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[MU82]

This thread literally reads like 97% of you want the Iranian govt. to kill Americans and Israelis.  Essentially to prove this was a bad decision by the administration.

Insulting, inaccurate and inane.

[Pakuni]

You're respectfully making an apples to oranges argument.  If we "started a war" for example with Cambodia and Pol Pot in the 70's, or Sierra Leone and Rwanda in the 90's,, Mao and China during their cultural revolution, etc, etc, to save civilians from being slaughtered, would this have been a bad decision?

How many civilians are you willing to slaughter to save civilians from being slaughtered? Because in every major military conflict since the turn of the century, civilians have accounted for a significant percentage - and often majority - of the casualties.

[tower912]

You cannot prevent them.  That is some 'Minority Report', AI overlord bullshyte.  Like a gunman with no prior criminal record.  They aren't a criminal until they threaten someone with that gun.   A leader of a sovereign nation is not a murderer until he actually murders someone.  And at the international level, it is not possible or feasible to go around eliminating every leader our country finds offensive.  Because if the USA can do it, what stops another country from eliminating the leader of this country? 

Then you have the end of the world.

[Jay Bee]

The MODS must be really on vacation or their line in the sand on no politics has blown away.

The rule is liberals can say whatever they wish on Scoop

[Pakuni]

The rule is liberals can say whatever they wish on Scoop

#FakeNews #Lies
#JayBeeplaysthevictimcardworsethanhedoespickleball

[Shaka Shart]

More than 3 times as many Americans believe the Chupacabra exists than want war with Iran

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

How many civilians are you willing to slaughter to save civilians from being slaughtered? Because in every major military conflict since the turn of the century, civilians have accounted for a significant percentage - and often majority - of the casualties.

https://youtu.be/fYHTrxWZmwk?si=ujd5_FGinzLTKTK0

[MuggsyB]

Insulting, inaccurate and inane.

Well, the way it reads to me, is that the vast, vast, majority of people here are far more upset about our strike on Iranian nuclear sites than they were on Oct 7, 2023.

[NCMUFan]

More than 3 times as many Americans believe the Chupacabra exists than want war with Iran

What about Santa Claus?

[MuggsyB]

How many civilians are you willing to slaughter to save civilians from being slaughtered? Because in every major military conflict since the turn of the century, civilians have accounted for a significant percentage - and often majority - of the casualties.

I'm for stopping as many civilian lives as possible.  There is a misnomer that appeasement in certain situations accomplishes this goal.  You can definitely debate whether we should have dropped the two A-Bombs in 1945, but warfare is much different today.  What I will say is I'm 100% pro eliminating scumbag dictators, and their proxies, who essentially subjugate their own people and are pure evil.  My methods may be controversial, but this is how I feel.

[Shaka Shart]

Well, the way it reads to me, is that the vast, vast, majority of people here are far more upset about our strike on Iranian nuclear sites than they were on Oct 7, 2023.

But do you denounce Boko Haram?

[MuggsyB]

But do you denounce Boko Haram?

You're gosh damn right I do.  I have a lengthy list of people I denounce. 

[Pakuni]

I'm for stopping as many civilian lives as possible.  There is a misnomer that appeasement in certain situations accomplishes this goal.  You can definitely debate whether we should have dropped the two A-Bombs in 1945, but warfare is much different today.  What I will say is I'm 100% pro eliminating scumbag dictators, and their proxies, who essentially subjugate their own people and are pure evil.  My methods may be controversial, but this is how I feel.

So, when do we invade Saudi Arabia and Russia?

[Scoop Snoop]

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I'm for stopping as many civilian lives as possible.  There is a misnomer that appeasement in certain situations accomplishes this goal.  You can definitely debate whether we should have dropped the two A-Bombs in 1945, but warfare is much different today.  What I will say is I'm 100% pro eliminating scumbag dictators, and their proxies, who essentially subjugate their own people and are pure evil.  My methods may be controversial, but this is how I feel.

Tell us about your military service. Surely you were in special forces in one of the branches of the military, risking your life to eliminate those scumbags.

[MuggsyB]

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So, when do we invade Saudi Arabia and Russia?

I'm not for invasion, I'm for eliminating worldwide problems/fkbags.  That includes completely decimating these governments economically.  Now ideally I would have Denzel, Bronson, Neeson, and Beekeeper type dudes solving these issues quickly, but understand it's a little more complicated with some of them.

[MuggsyB]

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Tell us about your military service. Surely you were in special forces in one of the branches of the military, risking your life to eliminate those scumbags.

I never said I was in the Delta Force.  That's irrelevant. 

[MuggsyB]

BTW,

On numerous, numerous, occasions Bill Clinton stated his biggest regret was not acting in Rwanda and Sierra Leone. 

[JWags85]

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I'm not for invasion, I'm for eliminating worldwide problems/fkbags.  That includes completely decimating these governments economically.  Now ideally I would have Denzel, Bronson, Neeson, and Beekeeper type dudes solving these issues quickly, but understand it's a little more complicated with some of them.

Muggs, even giving you the benefit of the doubt.  The minute you start bringing up FICTIONAL MOVIE PROTAGONISTS to buttress a plan for violence driven world peace, you lose most all credibility in the most generous of lens.

[Scoop Snoop]

I never said I was in the Delta Force.  That's irrelevant. 

Simple question ...did you serve in the military in any way?

[GB Warrior]

What about Santa Claus?

By 7 it's marginal

[MU82]

Well, the way it reads to me, is that the vast, vast, majority of people here are far more upset about our strike on Iranian nuclear sites than they were on Oct 7, 2023.

Dirty Harry, the Sundance Kid and Rambo say you don't know how to read.

[The Sultan]

Muggs, even giving you the benefit of the doubt.  The minute you start bringing up FICTIONAL MOVIE PROTAGONISTS to buttress a plan for violence driven world peace, you lose most all credibility in the most generous of lens.

As I said, he is a child, with childlike vibes.

[forgetful]

The only outcomes from all of this (that killed a lot of civilians is):

1. Trump and Netanyahu can boast they took out Iran's nuclear capabilities...that they weren't pursuing and that weren't taken out because they were warned ahead of time.

2. The Iranian clerics can claim they forced Israel and the US into a cease fire by their attacks on US bases...that did nothing and were intentionally warned of ahead of time.

As a result, unpopular leaders can try to strengthen their governments through propaganda.

And, Iran will likely now pursue a nuclear weapon for real, and can have one in less than a year. Iran will also bolster their military, build more missiles, better air defense systems, and next time if they think they can do damage to Israel will attack unilaterally as revenge. In the meantime, they will use proxies to attack the US and Israel.

So, world is in a more dangerous place.

[Uncle Rico]

You cannot prevent them.  That is some 'Minority Report', AI overlord bullshyte.  Like a gunman with no prior criminal record.  They aren't a criminal until they threaten someone with that gun.   A leader of a sovereign nation is not a murderer until he actually murders someone.  And at the international level, it is not possible or feasible to go around eliminating every leader our country finds offensive.  Because if the USA can do it, what stops another country from eliminating the leader of this country? 

Then you have the end of the world.

We could prevent a lot of things with my 5-point plan

[Uncle Rico]

Or we can tweet in all caps