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GB Warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 24, 2025, 06:25:07 PMAll of you as usual have missed the point.  And it's super interesting you keep talking about a "mass genocide" commited by Israel with no mention, ever, of places like South Sudan, which  has been a horrific example of pure ethnic cleansing from an Arab government.  The vast majority of you refuse to deal with reality.  You will never under any circumstances criticize asshead Islamic governments, and the issues within that religion, that has led to mass chaos, brainwashing, and the subjugation of their own people.  You will blame Israel and the United States at every turn.  You're living in a la-la-land and cannot handle immutable truths. 

Disregard what Sultan said, I didn't look but it's 100% Israel's fault

Scoop Snoop

#26
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 24, 2025, 06:25:07 PMAll of you as usual have missed the point. So why do you continue to post your delusions and fantasies here? And it's super interesting not really you keep talking about a "mass genocide" commited by Israel with no mention, ever, of places like South Sudan, and this is relevant...how? which  has been a horrific example of pure ethnic cleansing from an Arab government.  The vast majority of you refuse to deal with reality this is rich, coming from someone who, in one insane post, suggested that A) the US send an assassination team to take out Putin and that B) you "assured" us that the Russians would surrender immediately and C) people who could not see this had their "heads up their asses" You will never under any circumstances criticize asshead Islamic governments, oh really? and the issues within that religion, like some Christians have for centuries that has led to mass chaos, brainwashing, and the subjugation of their own people.  You will blame Israel and the United States at every turn. Not true. You're living in a la-la-land you're the mayor Muggsy! and cannot handle immutable truths. And on whose authority do you declare what those are? 

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Shaka Shart

*literally anything bad happening anywhere else in the world* Muggsy:"how strange you condemn Israel but not this"
"If we finish off this recruiting class on a high note and have another good year next year, with one 2018 already signed up (Bailey) we may be on the verge of a new era of sustained basketball success which would be known to all as the Golden Eagles era." - Herman Cain

jesmu84

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 24, 2025, 06:25:07 PMAll of you as usual have missed the point.  And it's super interesting you keep talking about a "mass genocide" commited by Israel with no mention, ever, of places like South Sudan, which  has been a horrific example of pure ethnic cleansing from an Arab government. The vast majority of you refuse to deal with reality.  You will never under any circumstances criticize asshead Islamic governments, and the issues within that religion, that has led to mass chaos, brainwashing, and the subjugation of their own people.  You will blame Israel and the United States at every turn.  You're living in a la-la-land and cannot handle immutable truths. 

So you agree Israel is committing a genocide? Interesting

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Shaka Shart on July 24, 2025, 10:20:11 PM*literally anything bad happening anywhere else in the world* Muggsy:"how strange you condemn Israel but not this"

He's awfully quiet on the gestapo tactics of his own country
"May every day be another wonderful secret"

MuggsyB

My post was on Syria and of course all of you attack Israel.   Shocker. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: jesmu84 on July 25, 2025, 06:59:14 AMSo you agree Israel is committing a genocide? Interesting

No, don't.  It appears people don't know what a genocide is. 


Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 24, 2025, 06:25:07 PMAll of you as usual have missed the point.  And it's super interesting you keep talking about a "mass genocide" commited by Israel with no mention, ever, of places like South Sudan, which  has been a horrific example of pure ethnic cleansing from an Arab government.  The vast majority of you refuse to deal with reality.  You will never under any circumstances criticize asshead Islamic governments, and the issues within that religion, that has led to mass chaos, brainwashing, and the subjugation of their own people.  You will blame Israel and the United States at every turn.  You're living in a la-la-land and cannot handle immutable truths. 

Israel is a genocidal state that no longer deserves to exist in it's current iteration.

Children are being starved to death because Israel refuses to allow aid in. 

Two million people have four places in the entire zone to pick up food.

And when they do, they're gunned down by the IDF.

All of this is straight from the Nazi playbook.

Ghettoize a population, steal/destroy their possessions, and then starve and murder them.

"Never again" shouldn't be a rallying cry only for Jewish people.

Defending what is happening in Gaza puts you firmly on the wrong side of history.

If you need help coming back to the right side, I'd be happy to place the genocide on full display for you in DMs.  I'd put the pictures here, but they're extremely graphic. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 25, 2025, 07:09:45 AMNo, don't.  It appears people don't know what a genocide is. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

UN
Amnesty International
Doctors without Borders

Just because the US and Israel don't believe it, does not mean it is not widely considered a genocide.

Open your eyes, child.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 25, 2025, 07:08:04 AMMy post was on Syria and of course all of you attack Israel.   Shocker. 


Mostly because it exposes what an obvious hypocrite you are.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

It's wild how some of you complain about people being snatched off the street by unidentified government agents wearing masks, but you're silent when that kind of thing happens all the time in Russia and North Korea.

tower912

Quote from: Pakuni on July 25, 2025, 09:38:59 AMIt's wild how some of you complain about people being snatched off the street by unidentified government agents wearing masks, but you're silent when that kind of thing happens all the time in Russia and North Korea.
Waiting for Ghislaine to fall off the balcony of a tall building.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

1/4 of all of the people who have died of starvation in Gaza in the last 22 months have died in the last three days.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: tower912 on July 25, 2025, 09:46:32 AMWaiting for Ghislaine to fall off the balcony of a tall building.

Nah. She'll be deported to El Salvador any day now.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 25, 2025, 10:25:03 AM1/4 of all of the people who have died of starvation in Gaza in the last 22 months have died in the last three days.

But will you denounce Hamas?
"If we finish off this recruiting class on a high note and have another good year next year, with one 2018 already signed up (Bailey) we may be on the verge of a new era of sustained basketball success which would be known to all as the Golden Eagles era." - Herman Cain

MuggsyB

Quote from: Hards Alumni on July 25, 2025, 07:37:42 AMIsrael is a genocidal state that no longer deserves to exist in it's current iteration.

Children are being starved to death because Israel refuses to allow aid in. 

Two million people have four places in the entire zone to pick up food.

And when they do, they're gunned down by the IDF.

All of this is straight from the Nazi playbook.

Ghettoize a population, steal/destroy their possessions, and then starve and murder them.

"Never again" shouldn't be a rallying cry only for Jewish people.

Defending what is happening in Gaza puts you firmly on the wrong side of history.

If you need help coming back to the right side, I'd be happy to place the genocide on full display for you in DMs.  I'd put the pictures here, but they're extremely graphic. 

This is fking ridiculous.  They were attacked and unfortunately innocent civilians die in war.  If this is a "genocidal state", how come the death count isn't 500 thousand?  When we bombed Mosul was that genocide?  Those that keep hammering this inane narrative are directly responsible for further antisemitism and anti-israel garbage. 

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 26, 2025, 07:33:26 AMThis is fking ridiculous.  They were attacked and unfortunately innocent civilians die in war.  If this is a "genocidal state", how come the death count isn't 500 thousand?  When we bombed Mosul was that genocide?  Those that keep hammering this inane narrative are directly responsible for further antisemitism and anti-israel garbage. 

How come you accept the death of innocent civilians on one side, but not the other?
Are some civilian lives more worthy than others?

MuggsyB

Quote from: Pakuni on July 26, 2025, 08:01:22 AMHow come you accept the death of innocent civilians on one side, but not the other?
Are some civilian lives more worthy than others?

I'm not accepting anything.  This is in response to labeling Israel a genocidal state.  Getting Gazans the food and aid they need has obviously been a major problem.  The fact that Egypt won't help at all is also a problem.  If Hamas released the hostages and surrendered months and months ago, this wouldn't be a crisis. 

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 26, 2025, 08:14:01 AMI'm not accepting anything. You just did! you accepted it as a consequence of war. Getting Gazans the food and aid they need has obviously been a major problem.  The fact that Egypt won't help at all is also a problem. So Egypt is responsible by not helping? It would be great if they did, but this is just another example of deflection, something that you are a master of. If Hamas released the hostages and surrendered months and months ago, this wouldn't be a crisis. But they didn't. Feeding the Gazans is now the victor's responsibility. 

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

MuggsyB

#45
Maybe the entire Arab world should stop using the Palestinians as pawns and allow some refugees to move there?  Maybe Egypt shouldn't close their border to Gazans and we should help?  It's also interesting that  1 million or so Palestinians work in Israel when it's an "apartheid state".  It's even more interesting that if Israel were to leave that land entirely, that tiny speck of land would turn into another hell hole, just like 4/5 of all Muslim majority states.  If Israel were to lay down their arms, WTF do you think would happen?  If Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc, etc, etc, laid down there arms do you think Israel would go Rambo on all civilians? 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 26, 2025, 09:20:43 AMMaybe the entire Arab world should stop using the Palestinians as pawns and allow some refugees to move there?  Maybe Egypt shouldn't close their border to Gazans and we should help?  It's also interesting that  1 million or so Palestinians work in Israel when it's an "apartheid state".  It's even more interesting that if Israel were to leave that land entirely, that tiny speck of land would turn into another hell hole, just like 4/5 of all Muslim majority states.  If Israel were to lay down their arms, WTF do you think would happen?  If Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc, etc, etc, laid down there arms do you think Israel would go Rambo on all civilians? 

Why should it be responsibility of the Arab states and not the one with control over the territory? Why should Palestinians have to move away from their home?

Face it, you've bought into the propaganda and are excusing Israel for atrocities that you would be all up in arms with otherwise.

You're just a person not to be taken seriously.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Scoop Snoop

Maybe it's more interesting that you continue to demonstrate your inability to discuss anything rationally here. Instead, you lecture on what to you are "immutable truths" and "reality". We are supposed to listen and marvel at your brilliant takes.

However, I must congratulate you for showing a few signs of empathy for humans. Since you absolutely refuse to walk back old posts, I will continue to use them. Your acknowledgement of starving people (Muslims no less!) is a huge improvement over your refusal a few years ago to acknowledge the tragedy of the woman who a gator chomped in half. Your only concern was that you wanted a "thorough investigation" as to why the gator was put down. And you once posted that moose had the right to kill people "without mercy". So good for you Muggsy! And not once have you have mentioned the magnificent animals that have died in Gaza due to the bombing. I'm very proud of you.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Pakuni

 
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 26, 2025, 08:14:01 AMI'm not accepting anything.  This is in response to labeling Israel a genocidal state.  Getting Gazans the food and aid they need has obviously been a major problem.  The fact that Egypt won't help at all is also a problem.  If Hamas released the hostages and surrendered months and months ago, this wouldn't be a crisis. 
If you believe that intentional civilian casualties are just a part of war, then so is Oct. 7.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on July 26, 2025, 07:33:26 AMThis is fking ridiculous.  They were attacked and unfortunately innocent civilians die in war.  If this is a "genocidal state", how come the death count isn't 500 thousand?  When we bombed Mosul was that genocide?  Those that keep hammering this inane narrative are directly responsible for further antisemitism and anti-israel garbage. 

Civilian deaths by starvation are not a part of any war.  84,000+ PEOPLE have died as a result of the war in Gaza.  Including aid workers, journalists, and children.  These are war crimes.  Period.  The Gaza strip has been one giant concentration camp for years.  The civilians there have no right of movement.  They can't come and go as they please.  They've been thoroughly rounded up and CONCENTRATED.

https://www.btselem.org/freedom_of_movement

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/report-israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/

https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/the-double-genocide-in-gaza-by-dr-gregory-stanton

You won't even click those links.  You have no interest in seeking out any information that doesn't conform to your preconceived notion of right and wrong.  Which is EXTREMELY juvenile.  These are PEOPLE.  Have you no empathy for them?  What is their crime?  Existence?  Do they not matter to you because they're Muslims?  Just say that if it's what you truly think.

The holocaust didn't happen in a week or a month.  It took years, and the slow creep of wanton death numbed the people as to what was happening.  Which is EXACTLY what is happening right now in Gaza.  Many people in Israel don't see Palestinians as humans, and that is exactly what the government wants.  Dehumanization and extermination.  Destruction of all infrastructure, health care, education, and humanitarian zones... Israel can't just say everything is Hamas and fire away without criticism.

Why do you say what is happening in Sudan is a genocide, yet deny there is one in Gaza?

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