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tower912

#1850
I sympathize and empathize with the frustration of watching your team not hit.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

From Yahoo Sports:

The Yankees' unceremonious exit from the ALDS extended a rather surprising drought for teams in the New York metropolitan area, which have gone 14 years and counting since their last championship in one of the "Big Four" leagues.

Most recent titles: Despite boasting more teams than any other metro area (9), the Big Apple's last "Big Four" championship came from the Giants all the way back in Super Bowl XLVI.

🏈 Giants: 2011
⚾️ Yankees: 2009
🏒 Devils: 2003
🏒 Rangers: 1994
⚾️ Mets: 1986
🏒 Islanders: 1983
🏀 Knicks: 1973
🏈 Jets: 1968
🏀 Nets: N/A

Just how bad is it right now? The only longer championship drought in Gotham were the 15 years between the 1905 and 1921 World Series titles by the New York Giants (MLB). That was so long ago that none of the teams listed above, with the exception of the Yankees, even existed.

New York's saviors: It may not count for the purposes of this exercise, but at least the Liberty (2024 WNBA champions) and NYC FC (2021 MLS champions) ensured New York didn't get completely shut out from championship parades in recent years.
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tower912

They need to annex Storrs so that at least they will have NCAA championships.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

wadesworld

Cubs fans were chanting "Green Bay sucks" at the Cubs vs. Brewers game last night?  And are bragging about it?  I don't think that's as cool as Chicago sports fans might think it is...

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on October 10, 2025, 11:45:26 AMCubs fans were chanting "Green Bay sucks" at the Cubs vs. Brewers game last night?  And are bragging about it?  I don't think that's as cool as Chicago sports fans might think it is...

Bears still suck was played at AmFam.  Both are dumb at a baseball game but as I always say, fans are idiots
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: wadesworld on October 10, 2025, 11:45:26 AMCubs fans were chanting "Green Bay sucks" at the Cubs vs. Brewers game last night?  And are bragging about it?  I don't think that's as cool as Chicago sports fans might think it is...

Have heard Packers fan start "Bears still suck" chants at Brewers games.

Who cares?

wadesworld

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 10, 2025, 12:08:15 PMHave heard Packers fan start "Bears still suck" chants at Brewers games.

Who cares?

Not that I've been at, but maybe.

And you, apparently.

CreightonWarrior

Going to go deep into my Muggsy-level analysis and say the brewers need to win game 5 tomorrow.

cheebs09

The optimist in me feels the Brewers will have their backs against the wall and feel no one expects them to win, so they come out on purpose.

The pessimist in me sees Miz starting and not finding the zone and a few runs go in the first and we never really threaten.

I hope Quintana starts and gets us a zero in the first. I think that would go a long way to calming the nerves and getting the crowd in it.

The Sultan

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 10, 2025, 01:01:02 PMThe optimist in me feels the Brewers will have their backs against the wall and feel no one expects them to win, so they come out on purpose.

The pessimist in me sees Miz starting and not finding the zone and a few runs go in the first and we never really threaten.

I hope Quintana starts and gets us a zero in the first. I think that would go a long way to calming the nerves and getting the crowd in it.


Priester could also start right? He only threw 39 pitches in Game 3 and hadn't started before that since September 26.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 01:03:46 PMPriester could also start right? He only threw 39 pitches in Game 3 and hadn't started before that since September 26.

I'll be somewhat shocked if it isn't Ashby again. Feel quite confident it's a LHP regardless
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

cheebs09

Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 01:03:46 PMPriester could also start right? He only threw 39 pitches in Game 3 and hadn't started before that since September 26.

I think he could. I'm more thinking Quintana due to being a lefty to face Busch and Tucker.

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2025, 01:04:57 PMI'll be somewhat shocked if it isn't Ashby again. Feel quite confident it's a LHP regardless

 :-\  :-\  :-\
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

My guess is Quintana to open. I think they will prioitize having a lefty whenever Buschs spot in the lineup comes up.
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HutchwasClutch

Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 01:03:46 PMPriester could also start right? He only threw 39 pitches in Game 3 and hadn't started before that since September 26.

You're kidding, right?  Pretend you're Murphy for a minute.

The Sultan

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 10, 2025, 02:00:43 PMYou're kidding, right?  Pretend you're Murphy for a minute.

He's the best starting pitcher available. Would I do it? Probably not. But regardless, I am 100% positive he pitches tomorrow at some point.
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HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2025, 01:04:57 PMI'll be somewhat shocked if it isn't Ashby again. Feel quite confident it's a LHP regardless
Ashby hasn't looked good at all. 

HutchwasClutch

Think it's going to be Quintana or Koenig. Miz will get a call for sure. He's shown more poise this series than just about anyone.

It's a hellacious decision for Murphy.  There's nothing that's very appealing. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 10, 2025, 02:07:33 PMAshby hasn't looked good at all. 


Now that I've thought about it, I'd guess Quintana. 

The Woodruff injury really waylaid things, though, win games 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have this discussion.

I haven't liked how they handled the rotation.  Just go Freddy, Jose, Quinn.  Feels like they've really overthought the roster the last 3 post-season appearances.
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2025, 02:18:55 PMNow that I've thought about it, I'd guess Quintana. 

The Woodruff injury really waylaid things, though, win games 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have this discussion.

I haven't liked how they handled the rotation.  Just go Freddy, Jose, Quinn.  Feels like they've really overthought the roster the last 3 post-season appearances.

Woodruff was a huge blow.  Although Cubs didn't have Horton.

I agree mostly about overthinking this.  I don't understand why he didn't just give Quintana a start by now.  Priester's meltdown was very surprising, but can never tell how young guys, especially pitchers, will handle postseason pressure.  That probably all factored into how Murphy's handled the staff.

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2025, 02:18:55 PMNow that I've thought about it, I'd guess Quintana. 

The Woodruff injury really waylaid things, though, win games 3 or 4 and we wouldn't have this discussion.

I haven't liked how they handled the rotation.  Just go Freddy, Jose, Quinn.  Feels like they've really overthought the roster the last 3 post-season appearances.


Agreed. I think this is how they get themselves in trouble. Start your starters and let the team go through its routine. You can always pull a guy early if it doesn't work.

Although I would have started Quinn at home.
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cheebs09

I was hoping they'd give Quintana a start in Game 3. A lot of Wrigley experience and postseason experience. Leave the bullpen game for if you have to pull someone early or need all hands on deck.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on October 10, 2025, 02:27:01 PMAgreed. I think this is how they get themselves in trouble. Start your starters and let the team go through its routine. You can always pull a guy early if it doesn't work.

Although I would have started Quinn at home.

Yeah, could have gone Quinn, Jose.  I did read that Quinn's stuff plays better at Wrigley when the wind is blowing in but I think that would have applied to Ashby, too.

I don't know we'll ever find out what happened but the Tobias Meyers situation is bizarre.  I guess an extra lefty in this series makes sense but they punted on him in the entire second half as well.
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

Uncle Rico

#1873
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on October 10, 2025, 02:25:02 PMWoodruff was a huge blow.  Although Cubs didn't have Horton.

I agree mostly about overthinking this.  I don't understand why he didn't just give Quintana a start by now.  Priester's meltdown was very surprising, but can never tell how young guys, especially pitchers, will handle postseason pressure.  That probably all factored into how Murphy's handled the staff.


Having Lockridge on this roster is inexcusable, too.  I know they love their defensive metrics but in a short series, give me some extra lumber.
Thus says the Lord of hosts: Render true judgments, show kindness and mercy to one another; do not oppress the widow, the orphan, the alien, or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 10, 2025, 02:35:40 PMHaving Lockridge on this roster is inexcusable, too.  I know they love their defensive metrics but in a short series, give me some extra lumber.
Yes, he had no business being kept on when you have a healthy veteran like Hoskins sitting down.  I know Hoskins did nothing when he came back in September, but a very small sample size and he's had big postseason success.

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