2025 MLB Season

[Uncle Rico]

So what's stopping a defense from pretending they don't see it to nullify the infield fly?

Umpires judgment.  It's a very gray area but was the right call in this instance.  The Cubs clearly lost the ball in the air.

[18thandWells]

This call was worse in the 2012 playoffs.

[CreightonWarrior]

Umpires judgment.  It's a very gray area but was the right call in this instance.  The Cubs clearly lost the ball in the air.

Adding on, there's rules against intentionally dropping what should be a routine catch to try to get a double play. but the infield fly rule specifically nullifies what talltitan is suggesting.

The only way to "trick" the umpires into not calling it is to have no one go anywhere near the ball, which is what the cubs did and all runners safely advanced. it was clearly the rigtht call.

[TallTitan34]

Infield fly rule:  https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/jXfDa82t2u

No infield fly rule:  https://x.com/devinegospel/status/1976034566172520683?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

[CreightonWarrior]

Infield fly rule:  https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/jXfDa82t2u

No infield fly rule:  https://x.com/devinegospel/status/1976034566172520683?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

They're both judgement calls by the umpire. Again Brewers fan but I umpired baseball for like 6 years. These look like two completely different situations to me.

[Uncle Rico]

They're both judgement calls by the umpire. Again Brewers fan but I umpired baseball for like 6 years. These look like two completely different situations to me.

Might be a conspiracy to keep the Cubs out of the LCS because Ron Darling likes them so much.

[CreightonWarrior]

Might be a conspiracy to keep the Cubs out of the LCS because Ron Darling likes them so much.

Serves them right. If only he wouldn't have watched The Bear and became obssesed.

[Shaka Shart]

You'd think since there wasn't an ear splitting roar from thousands of fans not paying attention to who was batting or the ball trajectory, they would have known the ball was egregiously routine.

[MUBurrow]

Infield fly rule:  https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/jXfDa82t2u

No infield fly rule:  https://x.com/devinegospel/status/1976034566172520683?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw

I'm slow in the brain, but can someone explain why the infield fly rule should ever be invoked to punish an offense? It seems to me that if a runner is ever thrown out on an infield fly that drops, THEN the umpire should have the option to invoke an infield fly rule to give the offense the option to treat the ball as caught and allow all runners return to their original bases.

[CreightonWarrior]

I'm slow in the brain, but can someone explain why the infield fly rule should ever be invoked to punish an offense? It seems to me that if a runner is ever thrown out on an infield fly that drops, THEN the umpire should have the option to invoke an infield fly rule to give the offense the option to treat the ball as caught and allow all runners return to their original bases.

thats exactly what infield fly is.

[Uncle Rico]

I'm slow in the brain, but can someone explain why the infield fly rule should ever be invoked to punish an offense? It seems to me that if a runner is ever thrown out on an infield fly that drops, THEN the umpire should have the option to invoke an infield fly rule to give the offense the option to treat the ball as caught and allow all runners return to their original bases.

It's an archaic rule designed to protect the offense.  Before it, teams would let the ball drop to try and initiate a double play.

It was not applied properly yesterday.

[BM1090]

I didn't see it live and only saw the replay so I'm not really sure what was going on in the game, but it almost seems like Lockridge made that decision on his own.  And he bunted right into a defensive setup that was kind of naturally in position to defend a bunt with the 1B holding the runner on at first, so already in and on the line (like I said, didn't see it live so thought it was 2nd and 3rd, not 1st and 3rd).  He bunted as if he the Cubs were playing way back and shifted up the middle on the right side, and all he had to do was get it past the pitcher to the right and he'd have a bunt base hit.  It was pretty baffling.

That probably was a situation to pinch hit Collins and keep him in the OF the rest of the game.

Can't do that. Neither Sal or Chourio can play CF with their injuries right now. And you don't want Collins out there.

Definitely could have pinch hit Collins and then thrown Perkins in Center though

[MUBurrow]

It's an archaic rule designed to protect the offense.  Before it, teams would let the ball drop to try and initiate a double play.

It was not applied properly yesterday.

It seems that people wanted it invoked yesterday to call Contreras out? That would have punished the Brewers for Chicago not making the catch, which doesn't seem like the point.

I get invoking it if Turang had been thrown out at second (going to ignore that Yelich advanced to third to keep it simple).

[BM1090]

The infield fly call was clearly called correctly by the umps. Not really a debate. If Swanson covers 2nd like he should have it drops and it's an easy out there

[Uncle Rico]

It seems that people wanted it invoked yesterday to call Contreras out? That would have punished the Brewers for Chicago not making the catch, which doesn't seem like the point.

I get invoking it if Turang had been thrown out at second (going to ignore that Yelich advanced to third to keep it simple).

I'm guessing most people didn't understand the part where umps can use their judgement to invoke it or not and that's why there is some confusion.  It's pretty unusual what happened and we don't see it very often

[TallTitan34]

The infield fly call was clearly called correctly by the umps. Not really a debate. If Swanson covers 2nd like he should have it drops and it's an easy out there

I'm more upset about them not getting the out at second then losing it in the sky.

[MuggsyB]

Sweet Jesus.  Terrible pitch there.  Can't happen. 

[tower912]

Holy choke!   Poor guy.  With Phillie phans, it may not be safe to go back.

[The Sultan]

Holy choke!   Poor guy.  With Phillie phans, it may not be safe to go back.

That was something. Just panicked.

[MuggsyB]

Yikes. 

[MuggsyB]

52 pitches for Pwralta through 2 innings isn't ideal.  Who would pitch a potential Gane 5 for Milwaukee?

[cheebs09]

52 pitches for Pwralta through 2 innings isn't ideal.  Who would pitch a potential Gane 5 for Milwaukee?

Everyone except Peralta.

[MuggsyB]

Everyone except Peralta.

Not having Woodruff has hurt the Brewers.  They really need to wake up. 

[cheebs09]

They are making life too easy for Boyd.

I really don't like that Murphy has used a different order these last two games.

[MuggsyB]

Turang has struggled in this series.