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[brewcity77]

Yeah, saying for the past week "maybe I'll bomb them, maybe I won't" gave them plenty of time to move anything critical. Surprise attacks don't really work when you announce them in advance.

[The Sultan]

BTW, they were set back months - not 20 years.

Their long range plan may be set back years, but creating a rudimentary bombshell, aka Hiroshima, can still be accomplished quickly if they so desire.

And now have a greater motivation to do so. The world is way more dangerous now than it was yesterday.

[GB Warrior]

Yeah, saying for the past week "maybe I'll bomb them, maybe I won't" gave them plenty of time to move anything critical. Surprise attacks don't really work when you announce them in advance.

To be fair I was caught off guard that we'd be so stupid to debate it publicly when we planned on actually doing it.

Probably says more about me at this point to be honest.

[Jockey]

To be fair I was caught off guard that we'd be so stupid to debate it publicly when we planned on actually doing it.

Probably says more about me at this point to be honest.

The Guardian is reporting that the enriched uranium was moved and the facility evacuated days ago, according to an Iranian official.

Because, as you said, some idiot talked about it as though it was a live sporting event.

[Shaka Shart]

We cannot think of Iran -- or any part of the Middle East for that matter -- in American or Western terms. These are countries incapable of a pluralistic society. They're tribal and their culture is to see hatred in anyone who threatens their tribe. That's why all the peace initiatives, save one, haven't worked. 

I'm sure our peace initiatives driven predominantly because they had something we wanted were looking out for what was best for their culture.

Also you should avoid painting a region of 500m people and countless cultures stretching thousands of years as "They're tribal and their culture is to see hatred in anyone who threatens their tribe."

That's like saying "baseball fans are all racist homophobic bigots" just because all the cardinals fans are boycotting Pride night and Juneteenth at the ballpark

[NCMUFan]

Wonder how D-Day would have gone if it occurred today.

[Shaka Shart]

Wonder how D-Day would have gone if it occurred today.

You'd never be able to have a D Day in this day and age due to wokeness

[MuggsyB]

Muggsy just exploded in his pants like a SpaceX rocket test

Why would I be happy about an itsy pinprick strike? 

[MuggsyB]

Wonder how D-Day would have gone if it occurred today.

It depends which party was in office. 

[MuggsyB]

What's the over/under on Iranian terrorism on US soil set at?  1 week?  2?

This has always been a daily concern for a long time.

Iranian leadership has two goals:  1) Death to Israel.  2) Death to America.  That's it.  Nothing has changed. 

[tower912]

Wonder how D-Day would have gone if it occurred today.

Differently.  Because of the clown show.

[Pakuni]

Iran's parliament has voted to close the Strait of Hormuz, cutting off 20% of the world's oil supply.
I wonder what oil-producing nation in the neighborhood might benefit from such a thing.

[NCMUFan]

Differently.  Because of the clown show.

Please explain.

[Pakuni]

Please explain.

Henry Stimson vs Pete Hegseth.
Who you got?

[The Sultan]

This has always been a daily concern for a long time.

Iranian leadership has two goals:  1) Death to Israel.  2) Death to America.  That's it.  Nothing has changed. 

You are so easy to manipulate. Think a little for once.

[NCMUFan]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-the-us-military-tricked-everyone-to-surprise-iran-with-b-2-bomber-strikes-on-its-nuclear-sites/ar-AA1Hc5oP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=85d96be7a5f2483e8540f4e9fa52e797&ei=16

[The Sultan]

Wonder how D-Day would have gone if it occurred today.

The fact that you would compare the two is laughable.

[tower912]

Please explain.

Self evident.

[NCMUFan]

ChatGPT
Could Iran close the Strait of Hormuz?


ChatGPT said:
Iran could attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz, but doing so would be extremely risky, provoke significant international backlash, and likely be unsustainable. Here's a breakdown:

1. Why the Strait of Hormuz Matters
It is the world's most critical oil chokepoint.

About 20% of global oil trade passes through it (around 17 million barrels/day).

It links the Persian Gulf with the Arabian Sea and Indian Ocean, making it vital for countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, UAE, and Kuwait.

2. Iran's Capability
Iran has:

Mines, fast attack boats, anti-ship missiles, submarines, and drones.

Revolutionary Guard Navy (IRGCN) specializes in asymmetric naval warfare in the confined waters of the Gulf.

They could disrupt or harass shipping and even block the Strait temporarily.

3. Challenges and Risks for Iran
U.S. and allied naval forces (especially the U.S. Fifth Fleet in Bahrain) maintain a strong presence and would respond quickly.

A full blockade would be an act of war, possibly triggering U.S. or coalition military strikes.

Iran depends on the Strait too—its own oil exports, imports, and economy rely on it.

Global backlash: Sanctions, military retaliation, diplomatic isolation.

4. Historical Context
Iran has threatened to close the Strait during tensions (e.g., nuclear deal fallout, 2012, 2019), but has never done so.

Past actions (e.g., seizing tankers, laying mines) were meant as deterrents or messages, not full closures.

Conclusion
Iran can threaten or partially disrupt the Strait of Hormuz, especially short-term, but a total and sustained closure is highly unlikely due to:

Military inferiority against global navies,

Economic self-harm,

The near certainty of a massive retaliatory response.

Threats are more of a strategic leverage tool than a realistic long-term option.

[NCMUFan]

Is the Strait of Hormuz international waters?


ChatGPT said:
The Strait of Hormuz is a narrow international strait but its legal status is more complex than simply being "international waters."

⚖️ Legal Status:
The Strait of Hormuz is governed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) — although Iran has not ratified UNCLOS, it generally adheres to customary international maritime law.

Here's what that means:

1. Territorial Waters:
The Strait is only about 21 nautical miles wide at its narrowest.

Under international law, a country's territorial sea extends 12 nautical miles from its coastline.

Therefore, both Iranian and Omani territorial waters completely overlap the Strait—there are no "high seas" in the strait itself.

2. Transit Passage Rights:
UNCLOS provides for "transit passage" through international straits used for global navigation.

This means foreign ships and aircraft (military and civilian) have the right to unimpeded transit through the Strait, even though it passes through territorial waters.

Transit passage cannot be suspended, even in times of tension or war.

🇮🇷 Iran's Position:
Iran disputes some aspects of this interpretation because it has not signed UNCLOS.

Iran argues that only peaceful passage applies, not full "transit passage," and has tried to restrict military vessels, particularly U.S. Navy ships.

The U.S. does not recognize Iran's restrictions and asserts freedom of navigation under customary international law.

🌍 Global Consensus:
Most of the world treats the Strait of Hormuz as an international strait with transit passage rights.

This legal framework protects global shipping, even though the waters technically fall within Iranian and Omani territory.

✅ Summary:
Not international waters (not "high seas") — the Strait is within territorial waters of Iran and Oman.

But it is an international strait, so foreign vessels have legal rights to transit without interference, under international law.

Iran could challenge or disrupt those rights, but doing so would violate international norms and provoke military or diplomatic response.

[Shaka Shart]

Why would I be happy about an itsy pinprick strike? 

Because your itsy pinprick exploded just like the strike

[Shaka Shart]

Is the Strait of Hormuz international waters?


ChatGPT said:
The Strait of Hormuz is a narrow international strait but its legal status is more complex than simply being "international waters."

⚖️ Legal Status:
The Strait of Hormuz is governed by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) — although Iran has not ratified UNCLOS, it generally adheres to customary international maritime law.

Here's what that means:

1. Territorial Waters:
The Strait is only about 21 nautical miles wide at its narrowest.

Under international law, a country's territorial sea extends 12 nautical miles from its coastline.

Therefore, both Iranian and Omani territorial waters completely overlap the Strait—there are no "high seas" in the strait itself.

2. Transit Passage Rights:
UNCLOS provides for "transit passage" through international straits used for global navigation.

This means foreign ships and aircraft (military and civilian) have the right to unimpeded transit through the Strait, even though it passes through territorial waters.

Transit passage cannot be suspended, even in times of tension or war.

🇮🇷 Iran's Position:
Iran disputes some aspects of this interpretation because it has not signed UNCLOS.

Iran argues that only peaceful passage applies, not full "transit passage," and has tried to restrict military vessels, particularly U.S. Navy ships.

The U.S. does not recognize Iran's restrictions and asserts freedom of navigation under customary international law.

🌍 Global Consensus:
Most of the world treats the Strait of Hormuz as an international strait with transit passage rights.

This legal framework protects global shipping, even though the waters technically fall within Iranian and Omani territory.

✅ Summary:
Not international waters (not "high seas") — the Strait is within territorial waters of Iran and Oman.

But it is an international strait, so foreign vessels have legal rights to transit without interference, under international law.

Iran could challenge or disrupt those rights, but doing so would violate international norms and provoke military or diplomatic response.

This might align with your interests 

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/s/V8Orjjw7tQ

[The Sultan]

Sure. It would clearly be an "illegal" act to close the Strait. But it would be in response to another "illegal" act...or multitudes of them actually.  And would require significant military intervention to reopen them.

[NCMUFan]

This might align with your interests 

https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/s/V8Orjjw7tQ

I see you were scoping it out.

[jesmu84]

https://x.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1936822677899280784?t=oSDfp8I5YD34TGEDy7eL9Q&s=19