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tower912

Quote from: MU82 on October 03, 2025, 12:33:26 PMSo just Game 2 after the Mariners win in 3 or 4.
Skubal threw a season high 107 pitches on Tuesday.  They aren't going to follow that up with short rest.   I predict Keider Montero and a cast of thousands for game 1.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

PointWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on October 03, 2025, 12:33:26 PMSo just Game 2 after the Mariners win in 3 or 4.

Tigers in 3. I wont be able to afford Brewers-Mariners World Series tickets in Seattle.


PointWarrior

#1527
Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2025, 12:37:21 PMSkubal threw a season high 107 pitches on Tuesday.  They aren't going to follow that up with short rest.   I predict Keider Montero and a cast of thousands for game 1.

But we were assured the pitching of teams having to play in the wild card are not affected in the divisional round.

tower912

Who said that?  And why? 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

 I am not going to predict the Seattle-Detroit series. I don't know which Tigers team will show up.  The one that went 7-17 in September and 1-12 around the all-star break?  8-29 overall and about as abysmal and frustrating as any stretch I have seen.   Or the one that went 79-46 in the other 3/4 of the season?  Because that is pretty good.

I would like to think that one good inning was enough to reset their brains and their swings and they can return to being the team that got the 15.5 game lead in the first place.  However, I am not optimistic enough to predict that.   Sure would be nice, though.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

I did not see that coming. Cam Schlitter pitched a beauty of a game last night for the Yanks. Not sure what to make of the Yanks this season, but I can dream of number 28.


The Sultan

Since the the wild card game (or series) has been introduced, exactly half of the wild card winners have moved on to the league championship series. Considering those teams have had worse records, and playing without home field advantage in the divisional round, that would suggest that there may be some slight advantages to playing instead of sitting.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: The Sultan on October 03, 2025, 02:17:53 PMSince the the wild card game (or series) has been introduced, exactly half of the wild card winners have moved on to the league championship series. Considering those teams have had worse records, and playing without home field advantage in the divisional round, that would suggest that there may be some slight advantages to playing instead of sitting.

Correct.  If they removed the off days between the end of the regular season and the start of the Playoffs (since there's no game 163 anymore) and moved the start of the Division Series to the day after potential game 3s in the Wild Card round it'd definitely be a big advantage for teams that get the bye.  As it is?  Skubal could (and, in my opinion, should) start game 1 and go for game 4 if it gets there.

Obviously the big advantage is you don't have to win your way into the Divisional Series.  But once there, you've been playing and won a series against a good (unless you're the Dodgers) team with the ideal amount of off days over the past week.  For the Brewers, the time off hopefully lets at least Quintana return to the rotation.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: The Sultan on October 03, 2025, 07:09:20 AMIt's too bad the Brewers have to head back to that dump. MLB should move the Cubs home games to Rate Field for the sake of the fans.

If the Brewers want to play their home games at Rate Field that works for me. 

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TallTitan34 on October 03, 2025, 07:38:39 AMNo issues with him starting the 9th. My issue is he should have been pulled two batters sooner when it was clear he didn't have control.

He was ahead 1-2 on both of the guys he hit and Kittredge had pitched the previous 2 games so it was a tough call.  Glad it worked out. 

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan on October 03, 2025, 02:17:53 PMSince the the wild card game (or series) has been introduced, exactly half of the wild card winners have moved on to the league championship series. Considering those teams have had worse records, and playing without home field advantage in the divisional round, that would suggest that there may be some slight advantages to playing instead of sitting.

I don't doubt that. But we also know that last year's World Series participants had the best records in the NL (Dodgers) and AL (Yankees) and therefore had first-round byes.

Not enough data yet IMHO to really establish a trend, but as I said I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slight advantage to having played in the WC round.

If, say, the Brewers and Mariners benefit from getting players healthy, I don't know how that could possibly be considered a bad thing.

But the good news is we'll know soon enough which teams had which advantages and disadvantages.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 03, 2025, 03:24:15 PMI don't doubt that. But we also know that last year's World Series participants had the best records in the NL (Dodgers) and AL (Yankees) and therefore had first-round byes.

Not enough data yet IMHO to really establish a trend, but as I said I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slight advantage to having played in the WC round.

There have been 32 wild card games / series since it was introduced in 2012. 16 of the winners of those games / series have gone onto the LCS.  To further break it down, since the three game series was introduced in 2022, there have been 12 series. 6 of those winners have gone onto the LCS. This despite arguably being the WORSE team, and not having home field advantage.

So you don't think that's been enough data to "suggest there may be some slight advantages?" And you bring up last year as some sort of counter?

Man, I guess sports journalism really doesn't attract the best and brightest.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan on October 03, 2025, 03:38:01 PMThere have been 32 wild card games / series since it was introduced in 2012. 16 of the winners of those games / series have gone onto the LCS.  To further break it down, since the three game series was introduced in 2022, there have been 12 series. 6 of those winners have gone onto the LCS. This despite arguably being the WORSE team, and not having home field advantage.

So you don't think that's been enough data to "suggest there may be some slight advantages?" And you bring up last year as some sort of counter?

Man, I guess sports journalism really doesn't attract the best and brightest.

Thanks for the unprovoked ad hominem putdown after I had only treated you with respect.

And my exact words were "I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slight advantage to having played in the WC round."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU82 on October 03, 2025, 04:11:58 PMThanks for the unprovoked ad hominem putdown after I had only treated you with respect.

And my exact words were "I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slight advantage to having played in the WC round."


It's just his way of saying he loves you.  :-*

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on October 03, 2025, 04:11:58 PMThanks for the unprovoked ad hominem putdown after I had only treated you with respect.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....


Quote from: MU82 on October 03, 2025, 04:11:58 PMAnd my exact words were "I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slight advantage to having played in the WC round."

::)  ::)  ::) After you said "not enough data yet." So which is it?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 03, 2025, 04:16:56 PMIt's just his way of saying he loves you.  :-*

If Sultan hasn't gone pedantic on you recently, do you even feel part of the board?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Shaka Shart

Splitting more and more hairs because we can't afford full hairs due to tariffs
#BanGBWarrior

GB Warrior

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 03, 2025, 02:49:40 PMHe was ahead 1-2 on both of the guys he hit and Kittredge had pitched the previous 2 games so it was a tough call.  Glad it worked out. 

Worked out lol

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on October 03, 2025, 04:33:16 PMIf Sultan hasn't gone pedantic on you recently, do you even feel part of the board?

He's not worth it. Let's talk about something that matters.

Mariners named George Kirby and Luis Castillo starters for 1 & 2. Surprised and not overly thrilled about Kirby. Logan Gilbert has been better much of the season; I assume he'll go in 3, unless Woo is ready, in which case Gilbert will go in 4.

Tigers will go with Melton in 1 and, as you expected, Skubal in 2.

Castillo actually beat Skubal twice this season, but neither pitcher was great in either game, and it means nothing in October anyway. Castillo has pitched superbly lately, and Skubal was absolutely dominant a few days ago.

Hoping for low-scoring games throughout the series, with a few of the M's power guys connecting on timely HRs.

I was kidding about a sweep earlier; wouldn't be surprised at all if it goes 5.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

#1546
Quote from: The Sultan on October 03, 2025, 03:38:01 PMThere have been 32 wild card games / series since it was introduced in 2012. 16 of the winners of those games / series have gone onto the LCS.  To further break it down, since the three game series was introduced in 2022, there have been 12 series. 6 of those winners have gone onto the LCS. This despite arguably being the WORSE team, and not having home field advantage.

So you don't think that's been enough data to "suggest there may be some slight advantages?" And you bring up last year as some sort of counter?

Man, I guess sports journalism really doesn't attract the best and brightest.

Cut the excrement Fluffy and stop attacking people.  It's fking baseball.  The data is completely meaningless as to the playoffs and specific match-ups.  You might as well throw darts at a board.  If you play out the "data" another 13, 26, or 39  years, we have no clue how that will pan out. 

cheebs09

Data not being part of the five point plan isn't very surprising.

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 03, 2025, 06:58:56 PMCut the excrement Fluffy and stop attacking people.  It's fking baseball.  The data is completely meaningless as to the playoffs and specific match-ups.  You might as well throw darts at a board.  If you play out the "data" another 13, 26, or 39  years, we have no clue how that will pan out. 

Yeah! Burn in hell Billy Beane! Spent all that money on gay DEI and had to use useless analytics!
#BanGBWarrior

MU Fan in Connecticut

This Phillies played an intra squad game this week to break up the time of.  They almost sold out their stadium for it too.

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