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[NCMUFan]

We need to bomb Saudi Arabia and take the wells

Don't you drive an electric vehicle?

[GB Warrior]

Was this, as his niece suggested, just about ego because he was hurt over the TACO nickname?

If there's one thing I'm sure of it's that Chuck Schumer has never successfully hurt someones feelings

[Jockey]

If there's one thing I'm sure of it's that Chuck Schumer has never successfully hurt someones feelings

I don't know about that. He told us he wrote a really, really, really mean letter to trump.

[Billy Hoyle]

Was this, as his niece suggested, just about ego because he was hurt over the TACO nickname?

I'm sure that was a factor (poll numbers after LA too), but also insiders have mentioned he gets all of his "intelligence" from Fox News, and he was jealous of the praise being lavished on Bibi and wanted a piece of the action.

[JWags85]

If there's one thing I'm sure of it's that Chuck Schumer has never successfully hurt someones feelings

What would you rather trust Schumer with: being hard and brutally effective when needed...or knowing how to grill a burger?

[The Sultan]

Was this, as his niece suggested, just about ego because he was hurt over the TACO nickname?

This is the registered Democrat neice who has sued him, and he has countersued back, correct? I probably wouldn't put too much stock in that.

[Jockey]

I'm sure that was a factor (poll numbers after LA too), but also insiders have mentioned he gets all of his "intelligence" from Fox News, and he was jealous of the praise being lavished on Bibi and wanted a piece of the action.

My post was meant as snark.

Yours has a chance of being very close to the truth.

[Billy Hoyle]

My post was meant as snark.

Yours has a chance of being very close to the truth.

With Dear Leader, the lines of sarcasm and reality are so blurred these days.

[Jockey]

Trump: "Our president (Obama) will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate."

[The Sultan]

What would you rather trust Schumer with: being hard and brutally effective when needed...or knowing how to grill a burger?

Depends...is he using American cheese? 

[The Sultan]

If we had a savvier administration/diplomatic gamers, I would say maybe the back channels is actually the US/Iran agreeing to allow them to move the uranium to a different facility for whatever reason, while bombing the key sites to prove a point, show force and control to the world, and set the tone for a new calmer relationship in reaction to the strikes.  But we don't have that sort of thing and everything that has come out after surely wouldn't remotely hint at that.

On a different point, I haven't found an intelligent POV on it, so I don't have any basis or thought out arguments for or against, but one thing I thought about while explaining everything thats occurred to my wife is...say there is no evidence or whatnot that Iran is building a nuke or is progressing in that direction.  But they are insistent and unyielding about enriched uranium production, to the detriment of negotiations and feelings of peace.  Is there an angle of concern that a third party, whether other Iran-funded groups, another nation, etc.. and Iran would be supplying them with enriched uranium, funding, resources/know how, etc...  Its not a far out conspiracy theory given how Iran has had other parties do their dirty work for years giving plausible deniability and distance from actual violence and warfare.

It could be totally fantastical and a Jack Reacher plot point more than realistic scenario, but just something I thought about.  And again, the current administration isn't given any indication or positioning that makes it seem like such a surreptitious situation is being proactively approached.

The problem is that people are assuming that Iran isn't being a rational actor. Giving their proxy groups a nuclear weapon would result in Iran's instant destruction. I think the idea that the mullahs would instantly nuke Israel off the map is foolish. Making sure that everyone knows they have that ability gives them more strength and flexibility.

[Pakuni]

The problem is that people are assuming that Iran isn't being a rational actor. Giving their proxy groups a nuclear weapon would result in Iran's instant destruction. I think the idea that the mullahs would instantly nuke Israel off the map is foolish. Making sure that everyone knows they have that ability gives them more strength and flexibility.

Yep.
For Iran, getting a nuke is more about its ability to wield power over unfriendly Arab states than it is about some suicidal plan to disappear Israel.

[Pakuni]

It's all theater, apparently.

[Billy Hoyle]

Trump: "Our president (Obama) will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate."

"He's weak and he's ineffective," Trump says in the video. "So the only way he figures he's going to get re-elected is to start a war with Iran."

[jesmu84]

JD/Rubio/Hegseth: "It's about the nukes, not regime change"

*5 minutes later*

Trump: "We want regime change"

[The Sultan]

It's all theater, apparently.

So...that's it?

[jesmu84]

So...that's it?

Makes me think US told Iran where the 3 bombings were going to be - allowing them time to move people/uranium to safety

[cheebs09]

Wouldn't be shocking for a WWE HOF'r. Maybe this was the real military parade.

[GB Warrior]

Makes me think US told Iran where the 3 bombings were going to be - allowing them time to move people/uranium to safety

Good use of the taxpayer money we saved from DOGE

[Uncle Rico]

Don't you drive an electric vehicle?

No, I want to MAGA

[Jockey]

JD/Rubio/Hegseth: "It's about the nukes, not regime change"

*5 minutes later*

Trump: "We want regime change"

By tomorrow those guys will be saying "that's what I said. The media took it out of context".

Can you even imagine the supply of knee pads that are needed at the WH?

[NCMUFan]

No, I want to MAGA

Is that a new dance or something?

[tower912]

No.  It is the same old song and dance.

[muwarrior69]

The MODS must be really on vacation or their line in the sand on no politics has blown away.

[jesmu84]

Would the middle east be more stable if Iran had a nuke?