Syria = Impending S-Show

[Scoop Snoop]

The probability is about 98%. 

Universally people said Winston was wrong.  Whoops. 

Thank you for presenting yet another example of your proud ignorance of history. You blurted out "universally" so it must be true. Apparently, you read a snippet somewhere that supports your blurt and offer that as proof of your expertise in the enormously complex historical setting at the time. Omniscient Messiahs intuitively understand these matters. The rest of us must spend long hours learning about what took place and review various accounts.
 

[MuggsyB]

Thank you for presenting yet another example of your proud ignorance of history. You blurted out "universally" so it must be true. Apparently, you read a snippet somewhere that supports your blurt and offer that as proof of your expertise in the enormously complex historical setting at the time. Omniscient Messiahs intuitively understand these matters. The rest of us must spend long hours learning about what took place and review various accounts.
 

Uhuh. 

[Badgerhater]

Ah yes. The Sheldon Adelson financed Jewish News Syndicate. I'm sure this will provide an accurate description of what's actually happening.

Read it and then provide your rebuttal.

What is happening is Hamas killed over 1200 civilians and took hundreds hostage.  They can end things at any time by freeing the hostages that remain.  They have no moral high ground.

[Scoop Snoop]

Uhuh. 

Simple reply from a simpleton. Perfect!

[The Sultan]

Read it and then provide your rebuttal.

What is happening is Hamas killed over 1200 civilians and took hundreds hostage.  They can end things at any time by freeing the hostages that remain.  They have no moral high ground.

I read it. It was one-sided and biased like I expected it to be.

Regardless yes I completely understand that Hamas could end this and doesn't have the moral high ground. That doesn't absolve Israel however.

[MU82]

Read it and then provide your rebuttal.

What is happening is Hamas killed over 1200 civilians and took hundreds hostage.  They can end things at any time by freeing the hostages that remain.  They have no moral high ground.

We all obviously want Hamas to free all remaining hostages. But what makes you sure that would "end it"?

Also, you know that starving Palestinian kids who are being shot while in line for food aren't the same as Hamas, right?

To repeat, I am on Israel's "side" in the conflict. But its leadership is corrupt and doing the country no favors on the international stage. Even many powerful Americans who were strongly behind them are disgusted.

[Pakuni]

https://www.jns.org/the-starvation-weapon-hamass-latest-tool-of-terror/

For the millionth time, "Hamas is bad" is not a justification for war crimes by Israel.

[Shaka Shart]

But will you denounce the convicted terrorist supporter and inciter Ben Gvir?

[Badgerhater]

For the millionth time, "Hamas is bad" is not a justification for war crimes by Israel.

The millionth time, Hamas wants to kill every Jew it can and doesn't care if Gazans get in the way of that. 

Israel put up with their terrorist
far too long.  War is hell.

[The Sultan]

The millionth time, Hamas wants to kill every Jew it can and doesn't care if Gazans get in the way of that. 

Israel put up with their terrorist
far too long.  War is hell.

Morally Israel's response should be proportionate. It hasn't been. People can call them out on that without taking the side of Hamas.

[Badgerhater]

Morally Israel's response should be proportionate. It hasn't been. People can call them out on that without taking the side of Hamas.

Proportionality is a luxury response for nations insulated by oceans.

Proportionality also encourages more attacks like Oct 7. 

Proportionality is always the call of the side that is losing.

War is hell.

[The Sultan]

Proportionality is a luxury response for nations insulated by oceans.

Proportionality also encourages more attacks like Oct 7. 

Proportionality is always the call of the side that is losing.

War is hell.

No, no, no and yes.

But congrats on supporting those who, ans a result of their inaction, is causing thousands to die. But I'm sure your trite little phrases make you feel better.

[Uncle Rico]

Proportionality is a luxury response for nations insulated by oceans.

Proportionality also encourages more attacks like Oct 7. 

Proportionality is always the call of the side that is losing.

War is hell.

Was war hell during the Rape of Nanjing?  My Lai?  Katyn?  Genocide isn't a proportional response

[Shaka Shart]

Proportionality is a luxury response for nations insulated by oceans.

Proportionality also encourages more attacks like Oct 7. 

Proportionality is always the call of the side that is losing.

War is hell.

Your comfort and confidence posting this on a basketball message board about how it's inevitable that women/children/civilians are shot and starved systematically because war is hell is a luxury response in itself.

I hope you don't someday have to make a decision to chance getting shot in the head to get some flour for your loved ones. I'd imagine your thoughts wouldn't be "well war is hell and proportionality isn't a luxury the shooters can afford."

Again, empathy is dead

[Pakuni]

The millionth time, Hamas wants to kill every Jew it can and doesn't care if Gazans get in the way of that. 

Israel put up with their terrorist
far too long.  War is hell.

I assume by "put up with" you mean "propped up."
As in, funded and helped keep in power.

Anyhow, you can't pretend to be outraged by events like Oct. 7 while also defending the intentional killing of noncombatants. I mean, you can, but people will correctly call you on your bullsh-t.

[Pakuni]

Proportionality is a luxury response for nations insulated by oceans.

Proportionality also encourages more attacks like Oct 7. 

Proportionality is always the call of the side that is losing.

War is hell.

The Geneva Convention is for suckers and losers.

[MuggsyB]

The Geneva Convention is for suckers and losers.

I don't support terrorists, Sharia Law, and convert or die.  You can criticize every religion in the world, but not Islam.  A Cornell professor who was "exhilarated" by the Hamas attacks still has his job.  That would never happen if someone burned Korans or celebrates the IDF throttling Hamas members.  Can you imagine what the response would be if a professor said they were "exhilarated" by Gazan civilian deaths?

[Badgerhater]

The Geneva Convention is for suckers and losers.

Which is why Hamas doesn't follow it, but will hide behind it when it suits them.

[Uncle Rico]

I don't support terrorists, Sharia Law, and convert or die.  You can criticize every religion in the world, but not Islam.  A Cornell professor who was "exhilarated" by the Hamas attacks still has his job.  That would never halogen if someone burned Korans or celebrates the IDF throttling Hamas members.  Can you imagine what the response would be if a professor said they were "exhilarated" by Gazan civilian deaths?

Islam sucks

[MuggsyB]

Islam sucks

There are significant probs within sects of that religion.  Ignoring it, and not dealing with this reality doesn't help.  Convert or die is a problem.   Their treatment of women and homosexuals is a problem.  Fear of death is a problem.  Having to have arned bodyguards for criticizing issues within Islam is a problem.  Our worldwide goal should be to help secular Muslims in lieu of allowing this horror show.  You're very comfortable criticizing Christianity.  Perhaps you should consider the pure evil ideology of a significant minority of Muslims. 

[Uncle Rico]

Islam sucks

There are significant probs within sects of that religion.  Ignoring it, and not dealing with this reality doesn't help.  Convert or die is a problem.   Their treatment of women and homosexuals is a problem.  Fear of death is a problem.  Having to have arned bodyguards for criticizing issues within Islam is a problem.  Our worldwide goal should be to help secular Muslims in lieu of allowing this horror show.  You're very comfortable criticizing Christianity.  Perhaps you should consider the pure evil ideology of a significant minority of Muslims. 

All religion sucks

[Pakuni]

I don't support terrorists, Sharia Law, and convert or die.  You can criticize every religion in the world, but not Islam.  A Cornell professor who was "exhilarated" by the Hamas attacks still has his job.  That would never happen if someone burned Korans or celebrates the IDF throttling Hamas members.  Can you imagine what the response would be if a professor said they were "exhilarated" by Gazan civilian deaths?

What are you talking about?
Islam is criticized all the time.
And people in Israel celebrate the death of Gazan civilians on the daily. Fans of the country's most popular soccer team have a chant that goes "There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/thousands-of-israeli-nationalists-chant-death-to-arabs-during-annual-procession-through-jerusalem

[MuggsyB]

What are you talking about?
Islam is criticized all the time.
And people in Israel celebrate the death of Gazan civilians on the daily. Fans of the country's most popular soccer team have a chant that goes "There are no schools in Gaza because there are no children left."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/thousands-of-israeli-nationalists-chant-death-to-arabs-during-annual-procession-through-jerusalem

You've been brainwashed by the media.  Individuals jagoffs are everywhere.  And if I were to burn a Koran in the middle of any major city in the USA it wouldn't end well for me. 

[Pakuni]

Which is why Hamas doesn't follow it, but will hide behind it when it suits them.

Hamas isn't a nation-state that has signed the Geneva Convention.
Do you know who is?

[Pakuni]

You've been brainwashed by the media.  Individuals jagoffs are everywhere.  And if I were to burn a Koran in the middle of any major city in the USA it wouldn't end well for me. 

We've reached the white grievance stage of Muggsy's arguments.