocide.

This isn't at all a justification for anything Israel or IDF, but Tony Aguilar (wonder if his last name was misspelled on purpose so not to easily tie it to past media) has been outed as a liar and disgruntled contractor for months before he went on his current media tour.  He was a persona non grata in ex-Special Forces circles before any of this and he got fired from GHF for misconduct and violent behavior, not that he left voluntarily.  All his sensationalist reporting that has got him camera time and shine has been completely devoid of evidence or substantiation.

Israel is doing reprehensible stuff in this whole conflict, but flat out lies from biased unreliable sources and reports from NGO who were critical of Israel as an entity long before 10/7 aren't the slam dunk evidence its being reported as, and ultimately only harms innocent Palestinians and the actual truth of what they are facing. Just like the retraction the NYT just had to do about pictures and descriptions they were using about certain starving civilians.

And not to both sides it, but I feel the same about any BS overuse of antisemitism labels for people and actions or half truth stories used to accuse others of anti-Israeli/Jewish bias.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

This isn't at all a justification for anything Israel or IDF, but Tony Aguilar (wonder if his last name was misspelled on purpose so not to easily tie it to past media) has been outed as a liar and disgruntled contractor for months before he went on his current media tour.  He was a persona non grata in ex-Special Forces circles before any of this and he got fired from GHF for misconduct and violent behavior, not that he left voluntarily.  All his sensationalist reporting that has got him camera time and shine has been completely devoid of evidence or substantiation.

Israel is doing reprehensible stuff in this whole conflict, but flat out lies from biased unreliable sources and reports from NGO who were critical of Israel as an entity long before 10/7 aren't the slam dunk evidence its being reported as, and ultimately only harms innocent Palestinians and the actual truth of what they are facing. Just like the retraction the NYT just had to do about pictures and descriptions they were using about certain starving civilians.

And not to both sides it, but I feel the same about any BS overuse of antisemitism labels for people and actions or half truth stories used to accuse others of anti-Israeli/Jewish bias.

I didn't know

This isn't at all a justification for anything Israel or IDF, but Tony Aguilar (wonder if his last name was misspelled on purpose so not to easily tie it to past media) has been outed as a liar and disgruntled contractor for months before he went on his current media tour.  He was a persona non grata in ex-Special Forces circles before any of this and he got fired from GHF for misconduct and violent behavior, not that he left voluntarily.  All his sensationalist reporting that has got him camera time and shine has been completely devoid of evidence or substantiation.

Israel is doing reprehensible stuff in this whole conflict, but flat out lies from biased unreliable sources and reports from NGO who were critical of Israel as an entity long before 10/7 aren't the slam dunk evidence its being reported as, and ultimately only harms innocent Palestinians and the actual truth of what they are facing. Just like the retraction the NYT just had to do about pictures and descriptions they were using about certain starving civilians.

And not to both sides it, but I feel the same about any BS overuse of antisemitism labels for people and actions or half truth stories used to accuse others of anti-Israeli/Jewish bias.

Maybe. The accusations that he was a disgruntled employee seem to come from the GHF itself, which he criticized for the unsafe way they were dealing with the crisis. GHF has been WIDELY criticized for their shitty work.

And this is far from the first time there have been reports of Palestinians being shot by the IDF at food distribution points, or that Israel is systematically starving them.

I don't have any idea if he was "persona non grata in ex-Special Forces", but feels a bit like an effort to shoot the messenger.

[JWags85]

I didn't know
Maybe. The accusations that he was a disgruntled employee seem to come from the GHF itself, which he criticized for the unsafe way they were dealing with the crisis. GHF has been WIDELY criticized for their shitty work.

And this is far from the first time there have been reports of Palestinians being shot by the IDF at food distribution points, or that Israel is systematically starving them.

I don't have any idea if he was "persona non grata in ex-Special Forces", but feels a bit like an effort to shoot the messenger.

There is shades of grey to all of this, but it's not like he was a vocal leader in this situation leading up to this. But all of a sudden his military credentials and selfless heroism in speaking up about the GHF are touted every time he's come up on numerous networks and made very big and aggressive claims.  So people who knew him before are like "wait a second, this dude is a problematic person and a liar suddenly now being venerated in media circles".  In a lot of these situations, it's pretty even.  Whether volunteers or journalists or whatnot, there is a smattering of support and credential bashing on either side when claims are made about the conflict.  I've seen NOTHING positive about Aguilar's background over the last month (he started getting media buzz about his "experiences" in early July), and only just "oh my god a Green Beret who worked for GHF is saying this".

Plenty of people may say "oh it doesn't matter, Israel is still being evil".  But if the reality is Israel has created near impossible situations for success in aid distribution, GHF has been horrible as the moderator of such aid, and Israel has been trigger happy in responding to disturbances or chaotic crowd around aid sites...that's a very real problem that should be highlighted, addressed, and called to account.

Saying stuff like "I saw the IDF machine gunning toddlers in the head and re-aligning their rifle sights using old women sifting through flour" with zero evidence, substantiation, and solely on the word of spurious sources...it gives anyone the opportunity to dismiss all of the above as exaggeration or fabrication and further widen the chasm of hysterical people screaming at each other in the void

[MuggsyB]

Here you go Muggsy. This isn't a one-off, this is systemic genocide.

Aguilar has been completely discredited.  This is textbook propaganda/b-crap.