Record crowd Saturday?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I know what I think!

[maxpower773]

where is the "who cares prn is just trying to kill a dead horse" choice?

[MUfan12]

PRN- Normally, I'm with ya 100% about the nickname, and from time to time agree about some of Crean's weaknesses as a coach. But this one shows a glaring lack of perspective.

Who cares if they announce a record crowd? Yes, it seems repetitive to set this mark each year. But, perception is huge. Who, outside of the small minority who follow the program as closely as those who read/post on these boards, knows about how often we set a record?

But, I can guarantee this is a selling point to recruits. It is also a tremendous thing to see on a national broadcast. And it is a testament to the growth and support of the program that we can sell out an NBA arena almost as often as the NBA team.

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

[Pakuni]

[ZiggysFryBoy]

[jmayer1]

I tend to agree with PRN on this that I am not sure how we could have "broken" the record so many times over the past couple season.  But, with that being said, I have no problems with it from a marketing perspective.  Either way, this game should be packed and LOUD!!!

[The Lens]

I have no problem with them continually setting a new record...but its the caveat they put on it, saying it's a state of Wisconsin record.  It's just an intentional swipe at Bucky that makes me feel small inside.  Shouldn't we be above trying to one up the University of Wisconsin?  We're a NATIONAL University.

[NavinRJohnson]

Right, Lord knows we wouldn't want a national TV audience hearing that we set the attendance record in the state. You and I know that if UW-Madison had a larger arena, they would set that record, but most people out there don't think it through that much. Does anybody really care? Maybe not. Is it a big deal? Apparently only to people who are against it because they don't like Coach Crean,  but the fact is we are in direct competition with them, and we should do what ever we can to gain an advantage when an opportunity presents itself.

[The Man in Gold]

Lets just play one game at Miller Park and then this controversey will be over forever...

(Until UW decides to play at Camp Randall)

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

[AlumKCof93]

I agree with PRN.  I think our attendance is great but am tired of how often over the years we've announced that we've now achieved the largest attendance for a bball game in WI history.  Its become a bit ridiculous.

[Chili]

Where did my vote go? I feel disenfranchised.

[mu03eng]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

I'm pretty sure we can't fabricate our attendance numbers ie make them up, there has to be some legitimacy to them even if its creative counting.  Also stadiums have new records set all the time.  I know that the Big House and Beaver Stadium(PSU) are constantly setting records over each other in attendance for football games even though I know for a fact Beaver Stadium hasn't added seats in the last 4 years.

What proof do you have that the numbers are made up?  I'm guessing your hatred of Crean is getting the better of you again.

Lastly, unless it is an out and out lie(which there is zero evidence of) who cares?  It is nothing but a positive to be able to announce we are setting a record on national TV.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

Lastly, unless it is an out and out lie(which there is zero evidence of) who cares?  It is nothing but a positive to be able to announce we are setting a record on national TV.

That's the point. I believe it is an out and out lie. That's why I care.

[HelixAir6]

i've heard that attendance numbers also include certain staff for the teams as well, that you wouldn't see in the seats.  I think this could include managers, towel boys, cheerleaders, extra security, and even people behind the scenes (thats why you see certain stadiums where the attendance is way over the seating capacity).  Obviously this number itself can vary quite a bit, but again, you would think that we are getting close to the ceiling.  I don't really care either way, as long as it is louder than ever in the BC this weekend, I'll be happy.

[Chili]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

Lastly, unless it is an out and out lie(which there is zero evidence of) who cares?  It is nothing but a positive to be able to announce we are setting a record on national TV.

That's the point. I believe it is an out and out lie. That's why I care.

What affect does this have on your wellbeing that you care so much?

[Coobeys Oil Depot]

PRN, you do realize that all teams in all sporting events report the number of tickets sold, right? That's why you have attendance numbers like 7,453 on a major snowstorm night when only 1,569 show up. This isn't something that only Marquette does.

Continually announcing the record attendance is tiresome. However, all it means is that the suite holders were able to squeeze in more people then the last time.

[Avenue Commons]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

Exactly. It's next to amazing that we draw the crowds that we do. Marquette's total enrollment is only around 10,000, a fraction of what it is at a large state school. And yet we sell out an NBA facility on a regular basis and have a student section that is one of the best in the country. Jay Bilas said last year that Marquette was one of the best places ever for Gameday. If we can't be proud of the large crowds (exaggerated attendance or not) then I don't know what we can be proud of as a program.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

Lastly, unless it is an out and out lie(which there is zero evidence of) who cares?  It is nothing but a positive to be able to announce we are setting a record on national TV.

PS It's all Crean's fault.

That's the point. I believe it is an out and out lie. That's why I care.

What affect does this have on your wellbeing that you care so much?

Because Tom Crean is promoting a lie and MUST be stopped!

It's just like MU's "vagueness" with injuries... just more and more Tom Crean lies that are directly impacting the reputation of MU and causing me great angst.

I think everybody should where blue to the game just to show Crean that we aren't mindless drones who follow his every command.

[BuzzSucksSucks]

If we sell out, and fill it up to the rafters, why would it not be something to announce?  It is something.  It takes into account the Bucks, the Badgers, history, the Al McGuire era, all of that.  Why not mark occasions when they happen?  I say if it's a record, go ahead and announce it.  With political correctness the way it is nowadays, you can't do much without offending anyone, and in this case, they'd only be offending one guy probably.

[mu03eng]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

Lastly, unless it is an out and out lie(which there is zero evidence of) who cares?  It is nothing but a positive to be able to announce we are setting a record on national TV.

That's the point. I believe it is an out and out lie. That's why I care.

Where is your proof?  Once again I think you have your I hate Crean blinders on.  You assume that because we keep announcing record attendance, it must be a lie because we couldn't possibly be getting more people in every year and Crean must be orchestrating it.

Penn State has announced record attendance 5 times in the last two years.....is Joe Paterno creating a lie there?  This stuff happens everywhere that is successful, it ain't a lie, its simply statistic manipulation.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Marquette has no business being in the top 15 nationally in attendance. It is impressive for a private school of our size to draw the way MU does. I would think this would be a point of pride, rather than something to mock.

I'm not knocking our attendance...far from it. We've had stellar attendance for years. I am knocking the fact that we continually fabricate our attendance numbers, particularly when we're on national TV. And I'm knocking the fact that some of the people on this board lap it up like mother's milk!

MODERATORS: Unless there is something offensive in my posts, I'd appreciate if you refrained from providing personal comments within them. 

Lastly, unless it is an out and out lie(which there is zero evidence of) who cares?  It is nothing but a positive to be able to announce we are setting a record on national TV.

That's the point. I believe it is an out and out lie. That's why I care.

Where is your proof?  Once again I think you have your I hate Crean blinders on.  You assume that because we keep announcing record attendance, it must be a lie because we couldn't possibly be getting more people in every year and Crean must be orchestrating it.

Penn State has announced record attendance 5 times in the last two years.....is Joe Paterno creating a lie there?  This stuff happens everywhere that is successful, it ain't a lie, its simply statistic manipulation.

No, Paterno isn't lying... Crean is actually involved in some of the marketing that goes on in Happy Valley.

Again, Crean is responsible.

[MarquetteDano]

I have no problem with them continually setting a new record...but its the caveat they put on it, saying it's a state of Wisconsin record.  It's just an intentional swipe at Bucky that makes me feel small inside.  Shouldn't we be above trying to one up the University of Wisconsin?  We're a NATIONAL University.

This is the REAL issue.  Excellent post.  Who cares if we keep announcing that we have a record crowd?  The real issue is the ridiculous "in the state of Wisconsin" phase.  I find it embarrasing.  I think the first time we did it, the point was taken.  Do we really need to hammer this home each time?

If the continually break the record and want to announce it, so be it.  But get rid of the "in the state of Wisconsin" ridiculousness.

[Coobeys Oil Depot]

I have no problem with them continually setting a new record...but its the caveat they put on it, saying it's a state of Wisconsin record.  It's just an intentional swipe at Bucky that makes me feel small inside.  Shouldn't we be above trying to one up the University of Wisconsin?  We're a NATIONAL University.

This is the REAL issue.  Excellent post.  Who cares if we keep announcing that we have a record crowd?  The real issue is the ridiculous "in the state of Wisconsin" phase.  I find it embarrasing.  I think the first time we did it, the point was taken.  Do we really need to hammer this home each time?

If the continually break the record and want to announce it, so be it.  But get rid of the "in the state of Wisconsin" ridiculousness.

I don't really understand the uproar over the "state of Wisconsin" stuff. That's where the record is located. You don't see references to Steve Novak being the leading 3-point FG shooter in college basketball without it being qualified by "in the Big East". To announce a record, you must reference its relevance. The record has no relevance outside the state even though some people seemingly want it to so they can feel like they're a part of a "National University" which to me seems more ridiculous then the continual announcment of the record.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

It's a school record!! Isn't that enough?