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[MU82]

No.

[Uncle Rico]

Would the middle east be more stable if Iran had a nuke?

Would the world be more stable with no nukes?

[NCMUFan]

No.  It is the same old song and dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6C_nyZLQR8&list=RDY6C_nyZLQR8&start_radio=1

[MuggsyB]

Would the middle east be more stable if Iran had a nuke?

Is this a serious question?

[MuggsyB]

Would the world be more stable with no nukes?

Is this a serious question?

Stable like the 20th c?  When 200 million+ people were starved  or slaughtered, not including the A-Bombs?

[Uncle Rico]

Is this a serious question?

Stable like the 20th c?  When 200 million+ people were starved  or slaughtered, not including the A-Bombs?

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If the world followed my 5-point plan, we wouldn't need nukes

[GB Warrior]

Is this a serious question?

Yes. Rico doesn't ask unserious questions.

[MuggsyB]

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If the world followed my 5-point plan, we wouldn't need nukes

This thread literally reads like 97% of you want the Iranian govt. to kill Americans and Israelis.  Essentially to prove this was a bad decision by the administration.  Now, I would do far more than this, and am still concerned about cyber and terror cell attacks, but perhaps we should wait and see what transpires moving forward?  Beyond that, I have a question:  If Israel took out Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iranian terrorist proxies, before the Oct 7th attack, would have you criticized that  or rip the Israeli government? 

[Shaka Shart]

This thread literally reads like 97% of you want the Iranian govt. to kill Americans and Israelis.  Essentially to prove this was a bad decision by the administration.  Now, I would do far more than this, and am still concerned about cyber and terror cell attacks, but perhaps we should wait and see what transpires moving forward?  Beyond that, I have a question:  If Israel took out Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iranian terrorist proxies before

Great question

[jesmu84]

Is this a serious question?

Yes.

Iran wouldn't use it - it would guarantee their destruction.

It would, however, end forever war status and eliminate power imbalance.

Don't see anyone attacking north Korea, right?

[Uncle Rico]

This thread literally reads like 97% of you want the Iranian govt. to kill Americans and Israelis.  Essentially to prove this was a bad decision by the administration.  Now, I would do far more than this, and am still concerned about cyber and terror cell attacks, but perhaps we should wait and see what transpires moving forward?  Beyond that, I have a question:  If Israel took out Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iranian terrorist proxies before

Oh, I'm not worried about proving anything about what you mention.  The proof is in the pudding and that pudding is missing it's key ingredient, my 5-point plan

[jesmu84]

This thread literally reads like 97% of you want the Iranian govt. to kill Americans and Israelis.  Essentially to prove this was a bad decision by the administration.  Now, I would do far more than this, and am still concerned about cyber and terror cell attacks, but perhaps we should wait and see what transpires moving forward?  Beyond that, I have a question:  If Israel took out Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iranian terrorist proxies, before the Oct 7th attack, would have you criticized that  or rip the Israeli government? 

I would look far more favorably on those moves by Israel than the genocide they're committing against the Palestinians

[Shaka Shart]

Israel should ditch their nukes out of solidarity

[The Sultan]

This thread literally reads like 97% of you want the Iranian govt. to kill Americans and Israelis.  Essentially to prove this was a bad decision by the administration. 

This is dumb.

Now, I would do far more than this

Of course you would. You are a child with child-like ideas.

perhaps we should wait and see what transpires moving forward?

Hey look! A rational thought. Right now this looks like everything is simmering down so that's exactly what we should do.

[Shaka Shart]

We should deport CSU coach Ali Farokhmanesh for that devastating nuke he dropped on Lawrence, Kansas and because his dad played for the Iranian  National volleyball team

[MuggsyB]

This is dumb.


Of course you would. You are a child with child-like ideas.


Hey look! A rational thought. Right now this looks like everything is simmering down so that's exactly what we should do.

95% said Churchill was irrational, it didn't exactly turn out that way.  Had we listened to Winston, we would have saved 100 million lives or more.  Appeasement is a euphemism for dumpster fire, as is the name Neville. 

[Shaka Shart]

95% said Churchill was irrational, it didn't exactly turn out that way.  Had we listened to Winston, we would have saved 100 million lives or more.  Appeasement is a euphemism for dumpster fire, as is the name Neville.

Churchill 🤝 Netanyahu
Starving millions of brown people

[tower912]

Yes.  Whoever starts the war is by definition the evil one.  Nazis invading Europe.  North Korea invading South Korea. Russia invading Ukraine.  December 7.  September 11.  October 7.  April 19, 1995.  The entity that launched the first strike is by definition  the one at fault. This is not a just war, by Catholic teaching. 

[MuggsyB]

Netanyahu and the Israeli govt was rightly criticized for being asleep at the wheel before the Oct 7th massacre.  Again, had he preemptively taken out Hamas and Hezbollah, or even just Hamas, before that ignominious act, how would have most of you responded? 

[MuggsyB]

Yes.  Whoever starts the war is by definition the evil one.  Nazis invading Europe.  North Korea invading South Korea. Russia invading Ukraine.  December 7.  September 11.  October 7.  April 19, 1995.  The entity that launched the first strike is by definition  the one at fault. This is not a just war, by Catholic teaching.

 

You're respectfully making an apples to oranges argument.  If we "started a war" for example with Cambodia and Pol Pot in the 70's, or Sierra Leone and Rwanda in the 90's,, Mao and China during their cultural revolution, etc, etc, to save civilians from being slaughtered, would this have been a bad decision?

[MUBurrow]

Netanyahu and the Israeli govt was rightly criticized for being asleep at the wheel before the Oct 7th massacre.  Again, had he preemptively taken out Hamas and Hezbollah, or even just Hamas, before that ignominious act, how would have most of you responded?

As opposed to, you know, actively propping them up?

[The Sultan]

95% said Churchill was irrational, it didn't exactly turn out that way.  Had we listened to Winston, we would have saved 100 million lives or more.  Appeasement is a euphemism for dumpster fire, as is the name Neville.

First, nowhere close to that percentage said that about Churchill.

Second, 100 million? Gimme a break. The British and French were nowhere close to ready to take on Germany when they annexed Austria and the Sudentenland, especially when it was at peace with the Soviets.

If you're gonna use history, at least get it right. Or even close to getting it right.

[The Sultan]

You're respectfully making an apples to oranges argument.  If we "started a war" for example with Cambodia and Pol Pot in the 70's, or Sierra Leone and Rwanda in the 90's,, Mao and China during their cultural revolution, etc, etc, to save civilians from being slaughtered, would this have been a bad decision?

Yes. The United States isn't responsible for fixing the atrocities of the world. That's what's gotten us into these messes to begin with.

[tower912]

You're respectfully making an apples to oranges argument.  If we "started a war" for example with Cambodia and Pol Pot in the 70's, or Sierra Leone and Rwanda in the 90's,, Mao and China during their cultural revolution, etc, etc, to save civilians from being slaughtered, would this have been a bad decision?

Yes.  Morally reprehensible.  A violation of every treaty, every charter, and most of the commandments.  The US would be the worst of rogue states and the rest of the world would rightly rise up.

[MuggsyB]

Yes.  Morally reprehensible.  A violation of every treaty, every charter, and most of the commandments.  The US would be the worst of rogue states and the rest of the world would rightly rise up.

Yes. The United States isn't responsible for fixing the atrocities of the world. That's what's gotten us into these messes to begin with.

So Bosnia was a mistake?  And letting Sierra Leone and Rwandan civilians get massacred was a good decision?  That fake red-line with Assad was a good decision? I couldn't disagree  more.

We've made idiotic decisions handling these atrocities and their scumbag despotic rulers.  And you can add the asshead, animal poachers, and all those involved as well.  If we have the ability to prevent ubiquitous massacres, we shouldn't do anything because....it's not our responsibility?  I vehemently disagree.