Amadou in the portal

[Vander Blue Man Group]

One is opinion and one is fact bozo

When is Sean entering the portal?

[panda2.0]

When is Sean entering the portal?

Stay tuned

[MU82]

I will literally eat my words - I will print out this post and eat it if Caedin Hamilton ever becomes a significant contributor at Marquette

Define "significant contributor."

[panda2.0]

Define "significant contributor."

Started playing 27 minutes or more. Averaging 12 points 8 boards.

[Pakuni]

Jesus. The nitpicking is insane but okay dude. 😂

Didn't realize how illogical of me it was to assume that Al Amadou, a player who barely got time playing with walk-ons, wouldn't have a greater contribution at the 5 than Hamilton, who's much bigger physically and a clear focus for development, or Clark, who's 7'1. Clearly it's a nonsensical assumption by me.

Yeah, I didn't write anything about Al.
I was pointing out your folly in claiming that MU has three guys capable of holding down the 5 spot. We have Gold and two projects who've played a combined 184 minutes. I hope they're awesome. Right now they're unknowns.

[K1 Lover]

Yeah, I didn't write anything about Al.
I was pointing out your folly in claiming that MU has three guys capable of holding down the 5 spot. We have Gold and two projects who've played a combined 184 minutes. I hope they're awesome. Right now they're unknowns.

The only folly here is you misconstruing my point entirely. Never did I say that we have three guys who can hold down the 5 spot; I said that we already have three guys who can play that spot.

My point wasn't that Al Amadou would see less playing time because of a difference in talent, but because of the objective fact that the more players there are sharing a position, the less minutes they're each going to get - especially when three of them are on the bench.

It's really not that difficult.

[We R Final Four]

This is pretty great news, all things considered. With the way our roster would look like next year, I worried that Amadou's role would be quite superfluous since we already have three guys that can play the 5 spot, and it seemed very unlikely that he'd be able to fill in as a stretch-4.

I figured Shaka & company knew that already, but I seriously doubted he would leave because of the emphasis relationships - so I'm pretty surprised.

Hopefully Shaka uses this as an opportunity to bring in a transfer since he did say previously that this exact circumstance is the only case in which he'd do so. While unfortunate that Amadou is leaving, this is 100% for the best.

So not really unfortunate hey?

[K1 Lover]

So not really unfortunate hey?

Unfortunate in the sense that I'll miss his dunks.

[wadesworld]

Started playing 27 minutes or more. Averaging 12 points 8 boards.

So Stevie wasn't a significant contributor?

[The Sultan]

This is an all time bad take. And that really means something coming from panda2.0

MU82 is a retired sportswriter. Not exactly known for their intelligence.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Started playing 27 minutes or more. Averaging 12 points 8 boards.

Man, Oso was never a significant contributor for Marquette.

Really need to rethink how productive he actually was for us.

[panda2.0]

MU82 is a retired sportswriter. Not exactly known for their intelligence.

lol

[Markusquette]

Assumed someone would be transferring and he was #1 I was expecting. Still think one more is a possibility.

[We R Final Four]

Assumed someone would be transferring and he was #1 I was expecting. Still think one more is a possibility.

Agreed.......however some think that player (if the same) could have been a breakout player this year and a starter next year......we will see.

[DoctorV]

One is opinion and one is fact bozo

This made me laugh out loud.

You've survived another day on scoop, keep up the strong work

[MU82]

Started playing 27 minutes or more. Averaging 12 points 8 boards.

Good to know that Diener, Merritt and Novak weren't significant contributors for Marquette in 2003. Or that Khaman Maluach isn't a significant contributor to Duke this season.

You sure you're not a retired sportswriter?

[panda2.0]

Good to know that Diener, Merritt and Novak weren't significant contributors for Marquette in 2003. Or that Khaman Maluach isn't a significant contributor to Duke this season.

You sure you're not a retired sportswriter?

Buddy you asked me to define what I believe would be a significant contributor, I did and you don't like my answer? Thats on you.

Caedin needs to perform to or around my projections midway through is jr year and through the entirety of his senior year to justify carrying him for that long with his very limited current skill set. That's the end point in the progression of a project big.

What's the point of keeping a project big if they're never going to develop to a key contributor on the team?

Another phenomenal example with an unheralded five star Maluach. 13 6 and 4 blocks last night in 23 minutes. Waste of a scholarship !

[Hards Alumni]

Buddy you asked me to define what I believe would be a significant contributor, I did and you don't like my answer? Thats on you.

Caedin needs to perform to or around my projections midway through is jr year and through the entirety of his senior year to justify carrying him for that long with his very limited current skill set. That's the end point in the progression of a project big.

What's the point of keeping a project big if they're never going to develop to a key contributor on the team?

Another phenomenal example with an unheralded five star Maluach. 13 6 and 4 blocks last night in 23 minutes. Waste of a scholarship !

The issue is you just decided some numbers and didn't realize that other players who clearly were major contributors can't meet those numbers.

[panda2.0]

The issue is you just decided some numbers and didn't realize that other players who clearly were major contributors can't meet those numbers.

I think you're confused. He asked ME to define what MY opinion of a significant contributor. Not yours.

Then MU82 and Vander blue man group, both part of my bonafide bozo's group on this page, listed players who are nothing like what Caedin profiles as. Of course oso, Novak and diener wont average the numbers I said for caedin. That's a false equivalency.

[Hards Alumni]

I think you're confused. He asked ME to define what MY opinion of a significant contributor. Not yours.

Then MU82 and Vander blue man group, both part of my bonafide bozo's group on this page, listed players who are nothing like what Caedin profiles as. Of course oso, Novak and diener wont average the numbers I said for caedin. That's a false equivalency.

No, I assure you, I am not confused.  You chose arbitrary numbers without actually thinking and are now back pedaling because you also realize this.

If you'd like to admit that YOUR opinion of what a significant contributor is pretty bad in hindsight, you sure can.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4894465/owen-freeman

Here is a guy that a lot of folks around here wanted to pencil in as a starter if he transferred to Marquette.

26.4 minutes 16.7 points 6.7 rebounds per game.

I think most people would agree that Owen Freeman plays a position comparable to Caedin Hamilton.  And I think that most people would agree that Owen Freeman was a 'significant contributor' at Iowa.  But by your criteria, he'd be short on time and rebounds.

Surely, you can see the problem, and why you're getting dunked on.

[panda2.0]

No, I assure you, I am not confused.  You chose arbitrary numbers without actually thinking and are now back pedaling because you also realize this.

If you'd like to admit that YOUR opinion of what a significant contributor is pretty bad in hindsight, you sure can.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4894465/owen-freeman

Here is a guy that a lot of folks around here wanted to pencil in as a starter if he transferred to Marquette.

26.4 minutes 16.7 points 6.7 rebounds per game.

I think most people would agree that Owen Freeman plays a position comparable to Caedin Hamilton.  And I think that most people would agree that Owen Freeman was a 'significant contributor' at Iowa.  But by your criteria, he'd be short on time and rebounds.

Surely, you can see the problem, and why you're getting dunked on.

Please tell me what was wrong with my opinion ? I still don't see an issue with the answer I gave which ultimately is an opinion which you are correct, is fairly arbitrary. I didn't base it on anything except what in my head st that particular second I believe a bruiser big to average his late junior and senior year.

Also how am I back tracking? And why are you worried about this ?

[The Sultan]

Please tell me what was wrong with my opinion ? I still don't see an issue with the answer I gave which ultimately is an opinion which you are correct, is fairly arbitrary. I didn't base it on anything except what in my head st that particular second I believe a bruiser big to average his late junior and senior year.

Also how am I back tracking? And why are you worried about this ?

Because if your opinion is that those numbers have to be attained to be a major contributor, and actual major contributors playing the same position don't meet those numbers, then your opinion sucks.

[tower912]

But you are still entitled to it.  Just as everyone else is free to challenge it.

[panda2.0]

Because if your opinion is that those numbers have to be attained to be a major contributor, and actual major contributors playing the same position don't meet those numbers, then your opinion sucks.

12 and 8 is very attainable for a player of his profile and stature. You're all nitpicking because you have nothing better to do.

[The Sultan]

12 and 8 is very attainable for a player of his profile and stature. You're all nitpicking because you have nothing better to do.

Uh. No. We are showing you the folly of your ways and you are digging in on a bad opinion because you either can't admit your opinion was bad, or because you don't really understand college basketball. So which is it?