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Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2025, 02:41:54 PMAre we pretending Amadou's departure is unrelated to what the coaching staff sees as his future upside?

I am.
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Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2025, 02:41:54 PMAre we pretending Amadou's departure is unrelated to what the coaching staff sees as his future upside?

Yeah, I think it is fairly clear what happened here. He was redshirted because it was decided to try him as a wing. He had a season to work on it, and it may not have go well, so Shaka told him what his status would be.
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Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2025, 01:47:39 PMWhen St. John's signed Ejiofor, he was a "project big." He had averaged 5 mpg, playing almost exclusively in garbage time, as a Kansas freshman.

As a sophomore at St. John's, he averaged 11 mpg, still largely in garbage time or when all the other bigs were in foul trouble.

Lots of Scoopers would have complained about the coach having wasted a scholarship on Ejiofor when he was signed, and then would have said the coach should have encouraged him to transfer after his "useless" sophomore year.

Being a top 50 guy and a year at Kansas like Zuby is not a project big.

Project bigs are what shaka has taken. 3 star dudes with only a few or none hi major offers. Clark averaged less than 10 points and 5 boards in high school and had zero hi major interest. That's a project.

GB Warrior

Quote from: We R Final Four on March 27, 2025, 12:50:48 PMDo all RS's transfer?

No, but redshirting as a sophomore isn't exactly the normal progression

MU82

Quote from: MUbiz on March 27, 2025, 03:37:17 PMBeing a top 50 guy and a year at Kansas like Zuby is not a project big.

Project bigs are what shaka has taken. 3 star dudes with only a few or none hi major offers. Clark averaged less than 10 points and 5 boards in high school and had zero hi major interest. That's a project.

Zuby wasn't a top-50 guy while he was riding the pine for two different programs with Hall of Fame coaches. His HS ranking didn't help him get PT.

A not-small segment of Scoop would have been saying Shaka should sit him down after year 2 and suggest he transfer down a level.

As for Amadou ... I think it's good that he is seeking a change of scenery, and I wish him well.
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rocky_warrior

Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2025, 04:52:55 PMA not-small segment of Scoop would have been saying Shaka should sit him down after year 2 and suggest he transfer down a level.

Hamilton is the only guy on the team close to that comparison, and only a couple people have mentioned that.  Is 2-3 a "not-small segment"?

NCMUFan

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on March 27, 2025, 12:49:33 PMclears out room for another project big who can redshirt next year.
Are they forced to wear red shirts?

oldwarrior81

I think Kentucky retired Sam Bowie's redshirt

K1 Lover

This is pretty great news, all things considered. With the way our roster would look like next year, I worried that Amadou's role would be quite superfluous since we already have three guys that can play the 5 spot, and it seemed very unlikely that he'd be able to fill in as a stretch-4.

I figured Shaka & company knew that already, but I seriously doubted he would leave because of the emphasis relationships - so I'm pretty surprised.

Hopefully Shaka uses this as an opportunity to bring in a transfer since he did say previously that this exact circumstance is the only case in which he'd do so. While unfortunate that Amadou is leaving, this is 100% for the best.

panda2.0

Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2025, 01:47:39 PMWhen St. John's signed Ejiofor, he was a "project big." He had averaged 5 mpg, playing almost exclusively in garbage time, as a Kansas freshman.

As a sophomore at St. John's, he averaged 11 mpg, still largely in garbage time or when all the other bigs were in foul trouble.

Lots of Scoopers would have complained about the coach having wasted a scholarship on Ejiofor when he was signed, and then would have said the coach should have encouraged him to transfer after his "useless" sophomore year.

This is an all time bad take. And that really means something coming from panda2.0

Elonsmusk

A little surprised to see this news, but either Al, or the staff, or both concluded that he'd see more playing time elsewhere.  I thought Al had some nice upside, but it didn't look like he was able to put on much weight during his time at MU and that likely would challenge his success in the Big East.

All accounts Al was a great kid, and wish him well at his next school.

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Good luck to the young man. 

Viper

Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 27, 2025, 06:30:15 PMA little surprised to see this news, but either Al, or the staff, or both concluded that he'd see more playing time elsewhere.  I thought Al had some nice upside, but it didn't look like he was able to put on much weight during his time at MU and that likely would challenge his success in the Big East.

All accounts Al was a great kid, and wish him well at his next school.
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Quote from: panda2.0 on March 27, 2025, 06:20:00 PMThis is an all time bad take. And that really means something coming from panda2.0

You mean in the vein of "takes one to know one" or "pot, meet kettle"? Yup.

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Quote from: K1 Lover on March 27, 2025, 06:04:32 PM... since we already have three guys that can play the 5 spot

This assumes facts not in evidence.
I mean, they can play it in a "be on the court in the position" kind of way, but we definitely don't know if two of them can play it.

bilsu

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 27, 2025, 01:00:21 PMSacar is a "redshirt 2nd year" success story, but I'd have think the percentage of players who go on to have success at a school where they play their first year and then redshirt the second year due to not being ready has to be pretty small. Shaka is 0/3 now with this (Ellis, Keeyan, and Al). Unless there are exceptional circumstances, if a player is not ready to play by the time their second year begins, it is best just to part ways at that point. Anyway, good luck to Al. I'm sure I'll randomly catch one of his games next year by accident.
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MU82

Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 27, 2025, 05:35:03 PMHamilton is the only guy on the team close to that comparison, and only a couple people have mentioned that.  Is 2-3 a "not-small segment"?

Maybe. I guess they were just really loud. Like this gentleman ...

Quote from: panda2.0 on March 27, 2025, 06:20:00 PMThis is an all time bad take. And that really means something coming from panda2.0
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panda2.0

Quote from: MU82 on March 27, 2025, 07:38:48 PMMaybe. I guess they were just really loud. Like this gentleman ...


I will literally eat my words - I will print out this post and eat it if Caedin Hamilton ever becomes a significant contributor at Marquette

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: panda2.0 on March 27, 2025, 07:43:30 PMI will literally eat my words - I will print out this post and eat it if Caedin Hamilton ever becomes a significant contributor at Marquette

You also said Sean was transferring.
VIOLENCE!

panda2.0

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 27, 2025, 07:51:21 PMYou also said Sean was transferring.

One is opinion and one is fact bozo

K1 Lover

Quote from: Pakuni on March 27, 2025, 07:26:20 PMThis assumes facts not in evidence.
I mean, they can play it in a "be on the court in the position" kind of way, but we definitely don't know if two of them can play it.

Jesus. The nitpicking is insane but okay dude. 😂

Didn't realize how illogical of me it was to assume that Al Amadou, a player who barely got time playing with walk-ons, wouldn't have a greater contribution at the 5 than Hamilton, who's much bigger physically and a clear focus for development, or Clark, who's 7'1. Clearly it's a nonsensical assumption by me.

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